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Doom 3 Alpha Leaked
Alex_Ionescu writes "The Doom 3 E3 Demo Alpha has leaked to the public. It looks promising, altough I'm only getting 12FPS on a Radeon 7500. Did anyone else have the chance to play it and could post their FPS? Here are some sites with more information and screenshots: here , here, here, and finally here. "
is this a 'bad' leak? or was it done on purpose or what?
This looks really nice... but will there be any hardware avalible that can play it?
*ducks*
My potato gun was confiscated by the United Nations. They said I wasn't allowed to have weapons of mash destruction.
This computer truly is a monster
Wow a screenshot of the cvarlist
-dk
...News for Nerds, 0-Day Warez!
NO CARRIER
The second site actually has the alpha up for download. Someone's in for a HEFTY bill, methinks.
The preview of UT2003 I saw came with a nice piece of spyware that tracked everything burned to CDR and then periodically emailed that info to an address on the net. Best check out D3 to make sure.
According to this site, the demo was leaked by an ATI employee.
Shame on them...
Start the reactor!
:P
Um.. Crap, I can't play it, I only have a Matrox G400.
Maybe they leaked the alpha on purpose because they knew practically no one can play it. Well unless of course you just stare at the ground the entire game.
Looks really cool though, do we get a chainsaw again?
R4NT.com - A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices.
This happened earlier this week. I have had it on my machine for several days now.
I got a copy from other places and trust me you guys arnt missing much. When id says 'alpha' they mean it.
AZTEK
go to http://dcplusplus.sorgeforge.net and download it and then use it to connect to wes.homelinux.com. Search for doomiii.rar
Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?
I wonder if this story has anything to do with the ad at the top of it for a Radeon 9700...
I agree. What's the point of giving us a really pretty survival horror on mars video game? Take away the 'on mars' and what have you got? Resident Evil for the Gamecube.
This is a fascinating study in what can be done with pixel shaders etc. but I want some good old-fashioned gameplay with my eye candy, please.
for those who don't want to bother with the mirror site and just download from newsgroups..
:-)
alt.binaries.games.worms is offering the Doom III Alpha copy..
there will be plenty of reposts.. so take your time
"The ones who dont do anything are always the ones who try to pull you down" -- Henry Rollins
Hmm, strange, the only add I see is for the Radeon9700...
How convinient.
My machine is a p4 2.4 w/ a 64mb Radeon 8500. I have 512 megs DDR. Running at 800x600, medium detail, with bumpmapping enable, I am averaging around 20-25 FPS.
Try killing any and all non essential processes running in the background. Also, try killing and multiple monitors (just unclick the "extend my desktop...", you dont have to pull other cards out).
My friend has a GeForce4 4200 and he only got 12 fps no matter what resolution he used.
Some fo you /.ers make no sence at all.
--LordKaT
I should add that that is where I read it could be downloaded. I haven't tried it for myself.
Does the name Pavlov ring a bell?
One possibility of what will happen is what seems common to me when things are leaked. People play it, and they like/dislike a certain feature. Then when it's taken out/changed, they complain, when they never would have seen it (or missed it) otherwise. When people get to play something like this, they seem to think that it's their game.
Another possibility is that people play it and think it's the best game ever (and when it changes, complain, as above). If this doesn't happen, then the other extreme does, and that one seems a bit common to me. People play it, it's got lots of problems (it's an internal alpha, what do you expect) and so they say it's terrible, etc when the work on it is no where near complete. So when it DOES come out, alot of these people have already made up their minds.
I do think that this is news, and I'm glad it made it onto slashdot, but I DON'T think that slashdot should be posting mirrors to the leaked alpha (I know they'd show up in the comments but still...)
Comment forecast: Bits of genius surrounded by a sea of mediocrity.
And in other news (TOTALLY UNRELATED) today, sales of high end Nvidia and ATI cards goes up by 1000%.
My photolog
Look at those screenshots -
The antialiasing is all wrong.
In two screenshots, it says Doom III Alpha. In the rest it says Doom III Codename Alpha. Who calls 'alpha' a code name?
There are obvious photoshop artifacts all over the place.
Anyway, ID's got to be one of the companies the least worried about leaked alphas at this moment, since the only people who can run it are the weirdos who buy $400 video cards every four months, suggesting that they have the cash to happily buy the game when it comes out.. Not like all those warez kiddies who photoshop screenshots on the computers their parents buy for them.
You'd almost think a 'net company would know
my fps was incredibly slow even with my g4 4400, and didn't really even approach the 12 fps stated in the post. This leak is really good for the graphics card makers, as the slow play rate lends itself nicely to buying a new graphics card to make this highly anticipated game playable. Obviously they will improve performance later on in production, but things still don't look promising for my current system...
"Hey brother Christian with your high and mighty errand / your actions speak so loud I can't hear a word you're saying"
I have a GF4 MX on a duron 800 and I was getting 7 FPS. looked as good as the hype though.
And Nuke every thread w/o warning
Im running a gf3 on an athlon 950 with 384mb of ram (non-ddr), and I'd estimate I got about 5-10fps max.. once the motion blur starts, that number drops considerably, to probably about 2-3. It's almost as if its software rendering. This is the e3 demo, which was compiled, at the latest, about 5 months ago. So who knows where it is now.
From the videos I've seen, and from what I've played, it just seems like doom with pretty graphics, which isn't very interesting at all. These are just demos, however, and what's really in the game could be hidden.
Incidentally.. I didnt check for a cfg file for the controls, but here are the defaults:
a: backward
s: strafe left
d: strafe right
mouse secondary: forward
mouse primary : fire weapon
mouse scroll : weapon change
Umm, resident evil for the gamecube? Sorry, pre-rendered backgrounds don't count. Next you'll be saying that Myst has the greatest graphics ever.
since this alpha seems to be heavily optimized for the R300 aka ATI9700 (or more precisely: not optimized AT ALL for any other card) it might have been leaked on purpose so the FramesPerSecond-Whores (hello Kyle Bennett) out there run to the shops to get theit 9700 to play the shiny new Doom3.
or maybe it was leaked just in time for the NV30 to demonstrate that it does kick the 9700's butt in Doom3. sure it was leaked by an ATI employee?
keep it simple.
this is what peer to peer is for, get it of of the news groups and out on limewire and kazaa. please, or give me a good link to what to DL
I want 2D games back.
http://www.thegameclans.com/doom3pics/high%20res/s hot0054.jpg
Do those urinals have CAMERAS strategically attached to them????? Creepy...
I believe the problem was with the fact that gameplay is the exact same as say, resident evil. Missed the point didnt u. Basically, people are just fed up with eye candy for the sake of eye candy only. See, most eye candy games do NOT have great gameplay now do they? They simply "look" good...
To use an old cliché, she aint pretty, she just looks that way.
I'm surprised that Slashdot are posting links to places with information about this, reporting it is one thing, pointing people to places they can probably get it is another.
