advertisers realized that the banner ad wasn't worth as much as what they were paying for it.
What if banner ads couldn't record clicks? Seems to me that the biggest reason the market for banners fell apart is that companies suddenly had real numbers of how many people clicked. If it weren't for this, they'd be no different than radio, TV, or newspaper/magazine ads, where the advertiser has no idea how many people actually pay attention to the ad.
And the other problem is that the stats generated by banner ads aren't really that good. If I see a banner ad for a product I've already bought, I'm not going to click. If I see a banner ad from the same company on ten different web sites, I'm not going to click on all of them. And sometimes banners may be for products that I'm not in the market for at the moment, but the name has stuck with me, and I'll check them out when I am in the market. In advertising, there's is some difficult -to-measure worth in just having your name in front of people, whether they click through or not.
Ok...but we're still talking about shuffling numbers by accountants. If a company is having serious cash flow problems, this isn't a pile of money sitting there that they can tap into. So while mandatory vacation can make the books look better, it really can't do anything about a cash shortage.
Oh, and in some states, the employer isn't bound to pay you accrued vacation upon your leaving, so in those place unused vacation isn't a liability anyway.
But they get paid out out of a pot of money that the company had already "spent", rather than out of new spending
Ok...someone needs to explain this to me. If you're having cash flow problems, how that money is entered in the books doesn't change anything...you still have to spew out the cash for salary and benefits.
And the fact that the opposition to the license plates seems to love citing the current Yucca Mountain plan is annoying to me.
Well, opposition or not, I think most people think it's just pretty damn ironic for the state to be issuing nuke plates to commemorate all the nuclear tests there but be fighting tooth and nail to keep Yucca Mountain from being finished.
Guess what folks, Yucca Mountain can't be used for much else. The Nevada test site is hot enough that you have to wear radiation badges to even visit the place, and there's no waste there yet.
Yes! That's exactly what came to mind when I read this. Of course, I just watched it a week ago, so it's pretty fresh in my mind.
As for the Mini Coopers, don't forget the sewers. Legend has it that during practice runs, one of the drivers managed to do a complete barrel roll, but they were never ever to do it with the cameras running.
Car people have to watch this movie, although the destruction of the Mini's, a couple of E-Types, and an Aston Martin are a bit painful to watch...
SBC can be a royal PITA as well. Honestly, all their customer service reps seem to do a pretty good job, but their systems are really a mess. I don't know how many calls it took to get to the right people when I needed to get a frame relay circuit disconnected. They get all the info from me. A guy calls me later and leaves me voice mail (this is important).
I call the guy back, and he wants to confirm all the information. He wants to make doubly sure since SBC had just renumbered all their frame relay circuits.
A couple of days later, I get a call from the tech contractor for a bank somewhere who's frame got disconnected, and when they called about it, my name and number was on the disconnect order!
Since the SBC guy had left me a message, I was able to point this person directly to him to get things worked out.
Well, if the St. Louis Cardinals keep trying to put the squeeze on for a new stadium, that won't be a problem.
I think the STL County Police have enough to worry about without laws like this. It took over 10 minutes for them to arrive after a 911 call the other night, in what could have been a life-threatening situation.
Actually, it the previous ruling was a federal court; the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit. A unanimous panel for that court extended First Amendment protection to video games. The city of Indianapolis appealed that to the Supreme Court, but they refused to hear it, which makes that Appeals Court ruling stand.
The fact that I live in St. Louis County, and they decided to defend this law even after the Indianapolis law was struck down makes is really disturbing, since it's my tax dollars at work.
There are many, many (often times superior) alternatives to Nike.
You left out New Balance. They're privately owned, so they don't have to bow down to Wall Street. They don't hire star atheletes to promote their products. They make damn good shoes, actually make them in widths, and use the money they save not paying Michael Jordan to keep their manufacturing in the US, with well paid workers.
Since the Supreme Court refused to hear Indianapolis's appeal on their video game law, where a lower court said that video games did fall under the First Amendment, how does Judge Limbaugh think he has a leg to stand on?
Well, there is already a precedent for this sort of thing. There is a special federal tax on guns, ammunition, and archery equipment that is earmarked for wildlife and habitat projects, to the tune of over $200 million a year. This doesn't include the cost of licenses, stamps, etc. which pump about $950 million a year into the system.
