Oh, I still do. I filter most of the crap, sure, but there's still lost of jerks giving each other moderation reach-arounds, not to mention people moderating when it's clear they have no idea what they're doing / are pushing a petty agenda.
Geographic Information System is a meaning that predates the existence of Google by at least a decade, probably two. Your own failure to be aware of it does not make it arcane.
So, on a daily basis, more people use the Geographic Information System than Google then? Or did I say "common and mundane" and not "older"? Your own failure to know the meaning of the words I use don't make me wrong, jerk.
For the lazy people who are google-impaired, WTF is GIS?
Google Image Search. Duh! I'm not sure why they want to keep google image searches secrets to hide from terrorists though...
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Yes, I did read the replies that explained what GIS meant in this instance, but that was what I thought before I came in, scrolled down, and looked for one of the necessary and redundant explanations. For crying out loud, Slashdot! Don't use uncommon acronyms over and over without telling us what they are, or an idea of where they come from! Especially an acronym with a more common, mundane meaning! You KNOW people often can't RTFA (I won't tell you what that acronym means, but you can infer from context... unlike the one in the blurb) because of slashdottings.
AC's. Really, that's what kills slashdot. If AC posting was removed, there would be a lot less crap. Making an ID is free, easy, and doesn't require you to give out any personal information.
There are plenty of non-AC trolls.
... because making an ID is free, easy, doesn't require you to give out any personal information AND makes your posts more visible, gives you tools to manage your trolling (friend and foe lists to better stalk users, etc).
Not to mention that AC posting isn't limited to trolls. New readers just wanting to chime in, people who don't want to say something that will be linked to them (you see a lot of non-troll AC posts in threads dealing with personnal, hard issues... depression/suicide, sexual preferences, etc).
You still have all kinds of morons posting here, but you don't ever have to see them if you don't want to.
Oh, I still do. I filter most of the crap, sure, but there's still lost of jerks giving each other moderation reach-arounds, not to mention people moderating when it's clear they have no idea what they're doing / are pushing a petty agenda.
Metamoderation was a step to limit this, but it,s too flawed (occurs after the fact, without adequate context, doesn't undo crazy mods, is itself subject to abuse, etc). Not to mention the weird fiddling they do to moderations (like removing the karma bonus of funny but they still karma-burn when you get "overrated").
The moderation/karma system was a good idea... it's just poorly implemented, and doesn't evolve fast enough to adapt to the work-arounds the trolls use.
We shouldn't have done what we did. On the other hand, however, what we did isn't anything out of the norm for the internet in general.
First: "We"? I didn't do any of that.
Secondly: "Someone else did it too!" is not a valid excuse to do something you know ain't right. Except if you ever see someone jumping off a cliff... in which case I urge you to follow immediatly.
My point is that nothing is proven by the capacity for humans to believe in a fictional TV show. You may take from it whatever you wish. For you, that may reinforce your innate skepticism of religions in general. For another, it might reinforce the belief that humans are all just looking for something.
That's the same thing! They're looking for something, anything, to fill that void. And they can find it in religion or in TV. It takes TV and religion to the same level (the original poster was lamenting that we shouldn't elevate TV to that level, I said I don't think anything is elevated here).
It's no more fallacious than taking it to mean that religions are shown to be even more ridiculous because of it [...] the tendency of some to treat Star Trek like a religion.
Oh yes it is! This is proof that people can have a religious experience from something that isn't even pretending to be true. This invalidates the irrational claim that the religious experience itself proves that the subject matter is true, as has been claimed by many.
This is Slashdot. It's defending Christianity that gets you attacked by the moderators
I have the moderation hoistory to the contrary. But as one guy had in his.sig: Mention religion, good or bad, and watch the "flamebait" roll in.
anyhoo
another man might take it to mean that this desire to seek after a set of ideals or truths suggests that such a truth exists
I'm sure someone can quote the name of that specific fallacy, but in the meantime if anyone really believes that wanting something to be true is proof that it's true... man, I have a perpetual motion machine to sell him!
If you base your "SF" novel on currently accepted science only, then how can you do anything other than create a plot set in the present day? You can't know what "accepted" science will be like in the future... if you try to guess, you'll find yourself back in "standard" SF again.
Yes, FTL travel is far-fetched, but it's no less a fantasy than any other science-based predictions an author might make.
Gattaca.
Nothing as unbelievable as FTL in there, great story.
how many people out there have a positive view on life because they believe in Star Trek in the same way that other faithful do.
It's statements like these that make all geeks look bad.
I think it makes the "traditionally faithfull" look back.
The fact that people are as devout towards a recent, outrightly fictional show further bellitles the devoutness of those that obsess over older, obfuscated works of fiction. Even as both have enriched the lives of many.
Of course, anytime you say anything short of "jesus is love!!1!!111111!" when regarding religion you get persecuted through abuse of moderation points, but I don't care, they won't change my mind that way, nor stop me from speaking it. Now, mod me down, all ye "faithfull", I'm used to it by now.
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I'm glad we agree these are world issues, and must be dealt with on a global scale.
