You know well enough that if the success rate of the BSA is above average, they will form a small "task force" so to speak to audit average consumers. It's only a matter of time, and it won't take long.
Hell, the only thing they would have to do is change the EULA to include the necessity to check ID and information before a company is allowed to sell Windows to a consumer. Then, it's databased (for the good of economic stability of course) and a small bit of code in the OS will bounce on the database every so often to see if it's legit against a serial number/Name of owner main database. Much like XP today, except XP is mild in comparison.
Well now... if they are successful in doing this (with so little to really gain considering if the patent ends in 2004, that leaves them 2 years to try to clean up) then what is to stop Microsoft from trying to do the same thing with CIFS (SMB)? I mean, they are already trying to put limitations and restrictions on the use of the CIFS protocol even as it's being reviewed by the standards boards.
I definately have to agree with you there... the only problem I have with Grip is that it starts to get all sorts of whacky on certain tracks and just sits there constantly reading it. (then after a long while just stops reading and forgets about that track with a 128bit stub file for the mp3)
but other than that, it's a great peice of software!
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the ones on icecast don't tell the compression scheme, so it's hard to tell.
From the sounds of the stations though, it's definately not OGG:)
As most audiophiles will tell you, it's not science it's art:)
Basically boiling down to saying, "I look down my nose at this rubbish! pith, pith.. go away you lossy algorithym, for I deem you unsatisfactory." When in actuality you can tell the difference emmensely... in the opposite polarity. It's more than obvious which is better, if you bother to use 1.0 and rip a song or two from a CD then convert it in the different formats. OGG sounds crisper, cleaner, and to top it all off the size is smaller. Even if it wasn't GPL software, this is something to marvel over.
I just ripped Marilyn Manson's "The Speed of Pain" (has a bunch of ups and downs in the frequency so I can analyze it) and even at -1 quality it's acceptable. At >1 I really couldn't tell the difference between the WAV and the OGG. The song is 5m30s and the MP3 (128kBits, 44.1Khz, Stereo) measured in at approx 5.2mb (5,281,459 bytes). The OGG file (that sounds close to the quality of the MP3) is of Quality 1, and it measures in at approx. 3.2mb (3,162,226 bytes).
For fairness I did force 128bit with the -b flag of the oggenc utility, and it sounds much better in the highs and lows than the MP3, but measures in at 5.1mb (5,104,675 bytes).
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hell, I haven't even hit any copy protection yet... and I buy cds all the time.
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heh.. beg to differ. Ogg has the ability to be played under Windows, OS/2, Linux,... and have easy to use software to encode/decode/listen already.
Hell, there is even a (admittedly beta) codec for Windows already. Now, stop bitching and just use the damn thing if you want. Other than that, get off the "Oh my god, something else is around, and it can't be better because MP3 rocks" bandwagon. It's ONE hell of alot better, and it takes alot for me to say something like that considering I'm conservative about adopting new standards.
Hey wow, thats pretty cool, I have about the same case! Mine has more fans in it though, it has one on the side panel, one in the back, and 4 in the front (not including the power supply) and has a 350 watt powersupply. (all for 60 bucks, least I could find in my area)
Good buy ya got there, I commend you. Those cases are solid, and very nicely designed for the price!
I hope he does it near my hometown. I always wanted to visit that crater in Arizona, but it is too far and too hot.
It's in Winslow (or the outskirts, closer really to flagstaff) so it's not really all that hot. Been there about 2-3 times. He'd only make that big of hole if he was made of iron and lead and huge.:)
I don't understand, you broke the disk you paid for and then you feel justified to go download it from the net? Ok, so if I break my ATI video card, can I feel justified to go to best buy and just take one with out paying for it? I don't understand your Logic.
Uhhh, YES... you are justified to be able to get another copy without buying it. That is the pure reason for backups!
Your ATI card is a tangible product, you didn't buy the rights to a peice of software on a cheap.05 peice of plastic that did the work, you purchased a card that is hardware and the money you spent was on the thing that broke. With a CD, if you scratch it, it's not good any longer... however it wasn't the CD you bought int he first place it was the music on it.
If I have all the metallica albums (well, I do except for the first Garage Days) I am entitled to have every single Metallica song on MP3, VOC, WAV, OGG, 8-Track (hey, it's my choice if I want that:), or any other media granted that I didn't steal it from the store. (which takes money from the store because they paid money for that CD in the first place and lose that money when that tangible object leaves without any form of monetary contribution).
