I ran 3-4 different ones, 2.2.5, 2.2.12, 2.2.14, and 2.2.15. They all died with the same problem; Supreme file system corruption. SMP+NCR835+1GB Ram+Linux == complete crap Wanna see the first inkling of a problem?
while 1 dd if=/dev/urandom of=/usr/tmp/choad1 count=10000\ & dd if=/dev/urandom of=/usr/tmp/choad2 count=10000\ & dd if=/dev/urandom of=/usr/tmp/choad3 count=10000 rm -f/usr/tmp/choad? end
let them run for about 5-10 minutes, watch your kernel panic and die. Sometimes you'll be ok, othertimes your file system will be hosed.
How much crack are you smoking? I'm replacing an entire server farm of Linux boxes with Solaris X86 and FreeBSD because of Stability and security issues, not to mention Speed.
So far my big fat E4500's, E250's and even U10's run Oracle all day, 0 downtime for 6 months. I've had to re-install *EVERY* linux box on the site because of instability. Guess which side wins out? Sun needs to get off their ass and pledge support for Solaris Itanium. It won't ever really compete with Sun's primary offering anyways, and it can only help their business.
Well, it wouldn't be that hard to make your own distro with NetBSD, but FreeBSD already has PicoBSD which would be quite well suited to the task. All you really need is a Kernel that can boot, and then mount stuff over NFS. Thats really all you need. I think everything could fit well on a 16MB partition, after that, no need for moving parts/etc.
This would actually run FreeBSD or NetBSD really well since the USB Ethernet drivers actually work. I've got one hanging off of my second desktop and it works great, the box has been up for 60 days with no burps. Granted its only 6mbps because of the USB lameness, but hey you can't really go wrong for the cheap factor. I can even take the DIMM I pulled out of my powerbook to upgrade that thing.
Currently, they teach a lot of computer theory with BSD based systems. A lot of the campus infrastructure runs with FreeBSD, and the fact that the CSRG was started there and Kirk McKusic teaches there sorta helps that along. Reviewing FreeBSD kernel code is easy because its clean, fast, and it makes sense. I've read through a few other Kernels and none of them made as much sense as the FreeBSD kernel did, maybe it shows bias, but I know quite a few people who feel that way. Every time I read through Linux source, I have to grep to find things, its pretty imposing.
The best part is that the MS Kerberos extensions *STILL* Rely on the old insecure Domain Authentication system. They actually pass tickets between machines with that. We all know how wonderful that system is, and of course how secure it is. You still won't find MS Kerberos to be useful, the only way for Win2k to correctly authenticate to a Kerberos domain, is to make it part of a guest/second domain, in which the W2k PDC is the KDC for a second domain!
Its retarded, It still relies on the old screwed up MS Security junk, which is *STILL* compatible with the ancient LanMan authentication. Something that is still easily crackable. Don't throw away that old L0phtcrack yet, there is still use for it.
About the only good thing about Win2k is that you don't *HAVE* to reboot for the almost 100 things you used to have to, now its just like 10-15 things that you do. And that its got IPSec built in, but apparently you still need to have a Win2k Cert server for that to work, so its the same old story. *sigh*
The big deal is that the Interjet has been around for *SO* long, and was a really established product before IBM bought Whistle. That thing has been around since 1996 or so, can't say the same thing for the Cobalt boxes.
Like their network maintenance window being used for its *FULL* duration, for pretty much 100% outage. Their NOC staff is a total hit and miss, I've had some *GREAT* service out of there, but you still got the guys who barely spoke english, or knew enough to check out a machine and make sure it looked ok.
I'm at AboveNet now, and I've had zero problems, except for a fiber cut that wasn't their fault. The company I'm with built their infrastructure really crappily so whenever a machine dies, its usually unrecoverable. I went from network downtime, to machine downtime, we're at about 90-95% uptime monthly, versus 98% with GC and a better setup.
I thought it was quite interesting that the student used FreeBSD to debug the hardware rather than Linux, does this mean that Hardcore CS kids use FreeBSD instead? Maybe... Most likely its just what he personally preferred to use on his desktop, why he didn't try to port NetBSD/OpenBSD is beyond me. They already have OpenBSD for the Dreamcast, N64 OpenBSD isn't too unlikely in that case.
