No, slashdot is pro-apple.(1) You'll be virulently downmodded(2) if you criticize the great one (Jobs).(3)
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That comment was redundant and off-topic, not insightful.
(1)Argument By Generalization:
drawing a broad conclusion from a small number of perhaps unrepresentative cases. (The cases may be unrepresentative because of Selective Observation.) For example, "They say 1 out of every 5 people is Chinese. How is this possible ? I know hundreds of people, and none of them is Chinese." So, by generalization, there aren't any Chinese anywhere. This is connected to the Fallacy Of The General Rule.
(2)Hypothesis Contrary To Fact:
arguing from something that might have happened, but didn't.
(3)Straw Man (Fallacy Of Extension):
attacking an exaggerated or caricatured version of your opponent's position.
Now you see how ruthless the [bully] is because their attention is directed toward you. The way to deal with [bullies] is to always stay on their good side. The less attention they have on you generally the better off you are. When you associate with certain networks of people they don't like, even if you just donate a dollar, you'll be put on the radar and it's impossible to get off once you get put on it.
My, aren't you the submissive little bitch... stand up for your rights. There is more of us than there are of them, if we stick to our principles and refuse to give up, we get to keep our freedoms. If you kneel down, you'll get whipped.
But if anything it is the common citizenry, not "government FUD" that influenced him I'll wager.
And on what was based this "common citizenry"'s opinion, if not on government FUD? And being specific here: The Fear Uncertainty and Doubt about "lives being put in danger" that is being repeated by government spokespersons. That's not a meme that appeared out of thin air into the population, its source is a clear and conscious propaganda effort on the part of the government being annoyed by these leaks.
Don't confuse the effect (the sheeple groupthink) with the cause (the government FUD).
She proved otherwise by being elected mayor and governor. q.e.d.
why the hell does the media pay so much attention to her?
She also won "miss congeniality": She grabs people's attention; the media's bottom line is to sell eyeballs to advertisers.
She has to be the most hated political figure in the US for the left/left leaning middle. The dumbest thing the republicans could possibly do is run her in 2012.
If around her emotions run high, then the dumbest thing to do would be to fail to capitalize on her polarizing power. She has power, they are harnessing it.
She couldn't even handle serving out her term as governor of Alaska. How does anything think she's qualified to be President?
No one thinks she's qualified, no one. But there are millions who feel that, in truhtiness, she will be the best president that the best country in the world will have ever had in the whole history of time. You betcha.
I honestly thought it was government(s) behind the DDoS.
Well, he was motivated by "patriotism" fueled by the FUD spread by government(s)... is it them doing it if they influence people without giving direct instructions? Philosoraptor knows...
You can step on toes to a certain extent, but once you start getting in the way of business getting done, you can start counting you life down in hours.
I bolded the part that I think is super insightful.
Worldwide intelligence services have more than enough information about him to move whenever they wanted.
If this was something they were considering, having him whacked, why wouldn't they have done it before this past leak which was the largest ever?
The reason he's still living is that he hasn't exposed anything embarrassing enough to Russia, or another country that doesn't have any problem getting their hands dirty.
He's the lightning rod. Strike him down and he shall become more powerful than you could have possibly imagined: his insurance file will be decrypted (ominous and fud-like), but more importantly his colleagues will keep working with just this much more motivation.
So you would have no issues with your medical records being made public then?
If you'd been reading this site, you'd know it's frequented by a lot of people who do have a problem with the fact that our medical records are being traded and intercepted by corporations and governments.
But this would be a red herring, if not for the fact that the cables show that it is an official government doctrine to try to obtain the medical records of people.
Get it? We have a problem with this shit, but not with exposing it so that we can, as free people, do something democratically about it. Shadow governments and invisible rules aren't the world I want to leave to future generations. Stand up for your rights instead of defending the secrecy of those eroding your rights away.
Some people in USA and western Europe are eager to support wars in the name of "freedom" as long as others put the battlefield, casualties and they are out of harms way.
In the USA, western Europe, and every damn where else. The emphasis is on the "some people". There's also, everywhere, some people who are willing to stand up for peace and justice.
I'm wagering that there's more than that in there. I'm wondering, on the smaller scale, how you would feel if everything you said about your wife in private were to be dropped on her lap. That's one form of damage from these releases.
