You're trolling right? I mean, "Hopefully"? What's so sacred about fucking shareholders and their fucking value? On the one side you have a billion people living under a despotic government, and on the other hand you have a bunch of worthless shits whose only claim to fame is MOVING MONEY. Not producing anything, not providing services, not doing any-fucking-thing that has any value to anyone, but buying and selling shares. Nothing wrong with it, except suddenly shareholders become this upper caste that everyone tiptoes around and grovels before. Including governments and media. What the FUCK?
Capitalism is the source of diversity, development and wealth. Corporatism and stock market are facilitators of oppression, as Google's case evidences. When you value profit over _everything else_, you are evil.
"And I don't see how this is a sign of google being evil. They simply want to enter a large market but must play by China's rules."
They can also choose not to tner the market. If they do, then they accept whatever Chinese government demands. By this time it's no longer purely a business action - it is now also a moral action, and it can be judged in terms of a/im/morality.
The idea what whatever a business does isnever has a moral angle to it is bogus.
"At most, the rules are just going to restrict what web pages the Chinese can access, not modify the pages themselves in that form of censorship."
Ah, so it's OK to block content, only not OK to modify it? Funny way to solve ambivalence: you like foo but also perceive a bad side, so you redefine the bad so that foo no satisfies the definition. Something the US government excels at.
Yeah, and if government X wants to buy a gas chamber, why shouldn't a US company sell it to them? This is exactly your logic. This is exactly the kind of behavior which a company exhibits when it is motivated solely by profit. Why is it OK for a public company to engage in an action which most people would deplore if it were perpetrated by an individual?
That would be too late. At least on the more recent versions of Windows you can't read out text from password boxes. None of the "password revealer" programs appear to work on Win2000 or XP.
Because you are no longer free to take the company in the direction you want. Wait until a startup figures out a better way to search than Google has, and Google starts losing ad revenue big time. That's when they start cashing in on all the other uses for the data they have.
GWA, GMail, google toolbar, search history - these are not good deeds. They are investments.
"Google say they will do no evil. Great, and I trust that."
Google's *founders* said that, and you or I may trust them, because they're geeks and they're doing cool stuff. But did google shareholders say that too?
Whatever information Google now has that it is choosing not to use or is using in a benign manner *will* eventually be used to detriment of Google users' privacy if the shareholders decide it's gonna raise their "value".
"This is what happens when you let average computer users use Microsoft products to produce "important" documents."
Nope. This happens when you let average computer users use *any* products to produce important documents. Doesn't OpenOffice support hidden text? If it doesn't, it's not sophisticated enough. If it does, the same would have happened.
Word help and MS's online docs and tutorials explain all people need to know about hidden data and properties stored in Office documents and how to strip them.
"Plugins/Extensions/Themes are third party software, and Mozilla cannot be responsible for their code/stability"
No, but Mozilla is responsible for the interfaces. If an extension doesn't work anymore or creashes the browser, it's because the browser's extension interface has changed. By now this should be happening rarely, not with every new release (almost).
Download size is not an issue. My problem (I use Firefox exclusively) is that I am reluctant to upgrade, because I know some of the extensions I use won't be available for the new version. Indeed this is what caused me to move from Mozilla to Firefox about a year ago - I was fed up with having to use an old build because a few extensions I needed weren't being upgraded to match new releases. Now I'm still using FF 0.9, same reason.
Release notes for the latest 1.03 still insist you need to remove the previous version first and the installer diaables all extensions. I pass. IMO a 1.x codebase should be mature and stable enough to be installed over an existing earlier version.
I was reminded of this/. discussion we had 2003. Back then most/.ers were a-ok with military bioresearch in lethal shit that hadn't even been invented yet.
Now, this case today concerns medical research, but I wonder if people still think that labs are safe and there's no chance of an outbreak.
"If you don't fight for it all, then the courts assume that you don't care for it all."
IANAL, but under US law this reasoning apparently applies only to trademarks, not to copyrighted works, or patents, or trade secrets, or other kinds of intellectual property.
