but a scriptkiddie does not know any of that, they do not know that so many people work so hard to fix it, they just know that they get the name of thier virus in the paper, past that they have no clue what happens..they have no intent to harm anything other than a computer, they need to be taughtabout what happens, then they will be awsome at security as most of them have a knack for it even if they only write lame scripts to start with...alot of security pros went through a script kiddie phase when they were younger
and btw, i am not yet in collage, i am a junior in high school and i know 11 programming langs, can use any of the 3d modalers i have seen, can use photoshop and psp, and am developing a quality video game with a few other people, once we sell the game we will all buy the software we sed to make it, because now we don't have the $, then we will.
dumbass this is what i am talking about, if you cannot get a job because of lack of skills then you need the programs to develop those skills, and it is not stealing, it is coping, if you do not take somthing of someone else's then you are not harming them, if you wern't going to buy it in the first place and you end up buying it because you liked it after using it for a few years and finally making enough money to buy it then you only helped the company, the only case it is wrong to pirate software is when you delete the original copy or steal actual data storage devices to get it, or if you were going to buy it and don't because u have it free..otherwise it is ok, and your analagies are flawed, you are talking about stealing something, i am talking about copying it, there is a big difference..one way you take it from someone to use it, the other you just copy it and it does not effect the other person..they can only make money by doing this because if you like the product and have any morals whatsoever then you end up buying it when you can.
lol...ever heard of a start-up script...if you can write a batch file(basicly if u know how 2 use dos), then you can send the patch to all the comps, and then send a batch file that you set once as a service at startup, the batch runs the patch, if there is no patch then just make the script close, if you cannot do this then you are obviously a moron who got his way paid through collage and you should be irradiated so you do not infect the rest of the gene-pool
i never install micro$oft updates...my theory is that they fix the bug, but add a new one so that they can fix it later and look like thier doing something, i meen lets face it, noone's code is that buggy..i figure keep the ancient bug on there that no scriptkiddie has ever heard of and let the new ones stay away from me.
why...the people who would use this to do bad shit are too moronic to figure this kind of thing out, they are the kind of people that copy and paste html from websites at random points and wonder y it dosn't look like they imagined, they are the 10 year old script kiddies that think they are tough shit, it would take them a month to figure it out if there were tech. details here, not that it really matters since this isn't a real hole anyway, if a user says open file from current location or says save file to disk and then opens it, they deserve to be infected, let the end lusers suffer...
if you have a windows comp then go into start-->find-->files or folders, then type in: "*.mpg *.mpeg *.avi", i have never downloaded any mpegs or avi's onto this comp, and i came up with 2416 just that different programs use, these are usually around 5 or 6kb, not hard to get 5k of them...
collage kids cannot afford these programs, and when they actualy make enough cash off of thier work they do buy them, until then they are doing no harm because they couldn't have bought the programs either way, this way they do more good than harm just because if they grew up on free stuff then they would not know how to use the pro stuff, if even less people end up using the pro stuff it just goes up in cost to make up for it, which just makes less people use it, and eventually there are so few people using it that the program, even though the most advanced and best, becomes obsolete because noone understands it, and you cannot use the learning edition of any software with the exception of maybee a cad program to do anything, take for example(even though every1 hates the maker) vb learning edition, it restricts access to all of the best functions..and things like winsock, if you can't learn on the full product then when you get into the real world you are usless, arresting people using warez that can't afford to buy it only hurts the econemy, and the companies that make the software who spend time defending it, arresting these people only does harm to our econemy, not good.
i slept through the last leonids to, at about 1am i fell asleep thinking foolishly i would lay down for a few minutes after staying up programming the night b4..lol
if you want to stop it at the source stop hyping it up, punish the kids(not too harshly because most WILL become security pros given about 10 years) and do not let the media say shit about it, other than places like/.(which i doubt any script kiddies could read) they are just making script-kiddies get off on seeing thier shit happen, then they brag to people about it online and off, and then those people tell people..and they just end up recruiting more script-kiddies..stop it where it starts, tell the kids they wrote a lame virus that barly did any harm and let it rest, give them a small sentance and let them find out about the real damage a few years later when they get a job.
that dosn't stop the problem, when i was a little kid i used to be a script kiddie, but now i am proficient in 11 languages, a lot of good programmers and security pros used to be script kiddies, if you cut them off not only will more take thier place because the other ones had such a big deal made out of them, but also you will be making a few years where there will be less-equiped coders and security guys to defend computers..
what if the only job a person could get was on a micro$hit network, and the person cannot change it because it is thier boss's idea since thier boss uses it at home and is too moronic to learn something now..is it still the IT guy's fault then? - because that is the situation most IT people are in, with the exception of the ones that bought thier way through collage and just act like thier doing something all day..