These taxes cost sportsmen money, but help ensure that habitat will exist for their game of choice, so they strongly supported them. Not only do these taxes ensure that hunters will have game available, but the overall habitat improvements benefit non-hunting nature lovers as well.
Well, the good news is that DGM is not going away. They're moving the message boards and such to another site, and are moving on.
I don't think Fripp is in danger of going to the poorhouse...it's just that they decided they couldn't continue to subsidize the operations of DGM.
But it's still unfortunate. A major label can afford to promote the hell out of crappy bands until they've made them popular. (Think Korn or Limp Bizkit....PBS's Frontline did a great episode about the marketing of Limp Bizkit.) And if they don't catch on, they drop them and go on, sucking in the cash from the popular bands. But an enterprise like DGM signs artists based on the fact that they're talented musicians who should be heard. Dropping them isn't an option.
...off to the DGM site to pick up the new John Paul Jones disc....
We need to work hard to educate people how the artists they love are getting screwed by the labels. Robert Fripp does a wonderful job of exposing the horrors of the recording industry, and went so far as to create his own label for himself and other artists to publish under.
Read his description of an ethical company, and an unethical company, and see where the normal industry company fits:
Unfortunately, Robert has taken down the DGM mission statment, which was a scathing look at standard music industry practices.
Also, DGM is going through some rough patches of economic reality. Not playing the unethical record industry games means that the business isn't always a winning proposition. See his diary, and look at the entry for the 6th of April.
Hell, we don't even do a instant download. The customer fills out the form with the preliminary info, then sales gets more details as necessary. We've got a complex product, and we want to make sure the people looking at it have the necessary skills to make it work. If they can't get it working, they're sure not going to buy it.
The important part here is that evaluators get full technical support. In fact, the bulk of our tech support goes to evals, since they're just getting their feet wet with the software. So we help them as needed to get it running properly. This also makes the potential customer realize how good our support is, which always makes them feel more comfortable about buying. So fill-out-the-form-and-download-the-software doesn't fit well with this.
Further, it's worth mentioning that this is enterprise level software. Most of the other posts on this topic seem to be viewing this subject from the standpoint of low cost, end-user desktop applications.
Yeah, we see fake info in the form on our web site, usually from people who think they'll be able to download the trial after filling out the form. Most of these people probably aren't qualified to implement the product anyway, and/or don't have the money to buy it. Any company looking at it needs to have the resources in place to implement the project, and isn't going to be too worried about filling out the form.
It appears that Freund only casually mentioned the potential for extracting this hydrogen for energy, but the Vancouver Sun reporter decided to grab onto that for the headline value...
There are ethanol cars. They're all over the roads. And we're being forced by the government to buy gasoline that's 10% ethanol. Do you know why? It's because the farm states have gotten subsidies to produce the stuff and help out the poor farmer. Ethanol is expensive to make, and yields less energy per gallon than gasoline.
And if you look at most newer Fords, you'll see an extra badge on the car that signifies a flexible fuel vehicle, which can take up to a 15% ethanol concentration.
Bullshit. The car companies are working on hydrogen powered cars, both with fuel cell technology and internal combustion engines. BMW is pursuing the latter approach.
And you just think the hydrogen will jump out of the ground when we tell it to? IF there are truly large pockets of free hydrogen in geologic traps, it has to be gotten by drilling. Who has the equipment, the experience, the distribution networks, and most of all, the money to drill? The oil companies. They'll be the only ones able to exploit the resource.
The article was very light on on details, but indicated that any such reserves would be very deep. And if it requires drilling through granite, you'll be wearing out cutting bits quickly. To drill and complete one of these wells will easily run into the multi-millions of dollars.
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advertisers realized that the banner ad wasn't worth as much as what they were paying for it.
What if banner ads couldn't record clicks? Seems to me that the biggest reason the market for banners fell apart is that companies suddenly had real numbers of how many people clicked. If it weren't for this, they'd be no different than radio, TV, or newspaper/magazine ads, where the advertiser has no idea how many people actually pay attention to the ad.
