So, when did the freed slaves become citizens? That was the question.
Good question; although i was responding to the statement that the EP freed the slaves, which people commonly think applied to all slaves when it didn't. Slaves in territories not under rebellion were still slaves. To your question, I would argue slaves became citizens upon the founding of America, as did all other people resident then or by virtue of birth afterward. I would also argue those brought here as slaves post founding became citizens, since there was no law giving them any other status, as any other immigrant where the law did not prevent them form becoming citizens. They did not have full rights as citizens, however, until the passage of the 13th and other Amendments, as decisions such as Dred Scott established.
Which is why Germany produces twice as many cars as the United States while it's workers are getting paid twice as much.
Actually, Germany produces about half as many cars as the US. Even the German cars may not be made in Germany, BMW or example only makes half its cars there and Spartanburg SC is poised to overtake Dingolfing as the highest volume plant. If you buy an X3, X4 or X6, even in Germany, it's made in Spartanburg. Your 3 series, at least the E9x ones, could come from Germany or South Africa. BMW engines, which is what they made their name on, are still produced in Germany and its former wholly owned subsidiary, Austria.
I do agree, however, that H1B's are about getting cheap labor.
The dead hand of government interfering with private contracts between adults is un-American.
Just ask John Galt.
Or most slash-dotters who rant about unions.
The dead hand is only bad when it stops you from doing what you want, not when it forces others to do what you want them to do. Just ask anyone who demands their "religious freedom" the first time someone else's religion lets them do something those demanding "religious freedom" don't like. Free for me but not for thee...
Have you ever heard of the Emancipation Proclamation? Notice how nobody ever made the slaves citizens? They just set them free. Why is that? Oh yes, they were citizens. If they weren't, when did they become citizens?
Actually, the Emancipation Proclamation only freed slaves in territories still under rebellion. A slave held in Maryland, for example, was not freed by it. It covered about 3/4 of the slaves in the US, although since the areas it covered were still under control by the Confederates it had no enforcement until Union troops captured the territory. The 13th amendment made slavery and indentured servitude illegal except for those convicted of a crime.
You read me wrong. I have no problem with Payola as a concept. It's really no different than an infomercial, and there is no shortage of music stations.
I just really dislike the abusive business practices of the record companies.
No worries. yea, cable companies could learn a thing or two about abusive business practices from record companies.
In short, we didn't want to go to the FCC. We just wanted things to operate the way they always had been operating. But the ISPs' greed forced action and then Verizon's greed forced stronger action.
A very reasoned response. Internet access has no resemblance to a free market, at least not like Hayek, Friedman, Mille for any of the other great Chicago gang would define it. The incumbents want to use regulators to maintain their market dominance and eliminate real competition, something another Chicago guy wrote about as well. Open up the last mile to real competition and then you can argue that ISPs should be allowed to charge providers for faster service. However, as long a they maintain a monopoly or duopoly position then regulation is appropriate to ensure everyone gets the same treatment.
The problem underlying this fight is the big ISPs are realizing the connection will be the valuable piece in the future, and not merely a profitable Haddon to there cable business. As Apple, Amazon, Netflix et. al. chip away at the core cable business they (the cable companies / ISP) are looking for ways to protect revenue steams. Preventing others from entering the ISP space is critical to maintaining that revenue stream; and why they are willing to spend big dollars on lawyers, lobbyists and campaign contributions to do so.
The producers and the govt all spruik that the project "will create jobs", but those jobs aren't permanent. Granted, there will be a great deal of money spent in the local economy. The film industry here depends largely on a weak AUD$, which makes it cheaper for foreign producers (mostly USA) to make films here.
That's always the story - this creates jobs; and the politicians love to tout that at every opportunity, especially when elections loom. The reality is, as one economist know, who worked in economic development, put it, "We don't create jobs, we pick winners and losers." Even without incentives, companies will still open plants, make films, etc. if they think they can make money, the incentives only decide where they will do it so there is no net gain; every job "created" means one was not "created" elsewhere. Some place is going to get the jobs, the question that remains is who is willing to pay the most to get them?
do you not understand that the loopholes mean some companies are paying no taxes?
or a minuscule residual to the "winner"? one company paying fair taxes are equal to tens of thousands of such companies
the "winner" is winning pennies or there is no winner. that's the status quo
All true but the problem is countries like to offer tax loopholes because they consider the money that to be essentially free since the company would not be there absent the tax advantages.