Saying that though, I did get it yesterday. 30fps easy when walking around, drops to 1 or 2 when in any kind of firefight. But even though it's unoptimised, uncomplete and even contains a bug that stopped id from showing it at full quality during E3 - it's fabulous. I look forward to plonking down my £35 as soon as it's available next year for real.
Has anyone noticed that the links in this article are ILLEGAL? And not just controversial, civil-disobedience, megacoprs-bought-the-law-to-oppress-us "illegal", but violation-of-NDA and warez-illegal? I thought at least the Slashdot editors were smarter and more ethical than this.
I'm getting about 60-80FPS on 1600x1200.
Ohhhhhh, I forgot to mention that I'm using an GForce 5 18500MX that leaked off some guy after I had hit him on the head with steel pipe last night.
What? Run. Run. Run. Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. Kill. Kill. Grab ammo. Grab ammo. Change weapons. Shoot. Shoot. Feel Asshole go from O to . after going down a dark and lonely hall way to find a million imps waiting on the other side.
This isn't good gameplay?
Non impediti ratione cogitationus.
Possible reaction posted by id software:
Xian> ATI leaked it
Xian> oh we will. We are hoping our rep gets fired.
Xian> John sent them a flame mail yesterday basically saying "This has hurt our relationship"
Xian> haha, no
Xian> not really
Xian> they sent us a development laptop with a full build of Unreal Warfare on it
Xian> yep
Xian> Well, we deleted it
Xian> that's a whole can of worms we don't want to get into
Xian> yeah, well, ATI has clearly violated our NDA
Xian> we thought about that.
Xian> but, no
Xian> ATI is on our shitlist righ tnow
Xian> we are not dealing with them until further notice
Xian> no, it's not public chiQ
Xian> We know ATI leaked it. We watermark all releases
Xian> Squiggle: ATI has a relaxed policy about pre-release software. Remeber, they ave us a laptop that had Unreal Warfare loaded on it 3 months ago
Xian> They don't seem to care about strict enforcement of NDA's
Xian> on a positive note, people seem to *REALLY LIKE* the leaked shit
posted anon cos i dont need stinkin karma
s(TM)
This was faked
Plus, the poster I replied to made no mention of resident evil, so Im willing to bet your dumbass replied to the wrong post. "Didn't u?"
Fucking 'tard.
--LordKaT
Oh and you seriously need about 1Gb of ram. Even if you have a normal system with 512MB you'll get to watch your page file hit the 1GB mark. I personally think your better off waiting for the a real demo, but I hardly think that's going to disuade anyone from downloading it.
Failing that, the more direct approach is to copy and paste the following links into your edonkey or overnet client's console (aka message) window:t |302|01c39f4c97aae55beab8f9517aed8740| 1 972|1d67104ded376842d34827573abcdc64|
dllink ed2k://|file|doom3.e3-demo.README.ShareReactor.tx
(.. for the README instruction file)
and
dllink ed2k://|file|doom3.e3-demo.ShareReactor.rar|38178
(.. for the actual EXE demo for PC).
The demo file is in RAR format. You will need the WinRAR utility installed to decompress it. The download is a trial version that is time-limited, but it will work for you.
Taken from HTGK, no word on it's validity, but still interesting:
"Xian> ATI leaked it
Xian> oh we will. We are hoping our rep gets fired.
Xian> John sent them a flame mail yesterday basically saying "This has hurt our relationship"
Xian> haha, no
Xian> not really
Xian> they sent us a development laptop with a full build of Unreal Warfare on it
Xian> yep
Xian> Well, we deleted it
Xian> that's a whole can of worms we don't want to get into
Xian> yeah, well, ATI has clearly violated our NDA
Xian> we thought about that.
Xian> but, no
Xian> ATI is on our shitlist right now
Xian> we are not dealing with them until further notice
Xian> no, it's not public chiQ
Xian> We know ATI leaked it. We watermark all releases
Xian> Squiggle: ATI has a relaxed policy about pre-release software. Remeber, they gave us a laptop that had Unreal Warfare loaded on it 3 months ago
Xian> They don't seem to care about strict enforcement of NDA's
Xian> on a positive note, people seem to *REALLY LIKE* the leaked shit"
"Upon attaching the waterblock to my penis, I began to notice that I know nothing about computers." -- JRockway
The next generation of game engines looks really good. Real light sources with real cast shadow are cool. Bump and specular mapping is cooler. Now if only someone would leak the developer tools for the new engine...
Sig removed because it was obnoxious
How can a link be illegal? It is just a pointer to information.
> I have a GF4 MX on a duron 800 and I was getting 7 FPS
I'm not surprised. Carmack has already stated that you should not buy a GeForce 4MX for doom.
were you expecting to see a sig here? perhaps you'd rather see the inside of an ambulance!
I don't believe slashdot posted this. Isn't it considered piracy in the worst form? Now EVERYONE on the planet will be after a copy (as ever 1/2 the world was not after it already). Sucked that JC's labor of love is exposed to the world in such an incomplete state.
:)
I will get off my moral high horse now and look for a copy
I'm not sure if this is some kind of ploy working with various hardware manufacturers, but I ain't falling for it. Any game that's so ridiculously poorly written that you need a $2000 machine to run it on isn't worth getting. Hell, Warcraft 3 runs great on my P 1.2 laptop with who knows what kind of graphics card. Why is this so ridiculously hardware intensive? Hell, a $200 PS2 offers better performance at a fraction of the price.
1.4GHz Athlon, 512MB SDR, 128MB Ti4200 with 500MHz memory clock.
I get about 20FPS in 640*480, with interesting parts happily going into jerk-o-vision (~10FPS). It takes an age to load, eats memory, and isn't very stable.
~1fps on a dual p3/800, 1gb ram, radeon 7500. Gee, think I'll need a new pc?
Not compared to run jump slide flip run jump jump jump slide jump fly shoot jump fly shoot jump fly shoot. Feel smile broaden after beating an amazingly cool puzzle.
Super Mario Sunshine rocks your socks when it comes to gameplay.
--
pants ahoy
What are the odds on /. taking this story down by 8am tomorrow morning? I mean, really, did they check to see if Id intentionally leaked this?
What is music when you despise all sound?
tip: 120 fps of junk game is still a junk game.
Unreal alpha also leaked before it was released. It also required twice as much memory and processor power than the final version.
I wouldn't draw any conclusions about the 3D-engine efficiency before the final version is released.
i guess i just have my maching configured right or something
it takes 43 muscles to smile and 3 to pull the trigger of a gun that is next to the head of a troll.
Yesterday we cried because games and game studios fail. Today we rejoice because an up-coming game has been leaked. We want to have our cake and eat it too. This mentality is a good part of the reason our types aren't taken seriously.
"Would it kill you to put down the toilet seat?" -- Maya Angelou
Has anyone gotten it working in any of the wine releases?
