People think that old stone churches were always gray and foreboding buildings, when historically they were colorful, but that context was lost through erosion of the pigments.
And people also think ancient Greco-Roman sculpture and architecture--which were painted in vivid colors--were all pure white marble, to the point of creating pure white marble sculpture and architecture in imitation of their models. Exactly! It gives people a false context of history, and we shouldn't preserve that.
i agree - but i belive this is one painting that was never ment to be put on exhibition.. True, it was a portrait, which usually are only interesting to people who know the subject. And that's also why so many people are disappointed when they see the original: It's the size of a portrait, not the size of a wall-hanging picture like how it's always shown on TV. People expect this big thing, and they get a much smaller reality, so they feel let down.
Slashdot researcher CowboyNeal has used the same 240 megapixel camera and advanced imaging techniques to reveal the history of the goatsecx picture.
I think it was this user that had posted to their journal a link to the original gallery from which goatse was taken... (turns out it was a foot what done it).
Restoration - re-releasing Star Wars on DVD, with video and audio copied from the original except visual/audio flaws and artifacts have been removed. Crapification - re-releasing Star Wars on DVD, except there's all this CG crap in the background that wasn't there before. Han shot first!:D
I don't know...they recently renovated an old, gothic-style church near where I live, and it's still gray and bleak. Exactly what I was saying: lost. The newer ones were made to look like the degraded state of the older ones, because the context of the originals was lost.
I also think that the ruins of the great pyramids of Egypt ought to be restored to their shiny white polished original state. There's no reason to let them degrade further, nor to keep them in the dilapidated state in which they were rediscovered, as if that coincidental level of degradation was somehow sacred. But considering the horrors that the government of Egypt have erected around them to facilitate the tourist trade, I wouldn't put my faith in them to do it right.
So you're in favor of colorizing black and white films? Was the original work in color? No? Then why the fuck would you think that applies?
Seriously, I say "restore to original", you parse that as "modify to look like a newer technique". No, that was done a lot to many works in the past, and it is definitely not even remotely similar to restoring the work to the original.
You need to find some way to learn logic. I don't know how you can go about doing that, but you really need to find out.
What about an old black & white film versus a new remastered & colorized film? If you restore the colorized version to its original black and white, that applies. If you modify the original to modernize it, you're comparing apples to cement mixers.
He believes he can reconstruct the painting's original skin tones.
There is something to be said about a painting's appeal over the ages AS it ages. If it's restored beyond a certain point won't we lose some historical context for the pieces and the methods used? I'm not saying I wouldn't love to see a print of what it looked like "originally" but the aging of the painting adds to the significance of the work as a whole doesn't it? If so wouldn't things like thing cheapen the priceless nature of these pieces? No, no, NO! No it doesn't. DAMN no!
Oh my god. Seriously, what you're saying is that a worn VHS is better than a remastered DVD. Worse, you're somehow thinking that we'll lose the historical context... as if restoration would eliminate the millions of pages detailing that context or the millions of reproductions of the work in its aged state.
The degradation, I'll have you know, is what causes the loss of historical context. People think that old stone churches were always gray and foreboding buildings, when historically they were colorful, but that context was lost through erosion of the pigments.
Or maybe it saves lives, has saved U.S. life at home and abroad, and they can prove it. I'm sorry to have to be the one to tell you this, but Santa Claus isn't real.
Now everybody will jump on my and say how they aren't really busting into American's houses. And they would be dead wrong. All the masked men need to legally burst into your house and shoot you dead is for someone to dump their pot seeds in your trash can.
The most confusing part about all this is that any members of Congress continue to support the president on these matters. The broad wiretapping program is part of a serious (and so far successful) campaign by Cheney and his compatriots to expand the powers of the executive branch. While Congress continues to have their efficacy whittled away by the administration, they sit back and let him do it!
Why?
Because covert, ubiquitous surveillance is a GREAT way to dig up dirt on politicians.
Okay, my bad, I guess I misunderstood. Maybe I'm misquoting?
It might not have a lot of power under the hood
Anyway, sounds like we're both happy that LOGO exists, so the world is okay. I wasn't really aware of what was under the hood because I didn't learn LOGO for long enough to find that out. Hence the 'might". I was told about its vast possibilities by others in the thread.
