the info page says it is in rawhide - but I've run into trouble mixing the rawhide repos in with the stable - so I'll just wait. Even if I did have to wait until F13, it wont be that long. I was skipping every other Fedora release for a while because they come so quick but the last few have all had something that I just didn't want to wait to get. MySQL Workbench pushed me onto 12 and this might speed my move to 13.
I think 4.3 is pretty great. I'm running 4.3.5 on Fedora 12 and it's probably my favorite KDE yet. Sure they had to step back to move forward, but sometimes that is absolutely necessary if the current foundation is impossible to support the desired end state.
Fortunately Linux users have a lot of choices, and it will cost you nothing more than time and bandwidth to see if you want to return to KDE or stay on Gnome. Or don't put even that into it and keep using what works for you. Not sure why anyone has to "lay low" or anything like it.
I had to leave the house with about 7 minutes to go. They've added some new houses to our neighborhood and I like to walk past them to get a better view. When the sky to the east lights up, I think that is my favorite part. Though I do enjoy when the boosters separate as well.
That's weird. I could swear the shuttle performed a rather significant mission recently that did not involve going to the space station.
I have to confess, while watching the launch this morning I didn't really care about what's practical or needed. A night launch of the shuttle is the most impressive feat of human engineering I have ever witnessed. When I was a kid working on an aircraft carrier I thought that was pretty cool, and it is to some extent, but the shuttle is in a completely different league of awesome. Lighting up the night sky is not hyperbole. I live an hour drive from Kennedy and it looks like the sun is coming up when they fire the engines. Then, when the shuttle lifts from the pad, it gets even brighter. Which my head has a difficult time taking in. I'll be sad to see it go, even if it does make sense.
Yeah - I think ssids are pretty interesting. Someone should collect good ones. If I've thought of it now, there's probably a site that's been doing just that for a while.
They wont know what it's called but they have a good chance of knowing that they need to "give their wireless a name and password". I can see anywhere from 5 to 8 wireless networks from my home on any given day. All have non default ssids and passwords. I doubt they were all set up by IT professionals. My guess is a lot of 'regular' folks have clued in.
At least the price isn't too crazy. But you are right, I'd need to be doing full time professional work to move away from Netbeans.
And even then I still might not do it, as Netbeans supports so many languages and platforms. If I were working all the time in one language I could see an IDE focused on that language. But the reality is that day to day I'm dealing with a multitude of languages and platforms.
You might want to look at MySQL Workbench. I've been messing with it a bit for a couple weeks and really like it so far. I'm running it on Fedora but there is an OSX release.
Two of the top choices are free and open. I don't know how people who build proprietary tools are going to stay in business. It's not like the commercial stuff crushed the open stuff in this comparison. I've moved to Netbeans for pretty much everything. It's a solid, multiplatform solution and the open nature is very nice. Komodo is built on an open editor, but moving up to the full featured IDE is pretty pricey. At $399 a pop I've never tried Zend Studio and based on this - I don't think I'm missing much.
You're right but under real conditions my Acer doesn't get the 6 hours they advertise either. So I'm assuming that the ipad can last longer - even though I don't know what the real battery life times are.
I'm ruling it out for stuff described in the summary. What you are saying makes sense but then it becomes something that already exists in a number of other formats. Me, I'll stick with my DS.
We are talking about 2 different things. You are talking about the ipad and I was talking about the MSI tablet - I think that is worth noting.
It's not a stupid comparison. While they are different in some ways, they are more similar in their aims and capabilities than they are different. As far as "Market space" - I don't care how something is advertised I'm going to decide based on capabilities and uses.
Comparing a boat to a car? Really? More like comparing a boat to a jet ski and the jet ski costs more than the boat. For some the jet ski makes sense even if it costs more, for me it wouldn't.
But enough with the metaphors. Here's the bottom line, the question was "Still, would an Android-powered iPad-alike tempt you?" And the answer is no it wouldn't. Then I gave a few reasons. My reasons aren't stupid, they are mine.
You should relax, think about being a bit less rude and confrontational. You can keep being an ass, it's your right - but I'm just suggesting you think about it.
I know Scrabble is one where I certainly want to be able to take in the whole board at once. And I want to be looking at different parts than the other players, without them knowing what I'm focused on.
The desire to keep what I'm looking at to myself is true of a lot of games.
I'd like to see one of these table sized interfaces we've seen used this way. I know it's been done with d&d. That would be cool for board games.
I don't know - I just know that's how it is. If I can't see outside I get sick. I can't read, play video games, do stuff with my phone, etc.
None of this bothers me on an airplane.
I don't know why. I first noticed it when I was in my early 20's. A friend loaned me his gameboy and I was playing Tetris while riding a bus. I almost threw up.
I don't think I play a single board game with a board that small. Zoom in and out? Scroll around? Everything smaller? No thanks. A lot of my board game time is great just because I'm unplugged anyway.
