performing a search that comes up with a bunch of other peoples email is definately unreasonable.
Besides, what is to really stop them from looking in the other emails and seeing something possibly incriminating?
Suppose I was talking to my friend about my new AK/47, and (joking around) started talking about modifying the chamber and the firing pin, and making a new threaded end to fit my custom-made silencer?
Don't think it wouldn't happen. I for one have done such emails, JOKING around. However, as with most conversation, most humour is tongue-in-cheek and only really "gotten" between two people who know each other. The rest would think you're going to go into some bell tower and start picking people off. (with an AK-47 LOL.. right.. nice sniper gun. see? humour that only people who know would get)
Uhmm.. I have to go, theres some black cars driving up...
Now, let's get down to History 101. Redhat started off selling Linux on CDROM with instructions. That is how almost every Linux distributor (thus the name) came around, and still do it. Since Redhat decided to go IPO they have had to somehow increase revenues and gain market through different tactics. This is there problem... Redhat was doing great before the IPO, as they continued to sell their Redhat Linux solution to newcomers.
Now we are in the catch-22 where they have this business structure that is a stable form of income but doesn't satisfy stockholders and growing executives within the company.
I hate to sound cold and heartless, but as anyone else would say if it was me on the other end: I missed the part where that was my problem?
This means that if RedHat designs any software and puts it under the GPL, we all instantly get free access to the patents, forever. Even if we want to re-engineer the solution using proprietary software. according to the GPL (and no.. I'm not a karma whore, who the hell cares about that.) -- start gpl peice-- If identifiable sections of that work are not derived from the Program, and can be reasonably considered independent and separate works in themselves, then this License, and its terms, do not apply to those sections when you distribute them as separate works. --end gpl peice --
You have to distribute them as seperate works in order to have them not apply as GPL code... because of this section right after the above:
--start gpl peice-- But when you distribute the same sections as part of a whole which is a work based on the Program, the distribution of the whole must be on the terms of this License, whose permissions for other licensees extend to the entire whole, and thus to each and every part regardless of who wrote it. -- end gpl peice--
Pretty much if you re-engineer and completely rewrite an app, your in the clear. But, you can't just re-engineer by modifying the code and start selling it.
It appears that a company could enforce a patent as long as the code is NOT derivative! So you couldn't write your own Tux equivalent, but you COULD modify the existing code. This is quite odd.
Derivative means derived from... if you modify existing code, the said code is derived from the old code.
So, no... if it says that a company could enforce a patent as long as the code is not derivative, then modifying existing code and patenting it is not allowed.
Anyway, I'm a less than avid RH user. I got hooked on them back in the day, and, well, you know how that is. I've currently got three boxes running it. I'd love to switch, but three boxes? Damnit, I don't want to go through that again (Hell of a lot easier to keep one distro - one download of sec updates.)
I hear you there...but why not try out something new one one of those boxes and expand your horizons? Unless that's not what you want to do, and are using Redhat as a nice alternative to a Windows desktop.
Right, considering the amount of stuff RH's given to the community? They don't deserve crap like this.
Redhat has done quite a few good things, I have to agree with you there.
Ah well, most of the complainers are either source-zealots
sorry guy, this is where I have to interject. I am by far not a "source-zealot" and severely dislike the word zealot being thrown around nowadays like the word "witch" in the early days of America. I agree with the ideals of the "source-zealots", and it doesn't take that much bandwidth at all. Gentoo for instance does not require broadband access, but it does realistically require a fast processor. (for the compiles) 56k dialup is rather old school and just downloading updates is an issue over an analog connection... so the relation is a moot point. (You've used Windows Update, yeesh.. that thing smacks you around bandwidth wise)
Debian? Where's the support? The debian website? Most IRC channels? Most any techhead that's out there? Hell, pop into irc.openprojects.net and go to #slashdot, I'm sure there'll be more than one person there at any time to help.
We can prove this by the fact that open source development consists entirely of chasing tail lights, and never involves doing anything original. We know that's true because Microsoft says so
I know this was meant as a tongue-in-cheek statement, but I'll bite.