"no one is going to pay for something they can get for free."
The stuff that was seeded via EZT was stuff you couldn't buy for any amount of cash, since EZT only allowed live recordings (not demos, outtakes etc) that had never been released. If you were seeding a recording of a show from which a track or two were previously published on the artist's official album, you had to remove those tracks before posting your torrent.
In other words, EZT was helping dustribute stuff that no-one in the music industry cares to sell. This may not have made EZT legal, but it sure as hell made it ethical.
EZT didn't do any of these things, of course. A bittorrent tracker is just a list of seeds.
Not that it matters, but for completeness: EZT accepted unofficial recordings only (i.e. a guy in the audience with a lapel mike). They had a very strict polict against seeding any musical content that has been officially published (even if not in print anymore). I have seen many posted bootlegs removed from the tracker because they happened to contain 1 track that had been published on some official live album or compilation out there. Seeders were supposed to remove such tracks and reseed. So again: no officially released recordings were being pirated on EZT.
But MySQL is not a Real(R) Database(tm), everybody knows that! It doesn't support stored procedures, triggers, views and many other features that only Real Databases have! *Nobody* who knows anything about anything ever uses MySQL after they're out of kindergarten. Now let's go find a website that runs off MySQL so we can laugh and point fingers at the webmaster. Sheesh!
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It's an interesting experiment in propagation. How fast and how far will gmail spread just by way of invitation, without it being officially open and without a costly advertizing campaign?
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Chinese government filters political content.
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That okay too?
Right, and were we here in (ex-) East Bloc better off with a TV that lied 24/7, or would we have been better off with no TV at all?
Wrong question.
You're trolling right? I mean, "Hopefully"? What's so sacred about fucking shareholders and their fucking value? On the one side you have a billion people living under a despotic government, and on the other hand you have a bunch of worthless shits whose only claim to fame is MOVING MONEY. Not producing anything, not providing services, not doing any-fucking-thing that has any value to anyone, but buying and selling shares. Nothing wrong with it, except suddenly shareholders become this upper caste that everyone tiptoes around and grovels before. Including governments and media. What the FUCK?
Capitalism is the source of diversity, development and wealth. Corporatism and stock market are facilitators of oppression, as Google's case evidences. When you value profit over _everything else_, you are evil.
"And I don't see how this is a sign of google being evil. They simply want to enter a large market but must play by China's rules."
They can also choose not to tner the market. If they do, then they accept whatever Chinese government demands. By this time it's no longer purely a business action - it is now also a moral action, and it can be judged in terms of a/im/morality.
The idea what whatever a business does isnever has a moral angle to it is bogus.
"At most, the rules are just going to restrict what web pages the Chinese can access, not modify the pages themselves in that form of censorship."
Ah, so it's OK to block content, only not OK to modify it? Funny way to solve ambivalence: you like foo but also perceive a bad side, so you redefine the bad so that foo no satisfies the definition. Something the US government excels at.
Yeah, and if government X wants to buy a gas chamber, why shouldn't a US company sell it to them? This is exactly your logic. This is exactly the kind of behavior which a company exhibits when it is motivated solely by profit. Why is it OK for a public company to engage in an action which most people would deplore if it were perpetrated by an individual?
" javascript. The language that has no purpose anymore."
Look into Firefox's chrome directory and say that again.
That would be too late. At least on the more recent versions of Windows you can't read out text from password boxes. None of the "password revealer" programs appear to work on Win2000 or XP.
Because you are no longer free to take the company in the direction you want. Wait until a startup figures out a better way to search than Google has, and Google starts losing ad revenue big time. That's when they start cashing in on all the other uses for the data they have.
GWA, GMail, google toolbar, search history - these are not good deeds. They are investments.
And the difference is... what? A slogain coined by a different PR firm?
"Sure there have been many setbacks along the way"
Say that again when you happen to be part of the collateral damage in one of those 'setbacks".
