Does this mean human self cannibalism is a profitable possibility, they say the meat is kinda sweet and all.
Seriously, Do you want to eat something thats GROWN in a "nutrient rich" (thats the people part I bet) , this is just so wrong to my pallete, mind, and sense of what is natural I cant see it.....
I have found something out over the years, the least likey scenario an engineer can imagine , I and others will do routinley.
There is a pressure of 400lbs aexerted by this gadget, it creates frequncy vibrations in a material that make sound, simple enough.
BUT my desk is partile composite with those idiot lags. No vibrsating the hell out of this 300 piece of junk for a long term is going, very simply to make it fall apart.
I have seen it before, vibration causing the particle composite to litteraly crumble when subjected to long term vibration. Glue seperates, and screws losen.
My fathers name is Dave, about 7 years back when 95 was still in its last internal beta we got our greasy hands on a copy from a MS employee...
Long and short I gained access to the thing one day while dropping some stuff off.
And changed all the wav files to stuff from 2001 a space oddessy. Now I thought this will be good, Ill get a call right away...nothing for days and days, Finally I said something, he had his speakers turned down pretty far but could still hear it on occasion, like when he was turning it off and it said dave, what are you doing dave....my mind is going, dave I can feel my mind going.... Long and short was he litteraly though he has working too much and didnt want to say anything to anyone.
About a week later he did the same to my computer while at my house and I was on a smoke run, next time I booted my computer, the damm thing was shouting it was all I could do to hold my 100lb dog from tearing my computer to shreads...
This is one I could have even more fun with he is running Xp, hack in and whenever a profanity is muttered, respond, like hey I dont appreciate your tone of voice, etc....
He is a bit older and has been working harder, wonder if hed tell me:)
I can only imagine what XP is putting in my word docs and client texts....
I maintain an XP Pro system next to my trusty RH and UltraSparc to gnash client docs up on and alter stuff in odd formats, visio crap etc.
I do have a mic on it......
Now I have to go through ALL my docs looking for randomly inserted profanities I scream when Im working on code....
Friday nigh 3 am and %*&%*&# @!!! it still isnt quite right.....lol...I can Only IMAGIN what my computer has heard. Lets pray it hasnt made its way into my docs...
Think about what you say/yell when youre alone and know it, its pretty funny. Hope noones XP box is listening:)
When big boys like this start duking it out over greed based issues, and lets be honest thats what this is, the end is near, It woulda been more fun to see say sony vs disney or maybe someone else they dont already own:)
Remerber when Ibm started trying to sue all the clone makers ? Or apple. Remeber when Sony sued over the betamax, or so on so forth.
I think what happens is greed reaches an apex, it cannot make money off going after the little guys distributing css, (it can try to limi it) but at some point it all falls like a house of cards when companies like this focus all their energies out of squeezing every last cent out of anyone for any reason , and in the process become a company for which litigation is their core business. V/Unv core business is supposed to be entertainment. I wouldnt know I have boycotted any materials, my small part in the struggle. But it seems no longer like a company interested in entertainment but more so litigation.
When companies like these start running around suing each other its often too late and they are only trying to salvage what they can, or make a stnd where they are, anyone know their current financials ? (the real ones please:)
Free as it is used as a legal term in the gnu site and texts and Freedom as it has been wielded in these discussions are not the same, free is to provide without cost, free is to act in a manner without ahving to request permission, Freedom is to do what you may without obstructing that same right to others.
It is free, it has no cost, you are free (this is not freedom as an absolute undertand) to distribute the software, you are free to modify it.
You DONT have the FREEDOM to tie it up in a proprietary product and SELL it, while not contibuting back, or providing credit where credit is due. this is not freedom even according to the liscence, which is actually fairly liberal in contrast to commercial liscencing. I have a commercial licence for a product ( I think its defunt now) that is over 12 megs of plain ascii text, its like the holy bible of liscences. The product in question was granted 2 million dollars when it was current in 92 but sheesh.
You are assigning the following to your interperation of freedom "if it is, then I SHOULD be able to take code released under the GPL, and use it any way I wish. ", I am guarenteed freedom of religion under the constituion and if I decide to eat a few small children is that protected ? no not even close. Why ? Well its pretty simple, my freedom cannot interfere with others basic rights, and under the terms of the liscence taking it out of the PUBLIC and is againt the freedoms of others UNDER this liscence.
