Have you actually looked at the price for the connectors to those technologies? It's outrageous, to say the least.
Maybe the technologies work, but man... not at a competitive price. We did a full analysis of alternatives to replace our aging Exchange 5.5 machine. We do need Calendaring, and all the goodies that go with outlook/exchange functionality because the CEO, upper brass, secretaries, etc, all use the features fully. We are evaluating Novell Groupwise right now, but we've ran the gammet so to speak with the alternatives. Remember, you don't want to alienate everyone, you want them to be able to transition over to a new interface without learning everything over again. Intuitiveness is a necessity in a changeover of that magnitude. Another thing to note is if you change like that, you have to have a Windows alternative to Outlook. You can't re-invent the whole corporations desktop in one foul swoop.:(
It hurts, but it's true.
At least Groupwise has a little outlook functionality... I just hate the fact that it only runs on uber-expensive Linux distributions.
How does someone enforcing copyright restrictions on their material have anything whatsoever to do with a car I bought that you would turn off by remote?
Not very good at analogies and seeing the similarities between two situations, are we? The car is the computer (both hold stuff, or have the ability to), the software/MP3/Music CD/Digitized Movie/whatever is the stuff. (waits for it...)
Do you even know what a copyright violation is, or how flagrant it is these days?
Yes, and in this context it's using something without purchasing the ability to use it. However, in no manner should anyone have built-in safeguards that are severely biased towards the copyright owner to "safeguard" the copyright. It'd be different if you rented the computer from them, but you own it. It would also be different if you rented your car from me, but you own it.
PC game makers can barely make money as it is. With a DRM license, you'd never have to enter a CD key. You'd have the DRM license on your computer, so it would just run.
A CD key was a severely stupid idea in the beginning. Easily copied, and just another stepping stone to actually getting the thing working in the beginning. DRM/TCPA/LockJaw (or whatever codename they're giving to it) will just be another stepping stone, and circumvented by the same people. If a person wants to do it, they will. Does that mean they have the right to watch everyones hand while it holds their merchandise? No. It's analogous to putting a remote kill on a car. Guitly until proven innocent.
Please, get outside of Slashdot once in a while. This place wants you to think absolutely everything outside of OSS is bad, evil, and "bloatware."
I'll refrain from commenting on this, it's obvious you've been reading slashdot for too long because you've managed to make a form of judgement about the collective. I buy games, I buy software. I also use Linux (almost) exclusively at home and work. The rare time I use Windows is for the few games I play, and don't work under either Wine or some other software. I just have issues with someone plugging locks into my computer to keep me from using it unless they give a nod. Even after I bought the merchandise.
Let me put an ignition kill-switch on your vehicle. It'll make me feel much safer as you could use your car to take my property with it.
It's my property, and why shouldn't I have the ability to protect it? After all, you're driving something that is designed to have stuff in it. Next thing you know, you'll have my stuff in it. I'm only looking out for my property rights.
You obviously have been rejected by someone who drove a manual transmission I see. Either that, or shutdown a couple of times, and now you have some vendetta against people who drive manual transmissions. Either way, you need to look at the facts. There is no physical advantage in any way to an automatic transmission other than there being more time to pick your nose. This is, of course, barring anything other than street-legal cars.
Just because you say no one will admit it doesn't make it true. It just means your bitter. You need to enjoy one once or twice. It's not like pot, it won't do anything to your brain.
Since we're now arguing phonetical symantecs, I'll digress. There are no winners in that, merely people who are both wrong.
That's what I do right now. Whenever I have a CD, I rip it into FLAC format and keep it in my music repository. Because I convert to several formats, keeping a lossless one around and converting to the lossy ones is much nicer than converting from a lossy to a lossy.
I can afford the disk space... it's very minimal nowadays. I just need to invest in one of those greater-than-4-ide-drive cards soon.
Jesus man, Oracle is a database. I realize it's 100x bigger than most operating systems, but that doesn't mean it needs to do the same thing:)
Name one time Oracle had to enumerate a PCI bus and perform plug-n-play driver loading? I know it's an asinine comparison, but really... Oracle is a database. (well, at it's core) It stores data. That's what it does. All they do is take out some of the frivolous stuff to make it take less ram.
