It ranks right up there with people asking for Windows that doesn't have viruses or applications that crash. 15 years ago = 1994 A low end 486 was common then... Anyone expecting (that's the keyword) that hardware to last 15 years has no idea what anything is about with the hardware and needs to be educated a touch to make that kind of decision. Otherwise, if the education part is laughed at, the person will have to consult with someone who knows and take their recommendation instead. It's pretty common in this world. We go to doctors because we don't have the time or ambition to learn it. We go to auto shops because we don't have the time or ambition to learn it. Now of course that doesn't apply to everyone, but it's just how society works in general.
You surely can't conclude that a 5 year blip on the radar (the time the bush administration had before average people just gave up on him) represents eeverything America is. North Korea has been around for far far far far longer than 5 years, with the same activity the entire time. Of course with blips here and there, but we're talking general. Besides, America didn't believe Iraq had WMD, Bush and republican allies did. American's also were a touch on-guard when the errily Orwellian ongoing war scenario was brought up by Cheney. Most realized that is virtually impossible and kind of stood there with their mouth open kind of waiting for the punchline to the joke...
Excuse you, but 35 is not automatically management age for anybody. Some people do stay with their field and are damned good at it. After all, 35 is by no means near the word "old".
By your assumption, all working people are 20-31 or something... wow.
You're obviously a rocket scientist with a doctorate in some variance of the medical field.
It's pretty much a *given* that smoking and drinking does effect the skin. Hell, as a smoker I knew it and after quitting saw the change myself. Other's around me, also.
The thing is, not every application works on Debian. There are alot of applications out now that are binary-only and are purchased for Red Hat Enterprise.
Debian is great if you are managing applications in.deb format, or are either open source or available in source code in some way. Most business software has turned into requiring "industry standard" operating environments in order to be accepted by management. The reason for this is that it's easier to ask for Red Hat certification than it is for Debian certification, with the same results. That, along with the added bit of SOX compliance recently, and other hurdles thrown in that are adding in so many levels of troubles for management that it's easier to isolate them down to a given standard that is accepted by so many levels. I'm an old school Linux admin (started with slackware in 1995-96) and I deal with Gentoo, Debian, and CentOS outside of work... at work, in highly visible positions I use CentOS or RHEL.
In not-so-visible situations, I use CentOS, Debian, and Gentoo.
Lets stop paying for our vehicles to be on the road (tags, registration) along with taxes in the fuel. Those resources are used for state-based roads, along with a portion of state income/sales tax. (these sentences were meant as sarcasm, by the way) Let's just pay for a corporation to profit! Since that is the only reason a corporation exists in the first place...
disability insurance is inherently for people who cannot work. Therefor, paying for it is a touch hard.
As far as private fire fighters... go to New York in the 1800's and we'll talk.
Law inforcement is paid for by state municipal resources. The tax style has no bearing on that since it's a different layer. You are attempting to tack the two together, and they are not intermixed. Graduated income tax is something that keeps someone making 30K a year from paying 40-50% of their paycheck but someone making $100K paying 12-15% of their paycheck to government taxes. Graduated income tax just keeps things in check, and doesn't "rape and pillage" the low-income by having a flat rate.
Privatization of anything that simply provides resources to a society is a dismal idea at best since it's prime motivation is profit.
I can't believe how many holes you've put into one post... it's as if you've read a pamphlet on capitalism written in 1950 and are using that as fodder...
Never put together working hard to making money. You can meet a need of a communal society in 2 seconds. The only reason I feel adamant about this is because I've actually walked through the fire of needing help that quickly. One moment you make enough to retire at 45, the next moment you have nothing, all because of someone else's mistake physically. Believing you can live in a country that would let me die makes me realize I would kill you if I could.
As for disability, why should the fact that something bad happened to you mean everyone else should be punished? Do you really think you are so important that if you could no longer work (and therefore not make money, assuming you're living alone with no family) that the rest of the population should pay you to sit at home and do nothing? That is a terrible waste of money and a huge burden to society.
If I have a bad day and decide that I want to plow over you as you walk across the road and you can't do anything for 6-12 months, then it's okay just to let you crawl away and die I guess.
As for caring about what happens to those who can't pay? Sure, it sucks, but again I say why should everyone else be punished because some made bad choices (or in rare cases in normal economic times had bad luck)? Just because your life isn't as good as you want it to be doesn't mean everyone else in the country should be punished for it.
This is callus and tasteless, and is not being responded to but highlighted so others can laugh at you, also.