My answer of in a nutshell no , was meant and I should have been more clear, your freedoms of use under the liscence in the scenario you propose of doing anything you wnat would by act take away the freedoms under the GPL of others.
Now that said you can for internal use do what you will with the stuff and NEVER commit anyhting back, but if you expose of subject the public to it or its derived works you are bound to submit those changes back.
You have a point. Maybe this is MS intention of C# to avoid their own problems with just this issue. (I am of course joking we all know world domination throught IT enslavement is the real goal)
But a point you may be missing is MANY of the languages are built on C and as a result in effect inherently unsafe as well, unless they are self hosting.
Well, if youre willing to pay for it, PAY for it and have it written from someone else under an NON-GPL licence,
OR if it is a NON group effort GPL application, contact the author, he is (even under the terms of the GPL) allowed to "dual-liscence" the application, it can be done in a group but all contributors must agree, on a larger project this isnt feasable.
You have to rewrite nothing, you started with nothing.
Why, im curious, do people feel "entitled" to other people creative works ? They are making their application available to everyone at no charge and that just dosent seem to be good enough.
You have options LOTS of em, A write it yourself, B Dual liscence it, C buy licence to commercial product.
There is SERIOUS confusion around here as to what is BAD and what HURTS someone,
Just because it dosent HELP you dosent mean it HURTS you, it would hurt you if it limited your availability to come up with your own solution.
You cant in one breath say "If my company were writing an application based on components written by someone else" an in another say "So we'd have to rewrite the components from scratch, and the application would take longer and cost more to produce " Truth is the only reason you have access to it in the first place is the kindness of others.
THESE are EXACTLY the reason I commit VERY little source back to the OpenSource community any longer. And CERTAINLY the reason I give NO code to any BSD liscnced project. People telling me how they should be able to use the code I am giving them. Write it yourself, or pay to have it done, MANY GPL authors are VERY receptive to the dual licensing of their software, and even in group efforts where the group benifits from the funds, its done maybe more than you know. And it complies with the GPL.
This kills me, first, it seems more like they were investors than employeeds, 350k isnt exactly a months salary even for me:)
Ive taken cuts and once a pay period delay, why, I belived in the company, knew the books, and knew 2 weeks from then Id be paid plus a bonus for my inconvinence.
Continuing on a path with no end in sight seems more like an investment and is probably aruably not covered by the employment laws. Not that they cant recover it just may be a wee bit tougher.
I saw a documentary on the Russian Nayv, a western news crew walks onboard a battleship in dock, they can only find ONE , that it ONE crew member and his family living in the ship, they ask the guy why he stays for 7 months with no pay, he answers with a confused look. "What happens if one day I dont show and we get paid ?" he was absolutley confused by the reporters question, we are after all talkking about a fellow that not too long before and his whole life had to stand 8 hours in line for toilet paper.
But why show up ? Were these Loki guys afraid one day they wouldnt show and everyone would get paid but them ?
Its not truly BAD for the people and situations you describe, it just could be better, it in NO way INTERFERES with their ability to come up with their own solution.
A piece of say the best thing since sliced bread being out there and GPL causes no harm, hence its not bad, to ANYONE except the 2 groups I listed, you are as always entirley FREE to come up and send the time creating your own alternative.
The GPL would ONLY be bad to any group IF it interfered with their ability to create and distribute their own IP, it does neither.
The GPL could be better for the uses you mentioned, but it does them no harm, hence its not bad.
I write code, I can do whatever I want with that code,
If I choose I can sell it, (Its value is lessened if any tom, dick, or harry can, and legally, get it elsewhere) I can do so.
I can open source it, in doing so I am granting others the right to use it, Under whatever liscence I deem appropriate(remeber its my code)
Or I can let it sit on my hard drive and rot. not much use there.
But If I write the code, its my choice ho I make it available, If I am gracious enough to give it to the world, why should they dictate the terms under which they would like to use it ? That greed, and being ungrateful.
I have MANY time seen things I needed similar solutions too and said damm be nice to use that in my project, but I couldnt, mine was proprietary theirs was GPL, so what, I wrote my own. No bitching no moaning, just an understanding its not my code who am I to tell someone else how to make the code their blood and sweat into available to me under my terms, I wouldnt do it and I dont expect anyone would do it to me.