I'm certainly not an innocent when it comes to downloading software, but this most certainly doesn't belong on /.
If you want to pirate software, go somewhere else. This shouldn't be a forum for a bunch of links on where to download this pre-release game. Send a damn private message if you have to. It's not like the people with a will can't find it on their own, now that they know it's out there.
When I was a lot younger I watched a lot of horror movies. Giant ants, space aliens, zombies, you name it, getting splattered all over the screen. Nowadays I cringe so much at the outlandish rubbish in these movies that I can't stand to watch them for more than 10 minutes or so. I guess I grew old.
/. and watching porn?
Anyway from that perspective I understand why (mostly younger) people might like these games. They are basically just souped-up horror movies. What I don't understand, however, is why these games are being hailed as some kind of magnificent achievement on the part of Id software. After all it's just pulp, and I never considered the horror movies I watched in my youth to be ground-breaking or otherwise significant.
The only reason I can think of why these games would warrant the kind of dedication I see you guys put into it (very expensive graphics cards, hours upon hours of playing to gain skill) is when they well, basically define your universe. Which leads me to wonder, do you guys ever do anything besides playing games, reading
I Considered submitting this story 2 days ago when I first got the Alpha build, but was afraid of possible legal repercussions. Was I wrong to be afraid, is there not a reasonable chance of getting in trouble for admitting in a VASTLY public forum that I am in possesion of such contraband?
Running a P4 1.9ghz with a Gforce3 64mb videocard and 512megs of RDRAM im getting about 15-20 fps. What I find most interesting is the ability to add your own lights, but whenever I do so, I get about 5fps if im lucky.
"There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals."
To get the leaked doom alpha running a little smoother or your POS system. Open the "doomconfig.cfg" in wordpad (not notepad, as it can screw things up sometimes). Scroll to the bottom of the file, and work your way up changing the following settings:
seta r_ext_compress_textures "1" seta r_colorbits "16" seta r_depthbits "16" seta r_mode "3" seta r_fullscreen "1" seta r_shadows "0" seta r_useStandardGL "1"
This should get your fps up a little bit, but you will lose some very nice eye candy!
Will winex run it?
Or am I going to have to install that leaked version of Longhorn after all?
microsoftword.mp3 - it doesn't care that they're not words...
It's a shame that Slashdot actually links to this software. Id software and John Carmack have been very supportive of the community, ignoring reverse engineering even though their licenses don't allow it and giving a lot of information about the technologies. All you should NEED until the game is released are screenshots and the movies. So don't spoil it for you and others.
Keep in mind that this version is the same version used at the E3 presentation, which means it was optimized for a Radeon 9700, which has been boasting some pretty impressive fps scores. I get only about 20 fps on my Geforce4ti/4200 (128mb version), and my framerate drops below 5 when more than 1 monster is on the screen.
If you want the demo, don't use filesharing apps...they've been too unreliable for the file. Try doin a search on packetnews for IRC channels that host the file (I got mine at addictz.net #datavault).
Sigs are for losers
There is just as much evidence to support that "log" as being the truth as there is to support this "log" which I just retrieved from IRC:
I am the QUEEEEEN OF FRANCE!!!!
Translation: both are probably fake.
The graphical jump on Doom3 from ANYTHING out right now is 10 fold. You can go play your Warcraft 3 all you want, but it doesnt look ANYTHING like Doom3. This is as real as we've gotten so far, and you better upgrade because it's going to set the bar for every new game on the market like Doom and Quake both did. If you dont like games, best stay away from whats going to happen in the next year.
System:
AMD T-Bird 1400, 512 mb ddr, Creative GF4 Ti4200.
Windows 2000 with Service Pack 3.
30.82 NVIDIA Detonator Drivers.
Running at 640x480x32, I average at 30 fps when using low quality settings. When there's heavy action on screen, the framerates drop below 5. The intro "map e3\intro" is absolutely jaw dropping, albeit beit pretty slow on my machine. After watching the intro and playing around with the 3 included maps, I have no wonders that people at E3 were complaining that "Stop showing us the pre-rendered stuff, show us the engine" to which ID employees responded with something along the lines of "Well, this *IS* the engine". My knowledge of English is not good enough to be able to express how impressive this thing is. The scary atmosphere, lighting, shadows, creepy noises. ID did it all right. This is far from the "real thing", as it's only an Alpha of the engine that was shown months ago and the full game is still months off. Still. Two Words: My GOD.
P.S: I hear that this thing also has Multiplayer and the Editor included as well, but you have to hack around to get them to work.
well I got it to see how my system will run the game when it comes out. I know its not optimized yet, and is buggy, so remember that these are extremely preliminary numbers.
;-)
:-)
I am running:
asus TUSL2-C
celeron 1.2 OCed to 1.4 (tualatin)
PNY geforce 4 ti 4200 OCed to 4400
512 MB Crucial PC 133 RAM
results:
I average 10-20 FPS in most instances, when multiple zombies or imps come at me, the FPS can slow down to 2 or even 0
the game is beautiful and I will buy it when it comes out, once I get the beta and the demo of course, and optimize my system for the games release
I am rather pleased though, I figured my system would just choke on it since its not a god box, but it was able to at least run the game.
I have tried other alphas in the past and my experience has always been that performance was about 1/3 of real gameplay. So once the real game comes out, I expect to get a huge boost in performance.
I'm sure all the guys at ID aren't too happy, but they should understand that us folks that like to tweak systems, are more or less not getting this to play the game, but to get our systems ready for when the game actually hits the shelves.
Huh? What the fuck is wrong with downloading the alpha? You might be disillusioned or something if you don't remember it's an early built, but hell, nobody is losing any money. I have no idea why you think playing the alpha is disrespectful, of all things. (For the record, I haven't ... yet.)
Switch back to Slashdot's D1 system.
... but I WANT to be spoiled :)
I am the Barber of Seville.
There's too many things wrong with what you just said; you can't possibly be for real.
!!!WARNING!!!!!
Above is goatse link.
Just tryin to keep the public informed.
-D
You have lost what little respect I had left for you.
Just when I thought Slashdot couldn't get any worse you guys had to go and pull this shit.
Advocating WAREZ now, eh? Wonderful.
How many of your readers do you suppose are software developers? Did you stop and consider how they would feel about SLASHDOT ADVOCATING the stealing of software?
You guys bitch and whine about possible GPL violations by comercial companies yet post links to download STOLEN software? So what if its ALPHA software and not commerically viable, You guys are accomplices in stealling proprietary software.
The editor that posted this story should be FIRED IMMEDIATLY!
Had you removed the links to download the software I wouldn't have a beef. The story is news worthy BUT by including the links to download the software you are no longer reporting news you are now ADVOCATING the stealing of software.
Hey, it may or may not be illegal to post the links but you know what, it's not RIGHT.