And the other problem is that the stats generated by banner ads aren't really that good. If I see a banner ad for a product I've already bought, I'm not going to click. If I see a banner ad from the same company on ten different web sites, I'm not going to click on all of them. And sometimes banners may be for products that I'm not in the market for at the moment, but the name has stuck with me, and I'll check them out when I am in the market. In advertising, there's is some difficult -to-measure worth in just having your name in front of people, whether they click through or not.
Ok...but we're still talking about shuffling numbers by accountants. If a company is having serious cash flow problems, this isn't a pile of money sitting there that they can tap into. So while mandatory vacation can make the books look better, it really can't do anything about a cash shortage.
Oh, and in some states, the employer isn't bound to pay you accrued vacation upon your leaving, so in those place unused vacation isn't a liability anyway.
But they get paid out out of a pot of money that the company had already "spent", rather than out of new spending
Ok...someone needs to explain this to me. If you're having cash flow problems, how that money is entered in the books doesn't change anything...you still have to spew out the cash for salary and benefits.
And the fact that the opposition to the license plates seems to love citing the current Yucca Mountain plan is annoying to me.
Well, opposition or not, I think most people think it's just pretty damn ironic for the state to be issuing nuke plates to commemorate all the nuclear tests there but be fighting tooth and nail to keep Yucca Mountain from being finished.
Guess what folks, Yucca Mountain can't be used for much else. The Nevada test site is hot enough that you have to wear radiation badges to even visit the place, and there's no waste there yet.
Yes! That's exactly what came to mind when I read this. Of course, I just watched it a week ago, so it's pretty fresh in my mind.
As for the Mini Coopers, don't forget the sewers. Legend has it that during practice runs, one of the drivers managed to do a complete barrel roll, but they were never ever to do it with the cameras running.
Car people have to watch this movie, although the destruction of the Mini's, a couple of E-Types, and an Aston Martin are a bit painful to watch...
SBC can be a royal PITA as well. Honestly, all their customer service reps seem to do a pretty good job, but their systems are really a mess. I don't know how many calls it took to get to the right people when I needed to get a frame relay circuit disconnected. They get all the info from me. A guy calls me later and leaves me voice mail (this is important).
I call the guy back, and he wants to confirm all the information. He wants to make doubly sure since SBC had just renumbered all their frame relay circuits.
A couple of days later, I get a call from the tech contractor for a bank somewhere who's frame got disconnected, and when they called about it, my name and number was on the disconnect order!
Since the SBC guy had left me a message, I was able to point this person directly to him to get things worked out.
Sorry, wrong relative! This judge is the uncle of Rush. His brother is a judge on the Missouri Supreme Court.
the county needs to have it's budget cut
Well, if the St. Louis Cardinals keep trying to put the squeeze on for a new stadium, that won't be a problem.
I think the STL County Police have enough to worry about without laws like this. It took over 10 minutes for them to arrive after a 911 call the other night, in what could have been a life-threatening situation.
Actually, it the previous ruling was a federal court; the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit. A unanimous panel for that court extended First Amendment protection to video games. The city of Indianapolis appealed that to the Supreme Court, but they refused to hear it, which makes that Appeals Court ruling stand.
The fact that I live in St. Louis County, and they decided to defend this law even after the Indianapolis law was struck down makes is really disturbing, since it's my tax dollars at work.
Not exactly. It's Rush's uncle....
He's about the only male in the family to not be an attorney or judge. He instead became a DJ and sports announcer.
There are many, many (often times superior) alternatives to Nike.
You left out New Balance. They're privately owned, so they don't have to bow down to Wall Street. They don't hire star atheletes to promote their products. They make damn good shoes, actually make them in widths, and use the money they save not paying Michael Jordan to keep their manufacturing in the US, with well paid workers.
Since the Supreme Court refused to hear Indianapolis's appeal on their video game law, where a lower court said that video games did fall under the First Amendment, how does Judge Limbaugh think he has a leg to stand on?
Well, there is already a precedent for this sort of thing. There is a special federal tax on guns, ammunition, and archery equipment that is earmarked for wildlife and habitat projects, to the tune of over $200 million a year. This doesn't include the cost of licenses, stamps, etc. which pump about $950 million a year into the system.
These taxes cost sportsmen money, but help ensure that habitat will exist for their game of choice, so they strongly supported them. Not only do these taxes ensure that hunters will have game available, but the overall habitat improvements benefit non-hunting nature lovers as well.