Countries also give tax loopholes to companies within their boundaries to keep them there so some they don't pay their "fair" share either. Some give tax breaks to foreigners living there such as not taxing retirement income, so they can essentially pay zero taxes if their home country doesn't tax citizens living abroad. They don't pay their fair share either.
The bottom line is countries setup taxing systems and individuals and companies use the laws as best advantage them. If a high tax country wants companies to locate there they need to lower their taxes or accept companies will do whatever is legal to minimize their tax burden there.
all countries lose when loopholes mean companies don't pay taxes at all
even if there is one "winner" (getting a tiny amount of taxes because a lot of companies file there), the financial pressure the losers can bring to bear on the "winner" isn't worth preserving any status quo
especially since getting actual real taxes from a handful of companies is a lot better than getting pennies from a thousands because of a sleazy loophole
Actually, there are winners and losers. Tax havens lose because they would cease to collect taxes if companies relocated, and thus have no incentive to change their laws. It also means they would not be able to give tax breaks to domestic companies who might be less competitive as a result and go out of business or cut back drastically. The challenge is most companies pay the game while decrying others that do the same.
the motivation is simple: to not be screwed financially. the motivation should be sound and compelling. didn't a lot of countries recently (last 15 years) band together and force switzerland to stop being the secret banking haven for narcothugs, selfish tax dodgers, corrupt politicians, etc around the world? if we can bring sleazy amoral switzerland to heel, we can do this
Except that those countries don't play the same game as Switzerland so there was no net loss to them. Many do play the tax break game and thus have something to lose and so favor the status quo, except when a company minimizes taxes in their jurisdiction.
Governments all over the world have been hoodwinked or bribed to set up loopholes which are beneficial to corporations, and not so good for domestic economies.
It's not just national governments, but local governments as well; who like to tout that they got company X to locate in their jurisdiction, so they grant all sorts of tax cuts to get them to move from place A to place B in the same country. They only get pissed when someone does it to them.
To add to this, people seem to forget everything that happened more than a month ago or so. I'd like to see the computer that would have ditched US flight Airways 1549 perfectly into the Hudson River just minutes after the start.
A point very important you make. Automation is great for instances where sensor data is accurate and a proscribed course of action can be safely followed. More automation can be useful in such cases. However, it's the edge cases where the pilot's judgement is needed to safely operate an aircraft. The USAir 1549 is an excellent example, as is United Flight 232. Could a remote pilot glide a 767 to a safe landing, and avoid cars on the abandoned runway that the copilot happened to know existed, as happened with Gimli Glider? As with many highly complicated devices, automation is a great tool to help the operator in routine, and some casualty, operations; however when things go not as planned and a new twist is added to the scenario you need judgement, not rote rules, and judgement is sorely lacking in automation and difficult to do if you are thousand of miles away and only know what the sensor data feed tells you.
will she explain why off-shoring is good and will her stand on immigration be to open the door sand expand opportunities for people to come here? If not, will she accept that she is a hypocrite for arguing those positions forcefully when she was a CEO and now backs away form them when they become a political liability? As for her entering the presidential race, I'm sure many republicans are happy because she can attack Hillary and they need just to set back and watch without having to take positions they may later regret. Let her take the early fire and when she is done they have an easier path to capture the hill.
It appears from the link calls and text to the UK are free, as is data usage. Are calls to numbers within the country you are roaming include in the no roaming cost deal as well?
So, basically, they are FORCING people to buy the Teslas in another state, thus screwing themselves out of several thousand dollars worth of sales taxes per car?
Wrong. You pay sales tax based on your residence, not the location of your purchase, for things like cars. Try going out-of-state and buying a car and verify it for yourself: the dealership collects sales tax based on your residence, and remits it to that state.
States don't bother enforcing this for things like groceries and other small things, because it's impractical. But for cars, they certainly do.
