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Mac-Case Clone for PCs

An anonymous reader writes "Ever wanted a Mac case for your pc? Well this is your lucky day. Well sort of... you can read a preview of this yet-to-be-released case at hardware-unlimited.com." Smart design -- Now, if only this came in black ...

217 comments

  1. Nice! by Spazzz · · Score: 2, Troll

    Wonder how long it'll be before Apple sues them for "look and feel" infringement, though?

    1. Re:Nice! by Bedouin+X · · Score: 4, Informative

      Nobody because the damn thing looks NOTHING like a Mac case. It doesn't have the 4 handles like a Mac case, the drive covers aren't nearly as seamless, it doesn't open like a Mac case, the drives don't floor mount like a Mac case. It seems to have that slippery covering like a Mac case but I'm inclined to think that even that is a subpar knockoff.

      Pathetic... and I'm not even a big Mac fan, I'd hate to hear what they have to say.

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    2. Re:Nice! by Krapangor · · Score: 1

      There were already Mac "clones" (i.e. Windos PCs with iMac-style case) during the first iMac wave and Apple sued them into oblivion.
      I suppose, Apple will it make soon impossible to pretend being smart by buying a special computer case.

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    3. Re:Nice! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hahahah thats funny. Yeah nice mac clone. Looks like another crappy attempt to mac a PC case look like a Mac and in the process failing miserably. Oh yeah The curces somhow remided me of the new G4 case. BLA wtf are you guys thinkin.? Terrible MAC CLONE CASE ...

    4. Re:Nice! by Analog+Penguin · · Score: 1

      To be fair, this isn't nearly as obvious a knockoff as those iMac "clones". I saw a picture of the eMachines beastie once; that was infringement waiting to happen.

      You also have to remember that the iMac was an almost completely unique design at the time (or, if not, at least it was the first of its kind to become widespread). It's a lot easier to say "hey, we did that first" with a fruity all-in-one system that nobody had really seen before Apple came out with it than it is to say the same of a tower whose major features are plastic sides and "seamless" drive bays.

      Therefore, I doubt if they will make a huge stink about this, or if they do, that it will get very far.

    5. Re:Nice! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Apple seldom cares about functionality. They concern themselves with 'trade dress', as that's really their forte.

    6. Re:Nice! by GutBomb · · Score: 2

      mac cases are not just snazz. they are very functional as well (dumb handles aside)

    7. Re:Nice! by tswinzig · · Score: 3, Funny

      Pathetic... and I'm not even a big Mac fan

      You're a Burger King kind of guy, right?

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    8. Re:Nice! by Nogami_Saeko · · Score: 1

      Well, Apple does have to protect their case design, after all, it does generate a large portion of their sales for the interior decorating crowd...

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    9. Re:Nice! by neuroticia · · Score: 1

      Funny, I was thinking it was an improvement on the Mac. My major complaints about the Mac case are: 1- the four handles make it NOT fit on my desk, I have to bunjee cord it in place. 2- You need to be REALLY careful closing a Mac because if the latch doesn't click just-right, the case will fall open. Somehow I don't think that it's a good thing for the motherboard to go crashing down. The latches also like to break. Gimme a single-thumbscrew closure any day. 3- I like my drives stacked, it makes for easier cabling and adjustments.

      -Sara

    10. Re:Nice! by zinzarin · · Score: 1

      Apple doesn't care about functionality? Have you ever seen the case for a G4 PowerMac? The ultra-portable handles? The motherboard attached to the swing-down side door for the easiest access to expansion slots the market has seen?

    11. Re:Nice! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You suck.

  2. But why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't want a Mac case. Why would anybody? They're ugly, even if the hardware inside is fine...

    1. Re:But why? by Morky · · Score: 1

      If they're ugly, I'd like to know what a troll would consider an attractive case.

    2. Re:But why? by fozzy(pro) · · Score: 1

      The case looks okay. I'm not a big fan of the mac look espically the most current, the silvery one with the big hole that a child, or adult, could easily stick a finger in and damage the speaker.

      The best feature i've found dealing with mac cases are that the MainBoard is on the door that opens which is hinged this helps a lot and gives easy acces to all components on the Board. This Mac-Clone is lacking that.

      This case like the Dell Dimension Cases uses what appearsd to be a palstic bar/clip to hold expansion cards in place and with the Dell's i've had a terrible experience with it functioning poorly. Micron's used to have a solid metal bar that worked well.

      Rails are good for some people who like them bad for those who do not. If rails were standard across the board i would be in favor of them and would encouirage drive manufacturers to put them on their products consumer may like just being able to slide a drive in when they wated to put in a new one.

      Overall the case looks nice, i figure i would scratch it up quickly, but has 2 don points and a maybe on the rails.

      I like the firewire on the front!

      It' all just my opinion. You are free to make your own even if you live in a coutry where the government wants you to be a robot like here in the US.

    3. Re:But why? by blakespot · · Score: 1
      I'm not a big fan of the mac look espically the most current, the silvery one with the big hole that a child, or adult, could easily stick a finger in and damage the speaker.
      blakespot
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    4. Re:But why? by BasharTeg · · Score: 3, Funny

      I agree with you! Great thoughts, thank you for sharing them with us!

  3. niiice by CakerX · · Score: 1

    Doesn't look too "mac" but I guess thats a good thing. Its a REALLLY nice case, I think I should get one, the cooling on mine sucks, I cannot use the floppy or the cdrom unless I take them out of the case :(

  4. Re:How? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Quit your damn whining.

    Why do people consistently whine about this topic? If you don't like it, just shut up. No one cares about your opinion, especially here.

  5. Now honest... by vs-Tsoonamy · · Score: 1

    ... this does'nt look as half as good as the original powerMac case does!
    Too massive and not enough transparency.a

    I'm not a mac-user, but I don't like it.

    Besides, not the right hardware in it! ;-)

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    1. Re:Now honest... by foo12 · · Score: 1

      Compare and contrast: http://www.apple.com/pr/photos/powermac/pmg4_jan02 .html

    2. Re:Now honest... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      seriously, i never saw the point in purchasing a great looking case if it's going to house a noisy computer. my current computer is so loud i ended up just putting it in the closet.

      screw it, my next computer is just gonna be a powerbook.

  6. From the movie "crazy people" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Take Metamucil, or get cancer and die!"

  7. Case color by tibbetts · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now, if only this came in black ...

    Now, if only this came in beige...

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  8. nice but by Ubi_UK · · Score: 2

    Yep looks great without anything in it
    however itt will look pretty crap with my beige floppy/zip/dvd/cdrw in it (although the top slot has a flip top by the looks of it)

    Will thety sell extra covers for these things?

    1. Re:nice but by FyRE666 · · Score: 2

      You can buy coloured drives you know, or you always have the option of modding a new drive yourself...

  9. Comments by kawaichan · · Score: 5, Informative
    OK, If you really want a MacCase lookalike, you might be better off getting an empty G3/G4 case on Ebay then mod the hell out of it

    G4 Case PC mod guide

    G4 Case Auction

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    1. Re:Comments by SN74S181 · · Score: 1

      I want an ATX form-factor board with a PPC chip in it. Preferrably one that is produced by several vendors. The hell with proprietary cases and boards.

    2. Re:Comments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The New Abit Max board should also fit in the newer G4 cases.

    3. Re:Comments by The+Wooden+Badger · · Score: 1

      You got it. That thing is nothing special. I don't like it. The only thing I like about the real McCoy is the way the motherboard comes down on the hinge doo-hickey. I like that in the original case, and I know I can get that elsewhere. If I wanted it the same exact way as with a Mac, I'd go the eBay and mod route.

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  10. how bout, instead of a case... by garcia · · Score: 1

    How about instead of having a Mac-Clone case for my PC I get MacOS X for i386. Now that's a fucking brilliant idea :)

  11. mac case clone details by Hadlock · · Score: 2, Insightful

    i'd wager 10 minutes before this gets slashdotted....basically, the case looks the same as a G4 mac case....from about 10 feet away and if you squint real hard. no handle on each side, just round bumps where there would be a handle. 3 5 1/2" bays, a 4th 5 1/2" bay with flip out cover for a CD drive. oh, and it doesn't unfold like a suitcase (like the mac cases do - one of the main reasons to want one).

    i can't say i'm altogether impressed with this one, but put some blue LEDs on it and you have a case-modder's dream :)

    as for making it black, 20 minutes with paint thinner should make those outside panels clear, like the G3/G4 cases, and you can paint it whatever you want. the front has a flip down bit, behind it is a firewire, usb, audio in/out ports, which could be useful.

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  12. Whaaa? by wazzzup · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is no Mac case. Apple wouldn't be caught dead releaseing something this pedestrian.

    It's a beige box except it's not beige and it's covered in lucite. It is much nicer than standard issue cases coming out of PC manufacturers warehouses though.

    PC case, yes. Mac case,no.

    1. Re:Whaaa? by Elbereth · · Score: 1, Troll

      I have a B&W G3 PowerMac. This is one of the older PowerMacs, but it runs OS X perfectly fine.

      The case sucks horribly, except for the fact that it opens easily. First of all, it's totally proprietary. Second, there's no expansion room at all. Want a DVD-RAM and a CD-RW? Sorry. Can't do it. That's pathetic. Third, it doesn't have any nice features like front-accessible USB/Firewire, big power supply (oh yeah, that's proprietary, too), slide-out motherboard tray, multiple fan mounts, etc.

      It's an aestheically pleasing case with horrible design. I much prefer my PC cases, even though they aren't spiffy colors or have handles.

