Technically QT is probably one of the best, if not the very best, C++ library in existence, so I don't see interest in keeping it alive dying anytime soon.
And that's precisely why I'm worried about its future.
It will always be a pebble inside everybody's else shoes, making a bit harder to force a lockin on desktop development.
As strategic move, makes sense for MS, Apple e perhaps (but unlikely IMHO) Google to kill this library (I don't think Oracle is still a thread, no one thrust them anymore).
I'm not talking about the dev team, I'm pretty sure they are fully capable to keep QT technically healthy.
I'm talking about a business plan. Troll Tech had one, which I used to criticize before knowing better by the way.
(I was young and could be pretty stupid sometimes)
Open governance or not, the guys will have to do what the main investor wants or will be screwed.
And, speaking frankly, I don't thrust Nokia, now, to do this job.
Heck, I almost developed for QT, and the main reason I did not was Nokia itself.
A year and a little ago, I attended a QT workshop about QT mobile programming. My company paid me for a whole week to fool around with QT, I love it. The only catch being the currently (at the time) Nokia devices not supporting it - besides the promises that this would be fixed soon.
One year (and 2 or 3 projects for Nokia) later, we were inquired why in hell we didn't released anything for QT.
Our answer? "YOU contracted us for jobs using J2ME and HMLT/JS* last year. If you don't want to build QT applications for your devices, why IN HELL would us?"
* Yes, Nokia contracted us to build a S40 WebApp after training us for QT!
Actually, it is not stagnation but reaching a general level of aptitude that is sufficient for their needs and does not require further skill development. As a result, future products are aimed at that level orf aptitude.
This can be true to pop and mom, but to everybody else that needs computers to work, that level of aptitude is clearly insufficient.
Using your analogy, people are buying racing cars and demanding using them as bicycles - to then complain that racing cars does no works.
Believe or not, in some countries the Law states that if you leave your door unlocked, you had invited anyone wanting to enter in your home.
Anyway, every law should be take with a grain of salt. If breaking someone else's home is always a felony, the prison population would be consisted mainly by paramedics.
I don't agree with you. Google knows better then to assume open WiFi are open on purpose. They have a duty because of their knowledge but they took advantage of people who don't know better. wither they are bozos i will leave to you.
No, they don't have such duty. Neither any other company or enterprise.
We can argue about they being morally bound to do so (and I'm probably agree with you), but unfortunately, "knowing better" is government duty. It's for this reason sorely that we grant them so many power with our taxes.
If I order my employee to capture public data, and he with good or bad faith captures more than I demanded, so *I* made a mistake.
We can argue if my employee make a mistake or a felony, but it's undeniable that what I did was a mistake: I shouldn't had trusted the guy and/or I should spent some money on safeguard measures.
Is it possible to abandon violence completely? Yes.
NO, it's not possible to abandon violence. We can transmute it in something else - sporting, playing, perhaps sex. But we cannot abandon violence - it will be always there. We're programmed to be violent since God knows when.
But we can transmute it in something else.
But then someone must *guarantee* that your life and your well-being will be protected.
I must be capable of violence because other people are capable of violence. However, me being capable of violence causes the exact same effect on this exact same people - it's a vicious circle, a catch 22 situation. And it's the reason violence is deeply buried in our genes.
But, as I already said, we can transmute this violence in something else.
Studies on the bonobos suggest that sex is a very effective escape valve to violence. This ape is one of the less violent on the primate species, albeit being on the most sexualized.
Please explain to me exactly what part of the phrase "Violence is one possible (and probably the most common)" you failed to deal with. With assistance, perhaps would be still hope for you.
Now explain me how did you planned to counter-argument my statement that we burn finite stocked fossil fuels to do that, in a very similar situation as a farmer that eats his seeds before seeding?
"Intoxicated" is closely related to a word in my mother tongue that can be translated to English as "poisoned" - while not being a accurate translation. One can be "intoxicated" by consuming a large quantity of something that would be safe in lesser quantity. In my original rationale, agrotoxins.
Drill holes all over the Planet, extract oil, pollute the land and sea in the process, burn the fuel, pollute the air in the process, repeat until the hole is dry, hope to find another one, repeat?
What do you expect from a civilization that burns (finite stocked) fossil fuel on highly polluting vehicles to buy intoxicated food that came from the other half of the world because it's cheaper to do so instead of planting local food?
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Don't call him son, kiddo.
They ported this game to iPhone? X-)
Damnit. English assassination detected. =P
Where I wrote Of course I can dismiss them either, please read Of course I can't dismiss them either .
Sorry.
Technically QT is probably one of the best, if not the very best, C++ library in existence, so I don't see interest in keeping it alive dying anytime soon.
And that's precisely why I'm worried about its future.
It will always be a pebble inside everybody's else shoes, making a bit harder to force a lockin on desktop development.
As strategic move, makes sense for MS, Apple e perhaps (but unlikely IMHO) Google to kill this library (I don't think Oracle is still a thread, no one thrust them anymore).
I'm not talking about the dev team, I'm pretty sure they are fully capable to keep QT technically healthy.
I'm talking about a business plan. Troll Tech had one, which I used to criticize before knowing better by the way.
(I was young and could be pretty stupid sometimes)
Open governance or not, the guys will have to do what the main investor wants or will be screwed.
And, speaking frankly, I don't thrust Nokia, now, to do this job.