The definition of an automatic transmission as we know it today is not just a simple seperation of the two words "automatic" and "transmission" It's a technology all on it's own. Take a look at a schematic once in a Chilton manual available at any autoparts store. It's intricate, and very error-prone. You have a thing called a torque converter that is essentially a very modern water-wheel, You have clutch packs that are pushed by hydraulic fluid, and everything is this rube goldberg effect.
Manual transmission: 2 or so rows of gears, meshed together, always in sync. A shifter fork assembly moves synchronizer gears into place as you shift, into the proper gears. You push the clutch in, it moves a plate with a brake-like surface away from a metal plate much like a disc brake. Let it go, it closes back up, turns that plate (pressure plate), transfers the power to one of the rows of gears I mentioned, and whichever synchronizer gear is in effect at that time transfers the power to the other row of gears. (exit the rear of the transmission, to differential, or CV axles, rear or frontwheel drive depending)
As you see, there is alot more physical energy being transferred with a manual transmission. No power lost in hydraulic pumping, no power being robbed by a torque converter (direct connect by the clutch).
Even these cars that say they are both are really just automatics where you can select the gear. In rare cases there are exceptions, of course. I've never seen the inside of an F1 transmission, or seen an exploded view of one, so I can't say.. but it more than likely is a manual transmission that has a computer controlled clutch. It's also not a street car, and has far different technology than anything used on the street.
Constantly having to shift gears takes the fun out of driving. It's like coding a database software like Oracle entirely in assembler - you totally miss the point...
Jesus, you make it sound like you have to wiggle the stick around constantly just to make the car go when you have a manual. There are only 4-6 gears.... 1st gear up to 15-20mph, 2nd up to 30-35, 3rd up to 45-50, fourth to 60, and fifth from there on. The best part is, that's not even written in stone. If you want to conserve gas, shift at a low rpm, if you want to drive agressively, keep the rpms high for easy response from the turbo... or if you don't have a turbo, just easy and quick response from the engine itself. Not to mention there's no need to worry about hydraulic fluid overheating, or the pains that come from automatics. Just replace the clutch every 60K miles or so, maintain gearbox grease, and your good to go. (or in my case, gearbox ATF fluid)
I have a 5-speed, and I've only had 2 automatics in my life. I got rid of my auto camaro (4-bbl, fully tuned, overbored, etc) and bought a 5-speed 91 Capri. Believe it or not, I actually have alot more fun driving the Capri than the Camaro. I have a feeling it's a control factor in a way. That, and feeling like you're actually doing something more than sitting there holding a round object in your hand for 40 mins a morning....
Although, I do miss those times when I was just really in a gritty mood, pulled out of the driveway and just laid into all the barrels at once...sat and smoked the rear wheels literally until I let off the accelerator. But then again it got 10-12MPH or so, would have been a killer with these fuel prices.
Not to mention that it just feels too damn good to drop it down 2 gears as your headed towards a tight turn, feel the wheels grip the road when you release the clutch, and assuringly run through the turn because you know you are controlling the shifting.
That, and no need to mash the petel just to get a lower gear...
I took early retirement last year, and that's all I was making then, after 30 years. If I had it to do all over again, I'd be an electrician, or a machinist, or a welder. Anything but a goddamned software slave. It wasn't worth it.
I almost took the route of machinist. I trained in high school at a vocational school halfdays for 3 years. (school let us out at 10:00 to go over there) I was pretty good at it too, helps me out alot today fixing my car and such. But, when I got out of high school and noticed the top notch pay ($30-$40/Hour for a TOP knotch Engineer) I kind of cringed.
Mind you, this was before the whole dot-com fiasco even started, so the overinflated salaries of IT didn't put stars in my eyes... it sucked. It's also a dieing trade.... CNC machines are taking alot of jobs away from that realm. One programmer to do the job of a group of 3 or more very fast and precise machinists.... (well, alright, a machinist programmer with knowledge of geometric tolerancing)
Anyway.. my rant about that:) not against you. It just sparked some memories.