      If you moderate me as flamebait, at least consider that some people on this Mac site agree with me and give instructions on how to move your Mac motherboard to a quality PC tower. The article is old and references an obsolete product, but the same thing has been done to newer PowerMac motherboards.

    2. Re:Whaaa? by ksheff · · Score: 1

      I agree. It's too ugly. The newer Macs are at least somewhat nice to look at.

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    3. Re:Whaaa? by yunfat · · Score: 1
      First of all, it's totally proprietary. Second, there's no expansion room at all. Want a DVD-RAM and a CD-RW? Sorry. Can't do it. That's pathetic. Third, it doesn't have any nice features like front-accessible USB/Firewire, big power supply (oh yeah, that's proprietary, too), slide-out motherboard tray, multiple fan mounts, etc.

      The computer you describe is 4 years old... perhaps you would like to share the name of the pc case from 4 years ago that had the features you mention? Or are you to busy installing firewire cards into your pc?

      Also, I'm curious why you mention "multiple fan mounts"... it seems to me that you have never owned a RISC processor and aren't aware that macs don't get hot.

      Owner of a B&W G3? I don't think so. Member of the Bill Gates pimple popping club? Most certainly.

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    4. Re:Whaaa? by zapfie · · Score: 4, Informative

      Both the blue G3 and all the G4 cases have drivebays like PC towers, PCI expansion slots, etc. etc. This is something Apple fixed a loooooooong time ago. Nice troll attempt, though.

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    5. Re:Whaaa? by zaffir · · Score: 1

      He still has a somewhat valid point - if only about the old G4 cases.

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    6. Re:Whaaa? by mattkinabrewmindspri · · Score: 1
      Although Macs do have several 3.5" drive bays, they currently only have one 5.25" drive bay. That means that you can only have one CD/DVD drive.

      As a Mac user, I don't think Apple's current cases have enough bays, and this "Mac case clone" doesn't look so great. I've always liked the Lian-Li PC-60, which I will be transplanting my G3 tower into soon.

    7. Re:Whaaa? by zapfie · · Score: 2

      Although I haven't looked inside, the G4 I work on has two 5.25" faceplates.. are you sure it's only one 5.25" bay? Also, you can have as many CD/DVD drives as you want (external Firewire), there's just a limit to the number of internal ones. I agree, though, I would like to see more bays.

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    8. Re:Whaaa? by dr00g911 · · Score: 1

      Looks more like a knockoff of recent HP/Compaq cases to me, and I'm not too terribly sure that it's nicer than many of the compUSA/Fry's variety.

      As a cheap knockoff, it looks - well - cheap to me.

      Much like eMachines eMac (although it was more obviously a Mac knockoff). eMachines basically traced the form factor and the plastics, and still ended up with an incredibly ugly (and klunky) machine.

      No finesse, no style, no polish.

      They just don't seem to get how well the machine works as a whole. Form & function, kids.

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    9. Re:Whaaa? by Hack'n'Slash · · Score: 1

      Yes, the other drive bay is meant for a zip drive ONLY. There is no way you can even attempt to put a CD-ROM drive in there. (trust me, I've looked into it, no amount of cutting would allow it to fit.) Thank goodness for firewire!

    10. Re:Whaaa? by Elbereth · · Score: 2

      What, it's impossible to own an Apple PowerMac and not worship Apple?

      I actually have TWO B&W G3 PowerMacs. You want the serial numbers?

  13. Re:How? by garcia · · Score: 1

    some people like to know when a cool looking modification comes out for their computer. Nerds especially.

    I am not a fan of it either but how does that make it not newsworthy for nerds?

  14. $150 for a case? by OneFix · · Score: 2

    Dunno about you, but I think your $150 could be better spent than on a Mac case look-a-like. Even retail stores have half-way decent cases for ~$30. Oh, I guess if you're the kind of person that'ld want to put a window in their harddrive or lights in their case, this might be right up your alley, but for the price difference, you could probably upgrade at least one of your major components (bigger harddrive, faster processor, better motherboard, faster graphics card, more memory, bigger monitor, etc).

    Wand then again, none of your hardware (drives, fans, monitor, etc) is going to match the case. Look at that case and imagine a bunch of white/beige components in there (makes it look ugly, doesn't it)...

    1. Re:$150 for a case? by adamwright · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Some cases really are worth that (and more). I paid £120 (around $180) for my new Lian Li, and don't regret a single penny of it. 4 Builtin fans (variable speed), entirely thumb screw based, pull out motherboard tray, and the chasis is 100% aluminium.

      $150 spent on a graphics card might get you top FPS for a few months. $150 on a decent case will last you the rest of your ATX sized upgrades, and save you a LOT of pain if you go inside your machine a fair bit.

    2. Re:$150 for a case? by Elbereth · · Score: 4, Informative

      I seriously doubt that your $30 case can match my $100 case. For starters, my case has an Antec True 480W power supply. It also has four case fans. Your $30 case probably has room for one, maybe two case fans. You might not think this is such a big deal, but I've got a dual Pentium Pro 200 that's still running, not to mention a P233 MMX. My computers don't die, no matter how hot the summers get.

      Oh yeah, and that 480W power supply drives a dual processor Tyan Tiger MPX motherboard. You don't necessarily need more than 350W for that board, but you can't add more juice to your power supply when it turns out you miscalculated your power requirements.

      Your $30 case probably wouldn't hold half the motherboards I've got (with one exception, they're all dual processor). These motherboards are necessarily large, occasionally coming in sizes that won't even fit in a quality mid-tower case! I know what you're going to say: nobody uses dual processor motherboards. I'd mostly agree with that, but consider power users who want integrated IDE RAID (blech), Firewire, and 8 zillion USB ports. All of that takes up space on a motherboard. Some of the nicer motherboards require you to have a big case. Some of them even take up as much space as my dual processor boards! Let's not even talk about dual Xeon boards...

      Last but not least... you get what you pay for. I know, nobody wants to believe that, but it's mostly true. If you put down $60 for a motherboard, $20 for your RAM, and $30 for your case, I pity the stability of your computer. Every one of those components are going to be flakey, unless you're lucky (sometimes you do luck out and get good quality items). Chances are, though, that stuff is cheap for a reason... it failed QA testing, someone in China is dumping sub-par equipment in the West, or it's refurbished/returned.

      Don't get me wrong, I use $2 mice and $39 motherboards sometimes. But I know what I'm getting myself into, and I never, ever recommend anything but top quality stuff (Asus, Antec, Toshiba, etc) to my friends. Also, I never build systems for my friends or clients with cheap-ass components.

      Holy shit, this post is long. I better get moderated up for all this typing.

    3. Re:$150 for a case? by OneFix · · Score: 2

      $150 spent on a graphics card might get you top FPS for a few months.

      True, but $150 spent on a better motherboard will go alot further than a few months.

      $150 on a decent case will last you the rest of your ATX sized upgrades, and save you a LOT of pain if you go inside your machine a fair bit.

      Agreed, but that is an argument for a highly functional case, not this one which seems less functional than even a standard case since you have to be careful not to crack the case...

      The thing is made out of plastic, not aluminium. It is not likely to hold up to constant upgrades as well as say an all aluminium case.

    4. Re:$150 for a case? by binarybum · · Score: 1

      nope, more like modded down for being an uber-troll.

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    5. Re:$150 for a case? by Elbereth · · Score: 1

      I only troll on Mondays and Thursdays.

    6. Re:$150 for a case? by OneFix · · Score: 2

      For starters, my case has an Antec True 480W power supply.

      Ok, my $30 case has a 450W power supply...you've got 30W on mine there...

      Your $30 case probably has room for one, maybe two case fans.

      2 fans (not including the power supply)...

      My computers don't die, no matter how hot the summers get.

      I didn't say anything about skimping on cooling...this case only has room for 2 fans that I see...and I haven't seen a system that needs more than 2 good case fans.

      Your $30 case probably wouldn't hold half the motherboards I've got

      It's a Mid-Tower case. And so is the "MacPC" case.

      you get what you pay for.

      And in this case you get "looks" and that's all...you either get more features or better quality at that price.

      If you put down $60 for a motherboard, $20 for your RAM...

      Agreed.

      $30 for your case, I pity the stability of your computer.

      Disagree.

      My $30 case is similar to This One...which is all the quality you should expect from this system. If you need a better case, you should buy one, but this one offers nothing over my $30 case.

    7. Re:$150 for a case? by ocbwilg · · Score: 2

      Last but not least... you get what you pay for. I know, nobody wants to believe that, but it's mostly true. If you put down $60 for a motherboard, $20 for your RAM, and $30 for your case, I pity the stability of your computer. Every one of those components are going to be flakey, unless you're lucky (sometimes you do luck out and get good quality items).

      If you carefully research the components that you are interested in then you can often times get excellent parts for considerably less than top dollar. It's all a matter of evaluating needs versus cost. For example, I paid less than $100 7 months ago for my DDR Athlon mainboard and got an Epox 8KHA+. It's an excellent board, is very fast and rock-solid stable. No compatibility issues and it has plenty of slots for expansion. At the same time I paid $40 for my Enlight 7237 mid-tower case with a 300W PSU. It's easy to get into, installation was simple and it looks and works fine. Around the same time I picked up a TDK VeloCD 24x10x40 CDRW for $70. It works great, burns everything I need to burn and hasn't made a single coaster. There's a lot more at work here than simple dumb luck. While I'm at it, I'd also like to point out the obvious: just because it costs more money doesn't mean that it's any better.

      Don't get me wrong, I use $2 mice and $39 motherboards sometimes. But I know what I'm getting myself into,

      And the implication you make here is that nobody else does. That's a bit of a ridiculous notion, especially when you consider the talents of the average Slashdot reader.