See, that is the reason why the whole MP3 market is there, today. Contrary to popular belief, the entire consumer world isn't turning into criminals by offering MP3 players in cars (see BMW, Chrysler, and most consumer audio companies) and portable devices. It's a right we have...
Now, if you haven't purchased it in the first place, thats a whole other story.
this has nothing to do with terrorism. Please, lets not resort to that, or we'll have the FBI, CIA, NSA, and every other "blue blooded patriot" all over this....:)
I'm sure you can find yourself that 2000 Vette at a used car dealership, and probably get yourself one hell of a deal considering the prices of the 2002 model.
I beg to differ, considering I have both installed.
I haven't beat it into the ground as hard as win2k yet, so I can't comment on the stability. It should be about the same though, considering the kernels are almost identical.
As with any movement, you have to take an intermediate step before you reach the ultimate goal.
If you remember or not, it took a while to get windows applications on Win3.1. You were merely running dos applications with a few Windows apps. The same is true if you are migrating to another operating system such as Linux. If there are applications that are tied to a certain OS, you do what is necessary to use them while you are migrating. At least the possibility is there, instead of what happened with tape backups when Win95 came out. ( most didn't provide drivers and the old ones didn't work anymore )
You speak of this utopia of software in use by "the world" today, and ask, "why aren't you upgrading?"
If something isn't broke, don't fix it. Just for the record, NT4 wasn't too nightmarish, it was able to withstand quite a bit. Not anymore nightmarish than Win2K.. now that was a bear to get working with existing technologies.
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You know well enough that if the success rate of the BSA is above average, they will form a small "task force" so to speak to audit average consumers.
It's only a matter of time, and it won't take long.
Hell, the only thing they would have to do is change the EULA to include the necessity to check ID and information before a company is allowed to sell Windows to a consumer. Then, it's databased (for the good of economic stability of course) and a small bit of code in the OS will bounce on the database every so often to see if it's legit against a serial number/Name of owner main database. Much like XP today, except XP is mild in comparison.
Well now... if they are successful in doing this (with so little to really gain considering if the patent ends in 2004, that leaves them 2 years to try to clean up) then what is to stop Microsoft from trying to do the same thing with CIFS (SMB)?
I mean, they are already trying to put limitations and restrictions on the use of the CIFS protocol even as it's being reviewed by the standards boards.
I definately have to agree with you there... the only problem I have with Grip is that it starts to get all sorts of whacky on certain tracks and just sits there constantly reading it. (then after a long while just stops reading and forgets about that track with a 128bit stub file for the mp3)
but other than that, it's a great peice of software!
the ones on icecast don't tell the compression scheme, so it's hard to tell.
:)
From the sounds of the stations though, it's definately not OGG
and the answer?
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Palladium
Ohhh yeah...
Somehow I see that as being a redundant road....
As most audiophiles will tell you, it's not science it's art :)
Basically boiling down to saying, "I look down my nose at this rubbish! pith, pith.. go away you lossy algorithym, for I deem you unsatisfactory."
When in actuality you can tell the difference emmensely... in the opposite polarity. It's more than obvious which is better, if you bother to use 1.0 and rip a song or two from a CD then convert it in the different formats. OGG sounds crisper, cleaner, and to top it all off the size is smaller. Even if it wasn't GPL software, this is something to marvel over.
I just ripped Marilyn Manson's "The Speed of Pain" (has a bunch of ups and downs in the frequency so I can analyze it) and even at -1 quality it's acceptable. At >1 I really couldn't tell the difference between the WAV and the OGG. The song is 5m30s and the MP3 (128kBits, 44.1Khz, Stereo) measured in at approx 5.2mb (5,281,459 bytes). The OGG file (that sounds close to the quality of the MP3) is of Quality 1, and it measures in at approx. 3.2mb (3,162,226 bytes).
For fairness I did force 128bit with the -b flag of the oggenc utility, and it sounds much better in the highs and lows than the MP3, but measures in at 5.1mb (5,104,675 bytes).
hell, I haven't even hit any copy protection yet... and I buy cds all the time.
heh.. beg to differ. ... and have easy to use software to encode/decode/listen already.
Ogg has the ability to be played under Windows, OS/2, Linux,
Hell, there is even a (admittedly beta) codec for Windows already. Now, stop bitching and just use the damn thing if you want. Other than that, get off the "Oh my god, something else is around, and it can't be better because MP3 rocks" bandwagon. It's ONE hell of alot better, and it takes alot for me to say something like that considering I'm conservative about adopting new standards.