I am a capatilist, simple period. If I can make more money using open source I will, but if it interests dont meet mine, I will write my own code to fill that need.
Why is it bad, youre confused, its bad for you, because of reason #2, period.
You want to do something that you only have a right to use out of the goodness of someones heart and vision, and theats NOT ENGOUGH FOR YOU.
You are a lucky fellow that stuff is available as a free alternative at all for you to use, disect, inspect, and modify.
Use ALL proprietary tools, hell there out there, some are even much better. But, you dont, why ?
Is it because you dont want to spend $$$ on the commercial alternatives or is it because the free tools are better ?
You may be confused, you can write any proprietary thing YOU want with ALL gpl tools, you can even link as needed with LGPL , now, that said, UNLESS you want to take actual code from A GPL app and tie it into your own, in which case see my closing statement.
"3. Those who would like to use code, are entirely willing to give credit where credit is due, but haven't decided yet if they want to (or, legally, are allowed to) release their own code"
Once again, write your own code, I have contibuted to GPL and NON GPL projects, I have had my code stripped and moved to proprietary products. Im not game here, if you want it to be yours, write it yourself, I no longer submit code to any BSD project, just for this reason, this goes to my second point to the letter.
"4. Anyone who wants to see open standards. It was only the existance of free-for-any-use code which lead to the global use of TCP/IP -- back when every company had their own proprietary network protocols, the only reason they added TCP/IP support in was because they could do so (almost) for free."
The GPL is not meant for the setting of standads, it was meant to provide commercial alternative, supported and developed by a group for public use.
"5. Anyone who wants commercial software companies to release their source code. Companies which operate by selling software are never going to GPL their code; they might, on the other hand, release it under a less restrictive license which would allow them to incorporate improvements back into their own codebase"
Thats fine, let them release it under ANY licence THEY want, its their code. Noone is under ANY obligation to release anything. Ive coded stuff that I wouldnt give to god or country, and things Ive done for companies I couldnt even if I wanted to. CHOICE is what its all about do what you want with what you own, but at the same time dont try to dictate terms about something you dont, (dont take this the wrong way, Im not talking about you)
1.Those that make a copeting product with a GPL available substitute, (SQL, Linux, etc) and stand to lose money from cometition (i.e. MS)
2.Those that would like to steal code repackage it and sell it without giving either credit or code back to whence it came.
Thats it PERIOD.
All this viral liscence crap and Craig Dumbdie spewing trash means nothing, the big boys the ones that count know. IBM, Copmaq, the people from a high line backing know this is all MS horeshit.
I love the people that complain about hte license ONLY because the see $$$ signs and want to take it reroll it and sell it without contributing a damm thing back, those are the ones that make me laugh, go write the fucking code yourself.
Well, I am suprised to see Borland or Corel didnt lead this suit front.
Now that MS has been found GUILTY of anticompetitive practices the floodgate will probably open.
"Who have we harmed today ?"
To be honest any Joe,Dick or Harry, could sue them for harm if in some way they could show (by the finding of guilt) they have been directly harmed.
The really funny part is, well Ill be blunt, JAVA sucks IMHO, and in alot other peoples opinion too, To sue because MS has broken Java compatibility is like suing the vaccine companies for erradicating smallpox......
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Well, I must say it looks as with budget cuts and a total lack of inspiration (possibly a result of the cuts) NASA is starting to lokk more and more like its russian counterpart, aging technologies, equipment poorly designed equiptment, and having to hack everything to hell and back just to get it to work.
Maybe I should go into the space-tape buiness, or selling external aftermarket thrusters to keep this shit in space.
I am really suprised NASA is in as bad a shape as it is, The Military can use space as the ultimate high ground, cmon the AF even has space figter training in progress, where are the damm ships and when will these efforts pay off in the comercial sector ?
The moon missions were singulary one of the greatest technical feats ever accomplished, more research and commercial products were born from the Appolo missions thatn any other goverment venture sending us YEARS ahead of our competiton , only for what ? To sit on our asses and never rise above 30 year old shuttle designs ?
Network Associates made a fatal mistake in my opinion, that singularly was to belive people are smart enough to ACTUALLY KNOW they need encryption.
People in general, Im not talking slashot techno geeks. Have NO clue WHATSOEVER that information can be snatched from the net. I have told people they have mail bouncing only to see hen freak and become accusitory , HOW do You KNOW ?? You mean You could READ IT ? Blah Blah Blah, I look at em and say yeah but to bwe honest I could give a crap less what you write and to who. hat usually tones em down a notch.