I suggest you check out: http://slash.dotat.org:4000/go/0
Well I don't know about you, but I've worked for *LARGE* companies using both FreeBSD and Linux, and wherever possible FreeBSD prevailed. Some places it didn't because we were doing stupid things like using DBI with Oracle. But FreeBSD won out because it didn't crash all the time, didn't eat file systems (unlike 2.2.5-2.2.14 Kernels), didn't choke when it smacked into 400 to 1000 httpd processes. It didn't die when pushing Gig-E, it could actually push Gig-E to a reasonable place, it worked the shit out of our High-Performance RAID's. When FreeBSD did crash, it didn't leave the FS in a shitty state that required manual intervention like ALMOST EVERY LINUX CRASH I've ever had/seen. I still have yet to see Linux handle a crowded webserver well at all. Quite often, I had problems where the server would just drop all connected sessions, as if we had triggered some DOS protection or something. That just doesn't work in the scheme of things.
FreeBSD served our 50+ million page views per day on like 6 machines, all dynamic content. FreeBSD still serves Yahoo's inordinate traffic load. Just for kicks, I stuck a Linux box into the mix to see what would happen when we got some volume turned onto it, and it died about 30 minutes later. Thats pretty crummy, especially when it couldn't even use all of the 1GB of memory in the box, nor the SCSI adaptor correctly.
Until those kinds of things get cleared up, I still won't tell people to use Linux anywhere than the desktop. Linux certainly has its neat lil sound card drivers, X drivers, all kinds of stuff that make it useful on the desktop, but till they dump ext2fs, till they re-write the vm system, till they fix the SCSI subsystem, its not worth the pain.
BTW, FreeBSD 4.0 has support for USB Ethernet adaptors, like those on the Sony VAIO's. Linux barely supports USB, not to mention anything other than a Keyboard and Mouse. Where's that desktop now?:)
Well I don't know about you, but I've worked for *LARGE* companies using both FreeBSD and Linux, and wherever possible FreeBSD prevailed. Some places it didn't because we were doing stupid things like using DBI with Oracle. But FreeBSD won out because it didn't crash all the time, didn't eat file systems (unlike 2.2.5-2.2.14 Kernels), didn't choke when it smacked into 400 to 1000 httpd processes. It didn't die when pushing Gig-E, it could actually push Gig-E to a reasonable place, it worked the shit out of our High-Performance RAID's. When FreeBSD did crash, it didn't leave the FS in a shitty state that required manual intervention like ALMOST EVERY LINUX CRASH I've ever had/seen. I still have yet to see Linux handle a crowded webserver well at all. Quite often, I had problems where the server would just drop all connected sessions, as if we had triggered some DOS protection or something. That just doesn't work in the scheme of things. FreeBSD served our 50+ million page views per day on like 6 machines, all dynamic content. FreeBSD still serves Yahoo's inordinate traffic load. Just for kicks, I stuck a Linux box into the mix to see what would happen when we got some volume turned onto it, and it died about 30 minutes later. Thats pretty crummy, especially when it couldn't even use all of the 1GB of memory in the box, nor the SCSI adaptor correctly.
Until those kinds of things get cleared up, I still won't tell people to use Linux anywhere than the desktop. Linux certainly has its neat lil sound card drivers, X drivers, all kinds of stuff that make it useful on the desktop, but till they dump ext2fs, till they re-write the vm system, till they fix the SCSI subsystem, its not worth the pain.
BTW, FreeBSD 4.0 has support for USB Ethernet adaptors, like those on the Sony VAIO's. Linux barely supports USB, not to mention anything other than a Keyboard and Mouse. Where's that desktop now?:)
Ok, well, if you want, make your own BSD distribution, and GPL it. You can do that, the BSD license allows you to do such a thing I believe. Has anyone done it? No, because the GPL doesn't promote the truest sense of free, taking without giving. Granted its not necesarily the nicest to take and not give back, but the point is you *CAN*
Please stop plugging ancient, quasi-free technology and get back to your ancient roots: GNU/Linux Forever!