Hey wow, thats pretty cool, I have about the same case! Mine has more fans in it though, it has one on the side panel, one in the back, and 4 in the front (not including the power supply) and has a 350 watt powersupply. (all for 60 bucks, least I could find in my area)
Good buy ya got there, I commend you. Those cases are solid, and very nicely designed for the price!
Yeah, if your not a true geek :)
*butt, I noticed just after posting. I can spel butt. It's not like I'm stupid
Nope, your not stupid, but you missed the 'l' at the end of spell, so you might want to use that preview button!
I hope he does it near my hometown. I always wanted to visit that crater in Arizona, but it is too far and too hot.
:)
It's in Winslow (or the outskirts, closer really to flagstaff) so it's not really all that hot. Been there about 2-3 times. He'd only make that big of hole if he was made of iron and lead and huge.
I think the east coast is pretty much beyond repair.
:)
We've realized our problems and use the east coast as a refuge dump, leaving the rest of the world clean with our new-found technology
I don't know of many P2P proxies...
I don't understand, you broke the disk you paid for and then you feel justified to go download it from the net? Ok, so if I break my ATI video card, can I feel justified to go to best buy and just take one with out paying for it? I don't understand your Logic.
.05 peice of plastic that did the work, you purchased a card that is hardware and the money you spent was on the thing that broke. With a CD, if you scratch it, it's not good any longer... however it wasn't the CD you bought int he first place it was the music on it.
Uhhh, YES... you are justified to be able to get another copy without buying it. That is the pure reason for backups!
Your ATI card is a tangible product, you didn't buy the rights to a peice of software on a cheap
If I have all the metallica albums (well, I do except for the first Garage Days) I am entitled to have every single Metallica song on MP3, VOC, WAV, OGG, 8-Track (hey, it's my choice if I want that:), or any other media granted that I didn't steal it from the store. (which takes money from the store because they paid money for that CD in the first place and lose that money when that tangible object leaves without any form of monetary contribution).
See, that is the reason why the whole MP3 market is there, today. Contrary to popular belief, the entire consumer world isn't turning into criminals by offering MP3 players in cars (see BMW, Chrysler, and most consumer audio companies) and portable devices. It's a right we have...
Now, if you haven't purchased it in the first place, thats a whole other story.
this has nothing to do with terrorism. :)
Please, lets not resort to that, or we'll have the FBI, CIA, NSA, and every other "blue blooded patriot" all over this....
ugh..internet version of ED-209 :)
Well, thats a dead link to ibms site.. but this one might be of some use considering this article and whats coming in the future:
x /librar y/l-mfc/
Porting MFC applications to Linux
http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linu
Maybe we can start getting some of those apps over to Linux.
I'm sure you can find yourself that 2000 Vette at a used car dealership, and probably get yourself one hell of a deal considering the prices of the 2002 model.
Get the drift?
WinXP is *faster* than Win2K?
I beg to differ, considering I have both installed.
I haven't beat it into the ground as hard as win2k yet, so I can't comment on the stability. It should be about the same though, considering the kernels are almost identical.
At the very least they could provide a selection of themes on their website to download for free so you could get rid of that ugly as hell interface.
Yeesh... that was one of the major things I HATED about it during the beta! It's a wonder they kept it.
As with any movement, you have to take an intermediate step before you reach the ultimate goal.
If you remember or not, it took a while to get windows applications on Win3.1. You were merely running dos applications with a few Windows apps. The same is true if you are migrating to another operating system such as Linux. If there are applications that are tied to a certain OS, you do what is necessary to use them while you are migrating. At least the possibility is there, instead of what happened with tape backups when Win95 came out. ( most didn't provide drivers and the old ones didn't work anymore )
I hardly think that the free software foundation or trolltech pull the practices that Microsoft does with it's licenses.
Let's try to stay within the realm of discussion here and not pull out assinine remarks that have no relevance.
You sound like a marketer... yeesh.
You speak of this utopia of software in use by "the world" today, and ask, "why aren't you upgrading?"
If something isn't broke, don't fix it. Just for the record, NT4 wasn't too nightmarish, it was able to withstand quite a bit. Not anymore nightmarish than Win2K.. now that was a bear to get working with existing technologies.