Fucking Idiots!
I would suspect this stunt has landed Slashdot on ID software's shit list.
Good luck getting any future interviews with J.Carmack.
Maybe Slashdot is just claiming to act like the Press and spread the news, but this is illegal software, chaps. Heck, even Carmack posts here and CmdrTaco feels it necessary to "break" the story and also link to a site that claims to host RAR files of the actual leaked alpha?
Great job.
I was hoping to avoid ANY contact with Doom III until it was released (linux version of course) One of the things that made the original Doom so awesome and scary to me was that I had only heard of it at the time. No screenshots, no video's no nothing. I played it with a pretty clean slate. Figuring the name Doom III itself was hype enough, I emailed John Carmack pleading for no ScreenShots, no nothing until after the game was released. No luck there. well ok, I can avoid them. Then the video's came. BAH! damn u! It was getting hard to avoid it, NOW the damn thing is leaked, No it isnt 'the' game, but its pretty much a good look at whats coming. Shit. All the surprise has been spoiled, because Everywhere I go, there is a screenshot posted FRONTPAGE, Bah.. Damn u ATI (or whoever leaked it) Damn u all!
Thank you. Drive through. (:wq)
Remember its only in alpha stage, and in no way is the code even closed to being optimized.
runs pretty nicely for me: athlon 1600, 512 ram, geforce 3 wimp version. playable, which is rather cool for such tech.
Dammit, now I have to reload at -1 to see what you are talking about
I have a Radeon 9700 with AXP @ 1620MHz, 512 MB RAM, nForce motherboard
Ran alpha demo @ 1024x768 and framerates run 30-50 on default settings (all eye candy :-)), probably 35 average.
Remarkable I think considering that when Quake came out, Voodoo 1 cards were running that at 30 fps tops!
I am still recovering....
Look at the "information wants to be free" people carping about the warezed Doom demo.
Oh, it's only ok to steal stuff if it isn't from Id, right?
DON'T DO IT!!
Hey i'm on it right now with 150 other people all saying the same thing...
The parent doesn't deserve mod points because there IS no doom 3 here. Completely useless utter nonsense dog dick crap. SO MOD THE PARENT DOWN
kthnx bye.
http://saveie6.com/
I refuse to play Doom ]I[ until they leak the version ported to linux.
A game that is an exception to this is Rez--a game full of visual and audio beauty, and some of the best gameplay I've enountered on a console. Who cares if it's only an hour long? It's so wonderful I could play it for hours on end...
Every skript kiddie in sundry is going to be trying to put out trojanised editions of this leaked version.
Keep this in mind if you plan on downloading it.
Actually, how do we know that original leak didn't have a custom-built trojan in it? Even ID might've put some phone-home code in it to keep tracks on whether the NDA is being obeyed.
Oh please, get off your high horse already.
"show some respect already. "
Cough, umm ok. I'll show respect when the game industry starts repecting me first.
They can start by finishing games before they release them and not doing the 25MB patch a month later.
Next you'll be saying that Myst has the greatest graphics ever.
I love an FPS much as the next guy but there has been little true innovation in the field for way too long. Doom was released in, what, '94? Look at UT2003 and, well, Doom 3. Pretty, sure, but not much more than a new 3D-rendering engine and different ways of blowing the crap out of your opponent, be they AI or human.
And like I said, the Survival Horror thing has been done! I don't particularly care if Doom 3's stuff is real-time and RE for the Gamecube isn't. In the end we're paying for the same thing: more and more expensive hardware for the shallow feel of saying "ooh pretty". I'm not saying Doom 3 won't have good gameplay (logically I can't not having dl-ed the alpha) but everything Carmack says about it (weak LAN-play, no secondary fire modes, etc.) makes it sound like it will be a very pretty, very boring game.
Maybe it will all be in the presentation. The ugly monster jumps out from behind a pillar and yells "boo!". That's been done, too. I just don't like the idea of plunking down $1000 for the ATI 20000 just so I can play my $50 game with half-ass gameplay. It reeks of the video game industry following hollywood's business model.
when u turn down all of the graphics settings, doom 3 looks worse and runs slower than quake 3! nice job, john dumbass!
I second this, the parent (of the parent) has no friggin' clue what he is talking about. No doom3 here, tried it. Its a hit and miss and a big waste of time, designed only to get you to dload dc++, which is a project that he is a member of. Mod the parent (of the parent) down.
Occam's razor is the blind faith in the natural selection of least resistance and in universal oversimplification. -- EF
Yup. He's right... What a joke. Mod parent's parent down.
Common sense is not so common.
I click in to read this article and I see a banner ad at the top from ATI for a Radeon 9700.
Smae as above, nothing here, move along now.
Yeah, I hear a lot of complaining, but riddle me this: Is Id actually gonna lose money because this was leaked? Is there anyone who would go to all the trouble of downloading an ALPHA VERSION, and then not get the full version later?
Isn't it possible that all of the publicity might even help Id with free advertising?
I mean hell, they've even gotten a free slashdot story out of it. A million geeks seeing your upcoming game--that's advertising.
hahaha. browse at -1. that's where all the good shit is.
I get 150 fps in 1600x1200x32 with detail high on my Commodore VIC 20. Glad they also support older machines.
Actually, television is 60 fields per second, not frames per second.
The difference is it is 60 interlaced fields. When the video signal is comming from a game console, this usually means each field is simply doubled resulting in a true 30 flat frames per second. So, just to make your somewhat rude post more valid, a NTSC television will give you the end effect of a frame rate cap of 30 frames per second, which is fairly poor.
- Voxel
Modesty is one of life's greatest attributes
I was wondering when this was finally gunna show up on slashdot. .plan. Like A lot of people, I even forked over the money for a total system upgrade just so I'll be able to get decent framerates (Althon2000, Geforce4 Ti4400, 512mb ddr2700)
Doom 2 is probably my favorite game EVER in terms of hours spent enjoying it, and I've been looking forward to Doom 3 ever since John Carmack mentioned the idea in his
Anyway, of course I was really excited when people on efnet started mentioning an alpha being leaked, and I managed to get ahold of it that night. So I loaded it up, and played it for a few minutes.. and closed it and deleted it. Yes, it looks great. Very promising. But really, it's not worth the download. There are only 3 levels, and you can tell that even those aren't polished yet. From playing it, I learned that it's a beautiful game and awesome engine, and it's going to be fun as hell. But anyone can see that just by looking at the screenshots that have been around forever. This alpha is more of a spoiler than anything else. Instead of going out and trying to get your hands on it, you'd be better off to just wait for the real game to come out.
I understand the thrill of game play but why does everyone seem to except bloody, violent games with out question? Makes me feel like we are bunch of unenlightened idiots. I am not some extreme peace advocate just a normal person. I've been the first person on the scene of some major car accidents, Blood flowing out of the car, skin peeled back etc... Those images have never left me. I am not squeemish about it but it certainly is a sobering site that I would never want to relive in a game for pleasure. Sorry if I am preaching its just really lame in my opinion. Do something creative with your Mac.