As far as open source development not being original, I would imagine that most of the things being brought out today aren't original in the least, just have a different interface..NET, Microsoft's haralded god of programming environments, is nothing more than the idea of distributed objects, as Java had in mind. (and somehow didn't capitalize on like they said they were going to do, thank god they didn't.)
that they have responsibilities, not only to the firm, but also to their families and themselves.
And with one sentence you showed that you just made them give up some of their responsibility to their family and themselves.
As such, I made absolutely sure they were all in attendance at a mandatory 2 hour and 12 minutes design review and education seminar I had organized at 12:01 AM on Thursday -- for their co-operation I allowed them to show up after lunch that same day.
Why the hell would you do something like this in the middle of the night? It is both unprofessional and quite erratic. I'm surprised upper-management didn't get wind of this and chew you out for disolving morale.
Work/life balance, there is such a thing. Your responsibility as an employee is to complete tasks and to be at work. NOT to be a slave.
It is very different if you are a developer on a tight timeline for a release and you need to complete new functions in order to meet the timeline, but a design review and education seminar *can* be scheduled during normal business hours. That is egotistical and self-centered. They aren't dogs that need to be trained for their proper responsibilities, they are humans and have something other than work in there life.
If I were you, I'd watch my back. No, that isn't a threat, but I can only imagine that there might be a few people that would snap after a bit too much of this and slide on a black ski-mask to meet you at your car at work at 12:01am the next time.
Just imagine how bringing in her physical characteristics makes her feel? yeesh... Personally, I think she answered the questions very intellectually, though of course with the normal marketeze. Posting a picture of her is childish... especially considering you KNOW what the next few posts are going to consist of. ("wow, she's a hottie", or "oink oink" as the two posts responding to yours already did)
She *does* read slashdot, you know. It's not like your talking about someone who's so distant from you that there will be absolutely nill reprocussion. (whether passive or active)
Later we were forced to buy a Compaq/Win NT solution. An engineer arrived and unpacked. Started the NT Install. Applied the service packs. Installed MS SQL. Ran the configuration tools and got a blue screen. Formatted. Installed NT again. Installed SQL. Installed Service packs. SQL blue screened. Installed SQL. Worked. Discovered that SQL couldn't handle clustering, despite written assurance that solution would allow clustering. Total time to get a working NT solution - 6 weeks. Server still needs to be rebooted about every other week. Still waiting on a rewrite of the software so that we can use the latest MS SQL that does support clustering.
You know, I don't quite understand companies that run Unix (or a Unix blend) and suddenly find themselves needing to "upgrade". If the machine is not bogged down, and just needs parts, they should buy them... if it's bogged down, horizontally scale it.
The engineer coming in and not being able to cluster the "solution" would have made me breach the contract. There are alot of other softwares that can cluster, namely Oracle and Sybase.
Just reaffirms the advice that everyone should have 3-6 months of expenses banked away. I finally got there and have never been sorry (well, I had some nagging thoughts during the dotcom stock craze about missed opportunity, but not now). No, it wasn't easy... but I sure sleep better.
I wish I would have done that when I was working. I used to have a great job, the peak of my career as a Unix Engineer. I've been unemployed for close to a year now after massive layoffs and from what it appears the whole industry expects you to suddenly have a masters degree and 10 years experience for the same price.
Can't even get a freakin' job as a customer service representative now.
Gang, if you have a job, love it. I did while I was working, and I still think back to that time. I had more confidence back then too... amazing what something like a good job with good people around you can do for you.
Try another distro like gentoo [gentoo.org] then. I can run KDE 3 pretty fast on my p-pro 200 (a bit faster than KDE 2.2.2), and about the same speed as GNOME/gtk apps.
Awww yeah... Gentoo is da bomb.
I use it on my 450Mhz which I have ran Redhat, Mandrake, Debian, and various other distributions on. I have to say, the optimizations of Gentoo are astounding. (namely because it's compiled specifically for your processor)
You've got your facts wrong there... it's the fact that debian has bug fixes for individual packages. They *do* have version-r(number) that they update every so often ya know.