By denying a legitimate means of digital distribution of music from the market for so long, the music labels essentially ENCOURAGED a black market in digital music to develop. Oh, puhlease. "legitmate market to get it" These people won't pay a friggin' dime. There's no "black market" as that assumes payment. Hint: even black marketeers demand money. These people simply engage in wholesale rip-off. Which is why the iTunes store finally opened, it never sold a single song! </sarcastic_tone>
SWAT isn't going to shoot unless they have reason to AT THE SCENE. [...] The only reason SWAT members discharge their weapons is if there is an immediate danger to themselves or others (I.E. madman pointing a gun at police or shooting from a window at people below).
Two SWAT officers headed toward the car, one to arrest Culosi and one to protect the officer, Horan said. The officer involved, a 17-year veteran with long tactical experience, pulled up in a car behind the undercover officer's. "As the officer came out," Horan said, "he was bringing his weapon up. In the course of bringing his weapon up, it discharged. He has no real explanation how." The officer's name was not released. Horan said the officer shouted "Police!" at Culosi. "Right after 'Police!'" Horan said, "it went pow." Culosi was killed almost instantly. Horan said the bullet entered Culosi's left side, traveled through his body and was recovered on his right side. Horan said the officer was aware that he should not have had a finger on the trigger and that he should not have had his.45-caliber H&K handgun pointed at anyone.
The strategy Jobs uses for announcing products only when 100% done has its benefits with consumers, but developers hate when you cut them off and don't give them a clear roadmap for what to expect ahead. When devs start putting out finished software on schedule, THEN they can have an opinion on this matter. In the meantime, y'all STFU and get back to crunch time.
You don't seem to even understand what I'm saying.
Did you read the news today? Move-on admitted that this ad was legal parody. There is absolutely no legal ground for calling this ad trademark infringement. It was political speech that is at the very core of 1st amendment protection.
I don't know what court ruling you are talking about, since you apparently have no idea how to state its name, but I know there is no court dumb enough to misunderstand that political speech is not the same thing as violating trademark. Stop saying words.
Well, it makes it very easy to write a self modifying program. After all, your program is a list and LOGO is a list processor, so a program modifying itself is no big deal. To code at least. I'd like to see you do that with your whizzo BASIC tricks. Way. To miss. The point.
It might not have a lot of power under the hood...
Actually, LOGO has a lot of power under its hood, definitely more than BASIC. It seems that most people here don't realize that LOGO is a full featured dialect of LISP. Some things that are easily done in LOGO would be pretty hard in BASIC. I agree with the rest of your post, though. Good thing I said "might";-)
We were switched over to other, less awesome computer classes after that short spell with LOGO, I never got around to learning about the more advanced stuff LOGO could do. I tried finding logo later on for my personal learning needs, but no software salesman had any clue what I was talking about.
I, for one, welcome our 40-year-old turtle overlords.
My introduction to programming was BASIC, back in 1980. By the time I encountered LOGO in a high school computer science class, it was a fun toy for about an hour, but then got old. I started off on LOGO in elementary, then we had a bit of BASIC, I liked logo better : )
It might not have a lot of power under the hood, but it really is a great way to lear about programming. You have your turtle, you tell it what you want it to do, it does it. It's a very straightforward way to understand what programming is all about. Basic has a lot of "go to" stuff that you need to learn first that is very abstract. But bossing a turtle around is a very intuitive thing for a kid to understand.
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And people also think ancient Greco-Roman sculpture and architecture--which were painted in vivid colors--were all pure white marble, to the point of creating pure white marble sculpture and architecture in imitation of their models. Exactly! It gives people a false context of history, and we shouldn't preserve that.
And that's also why so many people are disappointed when they see the original: It's the size of a portrait, not the size of a wall-hanging picture like how it's always shown on TV. People expect this big thing, and they get a much smaller reality, so they feel let down.
Slashdot researcher CowboyNeal has used the same 240 megapixel camera and advanced imaging techniques to reveal the history of the goatsecx picture.
I think it was this user that had posted to their journal a link to the original gallery from which goatse was taken... (turns out it was a foot what done it).Crapification - re-releasing Star Wars on DVD, except there's all this CG crap in the background that wasn't there before. Han shot first!
The newer ones were made to look like the degraded state of the older ones, because the context of the originals was lost.
I also think that the ruins of the great pyramids of Egypt ought to be restored to their shiny white polished original state. There's no reason to let them degrade further, nor to keep them in the dilapidated state in which they were rediscovered, as if that coincidental level of degradation was somehow sacred.