Spacy people can have a lot to contribute. The way Lamo describes himself reminds me of George Fox, founder of the Quaker religion (as quoted by William James in Varieties of Religious Experience):
We use an HP Procurve switch, and it has blades you can put in to add different functionality. Now, we have a 100Base network, though our Netapp needs 1000Base. Since we were ordering it, we picked up 3 1000Base cards for the Procurve, and no throughput depreciation. If you're willing to pay the cash for a Procurve in a datacenter, along with the cards, that's the way to go.
People knew they had better options than MS-DOS and chose it despite it's limitations because it was the "devil you know". That in itself made it valuable (to the its users).
MS-DOS filled a void. That's the reason.
BSD was pretty much retired by the UNIX industry in the early 90s. This had nothing to do with Microsoft.
BSD could have filled a void, and not have been "retired" by the Unix industry. Besides, what does the Unix industry have to do with BSD? I know the Unix industry has nothing to do with Linux and it's making inroads to filling a void. If Microsoft wasn't around, and BSD was able to fill the void it would have been a contender. Of course, Linux would have still been around dispite that. Everything in general would have taken a different evolutionary path.
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Or at the very least pick up a relatively cheap router/firewall they sell at the local CompUSA/Best Buy/Fry's Electronics, and turn firewalling on.
Have you actually looked at the price for the connectors to those technologies?
:(
It's outrageous, to say the least.
Maybe the technologies work, but man... not at a competitive price.
We did a full analysis of alternatives to replace our aging Exchange 5.5 machine. We do need Calendaring, and all the goodies that go with outlook/exchange functionality because the CEO, upper brass, secretaries, etc, all use the features fully. We are evaluating Novell Groupwise right now, but we've ran the gammet so to speak with the alternatives. Remember, you don't want to alienate everyone, you want them to be able to transition over to a new interface without learning everything over again. Intuitiveness is a necessity in a changeover of that magnitude.
Another thing to note is if you change like that, you have to have a Windows alternative to Outlook. You can't re-invent the whole corporations desktop in one foul swoop.
It hurts, but it's true.
At least Groupwise has a little outlook functionality... I just hate the fact that it only runs on uber-expensive Linux distributions.
How does someone enforcing copyright restrictions on their material have anything whatsoever to do with a car I bought that you would turn off by remote?
Not very good at analogies and seeing the similarities between two situations, are we?
The car is the computer (both hold stuff, or have the ability to), the software/MP3/Music CD/Digitized Movie/whatever is the stuff. (waits for it...)
Do you even know what a copyright violation is, or how flagrant it is these days?
Yes, and in this context it's using something without purchasing the ability to use it. However, in no manner should anyone have built-in safeguards that are severely biased towards the copyright owner to "safeguard" the copyright. It'd be different if you rented the computer from them, but you own it. It would also be different if you rented your car from me, but you own it.
PC game makers can barely make money as it is. With a DRM license, you'd never have to enter a CD key. You'd have the DRM license on your computer, so it would just run.
A CD key was a severely stupid idea in the beginning. Easily copied, and just another stepping stone to actually getting the thing working in the beginning. DRM/TCPA/LockJaw (or whatever codename they're giving to it) will just be another stepping stone, and circumvented by the same people. If a person wants to do it, they will. Does that mean they have the right to watch everyones hand while it holds their merchandise? No. It's analogous to putting a remote kill on a car. Guitly until proven innocent.
Please, get outside of Slashdot once in a while. This place wants you to think absolutely everything outside of OSS is bad, evil, and "bloatware."
I'll refrain from commenting on this, it's obvious you've been reading slashdot for too long because you've managed to make a form of judgement about the collective. I buy games, I buy software. I also use Linux (almost) exclusively at home and work. The rare time I use Windows is for the few games I play, and don't work under either Wine or some other software. I just have issues with someone plugging locks into my computer to keep me from using it unless they give a nod. Even after I bought the merchandise.
More of a "thunking" layer than an emulator.
Right, because that's what CDs are. They're WAV format, essentially. raw if I'm not mistaken. It's not an issue....