Oh please. BSD is more free than Linux because you can do whatever the hell YOU want with it, you don't have to publish your changes, you don't have to do squat. If you are a good person, you will give back. And if you were more than just a Win95 to Linux convert, you'd know that BSD is much older than Linux.
Actually, if you'd been paying attention, they used FreeBSD instead of Linux for the Rendering on the movie. If they used FreeBSD instead just for the rendering, why would they use it for the camera operation?
There are quite a few VAR's that build machines for FreeBSD, however they don't do just FreeBSD, and they don't have their own particular distro of Linux.
www.tesys.com is my favorite, they have *AWESOME* 1U rackmount boxes that run FreeBSD, Linux, NetBSD, OpenBSD and probably Winblows. www.ASAComputers.com in the SF-BA has decent stuff too. MSN-Linkexchange buys from "The Computer Store" in Mountain View, built to order with FreeBSD pre-installed. Not a big VAR, but big enough:)
No, they're not blocking 'Linux' users, they're blocking non MS/Apple users.
If you want financial services that don't care what browser you use, use Charles Schwab, I do trading there with Netscape 4.61 and FreeBSD and NetBSD. They're a much better organization IMHO.
Anyone else here ever ordered from Kozmo.com? I have an absolute 100% success rate. I hit the site, they deliver the goods within an hour, if they don't they come back with it! that simple! same thing with WebVan.com If you don't get it during delivery, you don't pay for it or they can bring it later on.
Chances are the 25% number comes from Newbies and massive stores like Amazon and B&N and all.
Anyone know where I can order Maudite or Chimay online?:)
Yes, for the bazillionth time, MS uses FreeBSD, and BSD/OS, and Solaris. Its not a big deal. How do I know and I'm not talking out my ass? I used to work there! sheesh!:)
Many of you may not remember this, but when windows95.com was launched, it ran BSD/OS 2.0 because Windows couldn't handle it. Big deal. You've all been hearing about the MS new XML initiative, guess where a shitload of development and testing went on for that, MSN-Linkexchange with FreeBSD. Of course it failed miserably due to protocol implimentation, but hey, its development thats not on Windows.
Now, I wouldn't be too suprised if MS ported IE to Linux, however don't expect Office or anything like that, they'd have to rewrite the thing from scratch almost due to all the WIN32 specific stuff. IE has already been ported to Irix and Solaris, but its not like it works the same as it does on Windows. I tried to navigate MS's intranet with IE5 for Solaris, hah! it didn't work for shit. Same thing with Outlook for Solaris, barely worked. There's a long way to go, and MS has more important places to pay attention.
Many many many people out there work at startups, where overtime is pretty much a bad word. The only commendation I'm going to get for pulling a 100 hour work week is "good job". I'm salaried at a pretty high rate, but I made a sh*tload more when I was a contractor. Next job/raise I get should put me to 90-100% of what I was making as a contractor so its not horrible, but it still feels like wage slavery sometimes.
Win2k could handle it, but it would spend 99.95% of its CPU time handling the IO, with that.05% of CPU time left, maybe you could use edlin... BSD can already handle it, check out the Juniper Networks M40. Its FreeBSD based, and can already handle a terabit, pretty snazzy stuff. To be honest, when testing Linux Gigabit stuff, it couldn't touch my BSD systems for throughput or PPS. I had 6 boxes (all exactly the same) plugged into a Cisco 3500 Gig-switch, Two with Linux, Two with FreeBSD, Two with OpenBSD. Doing a lil bit of throughput testing between the FreeBSD/OpenBSD boxes left Linux in the dust. Kinda dissapointing see how much CPU the Linux boxes were using too. Not nearly as bizzare as mounting a Linux ext2fs file system as 'sync' rather than the default. Get bonnie to write out a 1GB file and you'll be waiting for *HOURS* on a U2W 10k 9GB drive.
Well, then you gotta pay Mindcraft to do a study on it. Mindcraft is a *paid* research group. Right now Linux is getting attention because of all the hype in the media. People who use FreeBSD have usually seen through the hype, and have chosen FreeBSD for its technical merits and reputation as being Solid, Secure, and Fast.