      Holy shit, this post is long. I better get moderated up for all this typing.

      It's usually quality, not quantity that matters.

      Now, on to the matter of this "Mac-alike" case. It looks nice. It seems to be fairly well designed, though still not as well done as a true PowerMac case. The smoked glass/charcoal color doesn't really do much for me personally, but that's just a matter of personal taste (like the rest of my comments about it). When it comes down to it though, it basically looks like any other mid-tower case. I've got a room full of PCs that look basically the same as this one. What is really far more interesting to me are cases like the Shuttle SS40. I think that the small form factor is probably the way to go for the average user nowdays, and the Shuttle systems look damn good. And they're quiet. And if you're really obsessed with wanting a "Mac-alike", just pretend it's a G4 Cube.

    8. Re:$150 for a case? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Your $30 case probably wouldn't hold half the motherboards I've got

      This is like saying "your pathetic Ford Taurus can't carry anything close to the load my 18-Wheeler can!" Some people want a small case, but you seem to have a thing about BIG cases, probably compensating for your little penis.

    9. Re:$150 for a case? by arkane1234 · · Score: 1

      Hey wow, thats pretty cool, I have about the same case! Mine has more fans in it though, it has one on the side panel, one in the back, and 4 in the front (not including the power supply) and has a 350 watt powersupply. (all for 60 bucks, least I could find in my area)

      Good buy ya got there, I commend you. Those cases are solid, and very nicely designed for the price!

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    10. Re:$150 for a case? by OneFix · · Score: 1

      Well, ok...mine has more fans too...but I'm talking about built-in case fans...

      I can't really count those fans that clip on the side or hardddrive fans or even the ones that fit in a PCI slot.

    11. Re:$150 for a case? by yakfacts · · Score: 2

      Cheap cases are like cheap motherboards. You get what you pay for. I love it when I pick up a cheap case and it bends the board.

      A case under $80 is not worth looking at. I usually (I work in IT) spend around $100-$120, most expensive was $800 but that was a server case.

    12. Re:$150 for a case? by OneFix · · Score: 2

      I love it when I pick up a cheap case and it bends the board.

      I've bought tons of "cheap cases" (probably not over 100, but at least 75)...and I've never found one that actually BENDS the motherboard...I guess if it had a hole slightly off center it could bend the board, but I've never seen it...especially if you're using the proper connectors...

      I usually (I work in IT) spend around $100-$120

      I do too, and I've never spent that much for a mid-tower, of course I've done 20 and 30 systems at a time, where it was much cheaper to build a couple of extras rather than get more expensive parts. And cheap does not always mean bad. The power supply in my $30 case is perfectly fine....especially when you buy a case with signifigantly more power than you need. I have a $50 case powering a Linux box and it's been on (constantly...only turned off to move) for 5 years. And as for "defectives cases", if you are buying from any reputable firm, they should replace those cases at no cost...or at least that's what the BBB says :)

  15. Smart Mac Users by RebelTycoon · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    Well now the PC has a case even the "smarter" Mac users can purchase... Afterall, how many of us know someone who bought a Mac because it looked perritty (pretty)...

    Let's face it... Some of Apples successes is because their cases appeal to the artistic side of the brain... Helping to overpower the logical side that would have definitely said by PC...

    Without the Mac user segment out there, we wouldn't have all those cool multi-color, fancy, visually charged Car Steros, Stereo components, and Windows XP...

  16. No flip side by jonnythan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Looks nice, but doesn't have the functionality and *internal* configuration of a Mac. The current towers (starting with the Blue G3) are the best damn cases i've ever seen. Pull one small lever and the whole thing opens up, laying the motherboard flat right in front of you with nothing in the way. It's even got a very large, quiet case fan built into the side, opposite the PCI slots.

    Someone release a case like THAT for x86!!

    1. Re:No flip side by purplemonkeydan · · Score: 1, Troll

      The Dell Dimension 8200 is very similar to that. Push the release button, and you can open up the case just like the Apple cases.

    2. Re:No flip side by goober · · Score: 2
      The Dell Dimension 8200 is very similar to that. Push the release button, and you can open up the case just like the Apple cases.

      The key difference here though is that the G4 case you don't have to tip over to open up the case. You can open it while it is running without distrubing any of the cables or losing drive access. Beat that!

    3. Re:No flip side by 4444444 · · Score: 2

      Push the release button, and you can open up the case just like the Apple cases.
      I wouyldn't say just like the Apple cases. I have both a G4 tower and a 8200 It took awhile to figureout the 8200 and to tell the truth it doesn't open very easy. and turning on it's face to open it isn't anywhere near how a Mac case works

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    4. Re:No flip side by Matey-O · · Score: 2

      I got a case that would do just exactly that.

      Problem was, it wouldn't work more than 30 seconds with my 1 Ghz athlon...see, when you flipped the case closed, the processor was in a nice little nook in front of the Power Supply and behind the CDRW and DVD drives. It made for a nice little heatmaker.

      So I overcompensated, got a huge tower box and never had a problem --past getting a floppy ribbon cable long enough.

      Does it look like a Mac's case? Well from sitting at my computer, it might as well. It's behind the desk, hidden in the corner. I don't look at it much.

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    5. Re:No flip side by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, ummm, it's an Athlon. What did you expect? Did you install all seventeen cooling fans? I hope so, or the fire warden will be walking through the ashes that were your place eventually, trying to identify your teeth.

    6. Re:No flip side by TomHandy · · Score: 1

      I own a Dell Dimension 8100 (not the exact same, but fundamentally), and have used Power Mac G3's and G4's at work, and I would not say they are the same. However, opening the case and working on the Dell is definitely better than other PC's I've owned. Just to clarify though, with the Power Mac, you just slide open the door with the Power Mac upright and normal...just add whatever memory or whatever else you want and then close the door and its down. With the Dell I have to unplug all of the cables and connectors, turn it over on its side, push on the release button, carefully lift the door off and away from the main case, set the half of the case aside, do whatever work internally I need to do (which can be a bit more difficult given how everything is laid out, specially with the various cables getting in the way), then carefully try and get the door lined up to the slots and carefully fit it back into place, snap everything together, then put it back upright, re-plug all of the cables and connectors and power back on. Compared to other PC's I've had, which often were much more of a pain to get the case off and back on again, it's an improvement, but it's still not quite at where the Power Mac case design is. Aside from everything else, even just the layout of things internally is incredibly well thought out....nothing gets in my way, etc. since I can work on the motherboard independent of the internal cables getting in my.

    7. Re:No flip side by lucifuge31337 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      The 8200's were the WORST Apple case design I've seen. It's their biggest failure.

      Just adding memory is a chore, and changing boards is a nightmare.

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    8. Re:No flip side by Rantastic · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Yeah, mac cases are inter-racial-lesbian-road-trip good!

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    9. Re:No flip side by Rosonowski · · Score: 2

      Erm... what did you expect? It's a p4..

      Seriously, Athlons may run hot, but most of the time, the stock cooling fan and an exhaust fan on the case is all you need, unless you overclock.

      And mabye it's overkill on the huge HSF's for th p4's, because I have seen Dells with passive cooling on the p4, but be honest here... does the athlon really get hotter then any other comparably performing processor?

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    10. Re:No flip side by Rantastic · · Score: 1

      Sheesh, haven't any of you moderators seen a recent Yoplay (sp) commercials? Not Flamebait, but in fact a joke.

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    11. Re:No flip side by Nameles · · Score: 1

      Antec cases 0wn the Dell cases. I have one of the SOHO file server style cases. All I need to do is pull a handle/latch and the door will slide off. Everything is inside and easily gotten to.

    12. Re:No flip side by brad3378 · · Score: 2

      Don't forget to mention the spot for the padlock on the back of the case. It is very slick. Just a standard padlock and you can lock the case closed ***and*** lock the entire case down to the desk. This would be a great feature for a computer lab.

      If anyone here ever goes to a larger computer store in the near future, I highly reccommend "window shopping" down the Mac Isle. Those 22-inch flat panels are amazing!

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    13. Re:No flip side by Saint+Fnordius · · Score: 2

      This thing looks like it was made to be a LAN party machine instead of a Mac lookalike. The handle, the flip cover for the connectors, all suggest that this box was meant for lugging to the next tourney. The question is why they didn't go to the logical conclusion and use more rubber or hard plastic to protect against scrapes and bumps. I would have gone for the yellow-and-black "sports electronics" style.

      Seriously, though, the builders ought to tone down their "looks like a Mac" spiel, or else they'll start drawing heat from Apple's rabid lawyer corps. I think the design is different enough, but there's no need to tempt fate.

    14. Re:No flip side by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ROLF! Troll ... is Steve astroturfing again?

  17. "Clone" is an unfair description. by fmaxwell · · Score: 2

    I am not a Mac fan by any stretch of the imagination, but to compare that ugly POS case with a Mac case is completely unfair. From an aesthetic standpoint, the Mac case is far more appealing and was clearly conceived by talented designers. Calling that a clone of the Mac case is like calling a Pontiac Firebird a clone of a Ferrari.

    1. Re:"Clone" is an unfair description. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


      Calling that a clone of the Mac case is like calling a Pontiac Firebird a clone of a Ferrari.

      Hehehehe... Nice!! I couldn't have put it any better.

    2. Re:"Clone" is an unfair description. by ocbwilg · · Score: 1

      Calling that a clone of the Mac case is like calling a Pontiac Firebird a clone of a Ferrari.

      Dont' be ridiculous. Nobody would call a Pontiac Firebird a clone of a Ferrari. On the other hand, some people might try that with a Pontiac Fiero.