BUT Back to the point, If someone dosent KNOW there is a NEED then there is NO market for the product , If people dont buy it because they dont know there is a need can you blame em ? If someone tried to sell you say a under the desk testicle shield for radiological effects from monitor transmission would you buy it ? a few would , but most no , WHY ? Becaues if here is no problem, the product COMPLETLEY loses its percieved value.
Now, that said they are in a bad market to try and pitch the inherent Insecurity of networks, being Network Associates and all...
These things have an ivory colored bill....and make a wierd sound ?
Ooooppppssss.....
I think I hit one last year, thought it was just a mutant, seriously. Ive seen woodpeckers around the house in droves since I was a kid, there a lot of older poles riddled with bugs they like to chomp, It can get at times annoying, no worse than catching a humminbird in the eye, had that happen too.
But whizzing down my moms road last year, smack right in the windshield, I pulled in my moms and walked back, it was dead and I wanted to make sure it wasnt suffering. My uncle, next door commented it was indeed different than we had ever seen, the usuall red and grey jobbers.
I always feel like Im looking at one of those 'are you stoned ?' t shirts with blury text.
I have been hammering away at aconsole since 79, I have 20-20 vision in my 30's and have singularly NEVER gotten a headache from looking at a screen to long, I hated when ambers came out I like green.
But you are not alone, everytime Im looking at AA I try to focus.
Your not missing anything, who is anyone to tell you youre wrong, like the old myopic lady that has her fonts jacked up to the size of playing cards, it works for her.
NOW This is true on a screen, this is transient infromation, mine isnt up long enough to have to look good.
There is it appears a new embedded version, Ill have to look at that,
Ive had 2 installs up for over a year, both only ceased functioning once, when the people at their location forgot it was there and unplugged em, (both places:)
To me something you can truly forget about is the ticke, VPN clients and all....
This privacy stuff is getting to the point I want to scream "NOTHING IS PRIVATE IN THE FIRST PLACE" , Learn it live with it, your habbits , are profiled, you can do one of serveral things.
Come up with a COMPLETE , ALTER Identity, mine has even its own credit rating(this happened quite by accident). Pay 500 bucks set up a corporation and accounts, set up a false name with access to those account (This IS legal, a role account) AND since all your transactions are online (banking and such you will never need an ID, BESIDES, YOU the officer has access in person if its needed) Get a corprate PO box, and youre set, never need to use your real name again, NOW this isnt to avoid law enforcment it wont work, they can still find you, BUT it will completley render useless almost all personal data collected on you for marketing purposes.
Second is completley screw with the profiling efforts, the left and right 5% are typically dismissed in marketing efforts, fall into that and they wont bother you.
Third, dont care, dont give a crap, and let em send you all the targeted marketing they want, know your information is a commodity to be sold and have fun with that, adding things like wrong phone numbers, and bizzare information whenever possible which ties into number 2.
OR the LAST reccomendation, you will go NUTS, Worry about all of this, make every effort to OPT out, calling all your creditors, and online subscription companies to find out what their OPT out policy is (they have to have one) and try to OPT OUT of all data sharing, only to find you forgot one place and your data is still EVERYWHERE !
Slashdot Mirror
Goldfish my butt,
Remeber Soylent Green,
There was also Soylent Red and some other colors I dont remeber,
This is the first step, Soylent GOLD !!!!
Soylent-Green for the masses
Its people my god, SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE !
Does this mean human self cannibalism is a profitable possibility, they say the meat is kinda sweet and all.
Seriously, Do you want to eat something thats GROWN in a "nutrient rich" (thats the people part I bet) , this is just so wrong to my pallete, mind, and sense of what is natural I cant see it.....
"obfuscated code aficionado" hell my code, most of it , just like my slashdot posts is so obfuscated a month later I cant even understand it.
From the article....
I=SKK
Y=SSK(S(K(SS(S(SSK))))K)
Pxyz=zxy
0xy=x
1xy=y
?xy=1
$x=0
Maybe Im a bit tiered but dosent this sound a little Orwellian to all you ? "2+2=5"
I have found something out over the years, the least likey scenario an engineer can imagine , I and others will do routinley.