If I were alone, maybe then I could see it. The less than ideal experience would be o.k. compared to not being able to play at all. But to sit around with phones out to 'hold' tiles and play the game on a little screen doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
As much as it sucks being stuck in those little seats, especially on long flights, I don't begrudge anyone who does anything they can to be more comfortable.
And with my smaller traveling laptop it's no longer an inconvenience to me when they do it.
If the other tablets end up being pricey and don't do what you want - there are tons of machines coming out that sit between netbook and notebook. The Acer I mentioned is a good one I think, but not the only one. They have more guts than a netbook, little bit bigger display too. My acer can play hi-def movies and they look great. It has hdmi and vga out. It has usb ports if I need an optical drive. And it has a media card reader that handles the popular stuff. All in all it gives me everything I need in a compact package at a low cost.
I use OpenOffice.org on it, watch movies with VLC, play Battle for Wesnoth without issue, etc. The sound is decent, the screen looks great and this thing was retailing at under $400 when I bought it. I think it has gone up a touch at Amazon since I got mine but is just over $400 now.
To give up a lot of the features a tablet wouldn't have and pay more just doesn't make sense to me. And I don't have to hold this to watch stuff. I just set it up and put it on my lap or some nearby surface.
It doesn't have touch (though it does have a multi-touch track pad) or accelerometers. It has 802.11n but no built in mobile radio, but like you I don't care about that and it would be easy to add on if I did. But the list of things it doesn't have compared to what it does make it remain a bit of a no-brainer for me.
Oh and my battery life is lower too - with my 6 cell it is rated for 6 hours but if I'm watching movies or doing a lot of other stuff it will be lower. So the tablets have that if the others can come in with a 10 hour battery life like the iPad.
I've never set in the cockpit of an airplane - but when sitting in coach - regardless of being aisle, window or middle - I have a hard time using my laptop. I can open it but can't comfortably type and when the person in front of me pushes their seat back it gets worse.
No - it stays cool. It's a really nice little machine that runs much better than I expected. I bought it intending to do no more than browse, email and watch movies but I've ended up putting OpenOffice.org on it and a few other 'heavier' apps that all run fine and it is the only machine I bring with me when I travel now.
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I think that's the first time I've seen coaches come out and say their athletes wouldn't compete until conditions were improved.
the info page says it is in rawhide - but I've run into trouble mixing the rawhide repos in with the stable - so I'll just wait. Even if I did have to wait until F13, it wont be that long. I was skipping every other Fedora release for a while because they come so quick but the last few have all had something that I just didn't want to wait to get. MySQL Workbench pushed me onto 12 and this might speed my move to 13.
I think 4.3 is pretty great. I'm running 4.3.5 on Fedora 12 and it's probably my favorite KDE yet. Sure they had to step back to move forward, but sometimes that is absolutely necessary if the current foundation is impossible to support the desired end state.
Fortunately Linux users have a lot of choices, and it will cost you nothing more than time and bandwidth to see if you want to return to KDE or stay on Gnome. Or don't put even that into it and keep using what works for you. Not sure why anyone has to "lay low" or anything like it.
Looking forward to when this rolls out to Fedora 12.
I don't doubt that this is true.
I had to leave the house with about 7 minutes to go. They've added some new houses to our neighborhood and I like to walk past them to get a better view. When the sky to the east lights up, I think that is my favorite part. Though I do enjoy when the boosters separate as well.
That's weird. I could swear the shuttle performed a rather significant mission recently that did not involve going to the space station.
I have to confess, while watching the launch this morning I didn't really care about what's practical or needed. A night launch of the shuttle is the most impressive feat of human engineering I have ever witnessed. When I was a kid working on an aircraft carrier I thought that was pretty cool, and it is to some extent, but the shuttle is in a completely different league of awesome. Lighting up the night sky is not hyperbole. I live an hour drive from Kennedy and it looks like the sun is coming up when they fire the engines. Then, when the shuttle lifts from the pad, it gets even brighter. Which my head has a difficult time taking in. I'll be sad to see it go, even if it does make sense.
Yeah - I think ssids are pretty interesting. Someone should collect good ones. If I've thought of it now, there's probably a site that's been doing just that for a while.
They wont know what it's called but they have a good chance of knowing that they need to "give their wireless a name and password". I can see anywhere from 5 to 8 wireless networks from my home on any given day. All have non default ssids and passwords. I doubt they were all set up by IT professionals. My guess is a lot of 'regular' folks have clued in.
At least the price isn't too crazy. But you are right, I'd need to be doing full time professional work to move away from Netbeans.
And even then I still might not do it, as Netbeans supports so many languages and platforms. If I were working all the time in one language I could see an IDE focused on that language. But the reality is that day to day I'm dealing with a multitude of languages and platforms.
You might want to look at MySQL Workbench. I've been messing with it a bit for a couple weeks and really like it so far. I'm running it on Fedora but there is an OSX release.