  18. Case condom? by JustAnOtherCodeSerf · · Score: 3, Funny

    Color me silly, but once again a PC maker is attempting to make a sorta cool looking pc by adding some plastic to the run of the mill pc case.

    My favorites are the ones where they just replace the front pannel... kinda like building facades... stock brick building with greek columns glued to its face. Maybe I should just glue a picture of the case I really want to the side of my pc.

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  19. NOT a Mac case clone; lacks best Mac case feature by dpbsmith · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A colleague of mine who doesn't like Apples was in the lab when the first Mac with the current case design (the Blue-and-White) came in. It's on and working when he comes over to see it.

    This is a bare-metal guy. All his machines in the lab have had their covers removed because he's in them so often he can't be bothered to take the time to take covers off and put them back on. (FCC? What FCC?)

    He starts ranting and raving about how stupid Apple stuff is, how jerky the case looks, etc. "All this meaningless decoration." Pointing to the ring on the right side, he says, "Look at that stupid thing, for instance. What's that supposed to be?" He starts to fiddle with it--and the case swings open, the interior is completely exposed, the motherboard is mounted ON THE PIVOTING SIDE PANEL so it is totally accessible from above AND FROM THREE SIDES (nothing to obstruct your knuckles!)

    And the Mac goes on working without missing a beat.

    "Wow!" he says. "That's the best case design I've ever seen!" Then he adds, "I still hate Apple, though."

    This case clone reveals the shallow understanding of most non-Mac users who think the Mac is all about appearance at the expense of functionality.

    Who cares about a case that just looks vaguely like a Mac (I don't even think they've captured the appearance very well--it somehow looks awkward and unaesthetic)--but that leaves out the Mac case's best functional feature?

  20. Dream on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    we live in hope, but it is just not going to happen.

    but i think XDarwin is the best we can hope for

    1. Re:Dream on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      we live in hope, but it is just not going to happen.

      It's really sad since PowerPC sucks so bad. I'd buy MacOS X in an instant if I could run it on my AMD Athlon. I'm not going to pay double the price of PC hardware to get subpar performance on general computing apps from Mac hardware. And yes, I DO use a MAc in the lab at work and it is SLLOOOOWWWW compared to my Linux box.

    2. Re:Dream on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, but the Mac box probably looks a lot cooler and gets you more chicks. That's all that matters about computers, right?

    3. Re:Dream on by arkane1234 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, if your not a true geek :)

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  21. Of all the differences beteween Mac and PC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I must say that the case is the one I'm least interested. OS X? Great. The UI? Wow. The hardware? Cool. But the case? Eh, it's just a box.

    Now, when I can OS X on PC hardware, then we'll talk.

    1. Re:Of all the differences beteween Mac and PC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      s/PC hardware/x86/g

      because even Macs are PCs! :)

  22. I prefer something more practical by MtViewGuy · · Score: 2

    In my opinion, a system case does not need to be the cutting edge of external design.

    What I really want from a system case is the following:

    1. A decent 300W power supply at minimum that works with all the current ATX motherboards.

    2. Easy installation of the motherboard itself.

    3. Designed so system cooling works well with just one case fan and the power supply fan.

    4. Easy to remove system covers.

    Fortunately, you can get cases meeting my criteria for under US$70 pretty easily.

  23. cheap suit by f2professa · · Score: 1

    Buy a man a cheap suit and cheap shoes and what have you got? A man in a cheap suit and cheap shoes.

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    1. Re:cheap suit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It sure is ugly !

    2. Re:cheap suit by presearch · · Score: 1
      Buy a man a cheap suit and cheap shoes and what have you got?

      Add a cheap haircut and you've got Bill Gates.

  24. There Is No Spoon by Effugas · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Apple does something slightly out of the ordinary -- shave off a few edges, put a spit shine on the thing, throw in a screen -- and they're the heights of hardware innovation.

    Yes, cloning Luxo Jr. makes up for it all, but it's the exception that proves the rule. For the most part, a tower is a tower is a tower.

    They don't have to be.

    Where are cases that look like they'd fit directly in with an entertainment system, replete with integrated DVD-ROMs and elegantly sliding front panels for expansion?

    Where are low depth mods of rackmount cases, meant for vertical deployment next to your monitor?

    Why is everything so angular? Volvos weren't this boxy. Why is every sharp angle in the computer world the kind of thing you could just *see* a prisoner filing down in about five minutes into a lethal weapon? I mean, I know programmers have a thing for powers of two (bug me, we'll chant 2^n, it's a real party lemme tell ya), and 90 is 360/2/2, but damn. Pass calculus already.

    Hell, just to be ornery -- where's a natural keyboard clone you can stick a PC inside? In case you haven't noticed, your keyboard is several times larger than the avarage laptop.

    This isn't random complaining. We've got cookie cutter cases with trivial modifications for a reason: Systems that *do* new things are apparently selling better than systems that *look* like they do -- or at least, the economies of scale of making nigh-identical cases are so incredibly massive that every deviation from the standard design introduces order of magnitude slashes of profit margins.

    You might say this has as much to do with the limitations of the ATX spec, which specifically for cost purposes enforces fixed locations for all motherboard connectors. I don't know. I saw one random hobbyist with an ATX machine made out of a hollow cylinder of transparent plexiglass, illuminated with LEDs and with a detailed LCD providing system stats. Damn thing was a work of art. Sony, the one company most known for its attention to industrial design, recently came out with the closest "competitor": A _dark_ grey box with a spinach green LCD.

    And that's the thing, folks. That hobbyist probably spent dozens of hours hand crafting that beauty. The processes required to make such a unique case are extraordinarily varied and unique, and if every new generation of computers needed completely new case designs, costs would shoot through the roof. Your case would become the most expensive part of your machine.

    And so...we don't have unique cases. And I think I'm OK with that. But everyone, please. Unless you're talking about that brilliant homage to Pixar, don't think there's any originality at all among corporate case design.

    There's just not. Your dollars have spoken -- maybe even wisely.

    Yours Truly,

    Dan Kaminsky
    DoxPara Research
    http://www.doxpara.com

    1. Re:There Is No Spoon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Why is everything so angular? Volvos weren't this boxy."

      For some reason, I get a feeling you're a clueless troll. Have you even LOOKED at iMac lately? Do you REALLY think that's "boxy"?
      http://www.apple.com/imac

      "Where are cases that look like they'd fit directly in with an entertainment system, replete with integrated DVD-ROMs and elegantly sliding front panels for expansion?"

      Well, maybe you should take a look at http://www.multimedia-nc.com

    2. Re:There Is No Spoon by Effugas · · Score: 2

      Clueless Troll? Big words, AC ;-)

      The old iMac is a BOX. It's a BOX with a MONITOR.

      The new iMac. That's something else. It is gorgeous. Incredible. Beautiful. It's also Luxo Jr., the mascot of Pixar, which Steve Jobs *also* runs.

      It's the exception that proves the rule: The new iMac is unique design, in a way that nothing else on the market is. Apple can pull stunts like that because, well, they're Apple. One of these days I want a collectible card game based on Silicon Valley figures; you'd play as Apple or Microsoft or the Non-Aligned Unix Worlds or something.

      Reality Distortion Field would be damn fun to see illustrated.

      But I digress. The multimedia box you pointed me at is a tub; another responder mentioned a case that -- no offense -- was outdated twenty years ago and actually *does* have lethal edges. I'm sure someone, somewhere has made a case that looks like real stereo equipment. Interesting how we're struggling to just achieve the status quo of blase from another domain...

      --Dan

    3. Re:There Is No Spoon by SlamMan · · Score: 2

      The who reason behind the square boxes is the motherboards. Motherboards are big rectangles, and as such cases are made to go around them. Do what you want, but nobody's going to cut apart their mother baord to get it to fit into a smaller shape, and so everything case design is still going to have to have a big flat side to it for the board. Here's where Apple's got its nice touch, since it designs the boards AND the cases, it can make em in funk shapes to fit whatever design they want. If a pc maked did it, they get bashed to hell for have a proprietary design, and nobody would buy thier stuff. Maybe when mother boards start being flexable, something will change, but for now, you get a new iMac, or you get a box.

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    4. Re:There Is No Spoon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      The new iMac is unique design, in a way that nothing else on the market is.

      This is only true because IBM stopped making their all-in-one NetVista series. IBM did equally distinctive design years before Apple. But of course, the only reason Apple gets the praise of people such as yourself for being "visionary" is because it is fashionable to be a mac user. Just as it is fashionable to wear $200 nike running shoes while walking your dog.

      Talk about your reality distortion field!

      Luckily for the rest of us who actually want to get work done, $50 el-cheapo beige PC cases are still available.

    5. Re:There Is No Spoon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Maybe it's time for designer motherboards. Circlurar, star-shaped, etc...

      Or for the real he-mna, motherboard mods! Buy a square and turn it into something cool.

    6. Re:There Is No Spoon by NeuroManson · · Score: 2

      The difficulty is twofold in regards to case design... One, coming up with a design that is truly innovative and original, second is coming up with a design that appeals to the masses at large...

      Case in point, the monstrosities that are unveiled by the major manufacturers, who are concentrating more on the bottom line, selling new machines, as opposed to actual innovation...

      There are a few exceptions, such as Lian-Li and others, but the primary difficulty is as old as the PC itself: The PC, from etching bath through soldering, testing, wiring and assembly, is an engineering task first, and a creative job second (or third, or fourth, etc)... It's overwhelmingly the "all" of using a PC... And unfortunately, there's little to no way for as vast an industry to make any real profitability from eclectic quirks and traits...

      Apple, in the meanwhile, has developed as a result of that very eclecticness, by essentially combining both the engineering AND artistic aspects towards the same goal...