No, I asked quite a few people actually, most had been using Linux for quite a while, and had seem to have some kind of production experince with it. Its not too hard to find that out this way in the world...
Yes, I could tune Linux, but it takes about 4 times longer. Do *you* know where to find the maximum number of processes a user can run at a time? It took RH support 5-6 tries to get this right. (ok, so RH sucks, BFD) but the bigger problem is that there wasn't any information really around on how to do it. Even though there are bazillions how HOWTO's for desktop related items, there is nothing for perf tuning that I've seen thats useful.
I don't think I'd ever reccomend Linux as a server OS actually. While you all may call me a BSD bigot or whatever, I've never seen a Linux server widthstand the pressures of the serving environments I was in. You can all say that I needed to tweak it more, and I can counter with, "ok, show me the *SINGLE* tuning point that I can use to increase performance/capacity like MAXUSERS with *BSD". I've never had anyone come back with a reasonable response.
I've never seen Linux maintain a reasonable uptime while being a heavily loaded server. I've never seen Linux's file system handle a crash well. I still don't think its secure enough for me to want to deploy anywhere than a desktop.
Anyone ever actually been to Disneyland/world/etc? Its kinda weird. They *really* spy on you when you're there. Cameras *ALL* over the rides, people watching your almost every move.
Amidst all the joyous kid things, there are people in plainclothes called the "DBI" who enforce the law of the land. If you look 'weird' you're not allowed into the park. If you're wearing a tshirt that says something unsavory (like "Eat the homeless"). If you're too pierced. If you're not living up to Disney's expectations, you're given the boot. Their utopia is no 'weirdos'.
I wasn't particularly talking about running the FW on another OS in emulation, I was talking about running the management interface. I'm in the process of purchasing one of Nokia's Firewall products (CP FW-1 on FreeBSD), but so far the management GUI is Windows only (bleh). I'd much rather use their appliance anyways:) Its a *hell* of a lot cheaper than buying just their software!
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I ran 3-4 different ones, 2.2.5, 2.2.12, 2.2.14, and 2.2.15. They all died with the same problem;
/usr/tmp/choad?
Supreme file system corruption.
SMP+NCR835+1GB Ram+Linux == complete crap
Wanna see the first inkling of a problem?
while 1
dd if=/dev/urandom of=/usr/tmp/choad1 count=10000\
&
dd if=/dev/urandom of=/usr/tmp/choad2 count=10000\
&
dd if=/dev/urandom of=/usr/tmp/choad3 count=10000
rm -f
end
let them run for about 5-10 minutes, watch your kernel panic and die. Sometimes you'll be ok, othertimes your file system will be hosed.
How much crack are you smoking?
I'm replacing an entire server farm of Linux boxes with Solaris X86 and FreeBSD because of Stability and security issues, not to mention Speed.
So far my big fat E4500's, E250's and even U10's run Oracle all day, 0 downtime for 6 months. I've had to re-install *EVERY* linux box on the site because of instability. Guess which side wins out?
Sun needs to get off their ass and pledge support for Solaris Itanium. It won't ever really compete with Sun's primary offering anyways, and it can only help their business.
Well, it wouldn't be that hard to make your own distro with NetBSD, but FreeBSD already has PicoBSD which would be quite well suited to the task. All you really need is a Kernel that can boot, and then mount stuff over NFS. Thats really all you need. I think everything could fit well on a 16MB partition, after that, no need for moving parts/etc.
This would actually run FreeBSD or NetBSD really well since the USB Ethernet drivers actually work. I've got one hanging off of my second desktop and it works great, the box has been up for 60 days with no burps. Granted its only 6mbps because of the USB lameness, but hey you can't really go wrong for the cheap factor. I can even take the DIMM I pulled out of my powerbook to upgrade that thing.
I think I'm gonna go try to buy one...
Currently, they teach a lot of computer theory with BSD based systems. A lot of the campus infrastructure runs with FreeBSD, and the fact that the CSRG was started there and Kirk McKusic teaches there sorta helps that along. Reviewing FreeBSD kernel code is easy because its clean, fast, and it makes sense. I've read through a few other Kernels and none of them made as much sense as the FreeBSD kernel did, maybe it shows bias, but I know quite a few people who feel that way.