After all, it is only one of the most stable - not to mention commercial - distros currently in existence!:-)
You might want to retract your statement about it being one of the most stable....
Sure, it's commercialized to hell and back, but it's not one of the most stable. One of the most beginner user-friendly... (mandrake and redhat rank up there)
You're buying yourself a ticket to disaster if you use Ext2 on "mission critical" servers. Better use XFS. From the link below you can download a modified Red Hat distribution (just XFS was added to the Red Hat kernel, there's no other change) which allows you to install directly on XFS:
Problem is, in a mission critical situation you want to be able to split, grow, and other things with your partitions on the fly. XFS doesn't provide the shrinking ability.
EXT3 and ReiserFS do... unfortunately it's best to take ReiserFS offline when you shrink a partition.
I agree with you, and have seen that from Windows 3.1 until now. Amazing how when you install a Microsoft product some parts of the operating system widgets change. (dll changes = Operating system hook changes, the widgets are just to guide you away from it) Not too many other companies have the ability to reconstruct the underlying operating system to suit the APPLICATION. (system files guys... it's like installing OpenOffice1.0 and it reconstructing your kernel and modules to suit it's needs without telling you.)
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performing a search that comes up with a bunch of other peoples email is definately unreasonable.
Besides, what is to really stop them from looking in the other emails and seeing something possibly incriminating?
Suppose I was talking to my friend about my new AK/47, and (joking around) started talking about modifying the chamber and the firing pin, and making a new threaded end to fit my custom-made silencer?
Don't think it wouldn't happen. I for one have done such emails, JOKING around. However, as with most conversation, most humour is tongue-in-cheek and only really "gotten" between two people who know each other. The rest would think you're going to go into some bell tower and start picking people off. (with an AK-47 LOL.. right.. nice sniper gun. see? humour that only people who know would get)
Uhmm.. I have to go, theres some black cars driving up...
Thanks for the theatrics.
Now, let's get down to History 101. Redhat started off selling Linux on CDROM with instructions. That is how almost every Linux distributor (thus the name) came around, and still do it. Since Redhat decided to go IPO they have had to somehow increase revenues and gain market through different tactics. This is there problem... Redhat was doing great before the IPO, as they continued to sell their Redhat Linux solution to newcomers.
Now we are in the catch-22 where they have this business structure that is a stable form of income but doesn't satisfy stockholders and growing executives within the company.
I hate to sound cold and heartless, but as anyone else would say if it was me on the other end: I missed the part where that was my problem?
This means that if RedHat designs any software and puts it under the GPL, we all instantly get free access to the patents, forever. Even if we want to re-engineer the solution using proprietary software.
according to the GPL (and no.. I'm not a karma whore, who the hell cares about that.)
-- start gpl peice--
If identifiable sections of that work are not derived from the Program, and can be reasonably considered independent and separate works in themselves, then this License, and its terms, do not apply to those sections when you distribute them as separate works.
--end gpl peice --
You have to distribute them as seperate works in order to have them not apply as GPL code... because of this section right after the above:
--start gpl peice--
But when you distribute the same sections as part of a whole which is a work based on the Program, the distribution of the whole must be on the terms of this License, whose permissions for other licensees extend to the entire whole, and thus to each and every part regardless of who wrote it.
-- end gpl peice--
Pretty much if you re-engineer and completely rewrite an app, your in the clear. But, you can't just re-engineer by modifying the code and start selling it.
It appears that a company could enforce a patent as long as the code is NOT derivative! So you couldn't write your own Tux equivalent, but you COULD modify the existing code. This is quite odd.
Derivative means derived from... if you modify existing code, the said code is derived from the old code.
So, no... if it says that a company could enforce a patent as long as the code is not derivative, then modifying existing code and patenting it is not allowed.