:)
There is a pressure of 400lbs aexerted by this gadget, it creates frequncy vibrations in a material that make sound, simple enough.
BUT my desk is partile composite with those idiot lags. No vibrsating the hell out of this 300 piece of junk for a long term is going, very simply to make it fall apart.
I have seen it before, vibration causing the particle composite to litteraly crumble when subjected to long term vibration. Glue seperates, and screws losen.
Be real neat righ up until your desk collapses
I am in fact a 31 year old white male with a 174 IQ, and an individual that can type over 150wpm(and was trying to do just that).
:)
:)
Now that said yesterday I was on a pretty high post surgial dose of valium and, had only about 30 seconds to make a post while walking by a console
4th grader with a lobotomy ? Well thats pretty close to how I was feeling, 31 year old on (legal mind you) drugs is more accurate
ROFL, hell I think the big metal mickey Ive seen might give Zilla a run for his money....lol..
......
Yeah something like that
(screaming japaneese tourists at disney are a must for this mental picture)
My fathers name is Dave, about 7 years back when 95 was still in its last internal beta we got our greasy hands on a copy from a MS employee...
...nothing for days and days, Finally I said something, he had his speakers turned down pretty far but could still hear it on occasion, like when he was turning it off and it said dave, what are you doing dave....my mind is going, dave I can feel my mind going.... Long and short was he litteraly though he has working too much and didnt want to say anything to anyone.
:)
Long and short I gained access to the thing one day while dropping some stuff off.
And changed all the wav files to stuff from 2001 a space oddessy. Now I thought this will be good, Ill get a call right away
About a week later he did the same to my computer while at my house and I was on a smoke run, next time I booted my computer, the damm thing was shouting it was all I could do to hold my 100lb dog from tearing my computer to shreads...
This is one I could have even more fun with he is running Xp, hack in and whenever a profanity is muttered, respond, like hey I dont appreciate your tone of voice, etc....
He is a bit older and has been working harder, wonder if hed tell me
I can only imagine what XP is putting in my word docs and client texts....
:)
I maintain an XP Pro system next to my trusty RH and UltraSparc to gnash client docs up on and alter stuff in odd formats, visio crap etc.
I do have a mic on it......
Now I have to go through ALL my docs looking for randomly inserted profanities I scream when Im working on code....
Friday nigh 3 am and %*&%*&# @!!! it still isnt quite right.....lol...I can Only IMAGIN what my computer has heard. Lets pray it hasnt made its way into my docs...
Think about what you say/yell when youre alone and know it, its pretty funny. Hope noones XP box is listening
When big boys like this start duking it out over greed based issues, and lets be honest thats what this is, the end is near, It woulda been more fun to see say sony vs disney or maybe someone else they dont already own :)
:)
Remerber when Ibm started trying to sue all the clone makers ? Or apple. Remeber when Sony sued over the betamax, or so on so forth.
I think what happens is greed reaches an apex, it cannot make money off going after the little guys distributing css, (it can try to limi it) but at some point it all falls like a house of cards when companies like this focus all their energies out of squeezing every last cent out of anyone for any reason , and in the process become a company for which litigation is their core business. V/Unv core business is supposed to be entertainment. I wouldnt know I have boycotted any materials, my small part in the struggle. But it seems no longer like a company interested in entertainment but more so litigation.
When companies like these start running around suing each other its often too late and they are only trying to salvage what they can, or make a stnd where they are, anyone know their current financials ? (the real ones please
I have, and I have read it many times.
Free as it is used as a legal term in the gnu site and texts and Freedom as it has been wielded in these discussions are not the same, free is to provide without cost, free is to act in a manner without ahving to request permission, Freedom is to do what you may without obstructing that same right to others.
It is free, it has no cost, you are free (this is not freedom as an absolute undertand) to distribute the software, you are free to modify it.
You DONT have the FREEDOM to tie it up in a proprietary product and SELL it, while not contibuting back, or providing credit where credit is due. this is not freedom even according to the liscence, which is actually fairly liberal in contrast to commercial liscencing. I have a commercial licence for a product ( I think its defunt now) that is over 12 megs of plain ascii text, its like the holy bible of liscences. The product in question was granted 2 million dollars when it was current in 92 but sheesh.
You are assigning the following to your interperation of freedom "if it is, then I SHOULD be able to take code released under the GPL, and use it any way I wish.
