I don't think the Forbes article was telling the whole story. From bits and pieces I've seen around the web, it seems like AMD is just going to get the Athlon scaled up a little more and shift focus to the ClawHammer. Who cares about a 5GHz P4 if it can't run 64-bit apps which might be common in two years? A lot of people who buy computers today thinking they're hot stuff are going to be very pissed off in the near future when they start having compatbility issues, even if software developers do both 32-bit and 64-bit versions of their apps. If Hammer is on time for next year (Yeah, right!), I suspect we'll see mass migration to 64-bit apps by '05. A lot of people probably don't anticipate upgrading for another five years or more.
I think the idea is for them to get whatever they can out now so that today's high-end gaming hardware can become tomorrow's entry-level hardware. What do you think you would have if the GeForce 2 was just now making it's appearence? A TNT2? Voodoo 3? And who would push the software makers to make better looking games?
Also, reputation helps them gain footing in the OEM market, and that's what counts. Even if Joe Schmoe doesn't know who ATI or nVidia is, Carly Fiorina does.
>>If you want those things, it's simple: vote with your dollars. If everyone stopped buying into these semi-annual incremental upgrades, and insisted on real, substanstial improvement, you'd change the industry overnight.
Hehe, except the NV30 doesn't have an 11.5-inch PCB.
Two slots for a video cooler doesn't seem unreasonable to me. It's not like they're using the second slot, though it may not be illogical. I use normal ATX motherboards with five or six PCI slots, so I usually have more than enough space. However, someone who actually does use all their PCI slots or has a smaller mainboard better hope that the R300 will get by on a smaller cooling solution and that ATi whips their driver team in shape to compete in Linux.
DRM's coming at us no matter what. The first standard to be adopted, good or not, will be what stays with us. I'm glad someone other than Microsoft may be the ones introducing it, as I'm certain that MS would do everything in their power to make it incompatible with rival operating systems. It seems to me that Sony and Philips would be more consumer-friendly with DRM than Microsoft would ever be.
I'll be the first one to defend video game violence should a debate arise, but seeing a picture of a very young-looking animated schoolgirl getting gangraped is too far, even for me.
Yeah... The big re-release patch really cleaned things up, but it was too late. I think gamers were expecting the game to be more like how it is now at it's initial release. Outstanding game, I still have a lot of fun whenever I play it. Get a couple friends on, get voice communications up one way or another, and coordinate a couple bombing runs or beowulf + shrike escorts. Very fun. The fact that there's a Linux version and a Linux re-release update makes it a must-have for any Linux gamer.
Damn right. Even if the drivers are closed source, they sure beat the hell out of nothing. nVidia's doing the right thing by supporting our OS's rather than selling us short. The Radeon 9700 Pro is an impressive piece of hardware, but anybody who buys one with the intent on running accelerated apps in Linux or BSD is an idiot for not taking into consideration ATi's drivers (Or lack there of). Those who buy nVidia cards can enjoy identical performance under Windows and Linux, which is more than many other pieces of hardware can offer (Especially graphics cards).
Give me a kernel tainted with non-GPL code over a Windows kernel any day.
>>Making any judgements from a snapshot intended for a non-interactive demo is ill advised.
I certainly agree with this point, but many people are going to judge it and start spreading FUD anyway. You're gonna think I'm a loon for saying this, but I think it would be wise for id to release an official demo with the E3 maps rather than having people turn to piracy groups to satisfy their curiosity.
Because velocities should add. Tribes 2 is the only game that has this right. Fire a projectile while moving at 100km/h, the projectile's initial velocity should match that and accelerate more from there. T2 mortars also make a lot more sense than Q3 rockets.
I'm quite sick of shooting myself with rockets in Q3 after taking a jump pad (think Longest Yard).
We should begin testing nukes again, just not on Earth...
All of our research for the past many years has been strictly theoretical. I don't like that, but at the same time it's obvious that nuclear testing causes irreversable damage to the environment and contaminates the air. Would it be possible to launch nukes at Mars or something? We need to melt those ice caps anyway... It would take a while for them to reach their destination, but at least we'd kinda-sorta have an idea of how well they perform.
Besides, we need to protect ourselves from those damn aliens that keep vandalizing our crops!
This is one reason why I will never enjoy on-line games as much as LAN games. If someone on-line is cheating, I have to wait for the admin to become convinced and boot him. If I'm at a LAN, I get vengeance by installing Sub Seven on his machine when he makes a bathroom run.
On-line games require that a player communicates with the admins. I'm an admin for the flagen.com server. When people come to us saying 'ban this person he cheats' then we usually ask the regulars before taking action. When a regular accuses someone of cheating, their opinion is held higher and their evidence is taken more into consideration than people who we've never heard of.
I noticed the screenshots provided seem to have fewer ads then when I visit those pages on my desktop, such as The Register which is supposed to have four banner ads on above and to the right of an article. I wonder if future versions of Opera for the desktop will offer such technology even through it's not needed.