"Google say they will do no evil. Great, and I trust that."
Google's *founders* said that, and you or I may trust them, because they're geeks and they're doing cool stuff. But did google shareholders say that too?
Whatever information Google now has that it is choosing not to use or is using in a benign manner *will* eventually be used to detriment of Google users' privacy if the shareholders decide it's gonna raise their "value".
""A decade later, they return to their old offices" seems like a pretty convoluted way to avoid mentioning they won an election."
They won what election? Anyone here voted for Wolfowitz?
"This is what happens when you let average computer users use Microsoft products to produce "important" documents."
Nope. This happens when you let average computer users use *any* products to produce important documents. Doesn't OpenOffice support hidden text? If it doesn't, it's not sophisticated enough. If it does, the same would have happened.
Word help and MS's online docs and tutorials explain all people need to know about hidden data and properties stored in Office documents and how to strip them.
Users should know their software.
Install the same components, yes, but you absolutely don't need to replicate the directory structure.
Only old Koreans use RSS anymore. Everybody knows that.
"can you please stop spitting out this hashed over liberal bullshit."
I didn't know truth was liberal. There were no WMDs in Iraq, your pres told the whole world there were, lots of intelligence people knew it was bull.
You may say this is off-topic or bad analogy or whatever. But it ain't bullshit and it ain't liberal.
"Plugins/Extensions/Themes are third party software, and Mozilla cannot be responsible for their code/stability"
No, but Mozilla is responsible for the interfaces. If an extension doesn't work anymore or creashes the browser, it's because the browser's extension interface has changed. By now this should be happening rarely, not with every new release (almost).
Download size is not an issue. My problem (I use Firefox exclusively) is that I am reluctant to upgrade, because I know some of the extensions I use won't be available for the new version. Indeed this is what caused me to move from Mozilla to Firefox about a year ago - I was fed up with having to use an old build because a few extensions I needed weren't being upgraded to match new releases. Now I'm still using FF 0.9, same reason.
Release notes for the latest 1.03 still insist you need to remove the previous version first and the installer diaables all extensions. I pass. IMO a 1.x codebase should be mature and stable enough to be installed over an existing earlier version.
Now, this case today concerns medical research, but I wonder if people still think that labs are safe and there's no chance of an outbreak.
"If you don't fight for it all, then the courts assume that you don't care for it all."
IANAL, but under US law this reasoning apparently applies only to trademarks, not to copyrighted works, or patents, or trade secrets, or other kinds of intellectual property.
"no one is going to pay for something they can get for free."
The stuff that was seeded via EZT was stuff you couldn't buy for any amount of cash, since EZT only allowed live recordings (not demos, outtakes etc) that had never been released. If you were seeding a recording of a show from which a track or two were previously published on the artist's official album, you had to remove those tracks before posting your torrent.
In other words, EZT was helping dustribute stuff that no-one in the music industry cares to sell. This may not have made EZT legal, but it sure as hell made it ethical.
EZT didn't do any of these things, of course. A bittorrent tracker is just a list of seeds.
Not that it matters, but for completeness: EZT accepted unofficial recordings only (i.e. a guy in the audience with a lapel mike). They had a very strict polict against seeding any musical content that has been officially published (even if not in print anymore). I have seen many posted bootlegs removed from the tracker because they happened to contain 1 track that had been published on some official live album or compilation out there. Seeders were supposed to remove such tracks and reseed. So again: no officially released recordings were being pirated on EZT.
Next time it'll be a drink. Cool Aid.
But MySQL is not a Real(R) Database(tm), everybody knows that! It doesn't support stored procedures, triggers, views and many other features that only Real Databases have! *Nobody* who knows anything about anything ever uses MySQL after they're out of kindergarten. Now let's go find a website that runs off MySQL so we can laugh and point fingers at the webmaster. Sheesh!
It's an interesting experiment in propagation. How fast and how far will gmail spread just by way of invitation, without it being officially open and without a costly advertizing campaign?