Every time I read through Linux source, I have to grep to find things, its pretty imposing.
The best part is that the MS Kerberos extensions *STILL* Rely on the old insecure Domain Authentication system. They actually pass tickets between machines with that. We all know how wonderful that system is, and of course how secure it is. You still won't find MS Kerberos to be useful, the only way for Win2k to correctly authenticate to a Kerberos domain, is to make it part of a guest/second domain, in which the W2k PDC is the KDC for a second domain!
Its retarded, It still relies on the old screwed up MS Security junk, which is *STILL* compatible with the ancient LanMan authentication. Something that is still easily crackable. Don't throw away that old L0phtcrack yet, there is still use for it.
About the only good thing about Win2k is that you don't *HAVE* to reboot for the almost 100 things you used to have to, now its just like 10-15 things that you do. And that its got IPSec built in, but apparently you still need to have a Win2k Cert server for that to work, so its the same old story. *sigh*
The big deal is that the Interjet has been around for *SO* long, and was a really established product before IBM bought Whistle. That thing has been around since 1996 or so, can't say the same thing for the Cobalt boxes.
Like their network maintenance window being used for its *FULL* duration, for pretty much 100% outage. Their NOC staff is a total hit and miss, I've had some *GREAT* service out of there, but you still got the guys who barely spoke english, or knew enough to check out a machine and make sure it looked ok.
I'm at AboveNet now, and I've had zero problems, except for a fiber cut that wasn't their fault. The company I'm with built their infrastructure really crappily so whenever a machine dies, its usually unrecoverable. I went from network downtime, to machine downtime, we're at about 90-95% uptime monthly, versus 98% with GC and a better setup.
I thought it was quite interesting that the student used FreeBSD to debug the hardware rather than Linux, does this mean that Hardcore CS kids use FreeBSD instead? Maybe... Most likely its just what he personally preferred to use on his desktop, why he didn't try to port NetBSD/OpenBSD is beyond me. They already have OpenBSD for the Dreamcast, N64 OpenBSD isn't too unlikely in that case.
I suggest you check out:
http://slash.dotat.org:4000/go/0
Well I don't know about you, but I've worked for *LARGE* companies using both FreeBSD and Linux, and wherever possible FreeBSD prevailed. Some places it didn't because we were doing stupid things like using DBI with Oracle. But FreeBSD won out because it didn't crash all the time, didn't eat file systems (unlike 2.2.5-2.2.14 Kernels), didn't choke when it smacked into 400 to 1000 httpd processes. It didn't die when pushing Gig-E, it could actually push Gig-E to a reasonable place, it worked the shit out of our High-Performance RAID's. When FreeBSD did crash, it didn't leave the FS in a shitty state that required manual intervention like ALMOST EVERY LINUX CRASH I've ever had/seen. I still have yet to see Linux handle a crowded webserver well at all. Quite often, I had problems where the server would just drop all connected sessions, as if we had triggered some DOS protection or something. That just doesn't work in the scheme of things.
:)
FreeBSD served our 50+ million page views per day on like 6 machines, all dynamic content. FreeBSD still serves Yahoo's inordinate traffic load. Just for kicks, I stuck a Linux box into the mix to see what would happen when we got some volume turned onto it, and it died about 30 minutes later. Thats pretty crummy, especially when it couldn't even use all of the 1GB of memory in the box, nor the SCSI adaptor correctly.
Until those kinds of things get cleared up, I still won't tell people to use Linux anywhere than the desktop. Linux certainly has its neat lil sound card drivers, X drivers, all kinds of stuff that make it useful on the desktop, but till they dump ext2fs, till they re-write the vm system, till they fix the SCSI subsystem, its not worth the pain.
BTW, FreeBSD 4.0 has support for USB Ethernet adaptors, like those on the Sony VAIO's. Linux barely supports USB, not to mention anything other than a Keyboard and Mouse. Where's that desktop now?