", I am guarenteed freedom of religion under the constituion and if I decide to eat a few small children is that protected ? no not even close. Why ? Well its pretty simple, my freedom cannot interfere with others basic rights, and under the terms of the liscence taking it out of the PUBLIC and is againt the freedoms of others UNDER this liscence.
My answer of in a nutshell no , was meant and I should have been more clear, your freedoms of use under the liscence in the scenario you propose of doing anything you wnat would by act take away the freedoms under the GPL of others.
Now that said you can for internal use do what you will with the stuff and NEVER commit anyhting back, but if you expose of subject the public to it or its derived works you are bound to submit those changes back.
"Isn't the GPL all about Freedom?"
In a nutshell NO
Its , lets read it aloud shall we.
GENERAL
PUBLIC
LISCENCE
Now what part of wrapping something up in a proprietary product is public ?
Methinks many here have not read the liscence or the faq, ever.....
I think most importantly people are completey missing the spirit of the liscence
You have a point. Maybe this is MS intention of C# to avoid their own problems with just this issue. (I am of course joking we all know world domination throught IT enslavement is the real goal)
But a point you may be missing is MANY of the languages are built on C and as a result in effect inherently unsafe as well, unless they are self hosting.
Well, if youre willing to pay for it, PAY for it and have it written from someone else under an NON-GPL licence,
OR if it is a NON group effort GPL application, contact the author, he is (even under the terms of the GPL) allowed to "dual-liscence" the application, it can be done in a group but all contributors must agree, on a larger project this isnt feasable.
You have to rewrite nothing, you started with nothing.
Why, im curious, do people feel "entitled" to other people creative works ? They are making their application available to everyone at no charge and that just dosent seem to be good enough.
You have options LOTS of em, A write it yourself, B Dual liscence it, C buy licence to commercial product.
There is SERIOUS confusion around here as to what is BAD and what HURTS someone,
Just because it dosent HELP you dosent mean it HURTS you, it would hurt you if it limited your availability to come up with your own solution.
You cant in one breath say "If my company were writing an application based on components written by someone else" an in another say "So we'd have to rewrite the components from scratch, and the application would take longer and cost more to produce " Truth is the only reason you have access to it in the first place is the kindness of others.
THESE are EXACTLY the reason I commit VERY little source back to the OpenSource community any longer. And CERTAINLY the reason I give NO code to any BSD liscnced project. People telling me how they should be able to use the code I am giving them. Write it yourself, or pay to have it done, MANY GPL authors are VERY receptive to the dual licensing of their software, and even in group efforts where the group benifits from the funds, its done maybe more than you know. And it complies with the GPL.
This kills me, first, it seems more like they were investors than employeeds, 350k isnt exactly a months salary even for me :)
Ive taken cuts and once a pay period delay, why, I belived in the company, knew the books, and knew 2 weeks from then Id be paid plus a bonus for my inconvinence.
Continuing on a path with no end in sight seems more like an investment and is probably aruably not covered by the employment laws. Not that they cant recover it just may be a wee bit tougher.
I saw a documentary on the Russian Nayv, a western news crew walks onboard a battleship in dock, they can only find ONE , that it ONE crew member and his family living in the ship, they ask the guy why he stays for 7 months with no pay, he answers with a confused look. "What happens if one day I dont show and we get paid ?" he was absolutley confused by the reporters question, we are after all talkking about a fellow that not too long before and his whole life had to stand 8 hours in line for toilet paper.
But why show up ? Were these Loki guys afraid one day they wouldnt show and everyone would get paid but them ?
Confusion on both our parts I think,
:)
Its not truly BAD for the people and situations you describe, it just could be better, it in NO way INTERFERES with their ability to come up with their own solution.
A piece of say the best thing since sliced bread being out there and GPL causes no harm, hence its not bad, to ANYONE except the 2 groups I listed, you are as always entirley FREE to come up and send the time creating your own alternative.
The GPL would ONLY be bad to any group IF it interfered with their ability to create and distribute their own IP, it does neither.
The GPL could be better for the uses you mentioned, but it does them no harm, hence its not bad.
Dont you love how I paint in black and white
I write code, I can do whatever I want with that code,
If I choose I can sell it, (Its value is lessened if any tom, dick, or harry can, and legally, get it elsewhere) I can do so.
I can open source it, in doing so I am granting others the right to use it, Under whatever liscence I deem appropriate(remeber its my code)
Or I can let it sit on my hard drive and rot. not much use there.
