Personally - if it were my band, i'd just stick it out there to download and then allow people to pay if they want. like with that last harvey danger cd. but it's not my band, so i'd do like mentioned above and set up some normal shopping cart site for software. that is what they are selling.
i think i'd call my band urban legend if that hasn't been taken before. i wonder if you could use the phrase 'u.l. listed' without getting sued if it was for artistic use. i think that would be pretty fun. unfortunately i have absolutely no musical talent, i'm middle aged and over weight. not really the recipe for a rock star. i think i could find ways around the lack of talent, but not the other two.
here's my guess - he means they can download it but can't just email someone else the link. no controls on the file they actually get. so to download it from the band site, they must pay. what they do after that is up to them.
and when you frame it that way, this question can be answered by making it broader. what software allows you to charge someone to download a file? that's it. the music part is really irrelevant.
Chacham Cow It was a morning just like any other morning In the Sinai desert, 1200 B.S. (Before Slashdot) It glistened, it glowed, it rose from the gold of the children of Israel...and most of the adults The chacham cow! The golden chacham cow had a body like the great cows of ancient Egypt And a face like the face of Cowboy Neal...without the horns And through the centuries it has roamed the earth Like a ravenous bovine Seeking whom it may lick chacham cow! From the valley of the shadow of fark To the on-line gambling boutique From the depths of youtube To the custom style sheet The chacham cow lurks The chacham cow lurks Who loves you, baby? Who'll give you good karma? Who says you'll regret it? Aaa-ooooooo Who loves you, baby? Who'll give you mod points? Who says you'll regret it? Aaa-aaa-aaa-ooooooo I was in love and I needed the clicks And then I needed more clicks I was filthy rich and all I wanted were more page views...and a few more clicks Woe to you, proud mortal Secure in your modest digs You think you're immune? You, who couldn't finger said cow in a police line-up with the three little pigs! chacham cow! Master of disguises! Who's gonna change shape at will? Who's the eye on the pyramid on the back of the dollar bill? Who loves power lunchin' from boing-boing to digg? Who loves you, baby? chacham cow comin' to get ya Why? Cuz you think this is stupid, don't you? The chacham cow will not be mocked! The chacham cow's planning a coup! The chacham cow chews cud bigger than you! Woe, woe, woe to you Who blow off this warning Perhaps you've already been licked I, too, was hypnotized By those big cow eyes The last time I uttered those four little words "I deserve better editors!"
so now i've got 2 oracle employees telling me 2 different things. which has been happening a lot. ask a peoplesoft person what is going to happen with peoplesoft, and then ask an oracle person what is going to happen with peoplesoft. you'll see what i mean.
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you are right. i was in a discussion with someone at oracle about this a couple weeks ago - he was teaching a class, and one of the students brought up your point. the oracle instructor kind of blew it off, but let's say they do have their own distro. are they going to manage it for all the hardware out there too? there's a post above about how right now their implementation was dell/redhat/oracle. where i work it is a little simpler as we have the same vendor for the hardware and os (ibm/aix) but then there is oracle on top of that and the issues that come with it.
so i think if they do come up with a distro of their own, that eventually hardware can't be too far behind. this would also work on up the chain with their app servers, their people soft stuff, the siebel stuff, etc.
This is merely a theory thrown out by the instructor of my class. Just some dude who works for Oracle. So I have no idea what Oracle is seriously considering. But I personally agree with the guy that it could make all kinds of sense for Oracle to do so if they are serious about having their own distro.
I personally would love to see it since they'd have to fix OEM to work better with a non-IE browser.
On a side note, when I took the class, all the workstations that we used to do the lab portions were running red hat enterprise.
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Sounds good to me. Monoculture is a real problem and what you just described sounds like a way to avoid it somewhat, not across various organizations but within one.
I took an Oracle University class a couple weeks ago. (I'm in the process of learning to be an Oracle DBA - it was the admin 1 workshop) and the instructor said that right now their target platform for development is sun. he was joking how, 'Larry didn't like Sun there for a while, but now he likes them again so they are our target.'
But he also seemed to think that Oracle would start rolling their own OS -- and brought up more than once that by acquiring Novell, they would pick up Suse. This seems to me like it might be the case.
microfocus cobol -- i was an admin for an app written in it. might be the only one in the world, but i doubt it.