why not make your own virus in your free time that will only go on the lan, then notify your boss that you will be releasing it, and make sure it does not do anything more than send you the user's name and alert them that they are a moron and could have been infected..then just make a different one every month or so, and each time someone gets it just have a little chat with them..make sure it is when you are free and they are not..make it take as long as possible so they remember not to let it happen, and if they are not doing anything at the time, wait a week and interrupt them..even the average luser should catch on after a few months:)
i have a very clever and even humman(after many modifications to the idea) idea that would solve the problem of stupid people in the world:
untill the world population is down to around 2 billion people irradiate(only the reproductive organs of) anyone who has an iq below 100 - slowly people's iq will fall towards 100 as anyone below it is taken out, since 100 is the average..once this is done we will no doubt be a better society, and if we need hard workers we can always start geneticlly modifing apes and monkeys to do the dirty work:)
i don't know about you, but health class is the only thing that ever made me want to do drugs..just to try and show that bitch that she sucked as a teacher..
i grew out of that kind of stuff when i was about 10, and since have had around 6 years of great programming experiance in 11 different languages..i don't know exactly why i did it, but i know i would have just done more if people made a bigger deal out of it(thankfully i only crashed a few systems)
and btw i am a coder, not a scriptkiddie thinking he is a hacker, and even i know that there is NEVER a reason to call something like this terrorism unless there was an intent to harm someone, this is nothing more than vandilism, and it keeps most of the people on this website thier jobs because thier dumbass managers can't fix the stuff themselves, you react WAY to harshly to tragic events..
u moron, just make micro$hit fix thier flaws, when i design a program i make sure there are no passwords sent to a client for verification, no buffer over flows..etc..just make those newbie coders who managed to get the 1'st ibm os because the other guy didn't show up get a decent staff...
It should be mentioned that the LEP group has claimed to have seen the Higgs several times over the past few years, and each time (including this latest one) - this implies that you say it was discovered, and i am not getting modded down, some jackass moderator modded me down in a diff post, i have -1 karma because of one person fucking up my rating, not because they are modded down, when they are modded down, or up, they have an adjective beside the rating, read the faq..
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but a scriptkiddie does not know any of that, they do not know that so many people work so hard to fix it, they just know that they get the name of thier virus in the paper, past that they have no clue what happens..they have no intent to harm anything other than a computer, they need to be taughtabout what happens, then they will be awsome at security as most of them have a knack for it even if they only write lame scripts to start with...alot of security pros went through a script kiddie phase when they were younger
and btw, i am not yet in collage, i am a junior in high school and i know 11 programming langs, can use any of the 3d modalers i have seen, can use photoshop and psp, and am developing a quality video game with a few other people, once we sell the game we will all buy the software we sed to make it, because now we don't have the $, then we will.
dumbass this is what i am talking about, if you cannot get a job because of lack of skills then you need the programs to develop those skills, and it is not stealing, it is coping, if you do not take somthing of someone else's then you are not harming them, if you wern't going to buy it in the first place and you end up buying it because you liked it after using it for a few years and finally making enough money to buy it then you only helped the company, the only case it is wrong to pirate software is when you delete the original copy or steal actual data storage devices to get it, or if you were going to buy it and don't because u have it free..otherwise it is ok, and your analagies are flawed, you are talking about stealing something, i am talking about copying it, there is a big difference..one way you take it from someone to use it, the other you just copy it and it does not effect the other person..they can only make money by doing this because if you like the product and have any morals whatsoever then you end up buying it when you can.
lol...ever heard of a start-up script...if you can write a batch file(basicly if u know how 2 use dos), then you can send the patch to all the comps, and then send a batch file that you set once as a service at startup, the batch runs the patch, if there is no patch then just make the script close, if you cannot do this then you are obviously a moron who got his way paid through collage and you should be irradiated so you do not infect the rest of the gene-pool
i never install micro$oft updates...my theory is that they fix the bug, but add a new one so that they can fix it later and look like thier doing something, i meen lets face it, noone's code is that buggy..i figure keep the ancient bug on there that no scriptkiddie has ever heard of and let the new ones stay away from me.
why...the people who would use this to do bad shit are too moronic to figure this kind of thing out, they are the kind of people that copy and paste html from websites at random points and wonder y it dosn't look like they imagined, they are the 10 year old script kiddies that think they are tough shit, it would take them a month to figure it out if there were tech. details here, not that it really matters since this isn't a real hole anyway, if a user says open file from current location or says save file to disk and then opens it, they deserve to be infected, let the end lusers suffer...
if you have a windows comp then go into start-->find-->files or folders, then type in: "*.mpg *.mpeg *.avi", i have never downloaded any mpegs or avi's onto this comp, and i came up with 2416 just that different programs use, these are usually around 5 or 6kb, not hard to get 5k of them...