The WAV are automatically converted to whatever you want them to be. I download them in MP3 format (highest bitrate, CD quality)
Let me put an ignition kill-switch on your vehicle. It'll make me feel much safer as you could use your car to take my property with it.
It's my property, and why shouldn't I have the ability to protect it? After all, you're driving something that is designed to have stuff in it. Next thing you know, you'll have my stuff in it. I'm only looking out for my property rights.
Dude, I would love to see that. :)
When's it coming to Arizona!?
Connecticut's a bit far...
You obviously have been rejected by someone who drove a manual transmission I see. Either that, or shutdown a couple of times, and now you have some vendetta against people who drive manual transmissions. Either way, you need to look at the facts. There is no physical advantage in any way to an automatic transmission other than there being more time to pick your nose.
This is, of course, barring anything other than street-legal cars.
Just because you say no one will admit it doesn't make it true. It just means your bitter. You need to enjoy one once or twice. It's not like pot, it won't do anything to your brain.
Since we're now arguing phonetical symantecs, I'll digress. There are no winners in that, merely people who are both wrong.
Actually I really meant engineer, as in a person who's gone to college, trained, gone through being a journeyman, etc.
I feel for you, I really do. I loved it when I was doing it, but I just couldn't handle the money.
Umm...
check into the online encoding.
That's what I do right now. Whenever I have a CD, I rip it into FLAC format and keep it in my music repository. Because I convert to several formats, keeping a lossless one around and converting to the lossy ones is much nicer than converting from a lossy to a lossy.
I can afford the disk space... it's very minimal nowadays. I just need to invest in one of those greater-than-4-ide-drive cards soon.
Jesus man, Oracle is a database. I realize it's 100x bigger than most operating systems, but that doesn't mean it needs to do the same thing :)
Name one time Oracle had to enumerate a PCI bus and perform plug-n-play driver loading?
I know it's an asinine comparison, but really... Oracle is a database. (well, at it's core) It stores data. That's what it does. All they do is take out some of the frivolous stuff to make it take less ram.
to work out of the box.
:D
on that level, mom&pop may be in pretty good shape.
Financially, or otherwise?
The definition of an automatic transmission as we know it today is not just a simple seperation of the two words "automatic" and "transmission" It's a technology all on it's own. Take a look at a schematic once in a Chilton manual available at any autoparts store. It's intricate, and very error-prone. You have a thing called a torque converter that is essentially a very modern water-wheel, You have clutch packs that are pushed by hydraulic fluid, and everything is this rube goldberg effect.
Manual transmission: 2 or so rows of gears, meshed together, always in sync. A shifter fork assembly moves synchronizer gears into place as you shift, into the proper gears. You push the clutch in, it moves a plate with a brake-like surface away from a metal plate much like a disc brake. Let it go, it closes back up, turns that plate (pressure plate), transfers the power to one of the rows of gears I mentioned, and whichever synchronizer gear is in effect at that time transfers the power to the other row of gears. (exit the rear of the transmission, to differential, or CV axles, rear or frontwheel drive depending)
As you see, there is alot more physical energy being transferred with a manual transmission. No power lost in hydraulic pumping, no power being robbed by a torque converter (direct connect by the clutch).
Even these cars that say they are both are really just automatics where you can select the gear. In rare cases there are exceptions, of course. I've never seen the inside of an F1 transmission, or seen an exploded view of one, so I can't say.. but it more than likely is a manual transmission that has a computer controlled clutch. It's also not a street car, and has far different technology than anything used on the street.
Constantly having to shift gears takes the fun out of driving. It's like coding a database software like Oracle entirely in assembler - you totally miss the point...