Alternatively, some states collect sales tax when you register the vehicle. If you get a Manufacturers Statement of Origin and register the vehicle yourself you pay the taxes then. Dealers on't generally do that because they want their $440 document fee (i.e.e extra profit since it is real cheap to send someone to the DMV and drop off the paperwork or simply mail it in) that is printed into the contract so "it has to be charged;" unless of course you get up and start to walk put on the deal because the end price is $440 more than you agreed on.
Rent it for $100 for an hour, or $69,900 for 100,000 years.
Or, sell dealerships for $69,900 with a demonstrator car included.
Actually, I wonder why Musk hasn't created an entirely separately privately owned dealerships in state start don't allow direct sales. He then buys as form tesla and sells them in any manner he wants.
Foundation was one of my favorite books growing up ; )
Anything by Asimov is good, and much is great, and most movies made from his writings suck; and as I noted in another post the best part of some of it is you can take it, rename it, and sell it as a real thing to people.
The cars are stock for the first season for cost reasons, for the second season there are several chassis builders and several power unit suppliers signed up, so there will be a better spread of performance amongst the pack.
Therein lies the great racing divide: vehicles that are essentially identical and thus, in theory, the driver is the difference versus real manufacturer's vehicles so the driver / car combination becomes more important. NASCAR, for example, uses the former model and thus a good driver combined with effective cheating is the route to success. Endurance racing tends to the latter along with having various classes so cars of equal capability race against each other.
In the pilot's case it may not have been the fear of unemployment as much as concern that he would never be able to fly again. Even if he kept his job he would never set goot in a cockpit again and for a pilot that is a significant loss. Failing a physical means not hetting to something you love that transcends being a job and ghus the temptation to hide something if it meant not flying would be great.
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So, when did the freed slaves become citizens? That was the question.
Good question; although i was responding to the statement that the EP freed the slaves, which people commonly think applied to all slaves when it didn't. Slaves in territories not under rebellion were still slaves. To your question, I would argue slaves became citizens upon the founding of America, as did all other people resident then or by virtue of birth afterward. I would also argue those brought here as slaves post founding became citizens, since there was no law giving them any other status, as any other immigrant where the law did not prevent them form becoming citizens. They did not have full rights as citizens, however, until the passage of the 13th and other Amendments, as decisions such as Dred Scott established.
Which is why Germany produces twice as many cars as the United States while it's workers are getting paid twice as much.
Actually, Germany produces about half as many cars as the US. Even the German cars may not be made in Germany, BMW or example only makes half its cars there and Spartanburg SC is poised to overtake Dingolfing as the highest volume plant. If you buy an X3, X4 or X6, even in Germany, it's made in Spartanburg. Your 3 series, at least the E9x ones, could come from Germany or South Africa. BMW engines, which is what they made their name on, are still produced in Germany and its former wholly owned subsidiary, Austria.
I do agree, however, that H1B's are about getting cheap labor.
The dead hand of government interfering with private contracts between adults is un-American.
Just ask John Galt.
Or most slash-dotters who rant about unions.
The dead hand is only bad when it stops you from doing what you want, not when it forces others to do what you want them to do. Just ask anyone who demands their "religious freedom" the first time someone else's religion lets them do something those demanding "religious freedom" don't like. Free for me but not for thee...
The slaves became citizens?
Have you ever heard of the Emancipation Proclamation? Notice how nobody ever made the slaves citizens? They just set them free. Why is that? Oh yes, they were citizens. If they weren't, when did they become citizens?
Actually, the Emancipation Proclamation only freed slaves in territories still under rebellion. A slave held in Maryland, for example, was not freed by it. It covered about 3/4 of the slaves in the US, although since the areas it covered were still under control by the Confederates it had no enforcement until Union troops captured the territory. The 13th amendment made slavery and indentured servitude illegal except for those convicted of a crime.
You read me wrong. I have no problem with Payola as a concept. It's really no different than an infomercial, and there is no shortage of music stations.
I just really dislike the abusive business practices of the record companies.
No worries. yea, cable companies could learn a thing or two about abusive business practices from record companies.
It's even worse when their argument is based around the assumption that Payola is a good thing.
Yeah, I laughed at that as well. It's not like the record industry is the type of business anyone should want to encourage
http://www.theguardian.com/mus...
