It wouldn't make sense to "give up on" something where you are making money. However, that highlights the difference in perspective. If I am make money exporting widgets, yet as a country we import more widgets than we export, then in terms of these widgets our net balance is negative. Of course I shouldn't stop exporting, since I'm making money doing it, and if I did stop, our net balance would be more negative. In terms of which perspective is "the most important", it depends on what question is being asked, which perspective gives you a better view. If one is talking about balance of trade, then it is true that in terms of Services, IP makes up over half of our net postive balance. This is only useful when discussing the importance of IP vs. other services in terms of trade balance. It might also explain why Free Software is having trouble getting mindset traction in certain circles, however.
Yes, but if you put all of the US together, we wouldn't be doing the stuff that fractioning off into factions allows strong interests to push through. Which more likely, that we get together, or the rest of the world resolves their differences?
Ah, "slowing their uptake" is *not* "reducing their holdings". Rather it means that they are increasing their holdings slower than they were, but still increasing their holdings. Doesn't sound like the card is quite "dry". Debt is way way way beyond WWII levels, by the way. They are even beyond the levels of Ronald Regan, who made WWII look like nothing.
Well but wouldn't there also be a possiblity of a defense based on the fact that she didn't know it occured, and a reasonable person wouldn't have known that it occured? Should you go to jail if someone hotwires your car and uses it in a crime?
I looked, but couldn't find the "Goods page". Also, consider that I was presenting a balance. In terms of travel, the numbers (on the page posted) are:
Exports:74.7 Imports:64.6 Balance:10.0, whereas for Royalties and icense Fees the numbers are
Exports:51.1 Imports:22.6 Balance:28.5
and thus, while the export amount for travel is a higher number, in terms of trade balance IP is almost three times that of travel.
I surely don't vouch for the numbers, but in terms of the numbers provided, it is true that IP is over half of the service balance, even though I agree it is #4 in the terms you present it in.
Troll? Troll? I follow the link, and apply simple math, and I get trolled? Try suggesting that the data (which I was replying to) is wrong, or find an error in my simple division. Troll? Good God.
Indeed, what you say appears to be true to me, too. However, I never meant to suggest that *all* citizens have the same ideals, or motives. My government did engineer the legal fictions of corporate existence, as well as psuedo property. In a democracy, you can't assume that all citizens will have the best interests of all the citizens in their hearts at all times. Hell, you can't even assume that good people won't watch propaganda and *know* that their were WMDs, or even that "WMD where found!", etc..., ad nausem.
Still, what other avenue is there? Sheer raw power, which is money and other forms of means, versus what? This is why I can't fathom Libertarianism. The playing field is not even. When has it ever been? Democracy is a chance for the Pen rather than the Sword to protect Us from Them. Maybe.
I'm suggesting that in a democratic forum it is possible for people to have a say, to provide input, be a part of the loop, in the determination of policies that matter to them. I'm not suggesting that corporations don't have an extreme level of influence. This is occuring, however, because voters allow it to occur. In this regard, yes, I still state boldly that governments are a "check and balance" against powers, foreign and domestic, that theaten the citizenry. Currently, Fox "News" is most effective at spreading propaganda, and the citizen's are getting what they voted for...it just might be what they are told they voted for, and it might not be what is happening. Still, we are getting what we voted for...and that matters. This is like seatbelts, in that they won't work if you don't bother to use them.
Some would rather do away with the police force, and let citizens go armed, than do away with investment in human capital (such as education, welfare, etc...).
Actually, as I was taught in Graduate Quantum Mechanics, they have effectively disproven hidden variables. From our popular Wikipedia: Bell's Theorem
Bell's theorem states:
No physical theory of local hidden variables can ever reproduce all of the predictions of quantum mechanics.
This theorem has even been called "the most profound in science" (Stapp, 1975). Bell's seminal 1965 paper was entitled "On the Einstein Podolsky Rosen paradox". He showed that the assumption of local realism - that particle attributes have definite values independent of the act of observation and that physical effects have a finite propagation speed - leads to a requirement for certain types of phenomena which is not present in quantum mechanics. This requirement is called "Bell's inequality". collectively termed "Bell inequalities", they all make the same assumptions about local realism -- that a quantum-level object has a well defined state which accounts for all its measurable properties and that distant objects do not exchange information faster than the speed of light. These well defined properties are often called hidden variables. If one accepts Bell's theorem: either quantum mechanics is wrong, or local realism is wrong. Bell test experiments to date overwhelmingly show that the inequalities of Bell's theorem are violated. This provides empirical evidence against local realism and demonstrating that some of the "spooky action at a distance" suggested by the famous Einstein Podolsky Rosen (EPR) thought experiment do in fact occur. They are also taken as positive evidence in favor of QM.
