Avast, if ye be in the Atlanta area next time this day rolls around next year, ye can come to the time honored tradition of Piratepalooza (or start one in yer area).
Then I don't know what can Call me a blind cynic, but for me, verifiable proof that someone hacked a voting machine while actually voting would do it. Till then, I'm not convinced this is more harmful than kids having fun with electronics kits at home.
I agree, trhe summary could have been worded better. Incidentally, the article (or as some would say "The Fucking Article") later explains this to be 5 MB.
That line of thinking does seem reasonable, but since its practice has weeded out all commanders who saw your logic (using weapons that were previously untested and uncertainly non-lethal), we're left with what we have today.
This is ridiculous. The US Air Force secretary is saying that it's ethically OK to use US citizens over non-US citizens for testing weapons. This is clearly false as everyone knows that non-US citizens are much more deserving of being used as test subjects.
Democracy is a tool used to acquire individual freedom. Democracy is majority rule- the will of the mob. How does that protect the individual? Or was that ironic humor?
If the majority of the Chinese are content with their government or its actions In other words, what's popular is always right, and what's right is always popular.
Oh ok, thanks. I guess the combination of a- summary not explicitly stating it wasn't finished (only that it is "fully portable" & "developers need help packaging it" (like everyone is supposed to know what that means)) & b- this page stating that "Snakebite [...] works on [...] Windows" and "Here is where you download the.exe for Windows." without a link left me somewhat naively hopeful and confused. (The ACTLab TV bastards getting my hopes up...)
How do they know if a mouse was depression-resistant? Did they kill the mouse's whole family and then tell it "You have a mortgage to pay off for the rest of your short life, and all of your mousey property can not be passed on thru your mousey will (which incidentally is made of delicious cheese)," then sit back and watch the mouse just shrug and go on whistling and smiling?
Etc? No, really, please go on to the second one. I wanna hear how you'd correct the morning after pill analogy. Would it involve trying to impregnate a blow-up doll?
(previous comment) I'm confused are you saying this is your previous comment, or this one is? Sorry, all you ACs look the same to me.
Also, it wouldn't surprise me if some automated systems do war-dialing to hit every phone in an exchange. Nice conjecture.
Look, if you live in a place where people get political polling calls even though they never supplying their number to the caller (directly or indirectly) that sucks and you should do something about it. Find out who is your state and/or federal congressman, find out where they live, and fling poo at their house. Or petition them to change things, if you wanna be more effective than vengeful about it.
In the meantime, this thread is about thdexter getting pooped on for calling people who indirectly gave him their number - giving their number in a context related to his call.
Permission given to one group to call me does not transfer to another group. I agree if you replace "another" with "unrelated". If I'm signing up Nicklodeon Magazine, I don't wanna receive ads for Playboy, and vice versa. Receiving ads for Hustler after I subscribe to Playboy, I wouldn't call that unreasonable or surprising or wrong.
In the case of thdexter, people are registering to vote. That means they care enough to have some political opinion that they want to express via voting. These people are also willfully opting to supply their phone number. Personally, I don't think it's that much of a stretch to then assume these people know what they're doing when they put pen to paper and write down the number. And if they don't know what they're doing, I say bully!, all the more reason to pester the idiots so as to maybe teach them to find out what their info will be used for before putting it down.
We don't need annoying phone calls to discourage participation in democracy. Personally, annoying phone calls don't inspire apathy in me. They inspire annoyance. When I get annoyed about things, I do something about it. I get out there in this republic of ours and get politically active. Maybe when things annoy you, you just throw up your hands and say "Oh well, nothing I can do about it. Might as well go on being annoyed." And if so, that's cool. You can go ahead and be you, anonymous you that you are. I got no problem with that.
thdexter then goes into an online forum and publicly opines: "Have you no decency, sir?" W. T. F. ?. I can see your point in ilustrating why thdexter should not expect his victims to show some general courtesy. However, I see the script rewinding a few days back when Alfred registered to vote.
Alfred goes to his local voter registration center and encounters Polly. She greets him with a smile as he says "I'd like to register to vote."
Polly hands him the voter registration form.
Alfred fills out all required fields, as well as some optional fields, like home phone number, and hands the completed form to Polly.
Polly says "Thanks," and walks away to process his form.
Alfred goes home.
Now, whether Alfred filled out the field on form labelled "Home phone number" out of hope that the pretty young lady would write it down in her address book and call him later that night, or because he thought it might be used in case the federal voting board needed to call him during a voting emergency, or (most likely) without thinking about it, his reason for putting his phone number down could probably be summed up by saying "He didn't know what he was doing." or "He gave out his information without knowing the consequence."
Alfred may have a pattern of doing foolish things like this; he may not. But he definitely has done something here today that will yield negative results for him in the future. This will be a learning experience for him. He may or may not learn from it. Let's hope he does, and next time, before opining about what a jerk a phone pollster is (for using a phone number Alfred indirectly gave him), considers handling his contact information more responsibly. Maybe next time Alfred will not stupidly give out his number when he doesn't have to, or use a fake number, if not being bothered by pollsters is that important to him.
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Avast, if ye be in the Atlanta area next time this day rolls around next year, ye can come to the time honored tradition of Piratepalooza (or start one in yer area).
Bush bashes security authors and media, and Ted Turner lambastes politicians and security authors.
Then I don't know what can
Call me a blind cynic, but for me, verifiable proof that someone hacked a voting machine while actually voting would do it.
Till then, I'm not convinced this is more harmful than kids having fun with electronics kits at home.
depends on what the prof teaches.
If it's Economics, I say "Good, no surprise there."
Else: "Wow, a non-economics teacher who understands economics."