I only know of one country where these "issues" need debating though. The rest of the world pretty much goes "what? Torture? That ain't right at all" and doesn't require TV to do a mock debate on when you can become the monsters you replaced or not...
Don't understand why people are so enthousiastic about the "world coverage" by Google maps. Besides the UK, not a single road or city in the whole of Europe. As if there are no German 'autobahns':-).
Be patient, googlemaps are created by teams of hitchhickers with GPS equipment. They write down the gps coordinates on a hand-drawn map of the square mile around that point and send this information back to base in a small metal capsule attached to leg of a trained pigeon.
Countries rich in falcons and other birds of pray should expect slower googlemap implementation. That is all.
The fact that Area 51 (and a few others) are blurred out in US gov provided photos is no surprise, but lots of other people have satellites, and they can take whatever pictures they want.
They are called "commies". Trained space apes use lasers to disable those cameras.
Either that or you never get security clearance to get within a hundred miles of a launch facility or any of it's employee's or employee's family ever again (i.e. they deport you to a small, weird island resort where you're given a numbered badge to wear on your black turtleneck).
If it's a U.S. military secret, it's not on the maps, and satellites aren't allowed to take pictures of it.
This isn't tinfoilness either, they bothered to mention it in press releases about satelite imaging back in the "OMG whu if da terrists use [everything in existance]!1!!" days.
Well, it's a fictional alien time and space travel device... but it looks like a police box, so, er, I sit corrected : )
Re:They are worldwide political issues, my friend.
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All of those issues take place outside of America (ie. Iraq, Afghanistan, Cuba), and involve many non-American citizens living in many non-American countries. To call them "U.S. of A. political issues" is an act of foolery!
Well, when you say it like that. Yeah...
Then again, I don't particularly like transparent political actualities in my time-travel stories, so combine that with a bad mood and you got me coming down on you hard for asking for it;-)
In the opening sequence of the new Star Wars movie, "Episode III: Revenge of the Sith," two Jedi knights fight their way through an enemy starship to rescue a hostage. Ever since I saw the movie, I have been annoying friends with a trivia question: "Who is the enemy? What organization owns this vessel?"...when I ask my question about the new film, everyone reacts in the same way: with a sudden intake of breath and a sideways dart of the eyes, followed by lengthy cogitation.
*sigh* Maybe your friends think you're an idiot. If you had read the crawler in the beginning of the movie, you would have read:
War! The Republic is crumbling under attacks by the ruthless Sith Lord, Count Dooku. There are heroes on both sides. Evil is everywhere.
In a stunning move, the fiendish droid leader, General Grievous, has swept into the Republic capital and kidnapped Chancellor Palpatine, leader of the Galactic Senate.
As the Separatist Droid Army attempts to flee the besieged capital with their valuable hostage, two Jedi Knights lead a desperate mission to rescue the captive Chancellor....
Way to prove the man's point!
One hyperverbal friend was able to spit it out because he had read and memorized the opening crawl. [...] In sum, very little of the new film makes sense, taken as a freestanding narrative.
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But with people jumping up and down around him yelling about the things they have to sell and waving their arms franticly in front of his face?
I'd like to see how HE likes it.
Like so.
a more common, mundane meaning ...
Geographic Information System is a meaning that predates the existence of Google by at least a decade, probably two. Your own failure to be aware of it does not make it arcane.
So, on a daily basis, more people use the Geographic Information System than Google then? Or did I say "common and mundane" and not "older"?
Your own failure to know the meaning of the words I use don't make me wrong, jerk.
For the lazy people who are google-impaired, WTF is GIS?
Google Image Search. Duh!
I'm not sure why they want to keep google image searches secrets to hide from terrorists though...
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Yes, I did read the replies that explained what GIS meant in this instance, but that was what I thought before I came in, scrolled down, and looked for one of the necessary and redundant explanations.
For crying out loud, Slashdot! Don't use uncommon acronyms over and over without telling us what they are, or an idea of where they come from! Especially an acronym with a more common, mundane meaning! You KNOW people often can't RTFA (I won't tell you what that acronym means, but you can infer from context... unlike the one in the blurb) because of slashdottings.
Not to mention that AC posting isn't limited to trolls. New readers just wanting to chime in, people who don't want to say something that will be linked to them (you see a lot of non-troll AC posts in threads dealing with personnal, hard issues... depression/suicide, sexual preferences, etc).
You still have all kinds of morons posting here, but you don't ever have to see them if you don't want to.
Oh, I still do. I filter most of the crap, sure, but there's still lost of jerks giving each other moderation reach-arounds, not to mention people moderating when it's clear they have no idea what they're doing / are pushing a petty agenda.
Metamoderation was a step to limit this, but it,s too flawed (occurs after the fact, without adequate context, doesn't undo crazy mods, is itself subject to abuse, etc).
Not to mention the weird fiddling they do to moderations (like removing the karma bonus of funny but they still karma-burn when you get "overrated").
The moderation/karma system was a good idea... it's just poorly implemented, and doesn't evolve fast enough to adapt to the work-arounds the trolls use.
We shouldn't have done what we did. On the other hand, however, what we did isn't anything out of the norm for the internet in general.