It would probably be a bad thing though. Opera aleady has enough problems displaying pages properly (I still love it, though), I don't think they'll want to have a bunch of pissed off webmasters intentionally using non-compatible design.
...to regain their reputation as a company pushing the envelope in video game vulgarity. Remember how big of a hit Mortal Kombat was when it first came out? Pure shock value. Acclaim made a killing off it, as well as MK2, and even made a movie out of it the video game.
Since then we've had countless other fighting games, some of which were purely copycat games, others which introduced new technology such as 3D arenas, which Acclaim hasn't really been keeping up with. Now that gore fest fighting games are no longer so offensive, perhaps even tame compared to gore fest shooters like Quake 3 and Unreal Tournament, they decide to make money off the next most provocative cultural taboo--Sex.
What's next? A game about wife beaters? Kids who set fire to animals? No, I'm not some paranoid Rosie 'O Donnel wannabe, and I'm glad id won their lawsuit against those neglegent deadbeat Columbine parents, but there is a point when it just becomes painfully obvious that some in the entertainment business are out to take advantage of stupid kids with too much money by offering them the forbidden fruit in a medium their parents are likely very ill-informed about.
I don't know if things have changed much in the past year, but last I heard it was because companies are paranoid and don't want to share adequate documentation necessary to make LinuxBIOS a success for both cluster applications and home users. Video chipset makers like nVidia and ATi wouldn't tell them how to initialize VGA BIOS, AMD wouldn't tell them how to initialize L2 cache on the Athlons. Setbacks in documentation. About the only company who's not a bunch of jerks to these guys is SiS... Click here to see a list of their working motherboards. I'm tempted to get a K7SEM just to see how well it works in it's current state.
Heat dissipation is always a problem with fast CPUs too. Doesn't do you much good to double up your nodes if you have them crashing all the time, or downthrottling.
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I don't think the Forbes article was telling the whole story. From bits and pieces I've seen around the web, it seems like AMD is just going to get the Athlon scaled up a little more and shift focus to the ClawHammer. Who cares about a 5GHz P4 if it can't run 64-bit apps which might be common in two years? A lot of people who buy computers today thinking they're hot stuff are going to be very pissed off in the near future when they start having compatbility issues, even if software developers do both 32-bit and 64-bit versions of their apps. If Hammer is on time for next year (Yeah, right!), I suspect we'll see mass migration to 64-bit apps by '05. A lot of people probably don't anticipate upgrading for another five years or more.
Yeah there is. The FX comes from nVidia's shading engine, "CineFX," as in cinematic effects.
The GeForce 3DFX would be a hoot, though.
I think the idea is for them to get whatever they can out now so that today's high-end gaming hardware can become tomorrow's entry-level hardware. What do you think you would have if the GeForce 2 was just now making it's appearence? A TNT2? Voodoo 3? And who would push the software makers to make better looking games?
Also, reputation helps them gain footing in the OEM market, and that's what counts. Even if Joe Schmoe doesn't know who ATI or nVidia is, Carly Fiorina does.
Stupid bbcode habits. Let's try that again (Though it severly diminishes dramatic effect):
NEVER!
>>If you want those things, it's simple: vote with your dollars. If everyone stopped buying into these semi-annual incremental upgrades, and insisted on real, substanstial improvement, you'd change the industry overnight.
[b]Never![/b]
Hehe, except the NV30 doesn't have an 11.5-inch PCB.
Two slots for a video cooler doesn't seem unreasonable to me. It's not like they're using the second slot, though it may not be illogical. I use normal ATX motherboards with five or six PCI slots, so I usually have more than enough space. However, someone who actually does use all their PCI slots or has a smaller mainboard better hope that the R300 will get by on a smaller cooling solution and that ATi whips their driver team in shape to compete in Linux.
DRM's coming at us no matter what. The first standard to be adopted, good or not, will be what stays with us. I'm glad someone other than Microsoft may be the ones introducing it, as I'm certain that MS would do everything in their power to make it incompatible with rival operating systems. It seems to me that Sony and Philips would be more consumer-friendly with DRM than Microsoft would ever be.
I'll be the first one to defend video game violence should a debate arise, but seeing a picture of a very young-looking animated schoolgirl getting gangraped is too far, even for me.
...for many is to circumvent child pornography laws (you sick fucks).
Yeah... The big re-release patch really cleaned things up, but it was too late. I think gamers were expecting the game to be more like how it is now at it's initial release. Outstanding game, I still have a lot of fun whenever I play it. Get a couple friends on, get voice communications up one way or another, and coordinate a couple bombing runs or beowulf + shrike escorts. Very fun. The fact that there's a Linux version and a Linux re-release update makes it a must-have for any Linux gamer.
