Yes of course it is unethical, regardless that no living thing was hurt in this experiment.
What is ethical is determined not by values and reality ("Am I actually hurting something that feels pain?") but rather by stress levels ("Gosh this is stressing me out so it must be unethical.").
Anything that causes stress is unethical. Let's start monitoring all subjects in all studies to make sure we're not causing anyone or anything stress. I'm sure that will do wonders for scientific progress.
Really? Wow, that's such a helpful link on learning more about the Google aspect of this deal: a blank search engine interface! Thanks, NASA, you bloody typical government agency.
Yeah you might wanna re-read that first half again:
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,"
In other words:
Seeing as how a well regulated militia (which can be used to oppress the citizens any time a dictator feels like it) is necessary to the security of a free State,...
Thus the answer ("There's really no answer") was in error also. There is some number, probably between 1 and 1 million, that will fit the query. Finding the answer may be tricky, but to say it doesn't exist is just wrong.
If this were not a true story, then I'd say this could fit under the category of "It's funny. Laugh." However since it is a true story, this is not funny. This is very sad and scary.
Why is he a hero? Because he "averted a potential nuclear war by refusing to believe that the United States had launched missiles against the USSR, despite the indications given by his computerized early warning systems." Given this, how many among us are heroic enough to not believe what information the computer is feeding us?
a great disturbance in the force, as if millions of geeks cried out "No! Of course not! I want free music!!!" and then were silenced... cuz it's hard to type and shout at the same time.
Why does the article not mention when the supernova was observed (date or time) nor where in the night sky it was observed? I would think that'd be something the author would expect people would want to know, no?
Avast, if ye be in the Atlanta area next time this day rolls around next year, ye can come to the time honored tradition of Piratepalooza (or start one in yer area).
In case I wasn't clear with my phrase a "news" source, allow me to rephrase: this supposed news source or a "news" source like slashdot.
Not saying/. isn't entertaining and even sometimes informative about tech stories, but as far as political news...from June... about a story that's been debunked...
You think Bush won the White House on his sound policies, razor sharp intellect and good looks? You are so right. Good looks should absolutely factor into who becomes president. Impeach Bush- he's fugly!
Who is going to present your verifiable proof? The media? Get real. Given that I'm posting on/. and not in a letter to the editor or a broadcast directed at newscasters, I'd think it'd be obvious I'm speaking to/.ers. But if it's not obvious to some, that's ok, I don't mind spelliong it out:
My previous message was directed at/.ers. Dear/.s, I'm speaking to you. Not the media. If there are media people among you, that's ok, but I'm specifically speaking to you, readers of/.
"Give me verifiable proof or I'll deliberately refuse to trust my own senses" I see it differently. I see it as: Give me verifiable proof or I'll deliberately refuse to trust a "news" source and the mob-mentality of the crowd that follows it.
form your own opinions yourself without a mob around you to help boost your courage. Funy, I thought that was what I was doing, being in opposition to the general consensus of/. that electronic voting machines are bad.
Stories like this don't get my blood pressure up like they seem to for most other/.ers. I'm not really concerned about this. It's a cute and entertaining trick, but that's all it amounts to in my mind.
Until you can show me and the rest of the world verifiable proof that someone hacked a voting machine while actually voting, this is no more cause for concern than kids having fun with electronics kits at home.
There's another election coming up soon, and youtube is as popular as ever, so here's your chance. Get a hidden camera-- beter yet get a few-- one for your shoulder to see the screen, one for your belt to see the card. Film yourself demonstrating one of these many exploits. Be sure to not have any footage cut or you might as well entitle it "My hoax." Sure you risk jail, but isn't that worth it to show the country that you were right and that the evil are doing evil? If you actually have strong beliefs about this, I say have at it.
Slashdot Mirror
This is an neat idea. It'll be interesting to see if it ever gets off the ground.
Howabout the crime of boring /. the audience to death?
Yes of course it is unethical, regardless that no living thing was hurt in this experiment.
What is ethical is determined not by values and reality ("Am I actually hurting something that feels pain?") but rather by stress levels ("Gosh this is stressing me out so it must be unethical.").
Anything that causes stress is unethical. Let's start monitoring all subjects in all studies to make sure we're not causing anyone or anything stress. I'm sure that will do wonders for scientific progress.
(/sarcasm)
Damn right and that statue had better be 24k. We won't have any 14k crap gold statues in this family.