But If I write the code, its my choice ho I make it available, If I am gracious enough to give it to the world, why should they dictate the terms under which they would like to use it ? That greed, and being ungrateful.
I have MANY time seen things I needed similar solutions too and said damm be nice to use that in my project, but I couldnt, mine was proprietary theirs was GPL, so what, I wrote my own. No bitching no moaning, just an understanding its not my code who am I to tell someone else how to make the code their blood and sweat into available to me under my terms, I wouldnt do it and I dont expect anyone would do it to me.
I am a capatilist, simple period. If I can make more money using open source I will, but if it interests dont meet mine, I will write my own code to fill that need.
Why is it bad, youre confused, its bad for you, because of reason #2, period.
You want to do something that you only have a right to use out of the goodness of someones heart and vision, and theats NOT ENGOUGH FOR YOU.
You are a lucky fellow that stuff is available as a free alternative at all for you to use, disect, inspect, and modify.
Use ALL proprietary tools, hell there out there, some are even much better. But, you dont, why ?
Is it because you dont want to spend $$$ on the commercial alternatives or is it because the free tools are better ?
You may be confused, you can write any proprietary thing YOU want with ALL gpl tools, you can even link as needed with LGPL , now, that said, UNLESS you want to take actual code from A GPL app and tie it into your own, in which case see my closing statement.
I have to disagree.
"3. Those who would like to use code, are entirely willing to give credit where credit is due, but haven't decided yet if they want to (or, legally, are allowed to) release their own code"
Once again, write your own code, I have contibuted to GPL and NON GPL projects, I have had my code stripped and moved to proprietary products. Im not game here, if you want it to be yours, write it yourself, I no longer submit code to any BSD project, just for this reason, this goes to my second point to the letter.
"4. Anyone who wants to see open standards. It was only the existance of free-for-any-use code which lead to the global use of TCP/IP -- back when every company had their own proprietary network protocols, the only reason they added TCP/IP support in was because they could do so (almost) for free."
The GPL is not meant for the setting of standads, it was meant to provide commercial alternative, supported and developed by a group for public use.
"5. Anyone who wants commercial software companies to release their source code. Companies which operate by selling software are never going to GPL their code; they might, on the other hand, release it under a less restrictive license which would allow them to incorporate improvements back into their own codebase"
Thats fine, let them release it under ANY licence THEY want, its their code. Noone is under ANY obligation to release anything. Ive coded stuff that I wouldnt give to god or country, and things Ive done for companies I couldnt even if I wanted to. CHOICE is what its all about do what you want with what you own, but at the same time dont try to dictate terms about something you dont, (dont take this the wrong way, Im not talking about you)
GPL, Apache, BSD, all these licences .
Who is the GPL bad for ?
Only 2 kinds of people, thats it TWO and ONLY two
1.Those that make a copeting product with a GPL available substitute, (SQL, Linux, etc) and stand to lose money from cometition (i.e. MS)
2.Those that would like to steal code repackage it and sell it without giving either credit or code back to whence it came.
Thats it PERIOD.
All this viral liscence crap and Craig Dumbdie spewing trash means nothing, the big boys the ones that count know. IBM, Copmaq, the people from a high line backing know this is all MS horeshit.
I love the people that complain about hte license ONLY because the see $$$ signs and want to take it reroll it and sell it without contributing a damm thing back, those are the ones that make me laugh, go write the fucking code yourself.
Well, I am suprised to see Borland or Corel didnt lead this suit front.
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Now that MS has been found GUILTY of anticompetitive practices the floodgate will probably open.
"Who have we harmed today ?"
To be honest any Joe,Dick or Harry, could sue them for harm if in some way they could show (by the finding of guilt) they have been directly harmed.
The really funny part is, well Ill be blunt, JAVA sucks IMHO, and in alot other peoples opinion too, To sue because MS has broken Java compatibility is like suing the vaccine companies for erradicating smallpox
Well, I must say it looks as with budget cuts and a total lack of inspiration (possibly a result of the cuts) NASA is starting to lokk more and more like its russian counterpart, aging technologies, equipment poorly designed equiptment, and having to hack everything to hell and back just to get it to work.
Maybe I should go into the space-tape buiness, or selling external aftermarket thrusters to keep this shit in space.