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because the people who want them have probably already bought e-books they would like to continue reading. but they are in closed formats. and the stuff you buy for this in closed formats will suffer the same fate.
drm and closed formats are why i wont touch any commercially available e-books. the people publishing them are so worried about protecting their intellectual property that they make they property worthless to me. (Just ran into this the other day with a Sybex book - it came with a pdf on a disc, but I can't view it because they have drm in there that is busted. their support people told me to uninstall my current version of reader and install the one on the disc that is 2 or 3 versions back- i don't think i'm going to do that)
someday - when you can buy a cheap e-book reader that will support a common format that i can purchase - or get from the library - or share with friends, then i'll think about buying in. basically i want to be able to do all that i can do with regular books now.
last night a street sweeper woke me up. 1:00 - 1:30 a.m. really annoying. for breakfast yesterday i had vanilla yogurt and a glass of low sodium v-8. (not simultaneously) today i overslept because of the street sweeper and blew off breakfast, but i just had chips and salsa that someone brought in. it was o.k. but the guy who makes it always goes mild because people around here can't handle spicy. but hey, it was free.
I live in South East Orlando. The Lake Hart area. The prior landing before that was easy to hear in my office building- so I assumed it was that way pretty much throughout town.
there was a boom that rattled the windows of the house. my wife said, "what was that?". i wasn't sure - still half asleep and then she said, "oh, the shuttle is back". went back to sleep happy that they made it back safe.
i do believe it and i don't think people would pay to see your examples. if they would, you'd probably see it done. and i wouldn't really have a problem with it. but i think the major disconnect here, from the comments i've gotten in the thread are that a lot of people see star trek as an important piece of art and i don't. but beyond that -- rehashing classics has been around for a really long time. technology has just spead up the turn-around.
i'm just playing. i've seen so much 'horror' in the last month or so over star wars and now this that i'm just really tired of it. read down in this thread and see where a '60s sci-fi show is compared to the mona lisa or classic literature. it blows my mind.
for the same reason they made the show in the first place -- to get people to watch (and more will with the 'new' graphics) and make money selling advertising. i'm amazed at how many people here seem to think that star trek came to be as something other than a commercial venture first and everything else is incidental.
i guess you could argue that roddenberry somehow used the system to slip something worthwhile through -- but bottom line is it only existed as long as it was perceived as a means of generating cash.
You are very confused on the concept. Making money is the point and you readily admit that will happen-- so by definition they are not ruining it. They are doing what makes sense when you produce television purely for the purpose of generating revenue.
One of the prominent themes in dune was that humans are more powerful than machines. The movie completely stood that on it's head. The wierding way became - machines. Mentats became cyborg looking. It has nothing to do with the technology (well not completely-- the way they portrayed shields was assinine and the tech of the time was completely capable of doing it right) but with abusing a great story. Dune could be my most favorite sci-fi book. I read it at least once a year. And the film would have been o.k. if it had been called something else. It wasn't just different to the book- it was antithetical to the book.
all kidding aside, the idea is intriguing (whedon that is). but i think that with the hobbit it should be (i emphasize should) harder to mess up and much easier to translate to the screen. but if it is on par with LoTR - then i'm cool with it. and if it sucks, i'll just keep watching the animated version.
you are right about splitting it. there is only one reason to do that and it would be money. sort of like what happened with kill bill.
i think the LoTR stuff would work well. yeah- i think the orcs are a bit scary for young kids. but i think jackson could pull it off if he was inclined. but i have to be honest, i don't care if he forgets about kids and makes it for adults, as i am one now. it is a fabulous story for a film regardless of the intended audience.
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Personally - if it were my band, i'd just stick it out there to download and then allow people to pay if they want. like with that last harvey danger cd. but it's not my band, so i'd do like mentioned above and set up some normal shopping cart site for software. that is what they are selling.
i think i'd call my band urban legend if that hasn't been taken before. i wonder if you could use the phrase 'u.l. listed' without getting sued if it was for artistic use. i think that would be pretty fun. unfortunately i have absolutely no musical talent, i'm middle aged and over weight. not really the recipe for a rock star. i think i could find ways around the lack of talent, but not the other two.
here's my guess - he means they can download it but can't just email someone else the link. no controls on the file they actually get. so to download it from the band site, they must pay. what they do after that is up to them.
and when you frame it that way, this question can be answered by making it broader. what software allows you to charge someone to download a file? that's it. the music part is really irrelevant.