However, for the libertarian payola is simply an economic transaction between two parties and thus good.
In short, we didn't want to go to the FCC. We just wanted things to operate the way they always had been operating. But the ISPs' greed forced action and then Verizon's greed forced stronger action.
A very reasoned response. Internet access has no resemblance to a free market, at least not like Hayek, Friedman, Mille for any of the other great Chicago gang would define it. The incumbents want to use regulators to maintain their market dominance and eliminate real competition, something another Chicago guy wrote about as well. Open up the last mile to real competition and then you can argue that ISPs should be allowed to charge providers for faster service. However, as long a they maintain a monopoly or duopoly position then regulation is appropriate to ensure everyone gets the same treatment.
The problem underlying this fight is the big ISPs are realizing the connection will be the valuable piece in the future, and not merely a profitable Haddon to there cable business. As Apple, Amazon, Netflix et. al. chip away at the core cable business they (the cable companies / ISP) are looking for ways to protect revenue steams. Preventing others from entering the ISP space is critical to maintaining that revenue stream; and why they are willing to spend big dollars on lawyers, lobbyists and campaign contributions to do so.
The producers and the govt all spruik that the project "will create jobs", but those jobs aren't permanent. Granted, there will be a great deal of money spent in the local economy. The film industry here depends largely on a weak AUD$, which makes it cheaper for foreign producers (mostly USA) to make films here.
That's always the story - this creates jobs; and the politicians love to tout that at every opportunity, especially when elections loom. The reality is, as one economist know, who worked in economic development, put it, "We don't create jobs, we pick winners and losers." Even without incentives, companies will still open plants, make films, etc. if they think they can make money, the incentives only decide where they will do it so there is no net gain; every job "created" means one was not "created" elsewhere. Some place is going to get the jobs, the question that remains is who is willing to pay the most to get them?
do you not understand that the loopholes mean some companies are paying no taxes?
or a minuscule residual to the "winner"? one company paying fair taxes are equal to tens of thousands of such companies
the "winner" is winning pennies or there is no winner. that's the status quo
All true but the problem is countries like to offer tax loopholes because they consider the money that to be essentially free since the company would not be there absent the tax advantages.
Countries also give tax loopholes to companies within their boundaries to keep them there so some they don't pay their "fair" share either. Some give tax breaks to foreigners living there such as not taxing retirement income, so they can essentially pay zero taxes if their home country doesn't tax citizens living abroad. They don't pay their fair share either.
The bottom line is countries setup taxing systems and individuals and companies use the laws as best advantage them. If a high tax country wants companies to locate there they need to lower their taxes or accept companies will do whatever is legal to minimize their tax burden there.
there isn't winners and losers
all countries lose when loopholes mean companies don't pay taxes at all
even if there is one "winner" (getting a tiny amount of taxes because a lot of companies file there), the financial pressure the losers can bring to bear on the "winner" isn't worth preserving any status quo
especially since getting actual real taxes from a handful of companies is a lot better than getting pennies from a thousands because of a sleazy loophole
Actually, there are winners and losers. Tax havens lose because they would cease to collect taxes if companies relocated, and thus have no incentive to change their laws. It also means they would not be able to give tax breaks to domestic companies who might be less competitive as a result and go out of business or cut back drastically. The challenge is most companies pay the game while decrying others that do the same.
the motivation is simple: to not be screwed financially. the motivation should be sound and compelling. didn't a lot of countries recently (last 15 years) band together and force switzerland to stop being the secret banking haven for narcothugs, selfish tax dodgers, corrupt politicians, etc around the world? if we can bring sleazy amoral switzerland to heel, we can do this
Except that those countries don't play the same game as Switzerland so there was no net loss to them. Many do play the tax break game and thus have something to lose and so favor the status quo, except when a company minimizes taxes in their jurisdiction.
Governments all over the world have been hoodwinked or bribed to set up loopholes which are beneficial to corporations, and not so good for domestic economies.
It's not just national governments, but local governments as well; who like to tout that they got company X to locate in their jurisdiction, so they grant all sorts of tax cuts to get them to move from place A to place B in the same country. They only get pissed when someone does it to them.
proscribed
FYI, you mean "prescribed". Proscribed is pretty much the exact opposite.