Well I don't know about you, but I've worked for *LARGE* companies using both FreeBSD and Linux, and wherever possible FreeBSD prevailed. Some places it didn't because we were doing stupid things like using DBI with Oracle. But FreeBSD won out because it didn't crash all the time, didn't eat file systems (unlike 2.2.5-2.2.14 Kernels), didn't choke when it smacked into 400 to 1000 httpd processes. It didn't die when pushing Gig-E, it could actually push Gig-E to a reasonable place, it worked the shit out of our High-Performance RAID's. When FreeBSD did crash, it didn't leave the FS in a shitty state that required manual intervention like ALMOST EVERY LINUX CRASH I've ever had/seen. I still have yet to see Linux handle a crowded webserver well at all. Quite often, I had problems where the server would just drop all connected sessions, as if we had triggered some DOS protection or something. That just doesn't work in the scheme of things.
:)
FreeBSD served our 50+ million page views per day on like 6 machines, all dynamic content. FreeBSD still serves Yahoo's inordinate traffic load. Just for kicks, I stuck a Linux box into the mix to see what would happen when we got some volume turned onto it, and it died about 30 minutes later. Thats pretty crummy, especially when it couldn't even use all of the 1GB of memory in the box, nor the SCSI adaptor correctly.
Until those kinds of things get cleared up, I still won't tell people to use Linux anywhere than the desktop. Linux certainly has its neat lil sound card drivers, X drivers, all kinds of stuff that make it useful on the desktop, but till they dump ext2fs, till they re-write the vm system, till they fix the SCSI subsystem, its not worth the pain.
BTW, FreeBSD 4.0 has support for USB Ethernet adaptors, like those on the Sony VAIO's. Linux barely supports USB, not to mention anything other than a Keyboard and Mouse. Where's that desktop now?
Ok, well, if you want, make your own BSD distribution, and GPL it. You can do that, the BSD license allows you to do such a thing I believe. Has anyone done it? No, because the GPL doesn't promote the truest sense of free, taking without giving. Granted its not necesarily the nicest to take and not give back, but the point is you *CAN*
Please stop plugging ancient, quasi-free technology and get back to your ancient roots: GNU/Linux Forever!
Oh please. BSD is more free than Linux because you can do whatever the hell YOU want with it, you don't have to publish your changes, you don't have to do squat. If you are a good person, you will give back. And if you were more than just a Win95 to Linux convert, you'd know that BSD is much older than Linux.
Actually, if you'd been paying attention, they used FreeBSD instead of Linux for the Rendering on the movie. If they used FreeBSD instead just for the rendering, why would they use it for the camera operation?
There are quite a few VAR's that build machines
:)
for FreeBSD, however they don't do just FreeBSD, and they don't have their own particular distro of Linux.
www.tesys.com is my favorite, they have *AWESOME* 1U rackmount boxes that run FreeBSD, Linux, NetBSD, OpenBSD and probably Winblows.
www.ASAComputers.com in the SF-BA has decent stuff too.
MSN-Linkexchange buys from "The Computer Store" in Mountain View, built to order with FreeBSD pre-installed. Not a big VAR, but big enough
No, they're not blocking 'Linux' users, they're blocking non MS/Apple users.
If you want financial services that don't care what browser you use, use Charles Schwab, I do trading there with Netscape 4.61 and FreeBSD and NetBSD. They're a much better organization IMHO.
Anyone else here ever ordered from Kozmo.com?
:)
I have an absolute 100% success rate.
I hit the site, they deliver the goods within an hour, if they don't they come back with it! that simple! same thing with WebVan.com If you don't get it during delivery, you don't pay for it or they can bring it later on.
Chances are the 25% number comes from Newbies and massive stores like Amazon and B&N and all.
Anyone know where I can order Maudite or Chimay online?
Yes, for the bazillionth time, MS uses FreeBSD, and BSD/OS, and Solaris. Its not a big deal. How do I know and I'm not talking out my ass? I used to work there! sheesh! :)
Many of you may not remember this, but when windows95.com was launched, it ran BSD/OS 2.0 because Windows couldn't handle it. Big deal.