Well, if I had been murdering people to provide for her, I would personally be unhappy about being exposed, but it would be required of justice to expose me so.
The Iraq and Afghan dumps were only "a little harmful" and barely worthy of classification. These cables, on the other hand, are strategically damaging the U.S., its interests, and its allies. Wikileaks should be exposing corruption, wrongdoing, and illegality. It shouldn't take what appears to all outside observers as a vendetta against the U.S.
You're not making sense, they're exposing corruption, wrongdoing and illegality, and you complain that they're doing it to someone you'd rather think of as uncorrupted. Boohoofuckinghoo.
They do. If you read any of them, you'd realize that they put out the names of civilians who act as informants. I'm sure that doesn't put anyone at risk, nope none at all.
Does BOMBING THE SHIT OUT OF CIVILIANS put them at risk, asshole?
the bleeding hearts here in the U.S will never stand for it, so we end up screening little kids
You think someone willing to blow up a plane isn't willing to use a child to smuggle his explosives: Worry less about bleeding hearts and more about rotting brains.
The games industry is trying to get us into skinner boxes to maximize profit, rather than providing quality entertainment: IT is getting old, not just us.
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No, slashdot is pro-apple.(1) You'll be virulently downmodded(2) if you criticize the great one (Jobs).(3)
(Score:3, Insightful)
That comment was redundant and off-topic, not insightful.
(1)Argument By Generalization:
drawing a broad conclusion from a small number of perhaps unrepresentative cases. (The cases may be unrepresentative because of Selective Observation.) For example, "They say 1 out of every 5 people is Chinese. How is this possible ? I know hundreds of people, and none of them is Chinese." So, by generalization, there aren't any Chinese anywhere. This is connected to the Fallacy Of The General Rule.
(2)Hypothesis Contrary To Fact:
arguing from something that might have happened, but didn't.
(3)Straw Man (Fallacy Of Extension):
attacking an exaggerated or caricatured version of your opponent's position.
Now you see how ruthless the [bully] is because their attention is directed toward you. The way to deal with [bullies] is to always stay on their good side. The less attention they have on you generally the better off you are. When you associate with certain networks of people they don't like, even if you just donate a dollar, you'll be put on the radar and it's impossible to get off once you get put on it.
My, aren't you the submissive little bitch... stand up for your rights. There is more of us than there are of them, if we stick to our principles and refuse to give up, we get to keep our freedoms. If you kneel down, you'll get whipped.
But if anything it is the common citizenry, not "government FUD" that influenced him I'll wager.
And on what was based this "common citizenry"'s opinion, if not on government FUD? And being specific here: The Fear Uncertainty and Doubt about "lives being put in danger" that is being repeated by government spokespersons. That's not a meme that appeared out of thin air into the population, its source is a clear and conscious propaganda effort on the part of the government being annoyed by these leaks.
Don't confuse the effect (the sheeple groupthink) with the cause (the government FUD).
She is unelectable,
She proved otherwise by being elected mayor and governor. q.e.d.
why the hell does the media pay so much attention to her?
She also won "miss congeniality": She grabs people's attention; the media's bottom line is to sell eyeballs to advertisers.
She has to be the most hated political figure in the US for the left/left leaning middle. The dumbest thing the republicans could possibly do is run her in 2012.
If around her emotions run high, then the dumbest thing to do would be to fail to capitalize on her polarizing power. She has power, they are harnessing it.
It's kind of ironic how the Left goes on and on whining about how "dumb" Palin is, yet picked Joe Biden for a vice president
Joe Biden makes amusing gaffes; Sarah Palin exposes her ignorance.
One makes people chuckle, the other makes people facepalm.
Learn the difference.
She couldn't even handle serving out her term as governor of Alaska. How does anything think she's qualified to be President?
No one thinks she's qualified, no one. But there are millions who feel that, in truhtiness, she will be the best president that the best country in the world will have ever had in the whole history of time. You betcha.
If anyone is going to be alight in the whole Wikileaks debacle, its going to be the lawyers.
That's sort of an incendiary comment. You're playing with fire, here; you don't want to flame lawyers, they might get hot under the collar.
steveha
That comment is one smoking burn! I'd be smoldering if you'd said that about me.