When reading this article I noticed it had the ATI Radeon 9700 ad banner
i don't like style guides
Actually, it's available on most DC hubs right now. I won't tell you where I am now, but I can tell you that a whole bunch of people are trying to download it on the mentioned hub right now. Hop around, and search for "doom" with file size 364 MB or larger. You'll find it, guaranteed. I'm downloading it at 56 KB/s right now, and have 129 MB of it.
It's also on eDonkey/Overnet, so you can go to www.edonkey2000.com, www.emule-project.net, http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/mldonkey/ or www.overnet.com to download a client, and then http://www.sharereactor.com/release.php?id=2946 to add it to your download list. eDonkey/Overnet is usually slow as heck, though, so I recommend DC++.
I can imagine the atmosphere at iD headquarters near Dallas right now;
John - "Damn bastards, the ATI folk. They leaked the alpha."
Xian - "We've got to punish ATI somehow for this."
John - "I know, I'll cripple performance on ATI cards. I'll just insert a sleep() function call here and half the framerate when I detect an ATI card. That will teach them."
Xian - "Excellent."
Revolution = Evolution
ATI seems to be making a habit of this... In July 2000 they issued press releases a couple of days before MacWorld giving information on yet-to-be announced mac systems, and got themselves into an uncomfortable situation with Apple. See http://www.idg.net/idgns/2000/07/24/ATITakesBlameF orAppleLeak.shtml for a summary.
hmmm radeon ad on the same page as the doom 3 newspost... conspiracy?
Jon Bardin
I'm downloading it as I type this, even though I was extemely disappointed with Doom II. For some reason I have the feeling that this will be just like every single first person shooter game since Wolfenstein 3D... Bah. Unimaginative game.
I checked it out and it is easily a debug build. There debug symbols are intact as well as linking to OutputDebugString. Therefore, it is HIGHLY unoptimized, so don't even count on getting any decent FPS.
These are linked on some of the many different threads relating to this story, but for those of you in a rush and not wanting to look around.
:
/. - I am sure it must be reassuring for him and the id team to see how much people are wanting (and enjoying) this game but he must be pretty pissed about the whole affair!
Admittedly this will make the game look nowhere as amazing as it currently does, but these two tweaks (which you can enter on the console) worked wonders for me...
r_useStandardGL 1 - the default is set to '0' - using this toggle will disable the bump mapping.
r_shadows 0 - the default is set to '1' - using this toggle will disable the dynamic shadows which, whilst looking amazing, melt your computer.
Some other things worth noting that I have discovered... if you edit the 'runact.cfg' (which if you have downloaded this leaked copy, you will know you have to exec - and it takes about 5 minutes loading up textures and stuff) - if you comment out the bottom three of the top 4 'exec' statements to read like
exec activate_demo1
#exec activate_demo2
#exec activate_demo3
#exec activate_intro
That 'exec runact.cfg' takes a hella lot less time and the game seems to run as normal.
One last thing.. should we even be talking about this? I know that John Carmack reads
"Hey! Unless this is a nude love-in, get the hell off my property!!"
Source Of The Leak
Actually, they can start by not demanding that I put my $50+ CD in the drive every time I want to play the game.
"Please prove you are not a criminal, we think you probably are".
John- "One more thing..."
Xian- "Yes?"
John- "I've got missles."
Xian- "Oh really...."
John- "The aerospace tests are going
better than planned."
Xian- "Excellent! I'll get ATI's address."
Wow. That's pretty kickass.
Since Quake 1 I've always used the right mouse button as 'forward' since it was the most popular method at the time.. but nowadays people tend to use W as forwards, and right mouse as secondary weapon.
I'm guessing Doom 3 won't have secondary weapons, so the right mouse forward thing can come back.
Good, cuz I tried playing Quake 3 using W as forwards and I couldn't get it.
mogorific carpentry experiments
posting this story was a moral thing for slashdot to do, it's still the biggest news event in gaming for quite a while. Can't expect the press to not spread the news.
Badgers? Badgers! We don't need no stinkin' Badgers!
Must be just a coincidence, from what I've seen ATI seems to have upped their internet advertising alot recently. They have a huge obtrusive popup on gamedev.net, and of course there's that banner right up at the top of the page I'm viewing right now.
If I wasn't so trusty this would definitely smell like some marketing chicanery.
(OK I'm not that trusty, here's my conspiracy theory: ATI's next gen cards are out now but doom 3 isn't out yet. They leak the doom3 alpha to get high end consumers thinking about doom3 cards at a time when they still have the lead against NVidia. Throw in some 9700 ads all over the web to make sure people know where to get their high end cards.)
Nah, couldn't be.
Pavlov?
Reminds me of a dog...
"Oh drat these computers, they're so naughty and so complex, I could pinch them." --Marvin the Martian
That's funny, another poster mentioned the game was leaked to alt.binaries.games.worms...
cool - i'm trying to install it on my Atari 2600 but i keep breaking the fuc**ng CD trying to insert it into the cartridge slot...
wurd
Next time, at least leak the Linux version and only that. Bet that'd get the "most-people-converted-to-Linux-in-one-day" record?
Assorted stuff I do sometimes: Lemuria.org
I wonder if we'll ever see any of the guys at iD taking slashdot interviews again. After all, Taco just told several million of the most connected people on the planet to get it from servers that aren't even under US jurisdiction.
Maybe, before he leaked it, he patched the game so that it was artificially crippled to only run at 12 FPS so that it will spur demand for ridiculously fast video cards.
Hey, I can wear my tinfoil conspiracy hat once in a while, can't I?
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This happened to Quake 3 too, its rather disappointed especially because you realise its a bare bones tech demo and it will only spoil things for you.
Not that it's bad. One of the reasons I liked Quake1, was because the athmosphere that the palette created. Just a bit funny =)
Software should be free as in speech, but if we also get some free beer, all the better.
being linked on /. and drudge , newest form of DOS attack?
Drudgereport just linked to this article on /.
Good test for the new config....
Cake or Death? Cake Please!
I'm looking at these screen shots, and for the first time in years, I'm actually genuinely impressed at the advances they've made in their rendering. But at the same time, I'm thinking "sheesh, how could people play this game without getting genuinely ill?" Photorealistic, dismembered bodies, blood and gore spread everywhere...it's becoming so texturally realistic so as to seemingly only be missing smell and taste.
How realistic does slaughter, grotesque gore, and violence have to become before people finally realize how nasty what they're doing really is?
Previous to this time, I considered the concept of violent video games being to blame for real-world acts of attrocity quite ridiculous. But at what point do the video games become so realistic, and simultaneous -- as in the case of id's latest -- irresponsible in the areas of how they use it, that video games actually DO become a catalyst for violent behavior?