First: "We"? I didn't do any of that.
Secondly: "Someone else did it too!" is not a valid excuse to do something you know ain't right.
Except if you ever see someone jumping off a cliff... in which case I urge you to follow immediatly.
a search engine for Latina women.
Well... that's just much better!
Chicagoogle... find all thing Chicago! : )
My point is that nothing is proven by the capacity for humans to believe in a fictional TV show. You may take from it whatever you wish. For you, that may reinforce your innate skepticism of religions in general. For another, it might reinforce the belief that humans are all just looking for something.
That's the same thing! They're looking for something, anything, to fill that void. And they can find it in religion or in TV. It takes TV and religion to the same level (the original poster was lamenting that we shouldn't elevate TV to that level, I said I don't think anything is elevated here).
Who knows? The Shadow knows!
P.S. That's not innate skepticism.
It's no more fallacious than taking it to mean that religions are shown to be even more ridiculous because of it
[...] the tendency of some to treat Star Trek like a religion.
Oh yes it is!
This is proof that people can have a religious experience from something that isn't even pretending to be true. This invalidates the irrational claim that the religious experience itself proves that the subject matter is true, as has been claimed by many.
I truly am surprised how little people understand about science in general, and relativity in particular.
You mispelled "especially".
scrabbling to explain how T-Rex flesh can remain organic and pliable after 68 million years underground. Now that takes faith!
No, that takes science.
This is Slashdot. It's defending Christianity that gets you attacked by the moderators
.sig: Mention religion, good or bad, and watch the "flamebait" roll in.
I have the moderation hoistory to the contrary. But as one guy had in his
anyhoo
another man might take it to mean that this desire to seek after a set of ideals or truths suggests that such a truth exists
I'm sure someone can quote the name of that specific fallacy, but in the meantime if anyone really believes that wanting something to be true is proof that it's true... man, I have a perpetual motion machine to sell him!
If you base your "SF" novel on currently accepted science only, then how can you do anything other than create a plot set in the present day? You can't know what "accepted" science will be like in the future... if you try to guess, you'll find yourself back in "standard" SF again.
Yes, FTL travel is far-fetched, but it's no less a fantasy than any other science-based predictions an author might make.
Gattaca.
Nothing as unbelievable as FTL in there, great story.
I think it makes the "traditionally faithfull" look back.
The fact that people are as devout towards a recent, outrightly fictional show further bellitles the devoutness of those that obsess over older, obfuscated works of fiction. Even as both have enriched the lives of many.
Of course, anytime you say anything short of "jesus is love!!1!!111111!" when regarding religion you get persecuted through abuse of moderation points, but I don't care, they won't change my mind that way, nor stop me from speaking it.
Now, mod me down, all ye "faithfull", I'm used to it by now.
I'm glad we agree these are world issues, and must be dealt with on a global scale.
I only know of one country where these "issues" need debating though.
The rest of the world pretty much goes "what? Torture? That ain't right at all" and doesn't require TV to do a mock debate on when you can become the monsters you replaced or not...
Don't understand why people are so enthousiastic about the "world coverage" by Google maps. Besides the UK, not a single road or city in the whole of Europe. As if there are no German 'autobahns' :-).
Be patient, googlemaps are created by teams of hitchhickers with GPS equipment.
They write down the gps coordinates on a hand-drawn map of the square mile around that point and send this information back to base in a small metal capsule attached to leg of a trained pigeon.
Countries rich in falcons and other birds of pray should expect slower googlemap implementation. That is all.
The fact that Area 51 (and a few others) are blurred out in US gov provided photos is no surprise, but lots of other people have satellites, and they can take whatever pictures they want.
They are called "commies".
Trained space apes use lasers to disable those cameras.
Either that or you never get security clearance to get within a hundred miles of a launch facility or any of it's employee's or employee's family ever again (i.e. they deport you to a small, weird island resort where you're given a numbered badge to wear on your black turtleneck).
For national security reasons, off course.
I still can't find area 51! dang.
If it's a U.S. military secret, it's not on the maps, and satellites aren't allowed to take pictures of it.
This isn't tinfoilness either, they bothered to mention it in press releases about satelite imaging back in the "OMG whu if da terrists use [everything in existance]!1!!" days.
Why?
Because it's about controlling you. Knowing more about you so they can better manipulate you.
That's why.
Box nubs! Its a Police Box, not a booth.
Well, it's a fictional alien time and space travel device... but it looks like a police box, so, er, I sit corrected : )
All of those issues take place outside of America (ie. Iraq, Afghanistan, Cuba), and involve many non-American citizens living in many non-American countries. To call them "U.S. of A. political issues" is an act of foolery!
;-)
Well, when you say it like that. Yeah...
Then again, I don't particularly like transparent political actualities in my time-travel stories, so combine that with a bad mood and you got me coming down on you hard for asking for it
Maybe your friends think you're an idiot.
If you had read the crawler in the beginning of the movie, you would have read:
Way to prove the man's point!
A nerd's nerd?
;-)
nerd^2?
meta-nerd?
Dork I guess.
All the stigma of a nerd, none of the cred