I noticed at the technet launch for vs2005 (the local one they did in my area on tuesday) that a lot of the new components in the web development toolbox use ajax. It was pretty slick I must admit. Drag and drop them on a form and use them.
I've never used visual studio for web stuff, and I don't know if it can be used to do stuff like that without getting tied into asp or whatever, but it was impressive what they can do with it.
the registration site said pro version for a while, then switched to standard and microsoft sent an email saying it would be standard. people in this thread are saying 180 day license-- the email I got said nothing about that.
The email I got said standard version- regular license. Now I'm not sure if it varies by location but they had to send the email out as the registration site said it was the pro version for a while.
What does someone preferring PostgreSQL have to do with MySQL?
I guess I could understand if he had added a jab about how mysql could never do that. But he didn't. He's just touting the database management system that he likes.
The mysql vs. postgres thing gets so out of hand. It reminds me of when I compliment my 5 year old and my 4 year old gets upset because I didn't compliment her too. When I wrote my initial post I thought of mentioning the MySql part of the issue and the trouble they may be in due to the Oracle move, but I decided not to just because it is so difficult to discuss in a rational way. Too many people start digging up the same old tired arguments.
I don't care if everybody starts using MySql and it gets voted 'best thing ever'. I'll still be happy as a clam in high tide, running what I prefer. That's the most valuable part of free software in my opinion.
They could buy a company that sells Postgres support or makes a version of Postgres that they sell, but they aren't going to be 'buying postgres'. This is may seem like nit picking but it is somewhat important. PostgreSQL is free software in every sense of the term and Sun is not going to buy it. They are not going to purchase control of it.
I guess they could try and hire all the main developers or something. Though I think that'd be tough too. And I'm glad of that as Postgres is my favorite rdbms. I like that it is free and as far as I can tell is going to stay that way for as long as it exists.
I think there is a plug in that should scratch just about any itch. Nice.
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It's interesting that you can't just mention one product without the other coming up. I'm dealing with this when I talk to my 4 and 5 year old daughters. If I tell one that they did good, the other is upset that I didn't tell them they did good too.
Apparently this community has a sizeable population of people who never progressed beyond this kind of thinking.
I guess what I wonder is-- if you make it a part of the OS aren't you basically forking it? Unless the ties to the os are not to the database engine itself.
I think the postgres development community is strong enough that it doesn't matter. So I'm not worried about it, I just am curious about the implications of that one aspect.
If they take postgres and roll it into the OS- that means the work they do after that wont be coming back to the postgres community? I assume that is the likely course, or am I mistaken?
I like the BSD license, and I understand what the ramifications of it are. And I'm not trying to start a debate over whether this is a 'good' thing or not. Just hoping someone here more knowledgable will give some insight on how this is likely to go.
I didn't mod it up funny. My Karma doesn't go up when it gets modded up funny - but then it goes down when some idiots mod it overated. Isn't that what metamoderation is for??? Punish the people who modded it funny- not me. Freakin' Idiots. Man that pisses me off.
Yeah I'm not supposed to care, but this happens too often and I just don't see why it can't be fixed.
Carlos was not the top sniper in viet nam (I believe there was an army sniper with more kills) but he is probably the most well known. There is a fascinating book about him "Marine Sniper", that I found to be very good. There are other books too but this is the one that I read. The book is a large part of why he is so well known.
It is worth reading because not only was he awesome, but the equipment he had was nothing as good as what they have today. The book is a quick read and I picked it up used, dirt cheap. New on Amazon I think it is only 8 bucks.
Of course another good way to learn about extensions is to download a few and look at the code. That has probably been the biggest help to me once the tutorials, etc. gave me the basic idea of what is going on.
no matter what piece of hardware I buy, at any price, a faster and cheaper one will be out a week later
I really do look like a middle aged dad/geek- regardless of my #insert cool tech gadget here#
I spend more time getting my apps 'dialed in' than I do actually using them
I'll continue to upgrade every time my distro puts out a new release, even though everything works just fine now and my old hardware is having a tough time keeping up
At least once this week I'll continue explaining to someone about relational databases long after they have lost all interest.