      The (x86) PC market won't advance into that range until they learn to "think out of the box" as it were...

      And no, I have several unused aging Macs on a shelf in a closet, and a 1.5 Ghz PC on my desk, either are adequate as tools IMO, both have benefits and drawbacks... A terribly unpopular view in regards to technology, but hey, a wine drinker only drinks what brand is handy, a wine *taster* drinks all brands of wine one sip at a time...

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    7. Re:There Is No Spoon by Effugas · · Score: 2

      AC--

      Hadn't seen the NetVista before.

      Not particularly impressed, to be blunt. It's the mastery of sharp edges. Yay.

      Don't worry, I was also not particularly impressed by the original iMac or the toilet bowl iBook.

      OK, I admit some appreciation of the titanium iBook. But I agree with you wholeheartedly about Apple getting more credit than they're worth -- they do things slightly differently and get hoisted up as the bearer of all things new.

      And I think you agree with me too -- the point about the $50 beige cases being exactly what I was originally posting about.

      --Dan

  25. Smart design? by Hektor_Troy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Uhm, we're in the 21st century, and our "computers" are STILL huge metal boxes. Everything in the computerindustry shrinks, but aparently the case is the exception to prove the rule, as they keep making bigger and bigger cases.

    Place the latest and greatest Full-Tower-Ultra-Plus-Mega-Giga-ATX case next to say, a Flex-ATX or Micro-ATX case, like the one Tom's Hardware has their hands on here, and tell me which one embodies progress.

    Not to mention how nice it would be not to have to lug around a 30+ pound case (not to mention the heavy-ass 21" trinitron monitor) just to go to a LAN party.

    *sigh* Big Iron isn't a description of mainframes - it's a description of the standard cases you and I use and the cause of our hernia.

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    1. Re:Smart design? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      did you even read the article to know that its not an atx case and just about everything is onboard?

      atx cases are larger then that for a reason. people LOVE to upgrade.

      and you ask the average pc user if he wouldnt mind paying an extra $100 for a case that makes the motherboard more accessable and you know what you will find out? only about 10% would.

    2. Re:Smart design? by Psiren · · Score: 2

      How many PC owners regularly lug their machines around? Very few I would expect. I certainly don't, thats what I have a laptop for. And I'd much rather have a spacious case than a tiny one. If you're messing about inside with cables etc, there's nothing worse than having no room to work with.

    3. Re:Smart design? by cjpez · · Score: 2

      And you tell me how that little tiny thing is going to hold three hard drives, a CD-R, regular CD-ROM, Zip drive, floppy (yes, I still use a floppy), and my video card / sound card upgrades I periodically buy. There's a reason some of us like big cases.

    4. Re:Smart design? by ocbwilg · · Score: 1

      And you tell me how that little tiny thing is going to hold three hard drives,.

      Ditch the three hard drives for one large hard drive. Partition as necessary.

      a CD-R, regular CD-ROM,

      If you're got a CDRW, you don't really need a "regular CD-ROM drive." In fact, if you buy a CDRW/DVD drive, you've got all of your bases covered.

      Zip drive,

      Put an IDE internal ZIP drive in the floppy bay, or use an external parallel port/USB ZIP drive.

      floppy (yes, I still use a floppy),

      Put it in the 3.5" floppy drive bay. Duh!

      and my video card / sound card upgrades I periodically buy.

      There's already a PCI slot for your sound card upgrades, and the next model is supposed to have an AGP slot so that you can upgrade your video card. I'm not trying to be a troll here, but you did ask how to put it all together. I'm just answering.

    5. Re:Smart design? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ditch the three hard drives?
      Use an external USB zip drive?

      That doesn't really solve his problem does it?

    6. Re:Smart design? by cjpez · · Score: 2
      Ditch the three hard drives for one large hard drive. Partition as necessary.
      But why just throw away 100 perfectly good gigs of storage? Besides, I like it great the way it is now. My /home partition's on it's own drive, immune to crashes from the others, one holds my (long-dormant) Win95 installation plus swap and some space for the root partition. Someone else brought up the issue w/ speed in this thread, too . . .
      If you're got a CDRW, you don't really need a "regular CD-ROM drive." In fact, if you buy a CDRW/DVD drive, you've got all of your bases covered.
      Well, I refuse to buy a DVD drive for DeCSS-related reasons, so we won't go there, but I'm not going to waste money replacing hardware, like I said above. I've got a perfectly good double-speed burner I got three years ago which, like I said, still functions perfectly, and I've got a 32x regular CDRom that I've had for ages, too. Also, it's nice to be able to copy disc to disc without having to copy to the hard drive first.
      Put an IDE internal ZIP drive in the floppy bay, or use an external parallel port/USB ZIP drive ... Put it in the 3.5" floppy drive bay. Duh!
      Well, it *is* an internal IDE ZIP drive that I've got, and obviously it can't share the 3.5" bay w/ the floppy drive itself. And again, I'm not going to waste money (and resources) buying USB versions of hardware I already have that still works perfectly. Oh, and parallel port solutions are just plain awful. That CD Burner of mine actually used to be a parallel port drive until I ripped it apart to find it was just IDE inside. I've been much happier ever since (although at the time it was very convenient).
      There's already a PCI slot for your sound card upgrades, and the next model is supposed to have an AGP slot so that you can upgrade your video card.
      Sure, but then I've got the second IDE controller I need for all those devices, also if I feel like getting a new NIC or Modem or TV tuner card, or this or that or the other thing. Plus, what if I get sick of dealing with IDE and decide to get a SCSI card? I like having ROOM to expand.
      I'm not trying to be a troll here, but you did ask how to put it all together. I'm just answering.
      No need to justify responses, it was obviously non-troll. Thanks for the responses, although I think you're wrong. :P
  26. You're right. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The homosexual factor is waaaaaay below standard Mac rating.
    Cellphone-using yuppie fags demand only the best!

    1. Re:You're right. by zapfie · · Score: 1

      If you had bothered to read the news article for that day, you would know that they are poking fun at the new Mac commercials, not Mac users themselves.

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    2. Re:You're right. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I did, and I realize you must be so dense that you didn't understand that they were poking fun at mac users AND the new commercials.
      While that is the image the new commercials are trying to portray, it is exactly the kind of image Mac users themselves portray.
      Truth in advertising, I guess.

    3. Re:You're right. by zapfie · · Score: 1

      I guess that explains the first two lines, which say:

      I'm not sure what this shit is meant to accomplish, Apple, aside from pissing me off.

      The Mac users I know don't like the Switch campaign any more than I do.


      Nice try, though.

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  27. Looks? Not really. Functionality? Certainly not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It doesn't seem to have the functionality of Apple's form factor. An Apple enclosure (be it Blue & White, Graphite of Quicksilver) has a door that simply swings open after you pull the latch, even while the system is running, making internal parts servicable in seconds. This thing is just shallow cosmetics, and not very convincing at that if you ask me.

  28. Um... by SpotBug · · Score: 1

    As a Mac user for many years, all I can say is, " YUCK!"

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  29. besides eBay.... by megacia · · Score: 1

    are there any other places to buy G4 PowerMac cases? i've looked forever with little success.

    1. Re:besides eBay.... by Toraz+Chryx · · Score: 2

      I do believe Apple Spares centres stock them?

  30. Cool case links by crea5e · · Score: 1

    Some links to check out.

    http://www.colorcases.com ( I've dealt with them and recommend them)
    http://www.pccase.com
    http://www.crazypc.com

    1. Re:Cool case links by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 2
      Coolcase.com! Thay have a model here called Radon!!!

      I'm looking for the rest of this series:
      Asbestos
      P.C.B
      Dioxin

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  31. Reach for a bucket by boris_the_hacker · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A lot of the others posts hightlight one of the very important points about apple cases - the ability to open them up and have everything there easy to access. Brilliant. PC cases have cut me up and stabbed me so many times that this was ground breaking. Like most simple ideas are. But, alsa, that is not my point.

    Forgive me, but this case is disgusting. I would be embarrased to show anyone this case, it looks cheap tacky and the sort of thing a wannabe design student from school designed. To coin a phrase, "close but no cigar". Yes the apple case has curves, yes it's smooth plastic, yes it has handles and yes if you copied it out right you would have a law suit on your hands. But if you can't come up with something usefull and good looking dont even goto production.

    Let me ask a few questions, can you imagine a group of designers using this case? No neither can I. Can you imagine your parents using this case? Nope, not them. Can you imagine walking into work with your machines looking like this? Nope neither can I. Schools? Nope, Universitys? Nada. yet these are all places where Apples feature and look correct. Please, please, please can someone not come up with a case that is nice to look at, unobtrusive and functional. Surely I am not alone in wanting something like this.

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  32. Not your case by Fred+Ferrigno · · Score: 1

    I don't think his point was "all anyone needs is a $30 case" but "if all you need is a $30 case, don't spend $150 on a fancy looking case". Of course there are good reasons to buy an high-end case, but most cases designed for looks aren't much better than the El Cheapo case you can get from your local computer store.

    1. Re:Not your case by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What is wrong with buying a $150 case because it looks better than a $30 dollar case? Would you also argue that anyone spending $1000 on a leather couch is an idiot because you can buy cinderblocks and foam rubber mats for much less?

    2. Re:Not your case by OneFix · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Would you also argue that anyone spending $1000 on a leather couch is an idiot because you can buy cinderblocks and foam rubber mats for much less?

      No, but I'ld argue that spending $1000 on cinderblocks and foam rubber mats covered with leather makes that person an idiot...

  33. This is news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mac-like cases have been around for ages. Nobody wants them. Why would someone buy a Porsche 911 and then make it look like a Ford Ka?