Chacham Cow ...and most of the adults ...without the horns ...and a few more clicks
It was a morning just like any other morning
In the Sinai desert, 1200 B.S. (Before Slashdot)
It glistened, it glowed, it rose from the gold of the children of Israel
The chacham cow!
The golden chacham cow had a body like the great cows of ancient Egypt
And a face like the face of Cowboy Neal
And through the centuries it has roamed the earth
Like a ravenous bovine
Seeking whom it may lick
chacham cow!
From the valley of the shadow of fark
To the on-line gambling boutique
From the depths of youtube
To the custom style sheet
The chacham cow lurks
The chacham cow lurks
Who loves you, baby?
Who'll give you good karma?
Who says you'll regret it?
Aaa-ooooooo
Who loves you, baby?
Who'll give you mod points?
Who says you'll regret it?
Aaa-aaa-aaa-ooooooo
I was in love and I needed the clicks
And then I needed more clicks
I was filthy rich and all I wanted were more page views
Woe to you, proud mortal
Secure in your modest digs
You think you're immune?
You, who couldn't finger said cow in a police line-up with the three little pigs!
chacham cow!
Master of disguises!
Who's gonna change shape at will?
Who's the eye on the pyramid on the back of the dollar bill?
Who loves power lunchin' from boing-boing to digg?
Who loves you, baby?
chacham cow comin' to get ya
Why?
Cuz you think this is stupid, don't you?
The chacham cow will not be mocked!
The chacham cow's planning a coup!
The chacham cow chews cud bigger than you!
Woe, woe, woe to you
Who blow off this warning
Perhaps you've already been licked
I, too, was hypnotized
By those big cow eyes
The last time I uttered those four little words
"I deserve better editors!"
so now i've got 2 oracle employees telling me 2 different things. which has been happening a lot. ask a peoplesoft person what is going to happen with peoplesoft, and then ask an oracle person what is going to happen with peoplesoft. you'll see what i mean.
you are right. i was in a discussion with someone at oracle about this a couple weeks ago - he was teaching a class, and one of the students brought up your point. the oracle instructor kind of blew it off, but let's say they do have their own distro. are they going to manage it for all the hardware out there too? there's a post above about how right now their implementation was dell/redhat/oracle. where i work it is a little simpler as we have the same vendor for the hardware and os (ibm/aix) but then there is oracle on top of that and the issues that come with it.
so i think if they do come up with a distro of their own, that eventually hardware can't be too far behind. this would also work on up the chain with their app servers, their people soft stuff, the siebel stuff, etc.
i posted this above-- but according to the guy that taught the oracle class i took a couple weeks ago, Solaris is the target now.
This is merely a theory thrown out by the instructor of my class. Just some dude who works for Oracle. So I have no idea what Oracle is seriously considering. But I personally agree with the guy that it could make all kinds of sense for Oracle to do so if they are serious about having their own distro.
I personally would love to see it since they'd have to fix OEM to work better with a non-IE browser.
On a side note, when I took the class, all the workstations that we used to do the lab portions were running red hat enterprise.
Sounds good to me. Monoculture is a real problem and what you just described sounds like a way to avoid it somewhat, not across various organizations but within one.
I took an Oracle University class a couple weeks ago. (I'm in the process of learning to be an Oracle DBA - it was the admin 1 workshop) and the instructor said that right now their target platform for development is sun. he was joking how, 'Larry didn't like Sun there for a while, but now he likes them again so they are our target.'