You've all been hearing about the MS new XML initiative, guess where a shitload of development and testing went on for that, MSN-Linkexchange with FreeBSD. Of course it failed miserably due to protocol implimentation, but hey, its development thats not on Windows.
Now, I wouldn't be too suprised if MS ported IE to Linux, however don't expect Office or anything like that, they'd have to rewrite the thing from scratch almost due to all the WIN32 specific stuff. IE has already been ported to Irix and Solaris, but its not like it works the same as it does on Windows. I tried to navigate MS's intranet with IE5 for Solaris, hah! it didn't work for shit. Same thing with Outlook for Solaris, barely worked. There's a long way to go, and MS has more important places to pay attention.
Many many many people out there work at startups, where overtime is pretty much a bad word. The only commendation I'm going to get for pulling a 100 hour work week is "good job". I'm salaried at a pretty high rate, but I made a sh*tload more when I was a contractor. Next job/raise I get should put me to 90-100% of what I was making as a contractor so its not horrible, but it still feels like wage slavery sometimes.
Win2k could handle it, but it would spend 99.95% of its CPU time handling the IO, with that .05% of CPU time left, maybe you could use edlin...
BSD can already handle it, check out the Juniper Networks M40. Its FreeBSD based, and can already handle a terabit, pretty snazzy stuff.
To be honest, when testing Linux Gigabit stuff, it couldn't touch my BSD systems for throughput or PPS. I had 6 boxes (all exactly the same) plugged into a Cisco 3500 Gig-switch, Two with Linux, Two with FreeBSD, Two with OpenBSD. Doing a lil bit of throughput testing between the FreeBSD/OpenBSD boxes left Linux in the dust. Kinda dissapointing see how much CPU the Linux boxes were using too.
Not nearly as bizzare as mounting a Linux ext2fs file system as 'sync' rather than the default. Get bonnie to write out a 1GB file and you'll be waiting for *HOURS* on a U2W 10k 9GB drive.
Well, then you gotta pay Mindcraft to do a study on it. Mindcraft is a *paid* research group. Right now Linux is getting attention because of all the hype in the media. People who use FreeBSD have usually seen through the hype, and have chosen FreeBSD for its technical merits and reputation as being Solid, Secure, and Fast.
No, I asked quite a few people actually, most had been using Linux for quite a while, and had seem to have some kind of production experince with it. Its not too hard to find that out this way in the world...
Yes, I could tune Linux, but it takes about 4 times longer. Do *you* know where to find the maximum number of processes a user can run at a time? It took RH support 5-6 tries to get this right. (ok, so RH sucks, BFD) but the bigger problem is that there wasn't any information really around on how to do it. Even though there are bazillions how HOWTO's for desktop related items, there is nothing for perf tuning that I've seen thats useful.
I don't think I'd ever reccomend Linux as a server OS actually. While you all may call me a BSD bigot or whatever, I've never seen a Linux server widthstand the pressures of the serving environments I was in. You can all say that I needed to tweak it more, and I can counter with, "ok, show me the *SINGLE* tuning point that I can use to increase performance/capacity like MAXUSERS with *BSD". I've never had anyone come back with a reasonable response.
I've never seen Linux maintain a reasonable uptime while being a heavily loaded server. I've never seen Linux's file system handle a crash well. I still don't think its secure enough for me to want to deploy anywhere than a desktop.
Anyone ever actually been to Disneyland/world/etc?
Its kinda weird. They *really* spy on you when you're there. Cameras *ALL* over the rides, people watching your almost every move.
Amidst all the joyous kid things, there are people in plainclothes called the "DBI" who enforce the law of the land. If you look 'weird' you're not allowed into the park. If you're wearing a tshirt that says something unsavory (like "Eat the homeless"). If you're too pierced. If you're not living up to Disney's expectations, you're given the boot. Their utopia is no 'weirdos'.
I wasn't particularly talking about running the FW on another OS in emulation, I was talking about running the management interface. I'm in the process of purchasing one of Nokia's Firewall products (CP FW-1 on FreeBSD), but so far the management GUI is Windows only (bleh). I'd much rather use their appliance anyways :) Its a *hell* of a lot cheaper than buying just their software!