Sorry, troll, that's all the food you're getting from me.
The race to build blah blah blah has been won ... The advance could lead to blah blah blah.
That's great and all, but let us know when you actually accomplish something.
Really? Wow, that's such a helpful link on learning more about the Google aspect of this deal: a blank search engine interface!
Thanks, NASA, you bloody typical government agency.
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Yeah you might wanna re-read that first half again:
...
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,"
In other words:
Seeing as how a well regulated militia (which can be used to oppress the citizens any time a dictator feels like it) is necessary to the security of a free State,
Thus the answer ("There's really no answer") was in error also. There is some number, probably between 1 and 1 million, that will fit the query. Finding the answer may be tricky, but to say it doesn't exist is just wrong.
If this were not a true story, then I'd say this could fit under the category of "It's funny. Laugh."
However since it is a true story, this is not funny. This is very sad and scary.
Once upon a time...
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http://www.veratech.aero/mpg/Phantom%20First%20Fl
http://www.veratech.aero/mpg/Phantom%20Model%20Fl
http://www.veratech.aero/mpg/Phantom%207-19-2006.
In other words, it serves San Francisco right for being so smug?
So we're finally penetrating into the space tourism market, and we're doing it with a company called Virgin.
This is no where near the worst case scenario
Star Trek did it!
Why is he a hero? Because he "averted a potential nuclear war by refusing to believe that the United States had launched missiles against the USSR, despite the indications given by his computerized early warning systems." Given this, how many among us are heroic enough to not believe what information the computer is feeding us?
a great disturbance in the force, as if millions of geeks cried out "No! Of course not! I want free music!!!" and then were silenced... cuz it's hard to type and shout at the same time.
Why does the article not mention when the supernova was observed (date or time) nor where in the night sky it was observed? I would think that'd be something the author would expect people would want to know, no?
The whole dang state is suing? Santa Vaca!, I didn't even know that thing could talk!
If you thought that rock monster from Galaxy Quest was scary, imagine a huge landmass the size of California threatening legal action.
Che Guevera t-shirts! Get yer Che Guevara t-shirts right here. Who wants one! Get 'em while they're hot
Avast, if ye be in the Atlanta area next time this day rolls around next year, ye can come to the time honored tradition of Piratepalooza (or start one in yer area).
In case I wasn't clear with my phrase a "news" source, allow me to rephrase:
/. isn't entertaining and even sometimes informative about tech stories, but as far as political news...from June... about a story that's been debunked...
this supposed news source
or
a "news" source like slashdot.
Not saying
You think Bush won the White House on his sound policies, razor sharp intellect and good looks?
/. and not in a letter to the editor or a broadcast directed at newscasters, I'd think it'd be obvious I'm speaking to /.ers. But if it's not obvious to some, that's ok, I don't mind spelliong it out:
/.ers. Dear /.s, I'm speaking to you. Not the media. If there are media people among you, that's ok, but I'm specifically speaking to you, readers of /.
/. that electronic voting machines are bad.
You are so right. Good looks should absolutely factor into who becomes president. Impeach Bush- he's fugly!
Who is going to present your verifiable proof? The media? Get real.
Given that I'm posting on
My previous message was directed at
"Give me verifiable proof or I'll deliberately refuse to trust my own senses"
I see it differently. I see it as: Give me verifiable proof or I'll deliberately refuse to trust a "news" source and the mob-mentality of the crowd that follows it.
form your own opinions yourself without a mob around you to help boost your courage.
Funy, I thought that was what I was doing, being in opposition to the general consensus of
Stories like this don't get my blood pressure up like they seem to for most other /.ers. I'm not really concerned about this. It's a cute and entertaining trick, but that's all it amounts to in my mind.
Until you can show me and the rest of the world verifiable proof that someone hacked a voting machine while actually voting, this is no more cause for concern than kids having fun with electronics kits at home.
There's another election coming up soon, and youtube is as popular as ever, so here's your chance. Get a hidden camera-- beter yet get a few-- one for your shoulder to see the screen, one for your belt to see the card. Film yourself demonstrating one of these many exploits. Be sure to not have any footage cut or you might as well entitle it "My hoax." Sure you risk jail, but isn't that worth it to show the country that you were right and that the evil are doing evil? If you actually have strong beliefs about this, I say have at it.
Or keep whining about it, either way.