But he also seemed to think that Oracle would start rolling their own OS -- and brought up more than once that by acquiring Novell, they would pick up Suse. This seems to me like it might be the case.
microfocus cobol -- i was an admin for an app written in it. might be the only one in the world, but i doubt it.
because the people who want them have probably already bought e-books they would like to continue reading. but they are in closed formats. and the stuff you buy for this in closed formats will suffer the same fate.
drm and closed formats are why i wont touch any commercially available e-books. the people publishing them are so worried about protecting their intellectual property that they make they property worthless to me. (Just ran into this the other day with a Sybex book - it came with a pdf on a disc, but I can't view it because they have drm in there that is busted. their support people told me to uninstall my current version of reader and install the one on the disc that is 2 or 3 versions back- i don't think i'm going to do that)
someday - when you can buy a cheap e-book reader that will support a common format that i can purchase - or get from the library - or share with friends, then i'll think about buying in. basically i want to be able to do all that i can do with regular books now.
last night a street sweeper woke me up. 1:00 - 1:30 a.m. really annoying. for breakfast yesterday i had vanilla yogurt and a glass of low sodium v-8. (not simultaneously) today i overslept because of the street sweeper and blew off breakfast, but i just had chips and salsa that someone brought in. it was o.k. but the guy who makes it always goes mild because people around here can't handle spicy. but hey, it was free.
I live in South East Orlando. The Lake Hart area. The prior landing before that was easy to hear in my office building- so I assumed it was that way pretty much throughout town.
there was a boom that rattled the windows of the house. my wife said, "what was that?". i wasn't sure - still half asleep and then she said, "oh, the shuttle is back". went back to sleep happy that they made it back safe.
My life for Aiur!
i do believe it and i don't think people would pay to see your examples. if they would, you'd probably see it done. and i wouldn't really have a problem with it. but i think the major disconnect here, from the comments i've gotten in the thread are that a lot of people see star trek as an important piece of art and i don't. but beyond that -- rehashing classics has been around for a really long time. technology has just spead up the turn-around.
i'm just playing. i've seen so much 'horror' in the last month or so over star wars and now this that i'm just really tired of it. read down in this thread and see where a '60s sci-fi show is compared to the mona lisa or classic literature. it blows my mind.
for the same reason they made the show in the first place -- to get people to watch (and more will with the 'new' graphics) and make money selling advertising. i'm amazed at how many people here seem to think that star trek came to be as something other than a commercial venture first and everything else is incidental.
i guess you could argue that roddenberry somehow used the system to slip something worthwhile through -- but bottom line is it only existed as long as it was perceived as a means of generating cash.
You are very confused on the concept. Making money is the point and you readily admit that will happen-- so by definition they are not ruining it. They are doing what makes sense when you produce television purely for the purpose of generating revenue.
I think the interview I saw with Shatner and Nemoy was the best perspective I've seen on any of this entertainment news.
If you ask them what still gets them fired up about the late producer Gene Roddenberry's creation after all these years, you get an answer that -- underneath the glibness -- is very telling:
SHATNER: Money.
NIMOY: Yeah. The big, the big bucks.
SHATNER: Money. The money gets you fired up.
TOGETHER: The biiiig bucks.
Seriously?
SHATNER: Yes, that was serious. We were very serious about that.
NIMOY: Yeah. But seriously, folks.
n/t
One of the prominent themes in dune was that humans are more powerful than machines. The movie completely stood that on it's head. The wierding way became - machines. Mentats became cyborg looking. It has nothing to do with the technology (well not completely-- the way they portrayed shields was assinine and the tech of the time was completely capable of doing it right) but with abusing a great story. Dune could be my most favorite sci-fi book. I read it at least once a year. And the film would have been o.k. if it had been called something else. It wasn't just different to the book- it was antithetical to the book.
hot lesbian hobbit action? i think not. :)
all kidding aside, the idea is intriguing (whedon that is). but i think that with the hobbit it should be (i emphasize should) harder to mess up and much easier to translate to the screen. but if it is on par with LoTR - then i'm cool with it. and if it sucks, i'll just keep watching the animated version.
you are right about splitting it. there is only one reason to do that and it would be money. sort of like what happened with kill bill.
i think the LoTR stuff would work well. yeah- i think the orcs are a bit scary for young kids. but i think jackson could pull it off if he was inclined. but i have to be honest, i don't care if he forgets about kids and makes it for adults, as i am one now. it is a fabulous story for a film regardless of the intended audience.
If it were definitely Jackson in charge - and not just a hope. I would be sweet if this matched up well with his LoTR films - in look and all that.