Societies have evolved into more than live-and-let-die for more than 500-1000 years at least. Wow. It's a pack mentality, and you always have the back of your own race. Otherwise, you're a rabid animal, or a nomad.
I hear ya there... I was fully corrected after a motorcycle accident and bed-ridden/unemployed for months. Everything was state sponsored, except for my living arrangements. While that's a touch disturbing, just the thought that a $250K+ medical bill disappeared into thin air and a $15-$20K medical attachment (needed for walking) was paid for in order to allow life to continue properly, along with food moneys and such, all provided by government resources. Of course I paid taxes for many years in large doses, but just the sheer thought that your helpless and getting help to survive in a modern way without slothing into the underbrush like some would expect you, is enough to make you smile a little.
Tell me, exactly, how we need government to pay for our roads when they're getting the money to do it from us, anyway?
For the same reason we need NASA to organize space flight, the milk companies to organize farmers for milk production on a broad scale, and a government currency to organize a populaces fiscal motivations into one.
In other words... what, are you gonna pay for a truck to dump and pave your 30-60 feet of road and let your neighbor fail to do the same?
You know that the reason that toll roads ease congestion is... brace yourself... some people cant afford to pay more money and lose the money they've already put out in two-three other taxes for this purpose?
What are you referring to? A commandline isn't some arcane CLI you program through... The proper way to add a user has been "useradd" in Linux since I began using it in 1994. It's an added script that automates the additions to the/etc/shadow,/etc/passwd, creates the user home directory along with copying skeleton files over to it, along with miscellaneous other tasks.
The commandline is to allow an administrator to automate most tasks without any GUI at all, remotely, through a central batch script in whatever language you'd like including just shell execution of commandline syntax. Honestly I'm not even sure what the things you typed as examples of adding to a GUI actually is, although I'd imagine it's code additions of some form or another to something your developers have created... in which case, yes, you would need to know the syntax of the language in order to interface with it under any operating system.
It sounds as if you use a very obscure style of Linux for people who do not know it, or you are skewing problems of many magnitudes into one "Linux" thing.
What job capacity was it to get into a very very very early adoption of code that wasn't even really production functional yet? Just curious... the first idea of a distribution wasn't really developed until the end of 1992/beginning of 1993.
elite-ness is not what most are talking about, it's the attempt to "simplify" being forced on by changing things completely to a GUI that looks just like Windows. The Unix philosophy would totally wrap around the concept of creating a GUI that uses commandline utilities in the back-end as tools to perform the tasks and not monopolize everthing within the GUI. The GUI is for the desktop, only. Linux is server based mostly with the desktop as another avenue.
Funny since I've taken that "easy route" of installation and it's worked flawlessly. I quote easy route int here since I'm a source purist "from the sourcecode up" kinda guy. That was on Ubuntu. By the way, libdvdcss is called a dependency. When anything that uses libdvdcss is installed, any distribution that performs it's own software handling will know about the libdvdcss dependency through the software dependency listing within each software package file.
No, YOU don't want their code. WE do, to extend it for our purposes. To make yourself useful, offering potential thoughts on future upgrades or additions.
It sounds to me like you purchase a support contract through Red Hat, Oracle, or SuSE.
The primary problem with your thought pattern is you assume everyone other than the people that think right in your mindset are "delusional, unwashed basement dwellers."
In short, don't expect Linux to be a free Windows replacement with some illusional support that is somehow provided to you in the Windows realm.
The thing is, you need to know about that application before it works for those 20 years. So, essentially the right way to say that would be "there has been an application that has extended DOS/Windows boxes for over 20 years to perform a command substitution named 4DOS."
Prostitution is illegal but erotic services are not. As long as sexual acts are not taking place, then it's erotic services. It's NOT my thing, and I always raise an eyebrow when I hear about it myself. However, that doesn't make it illegal prostitution in spite of my feeling of how easy it could become that in private. It's about as vague as the (somewhat continuing) 80's fiasco with weapons being killing devices and should be banned because killing is illegal. Of course, on that note a massage/chiropractic work/doctors visit/storage area rental could become prostitution in private, also.
what I love is when you you see the ad say "I'm looking for guys between 18-45, no older!" right after the girl describes herself as 19 and this being the first time she has ever tried the internet to find people.
Slashdot Mirror
I think we'll stay clear of VAT, but thanks.
Sounds like the attention span of the typical windows user to me :D
Your right, that's why when they get enough money they buy the boxed version of Debian instead of downloading.
It ranks right up there with people asking for Windows that doesn't have viruses or applications that crash.
