The problems is the concorde are so numerous it's amazing that they even fly it. The Japanese are trying a design that would eliminate those problems. It's not surprising that they would encounter setbacks.
Even though everyone is always saying how bad american made goods are, this is good proof why everyone in the world (sans Russia) flys american made planes.
Wow... what skill. You condensed like 8 pages of debate into 3 short paragraphs. And this is the best point I've heard so far -- the guys on the mailing list are rather averse to saying that linus couldn't maintain a kernel to save his life, so just get {alan, marciello, et al} on stable as soon as it comes out, and branch the dev one shortly thereafter.
We had to build stuff on the breadboard using the HC11 for processing - We did not, as I think might have been unclear, have to build our on HC11. 5 projects (each 20% of our overall), including a push-button calculator, a voice mail, and an eletronic etch-a-sketch. The HC11's were free (assuming you turned it back in at the end of the semester)... but man, some late nights in the lab made it tempting target...
To quote the movie Billy Madison: what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
This past spring I had the most godawful computer engineering class... we were all given HC11's mounted on a power supply along with a breadboard. It wouldn't have been so bad if the professor hadn't had a policy of "it doesn't work, your grade is 0." (Each lab was 20% of the overall grade) Anyway, I remember many a night in the lab where the people would get frustrated and swear that at the end of the semester, they going to take out one of those poor boxes and beat the *&%$% out of it. If those boxes didn't cost $500, I'm sure a few people would have done it too...
I agree with you -- when I tried BEos (once upon a time), I found it MUCH easier to use than linux. But I guess it comes down to -- which has a better chance of success - taking BE and making developing it to the point where it can compete with windows, or taking Linux and covering up all those under-the-hood traits that have held it back so far.
Given that BE is relatively new, and as yet (I would assume) under-developed, what would be the challenges in getting it to work natively using windows drivers? In other words, why re-write every driver for every peice of hardware, when one could change the OS once instead?
I agree with you in principle, but disagree with you in reality. In reality, the people developing OSS are a limited resource. More time should be put into making Linux user friendly and accessable to "normal" people (just think of those useful error messages some programs kick out) Why develop BEos from scratch to a point of usability when you have one OS that's already there? Why spread the Open Source community's resources even thinner, when it only detracts from what, IMHO, should be the overriding task of making a greater imact on the desktop.
Seriously, I think he makes an excellent point. I'd *love* to hear them try to explain this one away with their cooperate-speak. They'll prolly try to sell it off an as honest mistake, that the guy responsible has been summarily punished, etc etc.
I see it differently. This is going to cost a lot of $, and really none of the space agencies can afford to go it alone. I think this is going to be a boon for international cooperation in the field. Until they have to decide who actually sets foot on mars first.
After seeing this post, I emailed him. Here is the text of it: Dear Prof Mills
If you noticed a dramatic increass in traffic to the NTP website, I can tell you why. Slashdot, the geek oriented website, ran a feature article on it. (It's currently the top listed one). You can get to it here --> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/07/04/2 24236 =thread=99 . I'd appreciate any thoughts you have on the matter
~Mark ________
[last name erased when posting]
- - - - - - - - - - - His response: Mark,
Amazing how disinformation goes round and round. Try reading comp.protocols.time.ntp.
Prof. Mills
The link he referred to was news:comp.protocols.time.ntp
(Sorry to reply to my own comment, but there's one more thing I just thought of)
In several past rulings, the court has used the analogy of the internet being akin to a public bathroom wall. What does the law say if you post something defamous on the wall -- IE, "Mr. So-and-so is a you-know-what..." If you were sued, would the court interview people to find out when the last time someone had seen the scribble? I doubt it
A YRO decision that I actually agree with? But seriously, I think that this one is actually coherent. If you post something defamous, and (assuming it later gets yanked), the law should judge it from the time you commited the *act* of uploading the document from the web, not from the time someone else saw it.
That's complete BS. KW'ing actually does serve a useful purpose -- it brings facts into the discussion that would not otherwise be brought up. The people who get the +5 get it because they contribute to the discussion.
I'd like to say, having had my Western Digital drive fail me last month (RMA # 4804884). The real salt-in-the-open-wound occured when I was filling out the return forms -- they make you agree to the disclaimer on the return receipt : "I do not hold Western digital liable for data lost"... isn't that akin to a car manufacturer saying that if you die in a fiery wreck because of a defect in their car, it's not their fault? Or, as in the example, if the company in question makes you waive any future liablitity on their part before you can have the pacemaker implanted.
The problems is the concorde are so numerous it's amazing that they even fly it. The Japanese are trying a design that would eliminate those problems. It's not surprising that they would encounter setbacks.
Even though everyone is always saying how bad american made goods are, this is good proof why everyone in the world (sans Russia) flys american made planes.
