Asia is going to push ahead sooner or later - it's a pretty simple numbers game. Because you are right, the West doesn't have a monopoly on intelligence and creativity.
It seems to me that we would do well to plan with this in mind, rather than trying to think that somehow we need to stay "number 1". Plans need to be based on reality if they are going to have any chance of succeeding.
I thought it was interesting that you bring up a nationwide education policy. I think an argument could be made that local control is important to successful education. In fact I would argue that our largest problem is that people now look outside and up for standards and solutions. There isn't a high level of involvement where it counts most, with those directly in contact with the students.
I'd buy an unlocked Nexus S and not get a contract for it. Not as big as a tablet but it would be an awesome platform for playing around with Android and at some point if you wanted the phone portion too that would be trivial to activate.
I know that's outside the parameters of your question but I thought I'd throw it out there.
Exactly. The telcos have no business snooping around in what I do on the web.
Imagine if they did this to voice. Calling work is premium, immediate relatives sort of premium but distant relatives we'll give you at the base rate. You can call our business partners for a reduced rate, calling our competitors will cost triple.
You have any examples? I'm on t-mobile and I've never run across this. It wouldn't surprise me and I'm not saying you are wrong, would just like to test it out myself.
I think we all understand that bits from some sites clog up more of the tubes than bits from other sites. I know netflix bits are much heavier than fluffy fark bits.
We all new the free ride couldn't go on for ever, shoving our super dense bittorrent bits down the pipes to the detriment of all the innocent cnn.com users and their non-obstructive bits.
Finally my telco can start making real money, like they deserve after all these years of selflessly giving away bandwidth.
The people I've talked to are not closing their accounts - they are exporting their bookmarks, looking for options, and waiting to see what happens. The fact that Diigo has been completely overwhelmed since the news broke makes me think something like this is happening a lot.
That's true - I just used it as a handy way to store and sync my bookmarks. Their firefox plugin is really nice.
After reading yesterdays thread, I set up an account with Diigo. I went through the import process roughly 24 hours ago - it still hasn't finished. They say they are experiencing heavy loads that have slowed things down. That's not too encouraging really. But I'm really thinking about setting up Scuttle and just using my own site.
I did like browsing what other people were bookmarking on delicious at first, but pretty much quit when everything I would see there was the same stuff I was seeing at slashdot/reddit/digg, etc. I never dug deeper than that.
I would think for people like you the key would be to find out what the people you are interested in will do, as opposed to what will happen with delicious. I'd be more confident that delicious would continue on if they hadn't fired everybody. What are the odds someone will buy the software but keep it going the same without any of the people?
This doesn't really change anything for me. They fired their people, and now issue a vague statement that implies they are looking for a buyer. So what? And they are disappointed that it got out, but I'm not. It gave me warning I might not have had otherwise.
Spirit Tracks would suck on your phone compared to the DS - unless they sold it with a stylus that worked with your phone.
And if my DS goes dead and there is no charger around - no big deal. With my phone? Not so much. And not much else kills my phone battery like playing games.
It is possible to deprive people of their rights because a significant number think it is proper. Whether it should be that or way or not is immaterial. That's why it took so much time and effort to get things to where they are now in regards to civil liberties and why we still have so far to go. We wouldn't be where we are if it weren't for the fact that more people wanted change than didn't.
In the case of file sharing the situation is flipped. No one but a very small group who derive gross benefit from restricting file sharing want it stopped.
Point 1 is not harm, it's good. Have you looked at what the music industry does to artists with those contracts?
2 - it being "bad" doesn't constitute harm.
3 is wrong. There's no "supply" of digital files. The amount professionals get payed has nothing to do with file sharing. Your thinking seems to be following the logical error that shared files are equal to lost sales.
Yeah - this is news to some people, which just confirms how out of touch many government and business leaders are.
I think it's safe to say that as much as they've tried, people can see that file sharing causes no harm. I don't think it's anything new that people ignore laws with no underpinnings in reality.
I don't think the procedures are gaining me any real safety so that's the crux of it I guess. You think the measures buy safety and I think it's primarily a way to enrich and empower certain people who are using security as an excuse.
I don't know of any way to know which of us is right. We don't have any manner of comparing outcomes in the various options available.
You are incorrect. I didn't like it before but it was primarily a nuisance. Now they've instituted new policies that violate my mores. You can argue all day that I'm incorrect for feeling the way I do (it's already been done above) but the bottom line is that I experience these things on a visceral level. I'll take my shoes off, put my laptop in it's own bin, fit all my gel and toothpaste in a little bag, etc. It's stupid and annoying but I can deal.