15 years ago = 1994
A low end 486 was common then... Anyone expecting (that's the keyword) that hardware to last 15 years has no idea what anything is about with the hardware and needs to be educated a touch to make that kind of decision. Otherwise, if the education part is laughed at, the person will have to consult with someone who knows and take their recommendation instead.
It's pretty common in this world. We go to doctors because we don't have the time or ambition to learn it. We go to auto shops because we don't have the time or ambition to learn it. Now of course that doesn't apply to everyone, but it's just how society works in general.
You surely can't conclude that a 5 year blip on the radar (the time the bush administration had before average people just gave up on him) represents eeverything America is. North Korea has been around for far far far far longer than 5 years, with the same activity the entire time. Of course with blips here and there, but we're talking general.
Besides, America didn't believe Iraq had WMD, Bush and republican allies did.
American's also were a touch on-guard when the errily Orwellian ongoing war scenario was brought up by Cheney. Most realized that is virtually impossible and kind of stood there with their mouth open kind of waiting for the punchline to the joke...
Excuse you, but 35 is not automatically management age for anybody.
Some people do stay with their field and are damned good at it. After all, 35 is by no means near the word "old".
By your assumption, all working people are 20-31 or something... wow.
You're obviously a rocket scientist with a doctorate in some variance of the medical field.
It's pretty much a *given* that smoking and drinking does effect the skin. Hell, as a smoker I knew it and after quitting saw the change myself. Other's around me, also.
You've just contradicted yourself in two sentences... amazing...
Right up there with "expect the unexpected" lol
The thing is, not every application works on Debian. There are alot of applications out now that are binary-only and are purchased for Red Hat Enterprise.
Debian is great if you are managing applications in .deb format, or are either open source or available in source code in some way. Most business software has turned into requiring "industry standard" operating environments in order to be accepted by management. The reason for this is that it's easier to ask for Red Hat certification than it is for Debian certification, with the same results. That, along with the added bit of SOX compliance recently, and other hurdles thrown in that are adding in so many levels of troubles for management that it's easier to isolate them down to a given standard that is accepted by so many levels.
I'm an old school Linux admin (started with slackware in 1995-96) and I deal with Gentoo, Debian, and CentOS outside of work... at work, in highly visible positions I use CentOS or RHEL.
In not-so-visible situations, I use CentOS, Debian, and Gentoo.
Lets stop paying for our vehicles to be on the road (tags, registration) along with taxes in the fuel. Those resources are used for state-based roads, along with a portion of state income/sales tax. (these sentences were meant as sarcasm, by the way) Let's just pay for a corporation to profit! Since that is the only reason a corporation exists in the first place...
disability insurance is inherently for people who cannot work. Therefor, paying for it is a touch hard.
As far as private fire fighters... go to New York in the 1800's and we'll talk.
Law inforcement is paid for by state municipal resources. The tax style has no bearing on that since it's a different layer. You are attempting to tack the two together, and they are not intermixed.
Graduated income tax is something that keeps someone making 30K a year from paying 40-50% of their paycheck but someone making $100K paying 12-15% of their paycheck to government taxes. Graduated income tax just keeps things in check, and doesn't "rape and pillage" the low-income by having a flat rate.
Privatization of anything that simply provides resources to a society is a dismal idea at best since it's prime motivation is profit.
I can't believe how many holes you've put into one post... it's as if you've read a pamphlet on capitalism written in 1950 and are using that as fodder...
Never put together working hard to making money.
You can meet a need of a communal society in 2 seconds. The only reason I feel adamant about this is because I've actually walked through the fire of needing help that quickly. One moment you make enough to retire at 45, the next moment you have nothing, all because of someone else's mistake physically. Believing you can live in a country that would let me die makes me realize I would kill you if I could.
I'm not joking.
As for disability, why should the fact that something bad happened to you mean everyone else should be punished? Do you really think you are so important that if you could no longer work (and therefore not make money, assuming you're living alone with no family) that the rest of the population should pay you to sit at home and do nothing? That is a terrible waste of money and a huge burden to society.
If I have a bad day and decide that I want to plow over you as you walk across the road and you can't do anything for 6-12 months, then it's okay just to let you crawl away and die I guess.
As for caring about what happens to those who can't pay? Sure, it sucks, but again I say why should everyone else be punished because some made bad choices (or in rare cases in normal economic times had bad luck)? Just because your life isn't as good as you want it to be doesn't mean everyone else in the country should be punished for it.
This is callus and tasteless, and is not being responded to but highlighted so others can laugh at you, also.