One could argue that video games can only become as literal as, say, a photorealistic film. And violent films aren't proved to sponsor violent behavior, so what's the problem? The problem is that in video games, you're actually performing the act of killing. Your finger is thinking less of being on a mouse, and more of being on a trigger. How much of a jump is it between photorealistic fantasy -- identical in everyway in terms of how it represents light, shadow, physics, etc -- to a literal physical reality which isn't seemingly any different to the person now holding the gun instead of the mouse.
No media can possibly be blamed as being the sole cause of any kind of violence. That's a fear-driven, whipping-boy conclusion of the inexperienced masses. On the other hand, when "reality" isn't necessarily physical anymore, where do you draw the line?
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"Cogito Eggo Sum: I think, therefore, waffle."
...is an example of how a link can be illegal.
Not that the MPAA was really right about their claims, but courts have decided more than once that providing a link to something unauthorized is illegal.
In this case, the code to the game was STOLEN. This isn't d3test. It's not shareware. It's iD's property. Property that ws intened to be viewed at a show, not played on every little asshole's machine.
Nuff said.
Huh?
best... line... evar:
.omg. i almost died.
my dad is watching me play, and i shoot one of the monsters with the shotgun... and dood looks dead... and my dad goes:
"SHOOT HIS ASS IN THE HEAD, AND IN THE CHEST!!! --- I BET HE HAS DUAL PROCESSORS!!!"
Well it does. :-)
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So, you can't find it to download, huh?
John Susek
Theres already sites out there that are being asked by activision to remove ***screenshots*** of the leaked alpha. Hey, we all kiss id's ass here. Doesn't bother me as long as activision prosecutes the person that leaked it, but no one else.
Really you expect anyone who's vagely interested in Doom3 isn't going to try it out? Yes, it's not an official demo like the Quake3 demo that I played for almost a year before the retail hit the stores. But it's pretty darned impressive (graphics, detail, and sounds), and well worth the download. From playing this alpha version, I've realized that my system is woefully inadequate to play this game smoothly (is anyone's?). Looks like I need to budget a complete new system within 1 year.
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Not providing a link and just out of curiosity I wanted to have a look at how wide-spread this leaked Doom already is.
Result: eMule found 156(!) sources for it on the 'net in less than 8 minutes.
Seems it's really leaked..
42. Easy. What is 32 + 8 + 2?
if any of you read anything about this game you would know it's not going to run properly on anything less than what it was running on at e3, which i think was a 2 or 3 gigahertz and 9700. i have a 750 and won't try anything with this game till it's released and I will then probably just buy a new system that meets the requirements. trying anything with my current system is futile.
This just in! Slashdot has made the Drudgereport! I wonder if the barrage of new traffic will be too much for the new servers to bear....
It's a shame game development can't follow the OSS development model at least partially. The games would get developed quicker. Issues like speed and size could be conquered quicker.Feedback would more accurate. Company would make money off the parts that people really want. The models (art) and story.
And as a bonus, no more "/." stories on why the games (and industry) suck.
Doom III will come with the ability to disable much of the stuff that makes it run so damn slow. This game is one of the first to really use dynamic shadows to their full extent; disabling them increases the framerate by 10-15 fps (yes, that much). A Radeon 9700 Pro on a decent system (512MB of DDR is basically a must) should be able to offer the game playably at maximum detail at 800x600 (>60fps) or (MAYBE) 1024x786. These prerelease versions aren't completely tuned.
A lot of people are complaning about the links.
First of all, NONE of the links contain the game itself, except the second site, whose links have been taken down, and I triple-checked before posting, I'm not stupid.
Nowhere does it say I've even downloaded the game, and the truth is I haven't, simply beacause I heard the shitty FPS.
There's nothing illegal about posting a link to a screenshot or cvar list, AFAIK, many big fan sites have done the same.
Now I enjoy FPS as much as the next guy. I was hooked on Doom I/II more than anyone else I knew at the time. And when I first looked at the screenshots of this game I was shocked at the quality of the rendering, how much more realistic the scenes were than other 3D FPS games I've seen. It looked like it would be a fantastic game. But then I saw a few other screenshots of guys getting blown away, with their intestines hanging out, the various bullet wounds and blood splatter on the wall, and I felt a little uncomfortable. Everyone wants to see their games look more realistic, but where do we draw the line? Do we want to see every bullet hole? Every organ? Fingers, partial heads, various limbs and appendagest all being blown off? There seems like there's a point where this begins to be unhealthy.
Now I'm not saying everyone playing this game will turn into serial killers, or anything like that. I'm not saying it's going to be the downfall of our generation. Blowing up monsters, aliens, various creatures, 'bad guys' etc has been a big part of my life, and those games have all been fun without needing highly detailed portions of their remains scattered around the level.
I guess my question is, are other people turned off by more realistic, graphic gore? Will FPS games quest for more realistic games turn to be their downfall, or will they start to modify them so, although the texture & enemies look more realistic, the actual shooting will be less intense? Or will they include an option where the user can choose to play ultra-graphic violent mode, or a more toned down version appropriate for younger players?
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Funny, isn't it?
/. posters are all over MS.
/. posts are filled with rage.
/.er's favourite person?), and rather than talking about how bad this illegal action was everybody is giving instructions on how to download it!
/. reader to be in the illegal warez scene, but rambus is evil for breaking the law...
:(
Microsoft does something illegal or questionable, that any other business would do (after all those running a public corporation have 1 job, make as much profit as possible-its up to the government to install "morals" about monopolies or environmental damage) and
A company violates the GPL or comes up with an "Open Source" license that isn't and again
Somebody steals a video from id, what should be the #1 company to geeks (John Carmack's use of OpenGL is the only reason it is a viable platform on Windows and even exists on Mac, the guy donated his own time to writing Matrox OpenGL drivers, released code to his older games under the GPL, and finally is spending millions of his own money to build a rocket to go into space! How can he not be every
I guess its ok for a
I'm disappointed in the community's reaction
Nice work. Drudge Report.
I managed to get 130 FPS on a GForce 4 TI 4600. Looks like a good game. Stiff competition for UT2k3...
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:-/ i like that when i click the links pointed out as "SCREENSHOTS and other information", there are no screenshots what so ever on any of the 4 links posted.
;) thanks anyway, guess i'll search google for the screenshots now.
if anyone would possible know where i could download it to try it out, that would be a godsend
Refering to the earlier windows longhorn post.
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No, this was not leaked on purpose.
Yes, we are upset about it, and it will have some impact on how we deal with some companies in the future, but nothing drastic is going to change in terms of what support is going to be available.
Making any judgements from a snapshot intended for a non-interactive demo is ill advised.
John Carmack
I'm particularly aware of this because the PS2 game I'm working on tends to run at 30 fps in the game shell, but occasionally hits 60.