Anyway, I'm a less than avid RH user. I got hooked on them back in the day, and, well, you know how that is. I've currently got three boxes running it. I'd love to switch, but three boxes? Damnit, I don't want to go through that again (Hell of a lot easier to keep one distro - one download of sec updates.)
I hear you there...but why not try out something new one one of those boxes and expand your horizons? Unless that's not what you want to do, and are using Redhat as a nice alternative to a Windows desktop.
Right, considering the amount of stuff RH's given to the community? They don't deserve crap like this.
Redhat has done quite a few good things, I have to agree with you there.
Ah well, most of the complainers are either source-zealots
sorry guy, this is where I have to interject. I am by far not a "source-zealot" and severely dislike the word zealot being thrown around nowadays like the word "witch" in the early days of America. I agree with the ideals of the "source-zealots", and it doesn't take that much bandwidth at all. Gentoo for instance does not require broadband access, but it does realistically require a fast processor. (for the compiles) 56k dialup is rather old school and just downloading updates is an issue over an analog connection... so the relation is a moot point. (You've used Windows Update, yeesh.. that thing smacks you around bandwidth wise)
Debian? Where's the support? The debian website? Most IRC channels? Most any techhead that's out there? Hell, pop into irc.openprojects.net and go to #slashdot, I'm sure there'll be more than one person there at any time to help.
We can prove this by the fact that open source development consists entirely of chasing tail lights, and never involves doing anything original. We know that's true because Microsoft says so
.NET, Microsoft's haralded god of programming environments, is nothing more than the idea of distributed objects, as Java had in mind. (and somehow didn't capitalize on like they said they were going to do, thank god they didn't.)
I know this was meant as a tongue-in-cheek statement, but I'll bite.
As far as open source development not being original, I would imagine that most of the things being brought out today aren't original in the least, just have a different interface.
Slackware forever. Honestly, what else would you trust when it absolutely positively has to be stable, secure, and easy
Debian, *BSD?
Amen, brother.
I've been using Gentoo for about a month and a half now, and I'm loving every minute.
Course, I didn't come from Redhat, more of a Minux->Slackware->Redhat->Debian->Mand rake->Debian->Gentoo Line up over a matter of 6-7 years.
Oh baby, you'd know it...
that they have responsibilities, not only to the firm, but also to their families and themselves.
And with one sentence you showed that you just made them give up some of their responsibility to their family and themselves.
As such, I made absolutely sure they were all in attendance at a mandatory 2 hour and 12 minutes design review and education seminar I had organized at 12:01 AM on Thursday -- for their co-operation I allowed them to show up after lunch that same day.
Why the hell would you do something like this in the middle of the night? It is both unprofessional and quite erratic. I'm surprised upper-management didn't get wind of this and chew you out for disolving morale.
Work/life balance, there is such a thing. Your responsibility as an employee is to complete tasks and to be at work. NOT to be a slave.
It is very different if you are a developer on a tight timeline for a release and you need to complete new functions in order to meet the timeline, but a design review and education seminar *can* be scheduled during normal business hours. That is egotistical and self-centered. They aren't dogs that need to be trained for their proper responsibilities, they are humans and have something other than work in there life.
If I were you, I'd watch my back. No, that isn't a threat, but I can only imagine that there might be a few people that would snap after a bit too much of this and slide on a black ski-mask to meet you at your car at work at 12:01am the next time.
I don't work with you, just so that you know.
The 'r' and the 'a' are right next to each other?
WTF are you talking about man, unless your using some other keyboard than standard QWERTY they are on opposite ends of the HAND.
sounds to me like daddies wallet is wide open.
Just imagine how bringing in her physical characteristics makes her feel? yeesh...
Personally, I think she answered the questions very intellectually, though of course with the normal marketeze. Posting a picture of her is childish... especially considering you KNOW what the next few posts are going to consist of. ("wow, she's a hottie", or "oink oink" as the two posts responding to yours already did)
She *does* read slashdot, you know. It's not like your talking about someone who's so distant from you that there will be absolutely nill reprocussion. (whether passive or active)
I don't see where people can get off saying that apt-get is easier than pkg-get. See www.sunfreeware.com for this tool. It's very similar to apt.