The idea behind "hidden variables" was that there really is a reality within which these things are happening, and QM is just a mathematical formalism that happens to work. Apparently empirically not so. The contradictions between local reality (in which any hidden variables would be "hiding") and QM, as measured sides with QM. Hence, no local reality.
;-) Don't worry, we won't go *poof* right away 'cause the Universe has a certain amount of momentum to it's existence (with respects to Zelazny's Siddhartha). But in terms of "the emperor has no clothes", it is more like, "there is no spoon" at levels that Heisenberg uncertainty principle comes into play.
Joe Sixpack *is* going to care, because his rights are buried. Pirates *won't* care, because they can afford to buy technical solutions, and it is big business as usual.
Hardware always outpaces software. It is only now that software requirements are aborting hardware cabilities. It feels like when the US tried to limit cryptographics. We can't let mere citizens have access to things that actually work for them...
You are correct that it is undervalued, but the grand poster's point that "they own a majority share in US debt" is certainly relevant. God help U.S. if the world decides to dump US Treasury bonds. Well, God help the world...it wouldn't be pretty.
What you are leaving out is the disconnect between Law and the percieved fairness. If people really percieved sharing as "theft", we wouldn't have this issue. Passing laws that escalate the issue only aggravates the disconnect. We live in a culture that admires the ideal of Rule of Law, yet the actual state is so biased that good men can't defend it. The peversion of law in pursuit of the ends of greed isn't in the best interests of the Rule of Law.
Well, from my postings you'll see which side of this fence i sit on...but in terms of "getting into any reall wars (with equal opponets)", I have to ask: what does this mean? There are no equal opponets. My position is that being the only superpower left is no excuse to try to steal via fiat. Power only corrupts when you have no ethics.
"Barriers to trade mean little to a multinational corporation that has their entire chain from factories to sales in multiple countries."
huh?
These are *exactly* the people who *do* care about eliminating trade barriers. Farmers from developed countries want to maintain trade barriers. Both care, big time.
your link goes to "U.S. TRADE IN SERVICES BY MAJOR CATEGORY", where it seems that our total services balance is 48.5 (Billions of Dollars), with 28.5 being the balance from Royalties and License Fees. that makes it 58.763% of our total U.S. TRADE IN SERVICES. That is more that half, dude.
Actually you bias is showing: gov is bad. Starve your govenment to death, and then live in a land run by corporate power. Shareholders don't care about human rights. Governments are the only form of "checks and ballances" strong enough to stand up to corporations. Kill governments, and you kill your "inalienable" rights.
agreed that wireless is inherently insecure
does this mean that using wireless makes you responsible for the consequences?
does marketing share cupability?
"If the downloading was done on her computer, Santangelo thinks it may have been the work of a young friend of her children." I know that at my university the internet contract stipulaes that letting anyone else use my computer while it is connected to the internet is cause to have my connection severed (and I eat the semester's prepayment.) Not sure about liability if I go to the bathroom and come back to find someone was busted at my machine.
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It wouldn't make sense to "give up on" something where you are making money. However, that highlights the difference in perspective. If I am make money exporting widgets, yet as a country we import more widgets than we export, then in terms of these widgets our net balance is negative. Of course I shouldn't stop exporting, since I'm making money doing it, and if I did stop, our net balance would be more negative. In terms of which perspective is "the most important", it depends on what question is being asked, which perspective gives you a better view. If one is talking about balance of trade, then it is true that in terms of Services, IP makes up over half of our net postive balance. This is only useful when discussing the importance of IP vs. other services in terms of trade balance. It might also explain why Free Software is having trouble getting mindset traction in certain circles, however.
Yes, but if you put all of the US together, we wouldn't be doing the stuff that fractioning off into factions allows strong interests to push through. Which more likely, that we get together, or the rest of the world resolves their differences?
Ah, "slowing their uptake" is *not* "reducing their holdings". Rather it means that they are increasing their holdings slower than they were, but still increasing their holdings. Doesn't sound like the card is quite "dry". Debt is way way way beyond WWII levels, by the way. They are even beyond the levels of Ronald Regan, who made WWII look like nothing.
Well but wouldn't there also be a possiblity of a defense based on the fact that she didn't know it occured, and a reasonable person wouldn't have known that it occured? Should you go to jail if someone hotwires your car and uses it in a crime?
I looked, but couldn't find the "Goods page". Also, consider that I was presenting a balance. In terms of travel, the numbers (on the page posted) are:
Exports:74.7 Imports:64.6 Balance:10.0, whereas for Royalties and icense Fees the numbers are
Exports:51.1 Imports:22.6 Balance:28.5
and thus, while the export amount for travel is a higher number, in terms of trade balance IP is almost three times that of travel.