If your game engine is fill-rate bound and running at a solid 40 to 50 fps, and it's being displayed on an interlaced display (such as a standard television set), you can go 60 fps real easy: just render the odd scanlines in odd frames and the even scanlines in even frames. That's what Tobal No. 1 (PSX virtua fighter clone) and Ehrgeiz (Tobal with textures) do. But it still won't help if your engine is T&L bound.
Will I retire or break 10K?
a NTSC television will give you the end effect of a frame rate cap of 30 frames per second
Not if you play to the interlacing, as I mentioned in my other comment.
Will I retire or break 10K?
This is the MOST insightful post in the story alone.
More people should be like the above guy. Kudos.
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Games are made so people buy them and play them. People find a free copy of an unreleased, highly anticipated, much hyped game. You expect people to not download it out of respect? You think people, after playing those 3 levels in the leaked alpha, aren't going to go out and buy the game?
I think you're the one that needs to get a grip.
Karma: Dyn-o-mite!(mostly affected by Jimmy Walker reading your comments)
look at his posting history. it's the guy.
Who is this Anonymous Coward character, how does he post so much, and why is he always such a whore?
Well...this seems an appropriate place to ask about framerate...
I Haven't downloaded the alpha, and I really don't intend to unless ID comes out and says "okay, guys- might as well give it a shot...",(I'll wait for the official demo and the release party) but I AM curious as to whether or not SMP is enabled (and effective) in the game...Multithread an app, and it can get so damn smooth.
Q3's smp support really didn't seem to help much, and actually seemed to lock up my computer a bit harder when it would lock--- w/o smp, I could recover gracefully---
So...any dual-cpu warex kiddies out there try it yet?
Sig currently under construction. Mind the gap....
If you said that there hasn't been much innovation since Half-Life, I'd whole-heartedly agree with you. But if you're actually saying to me, with a straight face, that there hasn't been much innovation since Doom, I'd have to conclude that you really don't actually play videogames. There are a lot of those types on Slashdot lately, I've noticed. They like to blab about their opinions about video games, but they don't actually even play them.
OK you anonymous fucking shithead... If the same old game can't be played over and over again and STILL be enjoyable, then tell me exactly what game you think r0xorz? You can't can you? That's because FPS games are pure enjoyment. They keep you going for hours. The only thing they DO need, is a little change of scenery every once in a while. If they can make the scenery more realistic, that's even cooler. Don't you ever get that feeling after playing an FPS for hours and then stopping, that you just got back home from being out somewhere? That's what gaming is all about... more real than real... Who the fuck cares about puzzles? The only other game that has ever given me that same feeling is something like Myst, Riven or Exile. So blow it out your canker infested asshole!!!!
First off, I'd like to say being a student on a limited budget I buy very few games. My collection of modern games includes Starcraft, Quake 2, Red Alert 2, Quake 3 and Warcraft 3 and recently added Need For Speed Hot Pursuit 2. I still play all these games actively. Before I purchased any of these games, I download an illegal warez copy and examined the game inside and out. If I wasn't bored within two weeks, I purchased the game. This leaked release, which I have downloaded and played, has ensured id at least one buyer. Being an avid Quake fan (Unreal sucks) I know I will play this game for hours upon hours. I am extremely excited for the final product, I will fight tooth and nail for a copy on the release date.
A movie about videogames turning deadly?
WTF?
www.daemon-tools.com
:)
It's not exactly official, but it's a very useful tool I use to ensure that I don't have to worry about destroying my CDs.
It's been a long time.
Or perhaps interested in these brilliant gems of wit and wisdom?:
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Shut up
Quiet tards
Welcome to the world of English, new speaker!
But seriously, have you seen the size of the X-Box? You can drive that thing around town if you put wheels on it. Seriously. Cart your PC around. You'll be happier. Vroom!
BUTT?
Eat my fuck you little bukkake slurping faggot. First Post trolls r0x0rz over all other trolls. The only people whodon't like them are f4g0rtz.
fuck off looser.
Making any judgements from a snapshot intended for a non-interactive demo is ill advised.
So we can still keep buying all that HYPE about it and keep believing that it's somehow revolutionary, and not a cheesy Resident Evil / Half-Life ripoff?
And keep believing that all those pixel shaders and stencil shadows actually make anything besides the models look better, and that running at 20fps on a brand new machine is actually worth using all the poorly designed new graphics features?
Right...
this guy is pretending to be john carmac but he's not...
the real one is user #101025:
http://slashdot.org/~John%20Carmack/
I don't know about id, but I generally thought "Alpha" meant a game was complete (all levels, full frame rate) and just had a few bugs to fix and the incorrect legals text (publishers are physically incapable of supplying the correct legals text until the game is at least in beta), possibly had some tricky networking bugs and possibly too much memory usage... this release sounds less complete that that (fortunately).
Duh! We kindda figured...
don't bother with him.. he's french !
Don't you ever get that feeling after playing an FPS for hours and then stopping, that you just got back home from being out somewhere?
You seriously need to get out more if you think that.
You were on a trip, alright.
w0rd 2 ya m0ther u ignant f00li0!
This is some funny s.
If the CIA were in charge of this the source code would be posted on telephone poles by now, with a "Have you seen me?" headline.
1. ATI leaks Doom 3 demo
2. ATI currently has fastest video card, that demo was demo'd on. Game runs ass-slow on your GF2 MX.
3. You buy a Radeon
4. Profit! (for ATI, not you)
Sounds like a good business decision for ATI, possibly at the cost of their relationship with ID.
Maybe ID will get pissed off and take their revenge by optimizing for nVidia cards in the final release...
Synergy is your friend
I can't believe I just clicked a headline on the drudge report and ended up at a slashdot. Don't know if I'm horrified or glad.
Look's like watching Final Fantasy!!!!
Without the DVD....
Wise men speak because they have something to say, Fools because they have to say something!!!!
Well, looks as if ATI screwed id over, and now i have to get an nVIDIA card to get more than 3 fps.
By the way, great game carmack, incredible work.
Seems like someone has made a little patch to change the values from resource-eating test mode to a playable mode...
Get it at ShareReactor via eDonkey.
At least it could help you tune the thing ab bit. :)
Any sufficiently advanced intelligence is indistinguishable from stupidity.
Well, aside from saying 'Hi!', I'd also like to say that from what I've seen of the alpha (before the poor guy's computer crashed and burned), I already know I'm gonna need a HUGE ASS graphics card next year. Now, can we expect any OTHER games that look this good?
There are three kinds of people in this world, those who can count, and those who can't.
But I get all the FPS I want on Sim Park.