Damn right. Even if the drivers are closed source, they sure beat the hell out of nothing. nVidia's doing the right thing by supporting our OS's rather than selling us short. The Radeon 9700 Pro is an impressive piece of hardware, but anybody who buys one with the intent on running accelerated apps in Linux or BSD is an idiot for not taking into consideration ATi's drivers (Or lack there of). Those who buy nVidia cards can enjoy identical performance under Windows and Linux, which is more than many other pieces of hardware can offer (Especially graphics cards).
Give me a kernel tainted with non-GPL code over a Windows kernel any day.
>>Making any judgements from a snapshot intended for a non-interactive demo is ill advised.
I certainly agree with this point, but many people are going to judge it and start spreading FUD anyway. You're gonna think I'm a loon for saying this, but I think it would be wise for id to release an official demo with the E3 maps rather than having people turn to piracy groups to satisfy their curiosity.
Because velocities should add. Tribes 2 is the only game that has this right. Fire a projectile while moving at 100km/h, the projectile's initial velocity should match that and accelerate more from there. T2 mortars also make a lot more sense than Q3 rockets.
I'm quite sick of shooting myself with rockets in Q3 after taking a jump pad (think Longest Yard).
Yep. Hence the name Blue Gene, and blue implying Big Blue.
We should begin testing nukes again, just not on Earth...
All of our research for the past many years has been strictly theoretical. I don't like that, but at the same time it's obvious that nuclear testing causes irreversable damage to the environment and contaminates the air. Would it be possible to launch nukes at Mars or something? We need to melt those ice caps anyway... It would take a while for them to reach their destination, but at least we'd kinda-sorta have an idea of how well they perform.
Besides, we need to protect ourselves from those damn aliens that keep vandalizing our crops!
This is one reason why I will never enjoy on-line games as much as LAN games. If someone on-line is cheating, I have to wait for the admin to become convinced and boot him. If I'm at a LAN, I get vengeance by installing Sub Seven on his machine when he makes a bathroom run.
On-line games require that a player communicates with the admins. I'm an admin for the flagen.com server. When people come to us saying 'ban this person he cheats' then we usually ask the regulars before taking action. When a regular accuses someone of cheating, their opinion is held higher and their evidence is taken more into consideration than people who we've never heard of.
I noticed the screenshots provided seem to have fewer ads then when I visit those pages on my desktop, such as The Register which is supposed to have four banner ads on above and to the right of an article. I wonder if future versions of Opera for the desktop will offer such technology even through it's not needed.
It would probably be a bad thing though. Opera aleady has enough problems displaying pages properly (I still love it, though), I don't think they'll want to have a bunch of pissed off webmasters intentionally using non-compatible design.
Doesn't sound like much of an option...
How does the consumer benefit from having their privacy stripped from them?
What will Microsoft do to ensure that consumers fully understand the contents of the EULA before purchasing Windows and inadvertantly agreeing to it?
Will the Palladium box have a picture of Thomas Jefferson with a giant red X through his head?
Bravo on a job well done.
...to regain their reputation as a company pushing the envelope in video game vulgarity. Remember how big of a hit Mortal Kombat was when it first came out? Pure shock value. Acclaim made a killing off it, as well as MK2, and even made a movie out of it the video game.
Since then we've had countless other fighting games, some of which were purely copycat games, others which introduced new technology such as 3D arenas, which Acclaim hasn't really been keeping up with. Now that gore fest fighting games are no longer so offensive, perhaps even tame compared to gore fest shooters like Quake 3 and Unreal Tournament, they decide to make money off the next most provocative cultural taboo--Sex.
What's next? A game about wife beaters? Kids who set fire to animals? No, I'm not some paranoid Rosie 'O Donnel wannabe, and I'm glad id won their lawsuit against those neglegent deadbeat Columbine parents, but there is a point when it just becomes painfully obvious that some in the entertainment business are out to take advantage of stupid kids with too much money by offering them the forbidden fruit in a medium their parents are likely very ill-informed about.
Hmm, 1Mbit / sec = .125MByte/sec. .125MBytes/sec * (60 sec * 90) = 675MB
675MB is the theoretical best for one of these new movies, correct? How can you fit two of those on one CD?
I don't know if things have changed much in the past year, but last I heard it was because companies are paranoid and don't want to share adequate documentation necessary to make LinuxBIOS a success for both cluster applications and home users. Video chipset makers like nVidia and ATi wouldn't tell them how to initialize VGA BIOS, AMD wouldn't tell them how to initialize L2 cache on the Athlons. Setbacks in documentation. About the only company who's not a bunch of jerks to these guys is SiS... Click here to see a list of their working motherboards. I'm tempted to get a K7SEM just to see how well it works in it's current state.
http://www.acl.lanl.gov/linuxbios/clusters/shrek/i ndex.html
o /i ndex.html
http://www.acl.lanl.gov/linuxbios/clusters/bent
Heat dissipation is always a problem with fast CPUs too. Doesn't do you much good to double up your nodes if you have them crashing all the time, or downthrottling.