Ok...it's there now. When I checked yesterday after reading this story, they only had the single ones listed.
Ok...the link to Creative has them for $15 each, but where are the 2 for $20 deals at?
You're actually using security as part of your argument here? Excuse me while I tap into your analog phone line....
Well, the good news is that DGM is not going away. They're moving the message boards and such to another site, and are moving on.
I don't think Fripp is in danger of going to the poorhouse...it's just that they decided they couldn't continue to subsidize the operations of DGM.
But it's still unfortunate. A major label can afford to promote the hell out of crappy bands until they've made them popular. (Think Korn or Limp Bizkit....PBS's Frontline did a great episode about the marketing of Limp Bizkit.) And if they don't catch on, they drop them and go on, sucking in the cash from the popular bands. But an enterprise like DGM signs artists based on the fact that they're talented musicians who should be heard. Dropping them isn't an option.
...off to the DGM site to pick up the new John Paul Jones disc....
We need to work hard to educate people how the artists they love are getting screwed by the labels. Robert Fripp does a wonderful job of exposing the horrors of the recording industry, and went so far as to create his own label for himself and other artists to publish under.
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Read his description of an ethical company, and an unethical company, and see where the normal industry company fits:
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Unfortunately, Robert has taken down the DGM mission statment, which was a scathing look at standard music industry practices.
Also, DGM is going through some rough patches of economic reality. Not playing the unethical record industry games means that the business isn't always a winning proposition. See his diary, and look at the entry for the 6th of April.
Not to mention the fact that the promos for the show for the last week have said that someone was going to die.....
If he didn't realize that the world does not revolve around east-coast time, he was stupid.
And it doesn't revolve around the west coast either, so quit bitching about it.
Hell, we don't even do a instant download. The customer fills out the form with the preliminary info, then sales gets more details as necessary. We've got a complex product, and we want to make sure the people looking at it have the necessary skills to make it work. If they can't get it working, they're sure not going to buy it.
The important part here is that evaluators get full technical support. In fact, the bulk of our tech support goes to evals, since they're just getting their feet wet with the software. So we help them as needed to get it running properly. This also makes the potential customer realize how good our support is, which always makes them feel more comfortable about buying. So fill-out-the-form-and-download-the-software doesn't fit well with this.
Further, it's worth mentioning that this is enterprise level software. Most of the other posts on this topic seem to be viewing this subject from the standpoint of low cost, end-user desktop applications.
Yeah, we see fake info in the form on our web site, usually from people who think they'll be able to download the trial after filling out the form. Most of these people probably aren't qualified to implement the product anyway, and/or don't have the money to buy it. Any company looking at it needs to have the resources in place to implement the project, and isn't going to be too worried about filling out the form.
Here's the original release from NASA, which goes into some of the science behind this:
HYDROGEN-FED BACTERIA MAY EXIST BEYOND EARTH
It appears that Freund only casually mentioned the potential for extracting this hydrogen for energy, but the Vancouver Sun reporter decided to grab onto that for the headline value...
There are ethanol cars. They're all over the roads. And we're being forced by the government to buy gasoline that's 10% ethanol. Do you know why? It's because the farm states have gotten subsidies to produce the stuff and help out the poor farmer. Ethanol is expensive to make, and yields less energy per gallon than gasoline.
And if you look at most newer Fords, you'll see an extra badge on the car that signifies a flexible fuel vehicle, which can take up to a 15% ethanol concentration.
the car companies will scream no way
Bullshit. The car companies are working on hydrogen powered cars, both with fuel cell technology and internal combustion engines. BMW is pursuing the latter approach.
if only the oil companies would allow it...
And you just think the hydrogen will jump out of the ground when we tell it to? IF there are truly large pockets of free hydrogen in geologic traps, it has to be gotten by drilling. Who has the equipment, the experience, the distribution networks, and most of all, the money to drill? The oil companies. They'll be the only ones able to exploit the resource.
The article was very light on on details, but indicated that any such reserves would be very deep. And if it requires drilling through granite, you'll be wearing out cutting bits quickly. To drill and complete one of these wells will easily run into the multi-millions of dollars.