But considering the horrors that the government of Egypt have erected around them to facilitate the tourist trade, I wouldn't put my faith in them to do it right.
Seriously, I say "restore to original", you parse that as "modify to look like a newer technique".
No, that was done a lot to many works in the past, and it is definitely not even remotely similar to restoring the work to the original.
You need to find some way to learn logic. I don't know how you can go about doing that, but you really need to find out.
If you modify the original to modernize it, you're comparing apples to cement mixers.
I'm not saying I wouldn't love to see a print of what it looked like "originally" but the aging of the painting adds to the significance of the work as a whole doesn't it? If so wouldn't things like thing cheapen the priceless nature of these pieces? No, no, NO! No it doesn't.
DAMN no!
Oh my god. Seriously, what you're saying is that a worn VHS is better than a remastered DVD.
Worse, you're somehow thinking that we'll lose the historical context... as if restoration would eliminate the millions of pages detailing that context or the millions of reproductions of the work in its aged state.
The degradation, I'll have you know, is what causes the loss of historical context.
People think that old stone churches were always gray and foreboding buildings, when historically they were colorful, but that context was lost through erosion of the pigments.
All the masked men need to legally burst into your house and shoot you dead is for someone to dump their pot seeds in your trash can.
The most confusing part about all this is that any members of Congress continue to support the president on these matters. The broad wiretapping program is part of a serious (and so far successful) campaign by Cheney and his compatriots to expand the powers of the executive branch. While Congress continues to have their efficacy whittled away by the administration, they sit back and let him do it!
Why?
Because covert, ubiquitous surveillance is a GREAT way to dig up dirt on politicians.It might not have a lot of power under the hood
Anyway, sounds like we're both happy that LOGO exists, so the world is okay. I wasn't really aware of what was under the hood because I didn't learn LOGO for long enough to find that out. Hence the 'might". I was told about its vast possibilities by others in the thread.
So, yeah: Yay LOGO!
</sarcastic_tone>
The officer involved, a 17-year veteran with long tactical experience, pulled up in a car behind the undercover officer's. "As the officer came out," Horan said, "he was bringing his weapon up. In the course of bringing his weapon up, it discharged. He has no real explanation how."
The officer's name was not released.
Horan said the officer shouted "Police!" at Culosi. "Right after 'Police!'" Horan said, "it went pow."
Culosi was killed almost instantly.
Horan said the bullet entered Culosi's left side, traveled through his body and was recovered on his right side. Horan said the officer was aware that he should not have had a finger on the trigger and that he should not have had his
Cheryl Noel feared criminal intruders had broken into her home and grabbed a lawfully registered gun and held it pointed at the floor, the suit states.
Artson kicked in her bedroom door with his boot and, without identifying himself or telling Noel to drop her weapon, shot her three times, including once after she already had slumped to the floor
Did you read the news today? Move-on admitted that this ad was legal parody. There is absolutely no legal ground for calling this ad trademark infringement. It was political speech that is at the very core of 1st amendment protection.
I don't know what court ruling you are talking about, since you apparently have no idea how to state its name, but I know there is no court dumb enough to misunderstand that political speech is not the same thing as violating trademark. Stop saying words.
Well, it makes it very easy to write a self modifying program. After all, your program is a list and LOGO is a list processor, so a program modifying itself is no big deal. To code at least. I'd like to see you do that with your whizzo BASIC tricks. Way. To miss. The point.
Actually, LOGO has a lot of power under its hood, definitely more than BASIC. It seems that most people here don't realize that LOGO is a full featured dialect of LISP. Some things that are easily done in LOGO would be pretty hard in BASIC. I agree with the rest of your post, though. Good thing I said "might"
We were switched over to other, less awesome computer classes after that short spell with LOGO, I never got around to learning about the more advanced stuff LOGO could do. I tried finding logo later on for my personal learning needs, but no software salesman had any clue what I was talking about.
My introduction to programming was BASIC, back in 1980. By the time I encountered LOGO in a high school computer science class, it was a fun toy for about an hour, but then got old. I started off on LOGO in elementary, then we had a bit of BASIC, I liked logo better : )
It might not have a lot of power under the hood, but it really is a great way to lear about programming. You have your turtle, you tell it what you want it to do, it does it. It's a very straightforward way to understand what programming is all about. Basic has a lot of "go to" stuff that you need to learn first that is very abstract.
But bossing a turtle around is a very intuitive thing for a kid to understand.