I am really suprised NASA is in as bad a shape as it is, The Military can use space as the ultimate high ground, cmon the AF even has space figter training in progress, where are the damm ships and when will these efforts pay off in the comercial sector ?
The moon missions were singulary one of the greatest technical feats ever accomplished, more research and commercial products were born from the Appolo missions thatn any other goverment venture sending us YEARS ahead of our competiton , only for what ? To sit on our asses and never rise above 30 year old shuttle designs ?
Network Associates made a fatal mistake in my opinion, that singularly was to belive people are smart enough to ACTUALLY KNOW they need encryption.
People in general, Im not talking slashot techno geeks. Have NO clue WHATSOEVER that information can be snatched from the net. I have told people they have mail bouncing only to see hen freak and become accusitory , HOW do You KNOW ?? You mean You could READ IT ? Blah Blah Blah, I look at em and say yeah but to bwe honest I could give a crap less what you write and to who. hat usually tones em down a notch.
BUT Back to the point, If someone dosent KNOW there is a NEED then there is NO market for the product , If people dont buy it because they dont know there is a need can you blame em ? If someone tried to sell you say a under the desk testicle shield for radiological effects from monitor transmission would you buy it ? a few would , but most no , WHY ? Becaues if here is no problem, the product COMPLETLEY loses its percieved value.
Now, that said they are in a bad market to try and pitch the inherent Insecurity of networks, being Network Associates and all...
These things have an ivory colored bill....and make a wierd sound ?
Ooooppppssss.....
I think I hit one last year, thought it was just a mutant, seriously. Ive seen woodpeckers around the house in droves since I was a kid, there a lot of older poles riddled with bugs they like to chomp, It can get at times annoying, no worse than catching a humminbird in the eye, had that happen too.
But whizzing down my moms road last year, smack right in the windshield, I pulled in my moms and walked back, it was dead and I wanted to make sure it wasnt suffering. My uncle, next door commented it was indeed different than we had ever seen, the usuall red and grey jobbers.
Chock one more extinct speices up to GM.....
I have to agree 100% here...
I always feel like Im looking at one of those 'are you stoned ?' t shirts with blury text.
I have been hammering away at aconsole since 79, I have 20-20 vision in my 30's and have singularly NEVER gotten a headache from looking at a screen to long, I hated when ambers came out I like green.
But you are not alone, everytime Im looking at AA I try to focus.
Your not missing anything, who is anyone to tell you youre wrong, like the old myopic lady that has her fonts jacked up to the size of playing cards, it works for her.
NOW This is true on a screen, this is transient infromation, mine isnt up long enough to have to look good.
From one of the fist fellows to bring a RoadRunner clinet to Linux, Josh Jackson.
This is simply put the slickest stuff going from what Ive seen, I actually waled my mom through an install over the phone.
COYOTE LINUX
There is it appears a new embedded version, Ill have to look at that,
Ive had 2 installs up for over a year, both only ceased functioning once, when the people at their location forgot it was there and unplugged em, (both places:)
To me something you can truly forget about is the ticke, VPN clients and all....
This privacy stuff is getting to the point I want to scream "NOTHING IS PRIVATE IN THE FIRST PLACE" , Learn it live with it, your habbits , are profiled, you can do one of serveral things.
Come up with a COMPLETE , ALTER Identity, mine has even its own credit rating(this happened quite by accident). Pay 500 bucks set up a corporation and accounts, set up a false name with access to those account (This IS legal, a role account) AND since all your transactions are online (banking and such you will never need an ID, BESIDES, YOU the officer has access in person if its needed) Get a corprate PO box, and youre set, never need to use your real name again, NOW this isnt to avoid law enforcment it wont work, they can still find you, BUT it will completley render useless almost all personal data collected on you for marketing purposes.
Second is completley screw with the profiling efforts, the left and right 5% are typically dismissed in marketing efforts, fall into that and they wont bother you.
Third, dont care, dont give a crap, and let em send you all the targeted marketing they want, know your information is a commodity to be sold and have fun with that, adding things like wrong phone numbers, and bizzare information whenever possible which ties into number 2.
OR the LAST reccomendation, you will go NUTS, Worry about all of this, make every effort to OPT out, calling all your creditors, and online subscription companies to find out what their OPT out policy is (they have to have one) and try to OPT OUT of all data sharing, only to find you forgot one place and your data is still EVERYWHERE !