Yes Speel Cheekers are not always my friend. Thanks for the correction.
To add to this, people seem to forget everything that happened more than a month ago or so. I'd like to see the computer that would have ditched US flight Airways 1549 perfectly into the Hudson River just minutes after the start.
A point very important you make. Automation is great for instances where sensor data is accurate and a proscribed course of action can be safely followed. More automation can be useful in such cases. However, it's the edge cases where the pilot's judgement is needed to safely operate an aircraft. The USAir 1549 is an excellent example, as is United Flight 232. Could a remote pilot glide a 767 to a safe landing, and avoid cars on the abandoned runway that the copilot happened to know existed, as happened with Gimli Glider? As with many highly complicated devices, automation is a great tool to help the operator in routine, and some casualty, operations; however when things go not as planned and a new twist is added to the scenario you need judgement, not rote rules, and judgement is sorely lacking in automation and difficult to do if you are thousand of miles away and only know what the sensor data feed tells you.
at least it seems that way observing the driving habits of those around me.
will she explain why off-shoring is good and will her stand on immigration be to open the door sand expand opportunities for people to come here? If not, will she accept that she is a hypocrite for arguing those positions forcefully when she was a CEO and now backs away form them when they become a political liability? As for her entering the presidential race, I'm sure many republicans are happy because she can attack Hillary and they need just to set back and watch without having to take positions they may later regret. Let her take the early fire and when she is done they have an easier path to capture the hill.
It appears from the link calls and text to the UK are free, as is data usage. Are calls to numbers within the country you are roaming include in the no roaming cost deal as well?
If Congress were to pass some 'Free Sale of Vehicles and American Free Enterprise Act'
I would be surprised given the amount of money car dealers donate to politicians.
So, basically, they are FORCING people to buy the Teslas in another state, thus screwing themselves out of several thousand dollars worth of sales taxes per car?
Wrong. You pay sales tax based on your residence, not the location of your purchase, for things like cars. Try going out-of-state and buying a car and verify it for yourself: the dealership collects sales tax based on your residence, and remits it to that state.
States don't bother enforcing this for things like groceries and other small things, because it's impractical. But for cars, they certainly do.
Alternatively, some states collect sales tax when you register the vehicle. If you get a Manufacturers Statement of Origin and register the vehicle yourself you pay the taxes then. Dealers on't generally do that because they want their $440 document fee (i.e.e extra profit since it is real cheap to send someone to the DMV and drop off the paperwork or simply mail it in) that is printed into the contract so "it has to be charged;" unless of course you get up and start to walk put on the deal because the end price is $440 more than you agreed on.
Rent it for $100 for an hour, or $69,900 for 100,000 years.
Or, sell dealerships for $69,900 with a demonstrator car included.
Actually, I wonder why Musk hasn't created an entirely separately privately owned dealerships in state start don't allow direct sales. He then buys as form tesla and sells them in any manner he wants.
My spped hasn't changed but its price in real dollars, has steadly declined.
Foundation was one of my favorite books growing up ; )
Anything by Asimov is good, and much is great, and most movies made from his writings suck; and as I noted in another post the best part of some of it is you can take it, rename it, and sell it as a real thing to people.
People will actually pay you for this if you call it scenario planning. It's all in the marketing.
The cars are stock for the first season for cost reasons, for the second season there are several chassis builders and several power unit suppliers signed up, so there will be a better spread of performance amongst the pack.
Therein lies the great racing divide: vehicles that are essentially identical and thus, in theory, the driver is the difference versus real manufacturer's vehicles so the driver / car combination becomes more important. NASCAR, for example, uses the former model and thus a good driver combined with effective cheating is the route to success. Endurance racing tends to the latter along with having various classes so cars of equal capability race against each other.
In the pilot's case it may not have been the fear of unemployment as much as concern that he would never be able to fly again. Even if he kept his job he would never set goot in a cockpit again and for a pilot that is a significant loss. Failing a physical means not hetting to something you love that transcends being a job and ghus the temptation to hide something if it meant not flying would be great.