Jesus, you make it sound like you have to wiggle the stick around constantly just to make the car go when you have a manual. There are only 4-6 gears.... 1st gear up to 15-20mph, 2nd up to 30-35, 3rd up to 45-50, fourth to 60, and fifth from there on. The best part is, that's not even written in stone. If you want to conserve gas, shift at a low rpm, if you want to drive agressively, keep the rpms high for easy response from the turbo... or if you don't have a turbo, just easy and quick response from the engine itself. Not to mention there's no need to worry about hydraulic fluid overheating, or the pains that come from automatics. Just replace the clutch every 60K miles or so, maintain gearbox grease, and your good to go. (or in my case, gearbox ATF fluid)
I have a 5-speed, and I've only had 2 automatics in my life. I got rid of my auto camaro (4-bbl, fully tuned, overbored, etc) and bought a 5-speed 91 Capri. Believe it or not, I actually have alot more fun driving the Capri than the Camaro. I have a feeling it's a control factor in a way. That, and feeling like you're actually doing something more than sitting there holding a round object in your hand for 40 mins a morning....
Although, I do miss those times when I was just really in a gritty mood, pulled out of the driveway and just laid into all the barrels at once...sat and smoked the rear wheels literally until I let off the accelerator. But then again it got 10-12MPH or so, would have been a killer with these fuel prices.
Not to mention that it just feels too damn good to drop it down 2 gears as your headed towards a tight turn, feel the wheels grip the road when you release the clutch, and assuringly run through the turn because you know you are controlling the shifting.
That, and no need to mash the petel just to get a lower gear...
Oh yes, that's all we need.. another person running around like Balmer, screaming "ROI! ROI! ROI!" :)
I took early retirement last year, and that's all I was making then, after 30 years. If I had it to do all over again, I'd be an electrician, or a machinist, or a welder. Anything but a goddamned software slave. It wasn't worth it.
:) not against you. It just sparked some memories.
I almost took the route of machinist. I trained in high school at a vocational school halfdays for 3 years. (school let us out at 10:00 to go over there)
I was pretty good at it too, helps me out alot today fixing my car and such. But, when I got out of high school and noticed the top notch pay ($30-$40/Hour for a TOP knotch Engineer) I kind of cringed.
Mind you, this was before the whole dot-com fiasco even started, so the overinflated salaries of IT didn't put stars in my eyes... it sucked. It's also a dieing trade.... CNC machines are taking alot of jobs away from that realm. One programmer to do the job of a group of 3 or more very fast and precise machinists.... (well, alright, a machinist programmer with knowledge of geometric tolerancing)
Anyway.. my rant about that
Spacy people can have a lot to contribute. The way Lamo describes himself reminds me of George Fox, founder of the Quaker religion (as quoted by William James in Varieties of Religious Experience):
Yet another form of schizophrenia....
We use an HP Procurve switch, and it has blades you can put in to add different functionality. Now, we have a 100Base network, though our Netapp needs 1000Base. Since we were ordering it, we picked up 3 1000Base cards for the Procurve, and no throughput depreciation. If you're willing to pay the cash for a Procurve in a datacenter, along with the cards, that's the way to go.
The old xconfig toolkit is Tk FYI.
:P
You are correct.
I never heard anyone blathering on about having to install Tk "to compile the kernel"
Who cares if it's GPL? It's a big pile of crap that shouldn't be necessary to compile the Linux kernel.
*rolls eyes* It's not, use what the other 99% use, make menuconfig.
If you really want to get nutty, use make config.
Interestingly, most nuclear tests were done deep underground. And yet, the world still didn't explode.
the lack of damage would have nothing to do with the tests being done in the middle of the desert would it?
People knew they had better options than MS-DOS and chose it despite it's limitations because it was the "devil you know". That in itself made it valuable (to the its users).
MS-DOS filled a void. That's the reason.
BSD was pretty much retired by the UNIX industry in the early 90s. This had nothing to do with Microsoft.
BSD could have filled a void, and not have been "retired" by the Unix industry. Besides, what does the Unix industry have to do with BSD? I know the Unix industry has nothing to do with Linux and it's making inroads to filling a void. If Microsoft wasn't around, and BSD was able to fill the void it would have been a contender. Of course, Linux would have still been around dispite that. Everything in general would have taken a different evolutionary path.
Cal me when you can freeze water in that device... Until then I'll stick to my solar fridge that cost $395.00
Let's see, in my calculations $395 is a bit more than this device.
Also, the next time your in the third-world areas, see how many people can afford a $395 solar fridge. This is obviously not geared towards you.