I'll be showing my dad how to burn a cd at least 3 times in the next 2 months
my blog peaked that time 3 people read it in one day
When I 'signed' that one web petition for 'that cause' nothing happened
I'll get to use this in a couple days when this story gets posted again
There is a lot I like about gnome- but last time I did try it, the lack of a menu editor drove me nuts. I dug around trying to find out how to do it manually for days. Even wrote up a journal entry or two on it. I ended up giving up and went back to KDE. I'll check this out and see how it goes.
I stand corrected - your thread on a Hate Bush site with the title 'If this is true....' is much more credible than my personal knowledge of Naval operations and the photographs I have looked at of operations underway. I don't know what I was thinking.
There are hovercraft working in the gulf coast to deliver supplies. They are not capable of going in amongst the homes and pulling people out. They don't work like that.
USS Bataan (LHD 5) USS Iwo Jima (LHD 7) USS Harry Truman (CVN-75) USS Whidbey Island (LSD 41) USNS Comfort (T-AH 20)
And those are just the big boys and that is just the Navy. Bataan has been active since almost day one. More info in my journal (not much but a little).
Unfortunately - your post probably wont see the light of day. But you are one hundred percent correct. Don't have mod points - so all I can do is agree rather than mod you up and that ill informed post down.
Seriously-- yeah it is MS, but the problem exists with any proprietary technology. The company doesn't need to be borg-like, just closed.
I've had plenty of jobs where we got locked in on the O.S. or on applications and it sucks. It is a rotten feeling when you want something changed but it is either impossible or it will cost you an arm and a leg. (Then you have to wait on their timing too)
I know throwing apple out there is a bit inflammatory around here but it proves the point. There are plenty of bad options out there without even pointing out Microsoft.
You aren't insignificant as a person. But come on. I like e-books too. And you have friends who do. But in the grander scheme of things, we are a really small group. That's all I'm saying.
I don't agree, like I said, that it is an empty gesture-- I'm just looking for realistic perspective.
Right now, if I were an author, I would give away electronic versions of my work too. (As a matter of fact I intend to publish a couple things through lulu and do just that) But when e-books get to be as good as dead-tree, I'm not sure I'll feel the same about it.
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I noticed at the technet launch for vs2005 (the local one they did in my area on tuesday) that a lot of the new components in the web development toolbox use ajax. It was pretty slick I must admit. Drag and drop them on a form and use them.
I've never used visual studio for web stuff, and I don't know if it can be used to do stuff like that without getting tied into asp or whatever, but it was impressive what they can do with it.
Well hopefully this will help us get to the point where the court tells IBM what SCO did wrong.
the registration site said pro version for a while, then switched to standard and microsoft sent an email saying it would be standard. people in this thread are saying 180 day license-- the email I got said nothing about that.
The email I got said standard version- regular license. Now I'm not sure if it varies by location but they had to send the email out as the registration site said it was the pro version for a while.
What does someone preferring PostgreSQL have to do with MySQL?
I guess I could understand if he had added a jab about how mysql could never do that. But he didn't. He's just touting the database management system that he likes.
The mysql vs. postgres thing gets so out of hand. It reminds me of when I compliment my 5 year old and my 4 year old gets upset because I didn't compliment her too. When I wrote my initial post I thought of mentioning the MySql part of the issue and the trouble they may be in due to the Oracle move, but I decided not to just because it is so difficult to discuss in a rational way. Too many people start digging up the same old tired arguments.
I don't care if everybody starts using MySql and it gets voted 'best thing ever'. I'll still be happy as a clam in high tide, running what I prefer. That's the most valuable part of free software in my opinion.
...Sun recently looking at purchasing PostgreSQL
That would be a neat trick wouldn't it?
They could buy a company that sells Postgres support or makes a version of Postgres that they sell, but they aren't going to be 'buying postgres'. This is may seem like nit picking but it is somewhat important. PostgreSQL is free software in every sense of the term and Sun is not going to buy it. They are not going to purchase control of it.
I guess they could try and hire all the main developers or something. Though I think that'd be tough too. And I'm glad of that as Postgres is my favorite rdbms. I like that it is free and as far as I can tell is going to stay that way for as long as it exists.
Really.
I think there is a plug in that should scratch just about any itch. Nice.
It's interesting that you can't just mention one product without the other coming up. I'm dealing with this when I talk to my 4 and 5 year old daughters. If I tell one that they did good, the other is upset that I didn't tell them they did good too.
Apparently this community has a sizeable population of people who never progressed beyond this kind of thinking.