Two of the top choices are free and open. I don't know how people who build proprietary tools are going to stay in business. It's not like the commercial stuff crushed the open stuff in this comparison. I've moved to Netbeans for pretty much everything. It's a solid, multiplatform solution and the open nature is very nice. Komodo is built on an open editor, but moving up to the full featured IDE is pretty pricey. At $399 a pop I've never tried Zend Studio and based on this - I don't think I'm missing much.
You're right but under real conditions my Acer doesn't get the 6 hours they advertise either. So I'm assuming that the ipad can last longer - even though I don't know what the real battery life times are.
I'm ruling it out for stuff described in the summary. What you are saying makes sense but then it becomes something that already exists in a number of other formats. Me, I'll stick with my DS.
Not me. I was all over it - as they were cheap. If I'm gonna get less, I want to pay less. That's all it boils down to.
I'll be all for it when it happens.
I write emails on my phone when I'm on the move. And once again - I'm not comparing my notebook to the ipad.
The ipad isn't even worth putting into the same conversation as an actual general purpose computer. It's a locked down, over priced toy.
I'm comparing my Acer to what I'm reading about the MSI tablet.
We are talking about 2 different things. You are talking about the ipad and I was talking about the MSI tablet - I think that is worth noting.
It's not a stupid comparison. While they are different in some ways, they are more similar in their aims and capabilities than they are different. As far as "Market space" - I don't care how something is advertised I'm going to decide based on capabilities and uses.
Comparing a boat to a car? Really? More like comparing a boat to a jet ski and the jet ski costs more than the boat. For some the jet ski makes sense even if it costs more, for me it wouldn't.
But enough with the metaphors. Here's the bottom line, the question was "Still, would an Android-powered iPad-alike tempt you?" And the answer is no it wouldn't. Then I gave a few reasons. My reasons aren't stupid, they are mine.
You should relax, think about being a bit less rude and confrontational. You can keep being an ass, it's your right - but I'm just suggesting you think about it.
I know Scrabble is one where I certainly want to be able to take in the whole board at once. And I want to be looking at different parts than the other players, without them knowing what I'm focused on.
The desire to keep what I'm looking at to myself is true of a lot of games.
I'd like to see one of these table sized interfaces we've seen used this way. I know it's been done with d&d. That would be cool for board games.
I don't know - I just know that's how it is. If I can't see outside I get sick. I can't read, play video games, do stuff with my phone, etc.
None of this bothers me on an airplane.
I don't know why. I first noticed it when I was in my early 20's. A friend loaned me his gameboy and I was playing Tetris while riding a bus. I almost threw up.
How is less than 10 inches perfect?
I don't think I play a single board game with a board that small. Zoom in and out? Scroll around? Everything smaller? No thanks. A lot of my board game time is great just because I'm unplugged anyway.
If I were alone, maybe then I could see it. The less than ideal experience would be o.k. compared to not being able to play at all. But to sit around with phones out to 'hold' tiles and play the game on a little screen doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
As much as it sucks being stuck in those little seats, especially on long flights, I don't begrudge anyone who does anything they can to be more comfortable.
And with my smaller traveling laptop it's no longer an inconvenience to me when they do it.
If the other tablets end up being pricey and don't do what you want - there are tons of machines coming out that sit between netbook and notebook. The Acer I mentioned is a good one I think, but not the only one. They have more guts than a netbook, little bit bigger display too. My acer can play hi-def movies and they look great. It has hdmi and vga out. It has usb ports if I need an optical drive. And it has a media card reader that handles the popular stuff. All in all it gives me everything I need in a compact package at a low cost.
I use OpenOffice.org on it, watch movies with VLC, play Battle for Wesnoth without issue, etc. The sound is decent, the screen looks great and this thing was retailing at under $400 when I bought it. I think it has gone up a touch at Amazon since I got mine but is just over $400 now.
To give up a lot of the features a tablet wouldn't have and pay more just doesn't make sense to me. And I don't have to hold this to watch stuff. I just set it up and put it on my lap or some nearby surface.
It doesn't have touch (though it does have a multi-touch track pad) or accelerometers. It has 802.11n but no built in mobile radio, but like you I don't care about that and it would be easy to add on if I did. But the list of things it doesn't have compared to what it does make it remain a bit of a no-brainer for me.
Oh and my battery life is lower too - with my 6 cell it is rated for 6 hours but if I'm watching movies or doing a lot of other stuff it will be lower. So the tablets have that if the others can come in with a 10 hour battery life like the iPad.
I've never set in the cockpit of an airplane - but when sitting in coach - regardless of being aisle, window or middle - I have a hard time using my laptop. I can open it but can't comfortably type and when the person in front of me pushes their seat back it gets worse.
No - it stays cool. It's a really nice little machine that runs much better than I expected. I bought it intending to do no more than browse, email and watch movies but I've ended up putting OpenOffice.org on it and a few other 'heavier' apps that all run fine and it is the only machine I bring with me when I travel now.