collage kids cannot afford these programs, and when they actualy make enough cash off of thier work they do buy them, until then they are doing no harm because they couldn't have bought the programs either way, this way they do more good than harm just because if they grew up on free stuff then they would not know how to use the pro stuff, if even less people end up using the pro stuff it just goes up in cost to make up for it, which just makes less people use it, and eventually there are so few people using it that the program, even though the most advanced and best, becomes obsolete because noone understands it, and you cannot use the learning edition of any software with the exception of maybee a cad program to do anything, take for example(even though every1 hates the maker) vb learning edition, it restricts access to all of the best functions..and things like winsock, if you can't learn on the full product then when you get into the real world you are usless, arresting people using warez that can't afford to buy it only hurts the econemy, and the companies that make the software who spend time defending it, arresting these people only does harm to our econemy, not good.
i slept through the last leonids to, at about 1am i fell asleep thinking foolishly i would lay down for a few minutes after staying up programming the night b4..lol
if you want to stop it at the source stop hyping it up, punish the kids(not too harshly because most WILL become security pros given about 10 years) and do not let the media say shit about it, other than places like /.(which i doubt any script kiddies could read) they are just making script-kiddies get off on seeing thier shit happen, then they brag to people about it online and off, and then those people tell people..and they just end up recruiting more script-kiddies..stop it where it starts, tell the kids they wrote a lame virus that barly did any harm and let it rest, give them a small sentance and let them find out about the real damage a few years later when they get a job.
that dosn't stop the problem, when i was a little kid i used to be a script kiddie, but now i am proficient in 11 languages, a lot of good programmers and security pros used to be script kiddies, if you cut them off not only will more take thier place because the other ones had such a big deal made out of them, but also you will be making a few years where there will be less-equiped coders and security guys to defend computers..
what if the only job a person could get was on a micro$hit network, and the person cannot change it because it is thier boss's idea since thier boss uses it at home and is too moronic to learn something now..is it still the IT guy's fault then? - because that is the situation most IT people are in, with the exception of the ones that bought thier way through collage and just act like thier doing something all day..
why not make your own virus in your free time that will only go on the lan, then notify your boss that you will be releasing it, and make sure it does not do anything more than send you the user's name and alert them that they are a moron and could have been infected..then just make a different one every month or so, and each time someone gets it just have a little chat with them..make sure it is when you are free and they are not..make it take as long as possible so they remember not to let it happen, and if they are not doing anything at the time, wait a week and interrupt them..even the average luser should catch on after a few months:)
i have a very clever and even humman(after many modifications to the idea) idea that would solve the problem of stupid people in the world:
untill the world population is down to around 2 billion people irradiate(only the reproductive organs of) anyone who has an iq below 100 - slowly people's iq will fall towards 100 as anyone below it is taken out, since 100 is the average..once this is done we will no doubt be a better society, and if we need hard workers we can always start geneticlly modifing apes and monkeys to do the dirty work:)
i don't know about you, but health class is the only thing that ever made me want to do drugs..just to try and show that bitch that she sucked as a teacher..
i grew out of that kind of stuff when i was about 10, and since have had around 6 years of great programming experiance in 11 different languages..i don't know exactly why i did it, but i know i would have just done more if people made a bigger deal out of it(thankfully i only crashed a few systems)
and btw i am a coder, not a scriptkiddie thinking he is a hacker, and even i know that there is NEVER a reason to call something like this terrorism unless there was an intent to harm someone, this is nothing more than vandilism, and it keeps most of the people on this website thier jobs because thier dumbass managers can't fix the stuff themselves, you react WAY to harshly to tragic events..
u moron, just make micro$hit fix thier flaws, when i design a program i make sure there are no passwords sent to a client for verification, no buffer over flows..etc..just make those newbie coders who managed to get the 1'st ibm os because the other guy didn't show up get a decent staff...
you need the money and without these script kiddies you wouldn't have gotten it, what is the complaint?
ha!
find the quote, i would not respect the word of anyone who says there is no mass limit...haha
it would explain the seeming order..but not the fact we can only see so far...keep trying..
1) there has been no proof of the higgs existance, that is what this article is about.
2) no expert would use the title opinion of expert.
3) "I don't want the higgs to exist" - good, i agree
opps..lol..i should start reading the whole thing first..sry bout that, your post oes seem like it supports the current theories though..lol..
It should be mentioned that the LEP group has claimed to have seen the Higgs several times over the past few years, and each time (including this latest one) - this implies that you say it was discovered, and i am not getting modded down, some jackass moderator modded me down in a diff post, i have -1 karma because of one person fucking up my rating, not because they are modded down, when they are modded down, or up, they have an adjective beside the rating, read the faq..
you = moronic little 10 year old that should be locked in a closet