This is not a Microsoft license. It is a license for the very specific product and has nothing to do with any other software and licenses used with their other products.
Think about it for a second and you will understand.
Hopefully..
No.
I have never said that your world sucks.
All I said is that your world sucks FOR ME and therefore I will stay with mine.
The author of the original article pretty much said the same thing. He judged Japan by American standards which he had every right to do.
", And RMS was making me realize that this is not "theft", or "piracy", by any stretch of the imagination, and should therefore not be illegal. "
You are too easily influenced. Be careful, for one day you might meet new prophet who will convince you that you have a right to take that item from the shelf and not pay for it.
Needless to say you will be subject to rude awakening.
BTW.
It is interesting how RMS is willing to dispense advice regarding OTHER people property.
Please realize that you are dealing with product created by Microsoft and not by RMS or your buddies.
If you refuse to believe in intellectual property please restrain from using products from companies like MS. Make no mistake, despite what RMS says (who btw is just another of these countless little prophets who proposed universal change of our values - nobody remembers them anymore), according to current law you are a thief.
And why in the world it is WRONG to think that way ?
Maybe I have tried many ways and have seen many other places and finally came to conclusion that the way I live is the best there is for me?
Who are you to say what is good for me and what is not? Who are you to proclaim that my little world is too not enough for me and limits my real potential ?
"I just can't believe that M$ can keep doing this! Can't FSF sue M$ for difamation?"
Keep doing what ?
They are absolutely right about GPL being viral. IT DOES FUCKING ENFORCE GPL LICENSE ON ANYTHING THAT IS LINKED WITH IT !
It forces spread of GPL -> it is viral.
Are you fucking blind or simply refuse to face reality ?
Yeah, and now I am completely confused with fucking Qt license.
I have couple of free libraries which are NOT "free-enough" to be considered as such by FSF and therefore I am prohibited from using them in my Qt programs. How about linking with Sybase dblibrary ( which I have done before ) ?
Can I do that with GPLed Qt ?
GPL is a fucking nightmare that created so many problems for I am thinking about stopping development with Qt despite the fact that I love technical side of this product.
"Japan is NOT for Westerners....we are not to judge or belittle this country, since we have no idea what it is. "
Why not ?
We are looking at it from our Western perspective and , frankly , it is all what matters. I don't care how it is viewed by Japanese people since I AM NOT one of them and my opinions will be from position of somebody on outside. They only world I really know is my world and declaring that I have no right to judge others simply because they are different than me is ridiculous.
You are wrong. It was not about complete lack of innovation in Japan but comparative lack of innovations in a country with SECOND largest economy in the world.
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US never existed previously in history, it was fabricated by bunch of people who were tired of having no say about their future.
Please go ask people in Kuwait if they are willing to become part of Iraq again and if they are then you have a point.
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"We killed a hundred thousand iraqis whose only failing was to be drafted into an army for cheap oil"
Did we draft them into their army and send them to Kuwait ?
BTW. We did kill 7 000 000 Germans whose only fault was being drafted into German army.
Should we feel bad for that too? We can't blame Germans for trying to kill our soldiers and by the same token by can't blame ourselves for what happened in Iraq.
It was a war and people tend to get killed during wars.
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No, to keep "certain radical environmental organization " from screwing with my way of life.
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And why not ? Do you think they would act differently if they had a chance?
We don't keep Middle East fucked up. They do fine job of keeping it that way themselves.
Hell, no matter how you look at it, people like you would be happy only when there is NO paper being used , no books printed , no electricity used and frankly, no advancement since ANYTHING modern is to some degree environmentally unfriendly ( it uses power in one way or another.)
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This is precisely why I pay taxes to keep organizations like FBI in business.
And no this is not a troll post. I am deadly serious here.
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"we have some sort of "right" to our consumptive lifestyle (at the expense of the rest of the planet) "
We are not doing this at expense of anybody. People in these "poor" countries wouldn't be using their resources anyway if it weren't for western technology.
BTW. Should we slow down progress simply because others are not able to keep up with us?
"Some slackware users have a clue, and aren't the sort of people who would install random-irc-opengl-mp3-plugin.rpm as root without knowing exactly what is going on. "
Yeah, you mean people who like to do shit by hand despite the fact that this is the sort of thing crying to be automated using computer.