It's all explained in my forthcoming intergalactic self-help book "IOK, You OK".
I agree, trhe summary could have been worded better. Incidentally, the article (or as some would say "The Fucking Article") later explains this to be 5 MB.
Compare and contrast to previous non-lethal weapons and how they were tested: tazer, bean bag gun, etc.
That line of thinking does seem reasonable, but since its practice has weeded out all commanders who saw your logic (using weapons that were previously untested and uncertainly non-lethal), we're left with what we have today.
This is ridiculous. The US Air Force secretary is saying that it's ethically OK to use US citizens over non-US citizens for testing weapons. This is clearly false as everyone knows that non-US citizens are much more deserving of being used as test subjects.
Democracy is a tool used to acquire individual freedom.
Democracy is majority rule- the will of the mob. How does that protect the individual?
Or was that ironic humor?
If the majority of the Chinese are content with their government or its actions
In other words, what's popular is always right, and what's right is always popular.
I'll just leave my speakers off. Ha! Take that Microsoft- your move!
1- Missing url for SpiralFrog
2- Music files WILL be playable on a portable player.
Oh ok, thanks. I guess the combination of .exe for Windows." without a link
a- summary not explicitly stating it wasn't finished (only that it is "fully portable" & "developers need help packaging it" (like everyone is supposed to know what that means)) &
b- this page stating that "Snakebite [...] works on [...] Windows" and "Here is where you download the
left me somewhat naively hopeful and confused. (The ACTLab TV bastards getting my hopes up...)
Thanks again.
Where is the windows version download? Seems to be disconnected at the site.
How do they know if a mouse was depression-resistant? Did they kill the mouse's whole family and then tell it "You have a mortgage to pay off for the rest of your short life, and all of your mousey property can not be passed on thru your mousey will (which incidentally is made of delicious cheese)," then sit back and watch the mouse just shrug and go on whistling and smiling?
Ani DiFranco sang it, so it must be true.
Etc? No, really, please go on to the second one. I wanna hear how you'd correct the morning after pill analogy. Would it involve trying to impregnate a blow-up doll?
"Nothing to see, move along": I predict that is what I'll see when I come back to this slashdot article on the 21st.
I for 1 can't stand that friggin 2nd vowl ky. Can us ban that too?
A poll on his site:
a- Mohock jallom dirka dirka
or
b- Jihad mullah dirka allah dirka dirka jihad.
Hmm. I think I'll choose the dirka one.
When on earth to we get a new poll
We ton't get one until we can spell "do."
So the news about Google today is that "Things are the way they were yesterday and there is no news."
Thanks.
(previous comment)
I'm confused are you saying this is your previous comment, or this one is?
Sorry, all you ACs look the same to me.
Also, it wouldn't surprise me if some automated systems do war-dialing to hit every phone in an exchange.
Nice conjecture.
Look, if you live in a place where people get political polling calls even though they never supplying their number to the caller (directly or indirectly) that sucks and you should do something about it. Find out who is your state and/or federal congressman, find out where they live, and fling poo at their house. Or petition them to change things, if you wanna be more effective than vengeful about it.
In the meantime, this thread is about thdexter getting pooped on for calling people who indirectly gave him their number - giving their number in a context related to his call.
Permission given to one group to call me does not transfer to another group.
I agree if you replace "another" with "unrelated". If I'm signing up Nicklodeon Magazine, I don't wanna receive ads for Playboy, and vice versa. Receiving ads for Hustler after I subscribe to Playboy, I wouldn't call that unreasonable or surprising or wrong.
In the case of thdexter, people are registering to vote. That means they care enough to have some political opinion that they want to express via voting. These people are also willfully opting to supply their phone number. Personally, I don't think it's that much of a stretch to then assume these people know what they're doing when they put pen to paper and write down the number. And if they don't know what they're doing, I say bully!, all the more reason to pester the idiots so as to maybe teach them to find out what their info will be used for before putting it down.
We don't need annoying phone calls to discourage participation in democracy.
Personally, annoying phone calls don't inspire apathy in me. They inspire annoyance. When I get annoyed about things, I do something about it. I get out there in this republic of ours and get politically active. Maybe when things annoy you, you just throw up your hands and say "Oh well, nothing I can do about it. Might as well go on being annoyed." And if so, that's cool. You can go ahead and be you, anonymous you that you are. I got no problem with that.
thdexter then goes into an online forum and publicly opines: "Have you no decency, sir?" W. T. F. ?.
I can see your point in ilustrating why thdexter should not expect his victims to show some general courtesy.
However, I see the script rewinding a few days back when Alfred registered to vote.
Alfred goes to his local voter registration center and encounters Polly. She greets him with a smile as he says "I'd like to register to vote."
Polly hands him the voter registration form.
Alfred fills out all required fields, as well as some optional fields, like home phone number, and hands the completed form to Polly.
Polly says "Thanks," and walks away to process his form.
Alfred goes home.
Now, whether Alfred filled out the field on form labelled "Home phone number" out of hope that the pretty young lady would write it down in her address book and call him later that night, or because he thought it might be used in case the federal voting board needed to call him during a voting emergency, or (most likely) without thinking about it, his reason for putting his phone number down could probably be summed up by saying "He didn't know what he was doing." or "He gave out his information without knowing the consequence."
Alfred may have a pattern of doing foolish things like this; he may not. But he definitely has done something here today that will yield negative results for him in the future. This will be a learning experience for him. He may or may not learn from it. Let's hope he does, and next time, before opining about what a jerk a phone pollster is (for using a phone number Alfred indirectly gave him), considers handling his contact information more responsibly. Maybe next time Alfred will not stupidly give out his number when he doesn't have to, or use a fake number, if not being bothered by pollsters is that important to him.