Societies have evolved into more than live-and-let-die for more than 500-1000 years at least. Wow. It's a pack mentality, and you always have the back of your own race. Otherwise, you're a rabid animal, or a nomad.
I hear ya there...
I was fully corrected after a motorcycle accident and bed-ridden/unemployed for months. Everything was state sponsored, except for my living arrangements. While that's a touch disturbing, just the thought that a $250K+ medical bill disappeared into thin air and a $15-$20K medical attachment (needed for walking) was paid for in order to allow life to continue properly, along with food moneys and such, all provided by government resources.
Of course I paid taxes for many years in large doses, but just the sheer thought that your helpless and getting help to survive in a modern way without slothing into the underbrush like some would expect you, is enough to make you smile a little.
Tell me, exactly, how we need government to pay for our roads when they're getting the money to do it from us, anyway?
For the same reason we need NASA to organize space flight, the milk companies to organize farmers for milk production on a broad scale, and a government currency to organize a populaces fiscal motivations into one.
In other words... what, are you gonna pay for a truck to dump and pave your 30-60 feet of road and let your neighbor fail to do the same?
You know that the reason that toll roads ease congestion is... brace yourself... some people cant afford to pay more money and lose the money they've already put out in two-three other taxes for this purpose?
If you feel its an INEPT and corrupt government, why continue residency in that country?
Seriously
What are you referring to? /etc/shadow, /etc/passwd, creates the user home directory along with copying skeleton files over to it, along with miscellaneous other tasks.
A commandline isn't some arcane CLI you program through...
The proper way to add a user has been "useradd" in Linux since I began using it in 1994. It's an added script that automates the additions to the
The commandline is to allow an administrator to automate most tasks without any GUI at all, remotely, through a central batch script in whatever language you'd like including just shell execution of commandline syntax. Honestly I'm not even sure what the things you typed as examples of adding to a GUI actually is, although I'd imagine it's code additions of some form or another to something your developers have created... in which case, yes, you would need to know the syntax of the language in order to interface with it under any operating system.
It sounds as if you use a very obscure style of Linux for people who do not know it, or you are skewing problems of many magnitudes into one "Linux" thing.
What job capacity was it to get into a very very very early adoption of code that wasn't even really production functional yet?
Just curious... the first idea of a distribution wasn't really developed until the end of 1992/beginning of 1993.
elite-ness is not what most are talking about, it's the attempt to "simplify" being forced on by changing things completely to a GUI that looks just like Windows. The Unix philosophy would totally wrap around the concept of creating a GUI that uses commandline utilities in the back-end as tools to perform the tasks and not monopolize everthing within the GUI.
The GUI is for the desktop, only. Linux is server based mostly with the desktop as another avenue.
Funny since I've taken that "easy route" of installation and it's worked flawlessly. I quote easy route int here since I'm a source purist "from the sourcecode up" kinda guy.
That was on Ubuntu.
By the way, libdvdcss is called a dependency. When anything that uses libdvdcss is installed, any distribution that performs it's own software handling will know about the libdvdcss dependency through the software dependency listing within each software package file.
No, YOU don't want their code.
WE do, to extend it for our purposes.
To make yourself useful, offering potential thoughts on future upgrades or additions.
It sounds to me like you purchase a support contract through Red Hat, Oracle, or SuSE.
The primary problem with your thought pattern is you assume everyone other than the people that think right in your mindset are "delusional, unwashed basement dwellers."
In short, don't expect Linux to be a free Windows replacement with some illusional support that is somehow provided to you in the Windows realm.
The thing is, you need to know about that application before it works for those 20 years.
So, essentially the right way to say that would be "there has been an application that has extended DOS/Windows boxes for over 20 years to perform a command substitution named 4DOS."
I'll bite...
Prostitution is illegal but erotic services are not. As long as sexual acts are not taking place, then it's erotic services.
It's NOT my thing, and I always raise an eyebrow when I hear about it myself. However, that doesn't make it illegal prostitution in spite of my feeling of how easy it could become that in private. It's about as vague as the (somewhat continuing) 80's fiasco with weapons being killing devices and should be banned because killing is illegal.
Of course, on that note a massage/chiropractic work/doctors visit/storage area rental could become prostitution in private, also.
what I love is when you you see the ad say "I'm looking for guys between 18-45, no older!" right after the girl describes herself as 19 and this being the first time she has ever tried the internet to find people.
Yeaaaah...
ssshh... don't say anything, they aren't good at math and the number sounds big. :P