Why do you use your computers? To fuck with it just for the sake of having good time or to become more productive?
"and aren't the sort of people who would install random-irc-opengl-mp3-plugin.rpm as root without knowing exactly what is going on"
How the hell would you know "exactly" what is it going to do ?
Unless you have couple of years experience with C and ASM you wouldn't even suspect what kind of shit one can hide in innocently looking code.
You can't me master of all trades, you know....
"Alien should not be used to replace important system packages, like sysvinit, shared libraries, or other things that are essential for the functioning of your system. Many of these packages are set up differently by Debian and Red Hat, and packages from the different distributions cannot be used interchangably. In general, if you can't uninstall the package without breaking your system, don't try to replace it with an alien version."
That's idiotic.
There are valid packages that need root access.
Beside, if you don't trust app vendors whom are you going to trust? Are you going to start supplying software yourself?
Why don't we all go back to the wonderful medieval system, everyone producing just enough to cover his/her own needs?
"Personally I try hard not to run closed source software as root. "
BTW. If it is an "open" source app do you really have the skills to wade thru tens of thousands lines of code in search of something that might be hidden in two lines or even bunch of static hex defines?
The chances are you don't. You simply read or heard from other people about that piece of software and you trust them enough to install it on your system.
How is that different from closed source app ? If something is seriously wrong you will know about it regardless if it is open or closed source application.
It is not for you .
The standard is for app developers so they can reasonably follow SOME guidelines when installing and configuring their software.
How the hell Am I supposed to write nice installer and add my app to desktop menu if you are running Windowmaker, which keeps his configuration files in their own format, in their own location, completely different than anything else...
See the problem here ?
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Hah, you sound like a truly impartial "spectator"
Give me a fucking break.
This is not a Microsoft license. It is a license for the very specific product and has nothing to do with any other software and licenses used with their other products. ..
Think about it for a second and you will understand.
Hopefully
It is not off topic. It is more like off limit.
You have simply ventured beyond acceptable and generally regarded as correct truths on this site.
No.
I have never said that your world sucks.
All I said is that your world sucks FOR ME and therefore I will stay with mine.
The author of the original article pretty much said the same thing. He judged Japan by American standards which he had every right to do.
", And RMS was making me realize that this is not "theft", or "piracy", by any stretch of the imagination, and should therefore not be illegal. "
You are too easily influenced. Be careful, for one day you might meet new prophet who will convince you that you have a right to take that item from the shelf and not pay for it.
Needless to say you will be subject to rude awakening.
BTW.
It is interesting how RMS is willing to dispense advice regarding OTHER people property.
Please realize that you are dealing with product created by Microsoft and not by RMS or your buddies.
If you refuse to believe in intellectual property please restrain from using products from companies like MS. Make no mistake, despite what RMS says (who btw is just another of these countless little prophets who proposed universal change of our values - nobody remembers them anymore), according to current law you are a thief.
And why in the world it is WRONG to think that way ?
Maybe I have tried many ways and have seen many other places and finally came to conclusion that the way I live is the best there is for me?
Who are you to say what is good for me and what is not? Who are you to proclaim that my little world is too not enough for me and limits my real potential ?
Europeans raly on MS software just as much as US does.
They don't have ANYTHING ready to replace vast numbers of MS software running machines.
You are fucking prophet, aren't you ?
You certainly sounds like one.
On what historical evidence are you basing this "extended forecast" ?
"I just can't believe that M$ can keep doing this! Can't FSF sue M$ for difamation?"
Keep doing what ?
They are absolutely right about GPL being viral. IT DOES FUCKING ENFORCE GPL LICENSE ON ANYTHING THAT IS LINKED WITH IT !
It forces spread of GPL -> it is viral.
Are you fucking blind or simply refuse to face reality ?
It is free to use, has a source code available for everyone to play with.
It is free.
Yeah, and now I am completely confused with fucking Qt license.
I have couple of free libraries which are NOT "free-enough" to be considered as such by FSF and therefore I am prohibited from using them in my Qt programs. How about linking with Sybase dblibrary ( which I have done before ) ?