I surely don't vouch for the numbers, but in terms of the numbers provided, it is true that IP is over half of the service balance, even though I agree it is #4 in the terms you present it in.
Troll? Troll? I follow the link, and apply simple math, and I get trolled? Try suggesting that the data (which I was replying to) is wrong, or find an error in my simple division. Troll? Good God.
Indeed, what you say appears to be true to me, too. However, I never meant to suggest that *all* citizens have the same ideals, or motives. My government did engineer the legal fictions of corporate existence, as well as psuedo property. In a democracy, you can't assume that all citizens will have the best interests of all the citizens in their hearts at all times. Hell, you can't even assume that good people won't watch propaganda and *know* that their were WMDs, or even that "WMD where found!", etc..., ad nausem.
Still, what other avenue is there? Sheer raw power, which is money and other forms of means, versus what? This is why I can't fathom Libertarianism. The playing field is not even. When has it ever been? Democracy is a chance for the Pen rather than the Sword to protect Us from Them. Maybe.
I'm suggesting that in a democratic forum it is possible for people to have a say, to provide input, be a part of the loop, in the determination of policies that matter to them. I'm not suggesting that corporations don't have an extreme level of influence. This is occuring, however, because voters allow it to occur. In this regard, yes, I still state boldly that governments are a "check and balance" against powers, foreign and domestic, that theaten the citizenry. Currently, Fox "News" is most effective at spreading propaganda, and the citizen's are getting what they voted for...it just might be what they are told they voted for, and it might not be what is happening. Still, we are getting what we voted for...and that matters. This is like seatbelts, in that they won't work if you don't bother to use them.
Some would rather do away with the police force, and let citizens go armed, than do away with investment in human capital (such as education, welfare, etc...).
;-) Don't worry, we won't go *poof* right away 'cause the Universe has a certain amount of momentum to it's existence (with respects to Zelazny's Siddhartha). But in terms of "the emperor has no clothes", it is more like, "there is no spoon" at levels that Heisenberg uncertainty principle comes into play.
"It will only take one company..."
Wow, if only I could buy stock in that one rogue manufacturer, now!
Joe Sixpack *is* going to care, because his rights are buried. Pirates *won't* care, because they can afford to buy technical solutions, and it is big business as usual.
0 Hz? Isn't that silence?
Hardware always outpaces software. It is only now that software requirements are aborting hardware cabilities. It feels like when the US tried to limit cryptographics. We can't let mere citizens have access to things that actually work for them...
Why should the police care if the actions are legal?
You are correct that it is undervalued, but the grand poster's point that "they own a majority share in US debt" is certainly relevant. God help U.S. if the world decides to dump US Treasury bonds. Well, God help the world...it wouldn't be pretty.
What about the War against the People that Nixon started? Wasn't the War against Popular Culture the 3rd war?
What you are leaving out is the disconnect between Law and the percieved fairness. If people really percieved sharing as "theft", we wouldn't have this issue. Passing laws that escalate the issue only aggravates the disconnect. We live in a culture that admires the ideal of Rule of Law, yet the actual state is so biased that good men can't defend it. The peversion of law in pursuit of the ends of greed isn't in the best interests of the Rule of Law.
Well, from my postings you'll see which side of this fence i sit on...but in terms of "getting into any reall wars (with equal opponets)", I have to ask: what does this mean? There are no equal opponets. My position is that being the only superpower left is no excuse to try to steal via fiat. Power only corrupts when you have no ethics.
"Barriers to trade mean little to a multinational corporation that has their entire chain from factories to sales in multiple countries."
huh?
These are *exactly* the people who *do* care about eliminating trade barriers. Farmers from developed countries want to maintain trade barriers. Both care, big time.
your link goes to "U.S. TRADE IN SERVICES BY MAJOR CATEGORY", where it seems that our total services balance is 48.5 (Billions of Dollars), with 28.5 being the balance from Royalties and License Fees. that makes it 58.763% of our total U.S. TRADE IN SERVICES. That is more that half, dude.
Actually you bias is showing: gov is bad. Starve your govenment to death, and then live in a land run by corporate power. Shareholders don't care about human rights. Governments are the only form of "checks and ballances" strong enough to stand up to corporations. Kill governments, and you kill your "inalienable" rights.
Real property is recognized universally. Psuedo property is recognized after F-16s have killed those who would dare say aloud, "the emperor is naked."
agreed that wireless is inherently insecure
does this mean that using wireless makes you responsible for the consequences?
does marketing share cupability?
"If the downloading was done on her computer, Santangelo thinks it may have been the work of a young friend of her children." I know that at my university the internet contract stipulaes that letting anyone else use my computer while it is connected to the internet is cause to have my connection severed (and I eat the semester's prepayment.) Not sure about liability if I go to the bathroom and come back to find someone was busted at my machine.