Wow... what skill. You condensed like 8 pages of debate into 3 short paragraphs. And this is the best point I've heard so far -- the guys on the mailing list are rather averse to saying that linus couldn't maintain a kernel to save his life, so just get {alan, marciello, et al} on stable as soon as it comes out, and branch the dev one shortly thereafter.
Wow... I can almost feel the whooshing of thousands of fingers belonging to thousands of moderators racing to mod you down.
We had to build stuff on the breadboard using the HC11 for processing - We did not, as I think might have been unclear, have to build our on HC11. 5 projects (each 20% of our overall), including a push-button calculator, a voice mail, and an eletronic etch-a-sketch. The HC11's were free (assuming you turned it back in at the end of the semester)... but man, some late nights in the lab made it tempting target...
To quote the movie Billy Madison:
what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
This past spring I had the most godawful computer engineering class... we were all given HC11's mounted on a power supply along with a breadboard. It wouldn't have been so bad if the professor hadn't had a policy of "it doesn't work, your grade is 0." (Each lab was 20% of the overall grade) Anyway, I remember many a night in the lab where the people would get frustrated and swear that at the end of the semester, they going to take out one of those poor boxes and beat the *&%$% out of it. If those boxes didn't cost $500, I'm sure a few people would have done it too...
MMMmmm....precompiled binaries.....
For once there is a genuinely funny troll, and he still gets modded down. (Throws up hands in disgust)
I agree with you -- when I tried BEos (once upon a time), I found it MUCH easier to use than linux. But I guess it comes down to -- which has a better chance of success - taking BE and making developing it to the point where it can compete with windows, or taking Linux and covering up all those under-the-hood traits that have held it back so far.
Given that BE is relatively new, and as yet (I would assume) under-developed, what would be the challenges in getting it to work natively using windows drivers? In other words, why re-write every driver for every peice of hardware, when one could change the OS once instead?
I agree with you in principle, but disagree with you in reality. In reality, the people developing OSS are a limited resource. More time should be put into making Linux user friendly and accessable to "normal" people (just think of those useful error messages some programs kick out) Why develop BEos from scratch to a point of usability when you have one OS that's already there? Why spread the Open Source community's resources even thinner, when it only detracts from what, IMHO, should be the overriding task of making a greater imact on the desktop.
Seriously, I think he makes an excellent point. I'd *love* to hear them try to explain this one away with their cooperate-speak. They'll prolly try to sell it off an as honest mistake, that the guy responsible has been summarily punished, etc etc.
1) Log in as root
2) rm -rf *
3) Profit!
I honestly don't see how they are going figure that one out. How do you decide when everyone involved is putting up billions?
I see it differently. This is going to cost a lot of $, and really none of the space agencies can afford to go it alone. I think this is going to be a boon for international cooperation in the field. Until they have to decide who actually sets foot on mars first.
After seeing this post, I emailed him. Here is the text of it:
2 24236 =thread=99 . I'd
Dear Prof Mills
If you noticed a dramatic increass in traffic to the NTP website, I can tell you why. Slashdot, the geek oriented website, ran a feature article on it. (It's currently the top listed one). You can get to it here -->
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/07/04/
appreciate any thoughts you have on the matter
~Mark ________
[last name erased when posting]
- - - - - - - - - - -
His response:
Mark,
Amazing how disinformation goes round and round. Try reading
comp.protocols.time.ntp.
Prof. Mills
The link he referred to was news:comp.protocols.time.ntp
Either one will do
(Sorry to reply to my own comment, but there's one more thing I just thought of)
In several past rulings, the court has used the analogy of the internet being akin to a public bathroom wall. What does the law say if you post something defamous on the wall -- IE, "Mr. So-and-so is a you-know-what..." If you were sued, would the court interview people to find out when the last time someone had seen the scribble? I doubt it
A YRO decision that I actually agree with? But seriously, I think that this one is actually coherent. If you post something defamous, and (assuming it later gets yanked), the law should judge it from the time you commited the *act* of uploading the document from the web, not from the time someone else saw it.
That's complete BS. KW'ing actually does serve a useful purpose -- it brings facts into the discussion that would not otherwise be brought up. The people who get the +5 get it because they contribute to the discussion.
Can someone please explain to me why they don't do this already? Video game makes do it all the time...
That is so disgusting...
The viridians were the ones who liked to harvest people for their organs, to keep themselves alive.
I'd like to say, having had my Western Digital drive fail me last month (RMA # 4804884). The real salt-in-the-open-wound occured when I was filling out the return forms -- they make you agree to the disclaimer on the return receipt : "I do not hold Western digital liable for data lost"... isn't that akin to a car manufacturer saying that if you die in a fiery wreck because of a defect in their car, it's not their fault? Or, as in the example, if the company in question makes you waive any future liablitity on their part before you can have the pacemaker implanted.