Can I do that with GPLed Qt ?
GPL is a fucking nightmare that created so many problems for I am thinking about stopping development with Qt despite the fact that I love technical side of this product.
It is not a FUD and companies you are mentioning are hardly a blimp in a software market ( most of them are yet to see significant profit anyway)
"Japan is NOT for Westerners....we are not to judge or belittle this country, since we have no idea what it is. "
Why not ?
We are looking at it from our Western perspective and , frankly , it is all what matters. I don't care how it is viewed by Japanese people since I AM NOT one of them and my opinions will be from position of somebody on outside. They only world I really know is my world and declaring that I have no right to judge others simply because they are different than me is ridiculous.
You are wrong. It was not about complete lack of innovation in Japan but comparative lack of innovations in a country with SECOND largest economy in the world.
US never existed previously in history, it was fabricated by bunch of people who were tired of having no say about their future.
Please go ask people in Kuwait if they are willing to become part of Iraq again and if they are then you have a point.
"We killed a hundred thousand iraqis whose only failing was to be drafted into an army for cheap oil"
Did we draft them into their army and send them to Kuwait ?
BTW. We did kill 7 000 000 Germans whose only fault was being drafted into German army.
Should we feel bad for that too? We can't blame Germans for trying to kill our soldiers and by the same token by can't blame ourselves for what happened in Iraq.
It was a war and people tend to get killed during wars.
No, to keep "certain radical environmental organization " from screwing with my way of life.
And why not ? Do you think they would act differently if they had a chance?
We don't keep Middle East fucked up. They do fine job of keeping it that way themselves.
Hell, no matter how you look at it, people like you would be happy only when there is NO paper being used , no books printed , no electricity used and frankly, no advancement since ANYTHING modern is to some degree environmentally unfriendly ( it uses power in one way or another .)
This is precisely why I pay taxes to keep organizations like FBI in business.
And no this is not a troll post. I am deadly serious here.
"we have some sort of "right" to our consumptive lifestyle (at the expense of the rest of the planet) "
We are not doing this at expense of anybody. People in these "poor" countries wouldn't be using their resources anyway if it weren't for western technology.
BTW. Should we slow down progress simply because others are not able to keep up with us?
"Some slackware users have a clue, and aren't the sort of people who would install random-irc-opengl-mp3-plugin.rpm as root without knowing exactly what is going on. "
....
Yeah, you mean people who like to do shit by hand despite the fact that this is the sort of thing crying to be automated using computer.
Why do you use your computers? To fuck with it just for the sake of having good time or to become more productive?
"and aren't the sort of people who would install random-irc-opengl-mp3-plugin.rpm as root without knowing exactly what is going on"
How the hell would you know "exactly" what is it going to do ?
Unless you have couple of years experience with C and ASM you wouldn't even suspect what kind of shit one can hide in innocently looking code.
You can't me master of all trades, you know
Quting from the Alien site.
"Alien should not be used to replace important system packages, like sysvinit, shared libraries, or other things that are essential for the functioning of your system. Many of these packages are set up differently by Debian and Red Hat, and packages from the different distributions cannot be used interchangably. In general, if you can't uninstall the package without breaking your system, don't try to replace it with an alien version."
You call that solution ?
That's idiotic.
There are valid packages that need root access.
Beside, if you don't trust app vendors whom are you going to trust? Are you going to start supplying software yourself?
Why don't we all go back to the wonderful medieval system, everyone producing just enough to cover his/her own needs?
"Personally I try hard not to run closed source software as root. "
BTW. If it is an "open" source app do you really have the skills to wade thru tens of thousands lines of code in search of something that might be hidden in two lines or even bunch of static hex defines?
The chances are you don't. You simply read or heard from other people about that piece of software and you trust them enough to install it on your system.
How is that different from closed source app ? If something is seriously wrong you will know about it regardless if it is open or closed source application.
It is not for you . ...
The standard is for app developers so they can reasonably follow SOME guidelines when installing and configuring their software.
How the hell Am I supposed to write nice installer and add my app to desktop menu if you are running Windowmaker, which keeps his configuration files in their own format, in their own location, completely different than anything else
See the problem here ?