I guess what I wonder is-- if you make it a part of the OS aren't you basically forking it? Unless the ties to the os are not to the database engine itself.
I think the postgres development community is strong enough that it doesn't matter. So I'm not worried about it, I just am curious about the implications of that one aspect.
If they take postgres and roll it into the OS- that means the work they do after that wont be coming back to the postgres community? I assume that is the likely course, or am I mistaken?
I like the BSD license, and I understand what the ramifications of it are. And I'm not trying to start a debate over whether this is a 'good' thing or not. Just hoping someone here more knowledgable will give some insight on how this is likely to go.
I didn't mod it up funny. My Karma doesn't go up when it gets modded up funny - but then it goes down when some idiots mod it overated. Isn't that what metamoderation is for??? Punish the people who modded it funny- not me. Freakin' Idiots. Man that pisses me off.
Yeah I'm not supposed to care, but this happens too often and I just don't see why it can't be fixed.
Carlos was not the top sniper in viet nam (I believe there was an army sniper with more kills) but he is probably the most well known. There is a fascinating book about him "Marine Sniper", that I found to be very good. There are other books too but this is the one that I read. The book is a large part of why he is so well known.
It is worth reading because not only was he awesome, but the equipment he had was nothing as good as what they have today. The book is a quick read and I picked it up used, dirt cheap. New on Amazon I think it is only 8 bucks.
It's like watching a fly repeatedly run into a glass window. I can only guess that these companies can't help themselves any more than the fly.
like I was. Here is the count of mentions from the body.
Serenity: 7
Ender's Game: 6
So it really is more about Serenity.
In fact it would have better been described as "protecting the f-22 budget" rather than getting our ass kicked.
That's awesome.
These are a few sites that I found helpful. Some are a little old but I got something out of all of them.
c reate-firefox-extensions/
i on_tutorial.php
p ackaging/extensions.html
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http://www.xulplanet.com/
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Dev_:_Extensions
http://roachfiend.com/archives/2004/12/08/how-to-
http://businesslogs.com/technology/firefox_extens
http://www.bengoodger.com/software/mb/extensions/
http://mozilla-firefox-extension-dev.blogspot.com
http://books.mozdev.org/index.html
http://www.mozilla.org/xpfe/gettingstarted.html
Of course another good way to learn about extensions is to download a few and look at the code. That has probably been the biggest help to me once the tutorials, etc. gave me the basic idea of what is going on.
There is a lot I like about gnome- but last time I did try it, the lack of a menu editor drove me nuts. I dug around trying to find out how to do it manually for days. Even wrote up a journal entry or two on it. I ended up giving up and went back to KDE. I'll check this out and see how it goes.
I stand corrected - your thread on a Hate Bush site with the title 'If this is true....' is much more credible than my personal knowledge of Naval operations and the photographs I have looked at of operations underway. I don't know what I was thinking.
There are hovercraft working in the gulf coast to deliver supplies. They are not capable of going in amongst the homes and pulling people out. They don't work like that.
USS Bataan (LHD 5)
USS Iwo Jima (LHD 7)
USS Harry Truman (CVN-75)
USS Whidbey Island (LSD 41)
USNS Comfort (T-AH 20)
And those are just the big boys and that is just the Navy. Bataan has been active since almost day one. More info in my journal (not much but a little).
Unfortunately - your post probably wont see the light of day. But you are one hundred percent correct. Don't have mod points - so all I can do is agree rather than mod you up and that ill informed post down.
Seriously-- yeah it is MS, but the problem exists with any proprietary technology. The company doesn't need to be borg-like, just closed.
I've had plenty of jobs where we got locked in on the O.S. or on applications and it sucks. It is a rotten feeling when you want something changed but it is either impossible or it will cost you an arm and a leg. (Then you have to wait on their timing too)
I know throwing apple out there is a bit inflammatory around here but it proves the point. There are plenty of bad options out there without even pointing out Microsoft.
You aren't insignificant as a person. But come on. I like e-books too. And you have friends who do. But in the grander scheme of things, we are a really small group. That's all I'm saying.
I don't agree, like I said, that it is an empty gesture-- I'm just looking for realistic perspective.
Right now, if I were an author, I would give away electronic versions of my work too. (As a matter of fact I intend to publish a couple things through lulu and do just that) But when e-books get to be as good as dead-tree, I'm not sure I'll feel the same about it.