  34. no useful mobo swing out? by H3XA · · Score: 1

    I don't particularily care HOW nice a cse looks..... unless it is functional as well then it is just pretty eye candy coating of a poor case design. Even the Chinese PC case market with all their plastic mouldings and bulges here and there have made "kind of decent" cases that allow the mobo to swing out like the G3/G4 power macs. I have Celeron2 based minitower cased in plastic mouldings beside me that I use as a home server - upgrading or swapping hard drives is just a "push button, flip out side, fark around inside for a bit, slam side shut". Now that is functional.... - HeXa

  35. Been done. by Valen+Faerlwynd · · Score: 0

    To be succint and sum up what everyone has said, will say, and was thinking of saying, its been done already. And frankly, they weren't that good.

    Love and Peace,
    Valen

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  36. Case mods, car mods by eyepeepackets · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A friend of mine in the mid-seventies put an aluminum V8 into a little Toyota (or maybe it was a Datsun, I forget.). Took quite awhile and a lot of mods on the poor little Toyota. He then drove the thing to Kansas.

    The point? Well, I think he did it so he could say he did it. That and the little Toyota could smoke anything else on the street. Computer hardware mods are kinda like that too. Fun to do and the result is you have something unique (or at least different from the mainstream.)

    I once hacked an Atari ST into a beige tower PC case. Wasn't much point in the exercise other than my ST looked a whole lot different than other STs and I learned alot about hacking hardware. Case modding is overall pretty damn cool, IMO.

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  37. Disappointed, no oven door by Apogee · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Hmm, well, looking at it my first impression was "really nice", but then, looking more closely, some things are off ...

    1) The "handles" are not handles, but rather ugly protrusions. What a pity!

    2) as some ppl before me mentioned, as soon as you put your standard-beige drives in the drive trays, it will look a lot crappier than now. Do they plan to provide some way to cover the beige ugliness?

    3) and most important: You can't swing open the side door. That feature alone (and only that one, maybe) would convince me to go for such a case, despite the price tag. Because that is just a plain good idea. But no, not in this case.

    This makes me wonder: Is there a technical reason (I am no big hardware tweaker myself, so I am asking) that an assembly as seen with the G3/G4 macs can't be done in the PC world? Mount the motherboard on a swing-out side panel and leave enough room for the connectors so that it can be opened even when the box is running, and nothing snags or breaks? Why isn't this the standard way of mounting a PC?

    questions, questions, but I am sure the /. crowd has some answers :-)

    1. Re:Disappointed, no oven door by Junta · · Score: 2

      Though not a side door, many Dell's ship where you can open things up that wide and easy.... Hard to do in a DIY system, but OEMs are certainly capable of such systems...

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  38. The Hi-Fi PC by Rui+del-Negro · · Score: 2

    If you want a case that would go well with your stereo / VCR / TV, check out this one:

    ATC600

    RMN
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  39. Re:NOT a Mac case clone; lacks best Mac case featu by Zaiff+Urgulbunger · · Score: 1

    Does anyone know where there are some decent pictures of an Apple case thats opened up?

    I mean, we've all heard the propoganda (oh, the Nazi's did propoganda**), but I never actually see any pictures of an Apple with all of its guts hanging out. So to speak!

    **[Joke - works best if you're into Eddie Izzard]

  40. The worst of both worlds by Rui+del-Negro · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    > has a door that simply swings open after you
    > pull the latch, even while the system is running


    I've read this on more than one post. Not exactly a unique feature, is it? I mean, don't all PCs continue to run normally when you open the case? Or, if they're running Windows ME, don't they continue to crash normally? :-)

    And don't a lot of cases (Chieftec, etc.) open with a simple latch?

    Personally I even find real Mac cases ugly, and this one is uglier. :-P

    I really can't see how this article belongs in Slashdot. Are they going to mention every new PC case that hits the market? Or are these cases made / sold by some member of Slashdot's staff...?

    This is nearly as bad as the article about adding a plexiglass bubble to your case, which apart from being terribly interesting (NOT), didn't have a single picture in focus.

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    1. Re:The worst of both worlds by EvilFrog · · Score: 1

      Obviously you've never opened up a Mac tower.

      Sure, a lot of PCs can be opened reasonably simply while the machine is on... but not like a Mac. The question is the accessability of the components, and the ease of opening, and having worked with Macs and PCs extensively, not a single case has ever come anywhere near as easy to access as the G3/G4 tower.

    2. Re:The worst of both worlds by Rui+del-Negro · · Score: 2

      Have you ever used a Chieftec workstation case? You can reach just about every single component easily (boards, memory, CPUs, etc. - not that you'll want to replace those while it's on ;-), even on large motherboards. The front panel also comes off, the disks use cages that snap into place and have a place to attach an 80 mm fan, and the external bays all use plastic rails (to avoid vibration). In all, it has 13 bays and is only a mid-tower. Also, doesn't use any screws (except for the cards). Pretty good, considering PC cases have to be designed to accomodate unknow peripherals. And looks pretty good, too.

      Some branded PCs also come with pretty good cases, namely some Compaq workstations, but I'm allergic to Compaqs so I don't even like them when the case is closed... :-P

      P.S. - Still waiting for the "flames", dear moderators...

      RMN
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    3. Re:The worst of both worlds by SN74S181 · · Score: 1

      I am wondering why the hell it's considered a good design to be able to open a Mac case while the computer is on. Are the drives, memory, or CPU hot-swappable? Not hardly.

      It seems like an opportunity for the typical Mac user to foul up their system beyond belief.

  41. Re:NOT a Mac case clone; lacks best Mac case featu by rattler14 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I admit, I used to be just like this guy. I used to work at a PC store/repair shop and I despised macs to no end. In fact, the company I worked for wouldn't even allow someone to drop one off because no one wanted to deal with "those damn macs".

    So, i was a mac hater for a long time. And i would use all the excuses that people still use. They don't have any software support, they are expensive, people only buy them cause they're pretty, etc etc.

    But,a few months ago a friend of mine bought a powerbook, and i began my usual mac taunting. He then told me to come over and try it out. Now I own a powerbook and i'm happy as all hell with it.

    Point being, give'em a chance. Go and try using one at an apple store for a little while. Mac bashing without ever trying one (especially since OS X) is like posting comments on /. without reading the damn article first.

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  42. Re:NOT a Mac case clone; lacks best Mac case featu by ckd · · Score: 5, Informative
    Does anyone know where there are some decent pictures of an Apple case thats opened up?

    Try Apple's Power Mac "expansion" page.

  43. Artificial Intelligence by phaxkolumbo · · Score: 1

    We PC users feel inferior because of the recent study about mac users being more intelligent, so we need special cases to feel (or at least pretend to be) smarter.

    Makes you wonder though... one day after the aforementoned study, now this?

    self-esteem complex, anyone?

  44. Bud Tuggly by bill.sheehan · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Wow - Slashdot is letting AC trolls select the front-page stories! Nevertheless, I'll bite.

    It's not a Mac. Doesn't look a blessed thing like a Mac. Doesn't have any of the attractive features of a Mac (flip down motherboard, e.g.) It doesn't have the fit and finish of a Mac. It's not ergonomic. It doesn't look like the ventilation is all that good, either.

    I was recently in the market for a new case. This is what I wanted. Unfortunately, the Chancellor of the Exchequer and Keeper of the Privy Purse shot me down. So I've got a big beige box with beaucoup fans. It's functional, and sits under the table where big ugly boxes belong.

    Now, how about some Stuff That Matters?

    News for birds. Stuff that splatters.

    1. Re:Bud Tuggly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Unfortunately, the Chancellor of the Exchequer and Keeper of the Privy Purse shot me down.
      I just looked at the cases and I have one thing to say:

      As she should have.

    2. Re:Bud Tuggly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Who earns the bread?! You, or her?

    3. Re:Bud Tuggly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Take a look at this.

      Okay, granted, there's a bunch of foo-foo colorific crap (you could do the same with some sandpaper & careful application of spray paint for a lot less), but the white and/or black is nice. At the bottom of the front is a pop-up panel that exposes a front-mounted USB connector, which counts for more in my book.

      Aside from this it's just another rectangular box, so it's certainly no G4 clone. In fact, they made a laughable attempt at one.

    4. Re:Bud Tuggly by bill.sheehan · · Score: 2
      Counting her bonus, last year she made more than me. I guess that makes me a kept man.

      "Just a gigalo..."

  45. This is lame. by systembug · · Score: 1

    Really. If you buy PC's, for whatever reason, stand to it. Trying to make it look like a Mac is just low.

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    1. Re:This is lame. by foniksonik · · Score: 2

      Tell that to this guy who made an XP skin for OS X.

      Seems like the grass really does look greener on the other side.

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  46. Just a DAMN BEIGE BOX IN DISGUISE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why bother to wait for the review next week? It's just a standard ugly box with some crapiola facing. What makes a good box is not just on the outside.. I get sick looking at the layout inside... it's the standard crap box.. and for god's sake what's with the stupid design of having a flap for the front inputs?!?!?!?! Most of us will be using at least one of the ports and makes the damn flap useless.. how about making the design around the inputs so it blends in without the usage of a front flap.

  47. *Hardly* by MissMyNewton · · Score: 1

    This is no more a Mac case clone than a Hyundai is a Ferrari clone

    IM(NS)HO, of course

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  48. Or... by asavage · · Score: 2
    Ever wanted a Mac case for your pc?

    You could Build a PC Inside of a Mac

  49. This thing looks great!!!!!! by sg3000 · · Score: 1, Troll

    I love this case! It doesn't look like something Apple would build, because IT LOOKS BETTER! You just don't like it because it's too cutting edge for you and Apple wouldn't have the courage to release something like this.