I remember halo (remember that lie) I remember waiting two years to see a lie. We were promised lots of things in halo 10 000 km of level free gaming etc. After I finished halo in 6 hours, I realized that I got ripped "stealing a game is not unethical" lying to your clients is, I will never get a game again without trying it out first. the coin has two sides. if one side is rotten then both are. peace man
I don't know I got it off the newsgroups and I have to say just having this little tid-bit made me want the game that much more. I have a GeForce TI 4600 and it ran it halfway decent...along with the edited .cfg patch that the newsgroup posted...The game rocks....plus just the amount of detail in the graphics and sound...need I say Trent is god. Once that monster smashed through the wall I almost shit myself...its amazing..the rendering is great...and Trents sound design sets the mood...maybe its just me but I think it'll be the game of the year easy...along with setting a new standard.
I don't buy hardware to play one damn game. And anyone who does either has too much money, or not enough life. Flame away.
Spread the RC luvin'
Most programmers will never own the rights to their code...
But rather the company or corporation they work for...
Only the lucky few... *sighs*
Don't be too hard on them....they're canadian ;)
anyway, hope the whole thing doesn't get to out of hand. Many of the comments here are over the top with the Nvidia vs ATI smell in them. I mean, without ATI, nvidia cards would cost twice as much, and vise verser.
And from what i've heard about the leak, it's pretty dodgy.
The last Beta I tried was Warcraft III which ran so dog-slow I decided that I probably wouldn't ever be interested in purchasing it, since I'd just sunk $700 into my computer and wasn't prepared to do it again just yet. As it turns out, of course, it runs perfectly well on my system now that I'm running the official release.
But I'd sooner not be turned off a game before I can see it at its full potential. My opinion, and I'm sticking to it. :)
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NTSC refreshes at 30 Hz... INTERLACED.
Not sure, it might be a 60 Hz update rate, but each update is only have the screen.
A 60Hz non-interlaced monitor is at LEAST twice as good as NTSC refresh-wise.
Interlacing is ugly, which is why software such as DScaler (http://deinterlace.sourceforge.net/ I believe) exists.
Unrelated note: DScaler rocks. It does with your TV tuner card things that home theater enthusiasts used to buy thousands of dollars worth of hardware to do.
retrorocket.o not found, launch anyway?
You know, it's a real shame that if the word is true and ATI did leak the Alpha, it doesn't say a lot for a company trying so hard to be #1... Personally, I don't blame the entire company, yet the man who is responsible for the actual leak. ATI is a reputable company with many strengths and like everyone else, many weaknesses... I will stay true to ATI regardless and lend my sympathies for John :0) It's misfortunate that this extremely buggy, alpha was leaked and has fallen into the hans of ppl who it was not intended...
I just can't wait until the actual release is out which HAS optimizations... lol... I don't have much to say about the alpha.
Anyways, thats just my opinion.
//Strictly hardcore baby...
1600XP, Ti4600 OC'd, 386DDR, 7200rpm drive.. runs "ok" . Although, coding is not there and i can't wait for the final man! Keep it up.
All i can say is -- "UT What??"
i.d. is the only software company i support.. everything els is under the GPL
HEHE
i have the alpha and i get around 25 fps with radeon 8500 64 meg...
Now, ATI cards are powerful, but if I was a developer, I would look at a few things:
1) Past history of bad drivers
2) Leaks - Doom III and others
I would not use ATI stuff at all if I was a game developer, due to this crap. The driver issue has been addressed for the most part, but I would stick with nVidia. Of course, I am just a student of computer science, so what do I know?
Anyone tried to view the "doomkey" file yet? I think it's apparent enough ID didn't want this one out the door.....:) "// Do not give t// Do not give this file to ANYONE. // id Software and Activision will NOT ask you to send this file to them."
Slashdot would most likely be liable if ordered to remove the links and subsequently failed to comply.
Otherwise, the views expressed by our users do not necessarily represent the yada yada yada blah blah blah...
Think about this. When the game is demo'd, Radeon has the best product available. id latches on to get the most viable market card showing their product. Then "leaks" the demo (remaining hush hush about the whole thing) and uses that as an excuse to compromise their ATI relationship, effectively "jumping ship" and latching on to nVidia and their soon to be released NV30. Nvidia has always put out exceptional cards and this is the perfect way for id to ride the wave of economic prosperity through utilization of the best rendering hardware publicly available. Could be a load of garbage, but then maybe not! Food for thought
The leak doesnt even have complete levels :)
only bits o them for show
Scripting was at an early stage and no one should judge the final by this early alpha.
With pure Nv20 settings i get a stable 20 to 30fps
high settings on a p4 2ghz geforce3/ using standard opengl i get a lot higher around 40 to 50fps really slow u might say but no.Its far more a movie like experience and u dont run about a 80kmph like in quake3.
I for one will definetly be buying this, it hasnt put me off but only wet my appetite more.I was just glad to know that even with this early alpha
all i gotta replace in my machine is my old geforce3.Roll on geforce5
Let me tell you the details about my computer
AMD Palomino 1800+, Geforce 3 Ti 200, 256 DDR RAM
It ran choppy most of the time but I was impressed by the atmosphere the game displayed. I praise whoever did the sounds, I haven't heard sounds so clean and releastic from the pistol shooting and the echo that tuned ears can define since.... Well, actually this make beats any other game to sounds. But enough of the sound, Graphics are intense in my computer I was able to make it full screen, I heard some had problems doing that. Staying still had a frame rate of 30 fps. Average frame rate for my computer is 21. When I encounter action or shooting my computer drops to around 7-15 not all the time, but the first time I load the map. Once I die and replay it since the textures have been loaded somewhat its a bit smoother. I have to say that this game looks and is so very good at its current status that when the final version comes out that shall be the king of all First Person shooters (even bigger than its grandfather), hopefully by then everyone will have computers around the gigahertz and a Radeon 9700 pro and above. A new video card from nvidia the NV30 or something like that is may run the game very smooth. I conclude that even though this alpha not only very glitchy which I really understand since we are not suppose to have it in our possession has intrigue me to keep playing fps even though UT2003 is as bad as renegade which I will not go into that garbage any further.
Gore is not my thing either
The real thing isnt due for release for a long time. Odds are that you could get a nice new R400 or NV40 along with your retail gold Doom 3
Viral software licensing is not freedom, it is in fact GNU/Socialism.
I got the Alpha and when the lvl starts to load it crashes, now i heard there is something i have to do to get it to work? is this true or am i just missin sumthin, any help is appreciated
I produce music for a living, but I'll often give
it out before mastering and final edits to get
some ideas as to what needs to be brought up, what
is or isn't wrong with it, etc...
I wouldn't be pissed if someone "leaked" a loop
of a track I was working on. If it got the kind
of positive feedback the D3Aplha was getting, I'd
be jumping for joy. We all know the finished is
going to rock, and it won't damped anyone's
enthusiasm I'm quite sure...
So chill out.
I know. Unless htere is a cookie monster somewhere between us tat muches the amil. :) :)
amil/mail
muches/munches tat/that htere/there
heheh
problems?
* Myxie needs an ircii addon that pipes teh command line through ispell
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