When I'm told my choices are to either be photographed naked or be felt up, I start losing the ability to be detached and unemotional. When it's my kids that are facing this choice then I'm really upset. It's the culture I grew up in that these things are completely wrong. I've spent time explaining to my children that there are places where no one is to ever touch them, that if they do they are to tell me immediately. Now I'm supposed to let some flunky with TSA do it to me right in front of them, and to them as soon as they turn 12.
Feel free to mock my upbringing all day, I can't go back in time and grow up in a completely different culture.
And if anyone could show that any of it makes sense or is effective - I'd take a stab at trying to change the way I think about it. But since the whole things is a bad joke, I'll stick with trying to change the policy rather than myself.
So is it all because there's a democrat in the Whitehouse? No - that's ridiculous. I voted for that man. I voted for Napalitano when she ran for Governor of AZ. She did a good job. Is it "prurience"? If you want to put it that way but I'm not sure why that's something that should be thrown aside just because you have a different set of values.
I can't see a single problem with your plan. It's going to go great - and I recommend recording the whole thing on video so that we can all watch it afterword.
I think one issue is that the majority of people don't fly. It's hard to get people motivated to change something that they don't view as having a direct impact on their lives. I fly enough that I'm very upset with the TSA, have been for a while, but I don't have much in the way of hopes that it will change any time soon. There's too much money involved now.
We are going to be retiring Hornets much faster than we are bringing anything new on-line to replace them. (I was in the Navy - spend more time hanging out with Navy folks so I'm more familiar with their situation). I don't know how it compares for the zoomers - but the USN, unless something changes will be putting more and more workload onto fewer aircraft and people in the years to come.
This is from last year but I haven't seen anything to make me believe the situation has improved.
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Asia is going to push ahead sooner or later - it's a pretty simple numbers game. Because you are right, the West doesn't have a monopoly on intelligence and creativity.
It seems to me that we would do well to plan with this in mind, rather than trying to think that somehow we need to stay "number 1". Plans need to be based on reality if they are going to have any chance of succeeding.
I thought it was interesting that you bring up a nationwide education policy. I think an argument could be made that local control is important to successful education. In fact I would argue that our largest problem is that people now look outside and up for standards and solutions. There isn't a high level of involvement where it counts most, with those directly in contact with the students.
the fact that you don't think it's a loose-loose situation makes it win-win for me.
loser
looser is an adjective
I was born in Kalamazoo.
Used to have a t-shirt that said, "Yes, there really is a Kalamazoo."
And I don't know about Danes or Norwegians, but that's Dutch country down there in South-West Michigan.
pause, and think a moment before you run that cow through the wood chipper.
I'd buy an unlocked Nexus S and not get a contract for it. Not as big as a tablet but it would be an awesome platform for playing around with Android and at some point if you wanted the phone portion too that would be trivial to activate.
I know that's outside the parameters of your question but I thought I'd throw it out there.
a glimpse of the future - when the only way to get "apps" on any computer have to come from the company store.
Exactly. The telcos have no business snooping around in what I do on the web.
Imagine if they did this to voice. Calling work is premium, immediate relatives sort of premium but distant relatives we'll give you at the base rate. You can call our business partners for a reduced rate, calling our competitors will cost triple.
You have any examples? I'm on t-mobile and I've never run across this. It wouldn't surprise me and I'm not saying you are wrong, would just like to test it out myself.
I think we all understand that bits from some sites clog up more of the tubes than bits from other sites. I know netflix bits are much heavier than fluffy fark bits.
We all new the free ride couldn't go on for ever, shoving our super dense bittorrent bits down the pipes to the detriment of all the innocent cnn.com users and their non-obstructive bits.
Finally my telco can start making real money, like they deserve after all these years of selflessly giving away bandwidth.
The people I've talked to are not closing their accounts - they are exporting their bookmarks, looking for options, and waiting to see what happens. The fact that Diigo has been completely overwhelmed since the news broke makes me think something like this is happening a lot.
That's true - I just used it as a handy way to store and sync my bookmarks. Their firefox plugin is really nice.
After reading yesterdays thread, I set up an account with Diigo. I went through the import process roughly 24 hours ago - it still hasn't finished. They say they are experiencing heavy loads that have slowed things down. That's not too encouraging really. But I'm really thinking about setting up Scuttle and just using my own site.