    Of course, this is just my opinion. I happen to love this product too.

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    1. Re:This thing looks great!!!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You just don't like it because it's too cutting edge for you

      Yeah, nobody's elitist here...

  50. pretty cool but... by DuckWing · · Score: 1

    That's a nice looking case, but it lacks one major feature of the G4 Mac cases, the ability to pull down the cover where the MB is actuall attached and get access to everthing nicely. nice looking plastics though.

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  51. Re:NOT a Mac case clone; lacks best Mac case featu by Scooby+Snacks · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The picture the other poster linked to is nice, but to really appreciate it, I suggest you visit a computer store that sells Macs, find an understanding salesperson, and ask to have a look inside the case (even if you don't do it yourself, have them open it up). It's really a thing of beauty.

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  52. Re:NOT a Mac case clone; lacks best Mac case featu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am tired of these fucking Mac articles. I am tired of you Apple marketing astroturfers. When is Slashdot going to be about geek stuff again?

    Rob? Did they core out your skull or something?

    When did you sell the dried husk of Slashdot to Apple Computer as a marketing gimmick?

  53. They may well get sued by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A company in Japan was successfully sued for making a line of PCs that looked like Macs. It was reported on "Japan this day"(tm), on NHK World about two years ago.

  54. MOD PARENT UP - UNDERRATED by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who is the idiot that keeps modding messages WITHOUT A SINGLE REPLY as flamebait? Do you even know what the word means...? Christ, Slashdot moderators should have to do an IQ test...

    And BTW, I agree with the guy above who said this looks more like free advertising than news. I bet the editor who decided to post this crap has a little shop where he sells those ugly cases.

    News by nerds - stuff that no-one gives a fuck about!

    1. Re:MOD PARENT UP - UNDERRATED by SN74S181 · · Score: 1

      I bet the editor who decided to post this crap has a little shop where he sells those ugly cases.


      Look again, around the Slashdot site. In Preferences there have suddenly appeared all kinds of new Apple topics in the last several months.

      This article has been placed here as an opportunity for the Apple astroturfers to poke fun at a cheap case and hype all that wunnerful Apple hardware.

      This place is getting to be more of a Mac shill site every week.

  55. Interesting, but.... by TomHandy · · Score: 1
    Aside from it not really capturing the elegance of the lines of the actual design (much like many other PC manufacturer's attempts to mimic the design language Apple is currently employing), it looks like this case doesn't include the swing open door for quick access to the motherboard, which in my opinion is the best part of the Power Mac G3 and G4 case design, hands down. You can see how it swings open here.

    This is my favorite function of the Power Mac case design and I wish more PC case designers would lift it.......some of them are getting better, but still haven't found much close to this (the closest I remember was some Toshiba designs where the motherboard could be slid out somehow....not as good, but an interesting start).

  56. It Comes In Black by Myopic · · Score: 1

    hey, taco, it comes in black.

  57. This isn't a clone... by greygent · · Score: 2

    It's farkin' hideous... the design, the color, the functionality, etc.

    The only thing it has in common with a Mac case is the shiny plastic.

  58. Mac hardware design has BEEN superior for years by lucifuge31337 · · Score: 2, Informative

    As a former repair tech at a PC/Apple shop, I've known for years that Apple has been consistantly (not 100% of the time, just most times) superior to other consmer PCs as far as hardware design goes. Cases included.

    And has anyone has the occasion to use Apple ServiceSource? Simply the best repair documentation ever. Down to sample startup sounds for the laser printers. We used to put the new guys on Apple repair because just about any moron with average reading comprehension abilities and a screwdriver could follow the procedures in there.

    The problem has always been the OS, and the costs of the hardware.

    Fixing one out of two isn't bad, right?

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    1. Re:Mac hardware design has BEEN superior for years by Toraz+Chryx · · Score: 2

      The problem has always been the OS, and the costs of the hardware. I'd say they've managed to fix the first of those pretty well.

    2. Re:Mac hardware design has BEEN superior for years by blakespot · · Score: 1
      The problem has always been the OS, and the costs of the hardware.
      • I'd say they've managed to fix the first of those [apple.com] pretty well.
      If your goal is to run UNIX on the desktop and you also happen to place a value on your time, then you'll find that Apple has taken care of the second issue as well.

      blakespot
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    3. Re:Mac hardware design has BEEN superior for years by Toraz+Chryx · · Score: 2

      Apple gear is still fairly expensive from a price/performance perspective. (Though the Xserve DDR memory controller seems to help a LOT there, and I'd be surprised if we don't get that in the PowerMacs at MWNY)

      It's less expensive from a price/functionality or price/geeklust perspective, but for raw numbercrunching it's difficult to argue with an AthlonXP 2000+ :)

  59. mac case, what? by passion · · Score: 2

    That doesn't look much at all like a mac case - first of all it doesn't have the trademark handles, and feet that lift it up. Secondly, there's no distinctive trademark on the side.

    Just because it doesn't look like a hunk of junk doesn't mean that it looks like a mac.

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  60. This looks more like a Mac Mini-tower... by MsGeek · · Score: 2

    In fact, this is very reminiscent of my trusty G3 Blue-and-White, aka "Yosemite":

    http://www.xoxide.com/ecmid.html

    It's reasonably priced too...

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  61. keyboard PCs by StandardDeviant · · Score: 1

    I seem to recall seeing an advertisement in the back of Wired or Web Tecniques,er,New Architect every issue for exactly that. Damned if I can find the advert now that I'm actually looking for it though...

    What I really wanted to see take off was a company about three or four years ago that was making PC cases that were anodized aluminum cubes rotated such that they were effectively standing on one point. That had the advantage of using a standard square motherboard and looking terribly cool.

    1. Re:keyboard PCs by Trashman · · Score: 1

      A co-worker and I were talking about this very product a week or so ago. I think the company that you're refering to is Rock City .

      Unfortunately, they no longer exist. (Wish I could remember the name of the model they used in their adverts. Damn, she was hot!) The machines were cool looking too, but However ethsteticly pleasing the machinies looked, I don't recall ever hearing about how functional the machine's cases actually were.

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    2. Re:keyboard PCs by gmhowell · · Score: 2

      I've seen a few in some of the industry rags that I get. I thought about it, for space reasons, then I remembered how often people at work drop their keyboards. Ugh.

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    3. Re:keyboard PCs by StandardDeviant · · Score: 1

      For those curious, here's a link to a page with pictures of the machine (absolute bottom, the cube on a stand). As far as practical benefits go, I can see the cube form factor being very practical in terms of fold/slide-out panels for things like motherboard, drive array, etc...

  62. About mac-like notebooks ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I would like to see a Titanium-like PC notebook. With _big_ screen and slim shape it would be a cool thing. And of course, bigger keyboard - in Titanium a keyboard is smaller than the case and it annoys me.

  63. Note to irony impaired moderators by sg3000 · · Score: 1

    Before I get any more irony-impaired moderators too quick on the "Troll -1" draw, here is an explanation.

    this PC clone case :: a real Apple Power Mac
    as
    this 911 dressed up like a Porsche 935 :: a real Porsche 935

    That is to say, they both vaguely look alike, but in both cases, the clone is a pale comparison of the original.

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  64. How about... by johann909 · · Score: 0

    An SGI o2 Clone. Now that I'd like to see...

    1. Re:How about... by johann909 · · Score: 0

      You know what you stupid /. moderators, I am losing my damned patience with you. Here is a perfectly good comment that deserves at least a 2 or 3, and you didn't mod it up. I am sick of your egotistical, stupid, ridiculous garbage website, and the hacks that run it.

  65. Uh, no. by EvilStein · · Score: 2

    The power supply isn't proprietary. I cobbled together a G4/400 in a B&W G3 case a few years back from parts found around the building when I worked at Apple. The power supply was a plain old ATX unit.. nothing proprietary about it at all.

  66. Talking about color ... and a bit OT... by afxgrin · · Score: 2

    I have always been a fan of cheap beige cases. Not for the color itself, but specifically for the price. I also look for functionality - since I spraypaint my cases another color anyways.

    What I would like to see is a good spray that will coat my case/laptop with that 'wet'-looking gloss, and not wear down easily.

    I attempted to use one type of gloss coat on my laptop, but parts of it still wear down. (such as the corners)

    Anyone have any advice for this 'magical' gloss I'm looking for?

    1. Re:Talking about color ... and a bit OT... by EverDense · · Score: 1

      Anyone have any advice for this 'magical' gloss I'm looking for?

      Do not spray near a source of ignition
      Keep away from children
      Do not ingest
      Intentional misuse by deliberately concentrating and inhaling contents may be harmful or fatal.

      Oh yeah...
      Stop use if irritation develops.

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    2. Re:Talking about color ... and a bit OT... by seanmeister · · Score: 1

      Have you tried car wax?

  67. wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    not only is it uglier than a g4 case, it lacks the useful carrying handles! sign me up!

    1. Re:wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      However, it has the postive feature that you can load it full of nice hardware so that it's not a fucking Mac. No G4 case has that feature.

  68. Patented by dlc915 · · Score: 1

    There is a reason it doesn't look exactly like a mac case.

    People here seem to have forgotten that apple (along with every other major computer manufactor) patents their products. If this company made a case that looked exactly like the mac case, they'd probably get their asses sued off by apple inc.