I honestly thought it was government(s) behind the DDoS.
Well, he was motivated by "patriotism" fueled by the FUD spread by government(s)... is it them doing it if they influence people without giving direct instructions? Philosoraptor knows...
You can step on toes to a certain extent, but once you start getting in the way of business getting done, you can start counting you life down in hours.
I bolded the part that I think is super insightful.
Worldwide intelligence services have more than enough information about him to move whenever they wanted.
If this was something they were considering, having him whacked, why wouldn't they have done it before this past leak which was the largest ever?
The reason he's still living is that he hasn't exposed anything embarrassing enough to Russia, or another country that doesn't have any problem getting their hands dirty.
He's the lightning rod. Strike him down and he shall become more powerful than you could have possibly imagined: his insurance file will be decrypted (ominous and fud-like), but more importantly his colleagues will keep working with just this much more motivation.
There is no strategic value in attacking wikileaks that I can see. The damage is done.
Sending a message to the people of the world: Compromise our secrets and you'll suffer. (that's the popular course of action in Russia...)
Suspected rapist? I thought they dropped that charge?
The thing about throwing dirt is: Dirt sticks.
So you would have no issues with your medical records being made public then?
If you'd been reading this site, you'd know it's frequented by a lot of people who do have a problem with the fact that our medical records are being traded and intercepted by corporations and governments.
But this would be a red herring, if not for the fact that the cables show that it is an official government doctrine to try to obtain the medical records of people.
Get it? We have a problem with this shit, but not with exposing it so that we can, as free people, do something democratically about it. Shadow governments and invisible rules aren't the world I want to leave to future generations. Stand up for your rights instead of defending the secrecy of those eroding your rights away.
If they're stealing the stuff it's because someone is paying them to do so, go after those thieves.
every time you shower you're in danger of getting wet, and supporting socialist water works
This is about getting splashed from outside of the shower.
Some people in USA and western Europe are eager to support wars in the name of "freedom" as long as others put the battlefield, casualties and they are out of harms way.
In the USA, western Europe, and every damn where else. The emphasis is on the "some people". There's also, everywhere, some people who are willing to stand up for peace and justice.
I applaud those people.
I'm wagering that there's more than that in there. I'm wondering, on the smaller scale, how you would feel if everything you said about your wife in private were to be dropped on her lap. That's one form of damage from these releases.
Well, if I had been murdering people to provide for her, I would personally be unhappy about being exposed, but it would be required of justice to expose me so.
our government is right now sending American troops to die for absolutely no reason?
There is an inner logic, it's simple and elegant, but it's cruel and antithetic.
The Iraq and Afghan dumps were only "a little harmful" and barely worthy of classification. These cables, on the other hand, are strategically damaging the U.S., its interests, and its allies. Wikileaks should be exposing corruption, wrongdoing, and illegality. It shouldn't take what appears to all outside observers as a vendetta against the U.S.
You're not making sense, they're exposing corruption, wrongdoing and illegality, and you complain that they're doing it to someone you'd rather think of as uncorrupted. Boohoofuckinghoo.
They do. If you read any of them, you'd realize that they put out the names of civilians who act as informants. I'm sure that doesn't put anyone at risk, nope none at all.
Does BOMBING THE SHIT OUT OF CIVILIANS put them at risk, asshole?
The machines will kill 16 people a year in cancer deaths, terrorists don't get that many. We have here a cure that is worse than the disease.
I'm not saying the gate rape rituals are a good idea, just that a diaper is a good place to hide contraband.
the bleeding hearts here in the U.S will never stand for it, so we end up screening little kids
You think someone willing to blow up a plane isn't willing to use a child to smuggle his explosives: Worry less about bleeding hearts and more about rotting brains.
It's so cute that this mom ACTUALLY believes her kid(s) when they say that they "stumbled upon the porn by accident".
Rule 34: NO EXCEPTIONS!
The games industry is trying to get us into skinner boxes to maximize profit, rather than providing quality entertainment: IT is getting old, not just us.
In my experience, there's no such thing as "luck."
In my dirtbiking-without-a-helmet experience: I've been DAMN lucky. Now I'm more prudent.