Heck, I almost developed for QT, and the main reason I did not was Nokia itself.
A year and a little ago, I attended a QT workshop about QT mobile programming. My company paid me for a whole week to fool around with QT, I love it. The only catch being the currently (at the time) Nokia devices not supporting it - besides the promises that this would be fixed soon.
One year (and 2 or 3 projects for Nokia) later, we were inquired why in hell we didn't released anything for QT.
Our answer? "YOU contracted us for jobs using J2ME and HMLT/JS* last year. If you don't want to build QT applications for your devices, why IN HELL would us?"
* Yes, Nokia contracted us to build a S40 WebApp after training us for QT!
Gnome is not minimalist.
Gnome is, now, MINIMAL. Too minimal to be useful.
Actually, it is not stagnation but reaching a general level of aptitude that is sufficient for their needs and does not require further skill development. As a result, future products are aimed at that level orf aptitude.
This can be true to pop and mom, but to everybody else that needs computers to work, that level of aptitude is clearly insufficient.
Using your analogy, people are buying racing cars and demanding using them as bicycles - to then complain that racing cars does no works.
You take the exceptions as the rule.
There's thousands of British football fans, but you dismissed all of them by the existence of few that choose violence as a form of amusement.
Of course I can dismiss them either, being the reason I said "we can", and not "we must" or "we should".
We are more complex animals than small monkeys, but we are just big monkeys after all. You dismiss things too early.
Sex IS THE ULTIMATE REWARD for a lot of humans, mainly the ones being deprived from it as a mass control mechanism.
QT was bought by Nokia but is released under a LGPL license. It is also actively developed and is the basis for much of KDE.
Don't count on that o the long run. Nokia's future as a software maintainer is uncertain too.
I miss TrollTech.
Nietzsche said that when you stares the abyss, the abyss stares back at you.
But you know your're screwed when you look the abyss, and it turns its face away.
Gnome is fading.
+1 Fscking Insightful.
Must we design the whole world to protect the least competent people from themselves?
Apparently "yes". Maybe the Congressmen who admitted the people are too dumb to rule themselves was correct.
And people complain about that "Idiocracy" crying of mine...
We get what we voted for. Simply like that.
In the UK, recording air traffic control transmissions is illegal. Technically it is even illegal to listen to them.
Good point. the BBC broadcast signal being another good example.
Believe or not, in some countries the Law states that if you leave your door unlocked, you had invited anyone wanting to enter in your home.
Anyway, every law should be take with a grain of salt. If breaking someone else's home is always a felony, the prison population would be consisted mainly by paramedics.
I don't agree with you. Google knows better then to assume open WiFi are open on purpose. They have a duty because of their knowledge but they took advantage of people who don't know better. wither they are bozos i will leave to you.
No, they don't have such duty. Neither any other company or enterprise.
We can argue about they being morally bound to do so (and I'm probably agree with you), but unfortunately, "knowing better" is government duty. It's for this reason sorely that we grant them so many power with our taxes.
If I order my employee to capture public data, and he with good or bad faith captures more than I demanded, so *I* made a mistake.
We can argue if my employee make a mistake or a felony, but it's undeniable that what I did was a mistake: I shouldn't had trusted the guy and/or I should spent some money on safeguard measures.
Is it possible to abandon violence completely? Yes.
NO, it's not possible to abandon violence. We can transmute it in something else - sporting, playing, perhaps sex. But we cannot abandon violence - it will be always there. We're programmed to be violent since God knows when.
But we can transmute it in something else.
But then someone must *guarantee* that your life and your well-being will be protected.
I must be capable of violence because other people are capable of violence. However, me being capable of violence causes the exact same effect on this exact same people - it's a vicious circle, a catch 22 situation. And it's the reason violence is deeply buried in our genes.
But, as I already said, we can transmute this violence in something else.
Studies on the bonobos suggest that sex is a very effective escape valve to violence. This ape is one of the less violent on the primate species, albeit being on the most sexualized.
You overreacted or you do not understand English.
Please explain to me exactly what part of the phrase "Violence is one possible (and probably the most common)" you failed to deal with. With assistance, perhaps would be still hope for you.
No argument here.
Now explain me how did you planned to counter-argument my statement that we burn finite stocked fossil fuels to do that, in a very similar situation as a farmer that eats his seeds before seeding?
The language barrier bit my ass.
"Intoxicated" is closely related to a word in my mother tongue that can be translated to English as "poisoned" - while not being a accurate translation. One can be "intoxicated" by consuming a large quantity of something that would be safe in lesser quantity. In my original rationale, agrotoxins.
This is a example : http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2012/02/22/147254438/fda-says-brazils-orange-juice-is-safe-but-still-illegal
+1 insightful, please.
This guy got a point missed by everybody else in this thread.
The damage was done by the earthquake, but the failure to sustain the damage was caused by the tsunami.
Was necessary BOTH to cause all this mess.
Being the alternative?
Drill holes all over the Planet, extract oil, pollute the land and sea in the process, burn the fuel, pollute the air in the process, repeat until the hole is dry, hope to find another one, repeat?
I did. And I am even more pissed off.
What do you expect from a civilization that burns (finite stocked) fossil fuel on highly polluting vehicles to buy intoxicated food that came from the other half of the world because it's cheaper to do so instead of planting local food?