I do believe that the question was meant for packages that come with solaris...
You have to get pkg-get yourself.
Later we were forced to buy a Compaq/Win NT solution. An engineer arrived and unpacked. Started the NT Install. Applied the service packs. Installed MS SQL. Ran the configuration tools and got a blue screen. Formatted. Installed NT again. Installed SQL. Installed Service packs. SQL blue screened. Installed SQL. Worked. Discovered that SQL couldn't handle clustering, despite written assurance that solution would allow clustering. Total time to get a working NT solution - 6 weeks. Server still needs to be rebooted about every other week. Still waiting on a rewrite of the software so that we can use the latest MS SQL that does support clustering.
You know, I don't quite understand companies that run Unix (or a Unix blend) and suddenly find themselves needing to "upgrade". If the machine is not bogged down, and just needs parts, they should buy them... if it's bogged down, horizontally scale it.
The engineer coming in and not being able to cluster the "solution" would have made me breach the contract. There are alot of other softwares that can cluster, namely Oracle and Sybase.
Just reaffirms the advice that everyone should have 3-6 months of expenses banked away. I finally got there and have never been sorry (well, I had some nagging thoughts during the dotcom stock craze about missed opportunity, but not now). No, it wasn't easy... but I sure sleep better.
I wish I would have done that when I was working. I used to have a great job, the peak of my career as a Unix Engineer. I've been unemployed for close to a year now after massive layoffs and from what it appears the whole industry expects you to suddenly have a masters degree and 10 years experience for the same price.
Can't even get a freakin' job as a customer service representative now.
Gang, if you have a job, love it. I did while I was working, and I still think back to that time. I had more confidence back then too... amazing what something like a good job with good people around you can do for you.
Try another distro like gentoo [gentoo.org] then. I can run KDE 3 pretty fast on my p-pro 200 (a bit faster than KDE 2.2.2), and about the same speed as GNOME/gtk apps.
Awww yeah... Gentoo is da bomb.
I use it on my 450Mhz which I have ran Redhat, Mandrake, Debian, and various other distributions on. I have to say, the optimizations of Gentoo are astounding. (namely because it's compiled specifically for your processor)
That'd be all well and good if there wasn't one true factor in the whole equation:
Linux isn't a commercial Operating System
:)
You've got your facts wrong there... it's the fact that debian has bug fixes for individual packages. They *do* have version-r(number) that they update every so often ya know.
After all, it is only one of the most stable - not to mention commercial - distros currently in existence! :-)
You might want to retract your statement about it being one of the most stable....
Sure, it's commercialized to hell and back, but it's not one of the most stable. One of the most beginner user-friendly... (mandrake and redhat rank up there)
You're buying yourself a ticket to disaster if you use Ext2 on "mission critical" servers.
Better use XFS. From the link below you can download a modified Red Hat distribution (just XFS was added to the Red Hat kernel, there's no other change) which allows you to install directly on XFS:
Problem is, in a mission critical situation you want to be able to split, grow, and other things with your partitions on the fly. XFS doesn't provide the shrinking ability.
EXT3 and ReiserFS do... unfortunately it's best to take ReiserFS offline when you shrink a partition.
Name the last time you saw the price of lightbulbs even comes close to multiple licenses of Oracle.
Only by pretending to be an expert when the only OS he knows is Windows...
Kinda like calling yourself a IT Professional when the only operating system you can use is Windows (NT or 2000)
well he's wrong.. WRONG I tell you!
"they're all gonna laugh at you!" --Adam Sandler
I agree with you, and have seen that from Windows 3.1 until now. Amazing how when you install a Microsoft product some parts of the operating system widgets change. (dll changes = Operating system hook changes, the widgets are just to guide you away from it) Not too many other companies have the ability to reconstruct the underlying operating system to suit the APPLICATION. (system files guys... it's like installing OpenOffice1.0 and it reconstructing your kernel and modules to suit it's needs without telling you.)