I did like browsing what other people were bookmarking on delicious at first, but pretty much quit when everything I would see there was the same stuff I was seeing at slashdot/reddit/digg, etc. I never dug deeper than that.
I would think for people like you the key would be to find out what the people you are interested in will do, as opposed to what will happen with delicious. I'd be more confident that delicious would continue on if they hadn't fired everybody. What are the odds someone will buy the software but keep it going the same without any of the people?
This doesn't really change anything for me. They fired their people, and now issue a vague statement that implies they are looking for a buyer. So what? And they are disappointed that it got out, but I'm not. It gave me warning I might not have had otherwise.
It was a pretty day for it. Cool - clear sky.
Looked very normal, which was very encouraging. I look forward to seeing more of them.
Spirit Tracks would suck on your phone compared to the DS - unless they sold it with a stylus that worked with your phone.
And if my DS goes dead and there is no charger around - no big deal. With my phone? Not so much. And not much else kills my phone battery like playing games.
Indeed, what did happen to them? If they are in the process of rebranding it would be nice if someone wrote an article about it so that we would know.
not just the end of KDE - but the end of all life on earth!
What a stupid headline. Page views, clicks, etc. Yeah I know.
It is possible to deprive people of their rights because a significant number think it is proper. Whether it should be that or way or not is immaterial. That's why it took so much time and effort to get things to where they are now in regards to civil liberties and why we still have so far to go. We wouldn't be where we are if it weren't for the fact that more people wanted change than didn't.
In the case of file sharing the situation is flipped. No one but a very small group who derive gross benefit from restricting file sharing want it stopped.
Point 1 is not harm, it's good. Have you looked at what the music industry does to artists with those contracts?
2 - it being "bad" doesn't constitute harm.
3 is wrong. There's no "supply" of digital files. The amount professionals get payed has nothing to do with file sharing. Your thinking seems to be following the logical error that shared files are equal to lost sales.
Yeah - this is news to some people, which just confirms how out of touch many government and business leaders are.
I think it's safe to say that as much as they've tried, people can see that file sharing causes no harm. I don't think it's anything new that people ignore laws with no underpinnings in reality.
I don't think the procedures are gaining me any real safety so that's the crux of it I guess. You think the measures buy safety and I think it's primarily a way to enrich and empower certain people who are using security as an excuse.
I don't know of any way to know which of us is right. We don't have any manner of comparing outcomes in the various options available.
You are incorrect. I didn't like it before but it was primarily a nuisance. Now they've instituted new policies that violate my mores. You can argue all day that I'm incorrect for feeling the way I do (it's already been done above) but the bottom line is that I experience these things on a visceral level. I'll take my shoes off, put my laptop in it's own bin, fit all my gel and toothpaste in a little bag, etc. It's stupid and annoying but I can deal.
When I'm told my choices are to either be photographed naked or be felt up, I start losing the ability to be detached and unemotional. When it's my kids that are facing this choice then I'm really upset. It's the culture I grew up in that these things are completely wrong. I've spent time explaining to my children that there are places where no one is to ever touch them, that if they do they are to tell me immediately. Now I'm supposed to let some flunky with TSA do it to me right in front of them, and to them as soon as they turn 12.
Feel free to mock my upbringing all day, I can't go back in time and grow up in a completely different culture.
And if anyone could show that any of it makes sense or is effective - I'd take a stab at trying to change the way I think about it. But since the whole things is a bad joke, I'll stick with trying to change the policy rather than myself.
So is it all because there's a democrat in the Whitehouse? No - that's ridiculous. I voted for that man. I voted for Napalitano when she ran for Governor of AZ. She did a good job. Is it "prurience"? If you want to put it that way but I'm not sure why that's something that should be thrown aside just because you have a different set of values.
I can't see a single problem with your plan. It's going to go great - and I recommend recording the whole thing on video so that we can all watch it afterword.
I think one issue is that the majority of people don't fly. It's hard to get people motivated to change something that they don't view as having a direct impact on their lives. I fly enough that I'm very upset with the TSA, have been for a while, but I don't have much in the way of hopes that it will change any time soon. There's too much money involved now.
We are going to be retiring Hornets much faster than we are bringing anything new on-line to replace them. (I was in the Navy - spend more time hanging out with Navy folks so I'm more familiar with their situation). I don't know how it compares for the zoomers - but the USN, unless something changes will be putting more and more workload onto fewer aircraft and people in the years to come.
This is from last year but I haven't seen anything to make me believe the situation has improved.