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  69. Shop Mac/Zenith 7600 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So you can cram an ATX mother board into a PC, i can cram a B&W into a shop vac! http://applefritter.com/hacks/shopmac/index.html

    Or Mod an old Zenith Radio case for a 7600.
    http://applefritter.com/hacks/dlz3/index.ht ml

  70. Re:NOT a Mac case clone; lacks best Mac case featu by Juanvaldes · · Score: 1
    Mac bashing without ever trying one (especially since OS X) is like posting comments on /. without reading the damn article first

    And sadly both happen all the time...congrats on having a open mind, even if it took a while.
  71. Not That :Nice! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So Silly,

    Let's see we can make our PC LOOK like a MAC from the exterior. Then we have all these silly skins so we can make our desktop LOOK like a MAC. Ummm why not buy a MAC and stop this silly obsession with LOOKING like MACS. C'mon people have some originality

    1. Re:Not That :Nice! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is silly and hardly an obsession since the Mac look-a-likes appeal to an extreme minority PC users and almost no one here at Slashdot, if you've been reading the comments.

      Instead let's talk about all those Mac users running PC emulation software to make their Macs operate like a PC (buy a PC!). Let's talk about how Apple has consistently borrowed technology from the PC world (scratch the plastic on your Mac and you'll see lot's of PC inspired technology underneath).

      Originality my ass.

  72. Floppin' in the wind by kitzilla · · Score: 1

    Ah, yes...a Mac case with a slot for floppy drive. It's a dead ringer. ;-)

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    1. Re:Floppin' in the wind by SN74S181 · · Score: 1

      Well, there's no reason it can't be slightly better than a Mac and still kinda look like one...

    2. Re:Floppin' in the wind by kitzilla · · Score: 1

      You're right. The floppy bay *would* make a convenient storage slot for business cards or condoms or booklets of stamps or something.

      For it to be a Mac feature, it needs a name consistent with the rest of the company's branding. We'll call it "iStore."

      The Fall ad campaign will lead, "What will YOU store in your iStore?" It'll feature nerdy-looking guys in black turtlenecks and cute bohemian chics standing against a white background, grinning with satisfaction. The text (set in a tasteful Helvetica font--very clean) will list all the clever lifestyle items these users slip into their iStore: Moby concert tickets...a Sierra Club flyer...maybe the keys to the Rover. Because what really fits best in your iStore is iMagination (tm).

      What ya figure? An extra hundred bucks for the iStore? Maybe $150 if you want two. Subject to availability.

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    3. Re:Floppin' in the wind by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When you can write more in a day than would fit on a floppy diskette, let us know. Until then, a diskette is a useful 'backup means' for a creative person who doesn't want a day/weeks/months work to disappear because some shit hardware from Apple decided to crash irretrievably.

    4. Re:Floppin' in the wind by kitzilla · · Score: 1

      The creative work I develop in a day would fill many, many floppies.

      Floppies are convenient for quick sneakernet transfers of small files, but they're not really a safe backup media, are they? Better a Zip drive, a network directory, or a CD-RW.

      I thought ALL Slashdotters had CD burners. ;-)

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  73. Your friend doesn't think much does he? by SensitiveMale · · Score: 1
    Does he ever consider why he spends so much time in each case that he has to keep the covers off?

    Sounds like a problem to me.

  74. Since when do looks count for anything? by skinfitz · · Score: 1

    Since when does the appearance of a machine affect it's functionality? I get immensely irritated by the whiney 'my computer is better than yours because I think it looks better' Mac crowd.

    Please, all Mac users, grow up.

    1. Re:Since when do looks count for anything? by Tokerat · · Score: 1


      Well, since looks don't matter, I guess you dont' mind that you just made yourself look like a total ass, righ tin the middle of /.

      The Mac isnt about 'how cool the plastic case is', it's about 'how fast and easy to use the OS is' and 'how I am still running 5 year old Mac hardware with many of the latest programs (Photoshop 7?) at a reasonable speed'.

      Please, all x86 biggots, grow up.

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    2. Re:Since when do looks count for anything? by 0x0d0a · · Score: 2

      And then everyone in the x86 world runs out and starts bragging about their Enlightenment setup. :-)

    3. Re:Since when do looks count for anything? by skinfitz · · Score: 1

      *sigh*

      Thankyou for proving my point.

    4. Re:Since when do looks count for anything? by Tokerat · · Score: 2

      *shakes head*

      Actually, I said I could care less about how a Mac looks, and more about how it functions.

      Troll...

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    5. Re:Since when do looks count for anything? by skinfitz · · Score: 1

      So speaketh another whiney mac user from the 'my computer is better than yours because it's older' bridage.

    6. Re:Since when do looks count for anything? by Tokerat · · Score: 1



      You are simply a dickhead troll. Nothing more. Kindly fuck off.

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    7. Re:Since when do looks count for anything? by skinfitz · · Score: 1

      And now we hit the bottom of the barrel. Funny how any critisism of the mac is met with normally one of two arguments:

      1. (for newer macs) "I think it looks better therefore it must work better."

      2. (for older macs) "My computer is older than yours so it must be better."

      and when those collapse, good old fashioned abuse.

  75. Multiple HDs improve performance by yerricde · · Score: 1

    Ditch the three hard drives for one large hard drive. Partition as necessary.

    And watch disk performance go down the tube when one head seeks back and forth between the swap file and the data. For another thing, how did you know that the hard drives weren't in a RAID array?

    Put an IDE internal ZIP drive in the floppy bay ... Put [a floppy drive] in the 3.5" floppy drive bay

    Ummm... neither the PC floppy bus nor the ATA bus is hot swap capable.

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    1. Re:Multiple HDs improve performance by ocbwilg · · Score: 2

      Ummm... neither the PC floppy bus nor the ATA bus is hot swap capable.

      Which would almost be relevant if I had actually claimed that either of them was. But I didn't, and I find it odd that the only way you could come up with anything to post about was to cut and paste my post to make it look like I have made claims that I have not made. Are you really that bored?

  76. We have all the good brands: Sorny, Panaphonic... by banal+avenger · · Score: 1

    Reminds me of the E-Power and the eOne. Coincidentally, all three of them share a common feature: They look like cheap Mac rip-offs that would cause any self respecting PC user to be the victim of a beat down for being a wuss. And, if any lesson can be learned from the fate of the former two, it isn't a good idea to walk around admitting that you tried to mimic the Mac design.

  77. Ever wanted a Mac case for your pc? by igottheloot · · Score: 1

    "Ever wanted a Mac case for your pc?" fuck no.

  78. ugly. just like the real thing. by StrifeCX · · Score: 0

    i cant stand using a mac for very long, not just cuz its slow on the internet, i cant stand the design. it looks like something a 5 year old came up with. i love my plain grey monitor and case.

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  79. Jesus by thedbp · · Score: 1

    Does anybody else think that it looks like a 9500 deep fried in a shiny silver shellack coating?

  80. A Fake Mac case is just a fake! by MickNobody · · Score: 1

    I'm a BSD Geek who sells PC & Mac's for a living...I demo Power Mac's all day long.....All I want is a nice pc case that FOLDS OUT like a mac case.....Elongated oval drives doors and a handle do not make for a Mac Case......

  81. Fundamental problem: it's nothing like a Mac case by connorbd · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here's the thing: I've seen a PC case that is built like a Mac case, and it's a clusterfuck.

    Walk into any CompUSA and go looking for a case that bears a significant resemblance to a late-model HP Pavilion case. I don't even want to get into the quality of the case (execrable; it's meant for a full ATX board but has piss-poor ventilation; it also falls apart a bit too easily) or the looks of the case (copies HP's design while completely failing to capture its elegance). The big problem is that the ATX spec just doesn't work for this kind of design.

    The case in question (I think it's OEM by Fujitsu, but this is more speculation than anything else) initially appealed to me because of its easy access design. Just like a Mac case, it's a drop-side design, and in theory could probably be opened up while running. The big problem is that it's just not practical with the current design; the ATX power connectors are usually towards the top of the board, which is a very inconvenient place for a power cable; not only is the cable in the power supply that comes with the case too short, there is no obvious way to get it out of the way of daughtercards, fans, etc.

    I do think a case design like this is a really good idea. Unfortunately, it's just not practical with the ATX spec, and the case featured in the parent article (which is a very poor rendition of its inspiration to begin with) is just a plain old case. At least the Lian Li cases have easy-removal mobo trays and substantial sex appeal... /Brian

  82. This is *almost* useful. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Now if someone would just release a regular BEIGE case that I can fit a G4 Mobo into, I might consider getting some new Mac hardware.

    I have multiple computers, some of them are Macs. I will not buy a new Mac because they are so damned ugly.

    I don't want it to look "pretty" I want it to look normal. I can not take seriously any machine that looks like it came from the Buck Rogers prop room.

  83. Re:We have all the good brands: Sorny, Panaphonic. by oldstrat · · Score: 2

    My E-one(433)'s are still ticking along just fine.
    I know there were a number that had problems with hard drives (one of mine did, right out of the box), and that the power supplies are too small.
    But to fault the design as too, mac'ish is too simple an approach to the reason for the demise.
    The All-In-One approach, using notebook components is a solid, right idea, green lowpower computers with tight integration between components.
    Just the computer for Mom, or the kids.
    The addition, or non removal of the PCMCIA slots was great, and the inclusion of RCA video in to capture video straight from the VCR, great.
    I'm not claiming the the machines were powerhouses, they were not, and were not mean't to be.
    The killer was the law suit over 'look infringement'.
    That combined with production flaws and shipping induced failures killed the EOne, but only the Courts can hold back the concept.
    The All-In-One has been here before, and it will come back again, the popularity of all notebook homes (homes with more than one PC, but no desktop PC's) is a sign of consumer demand.

  84. PC Cases? by TibbonZero · · Score: 2

    But don't most PC cases look and feel close enough? If not, I am going to go patent a Black computer case and the "Retro" Beige case right now..

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