Please, they did us a favor by censoring dragonball [...] episodes full of crap [...] if they only censored the 2-hour grunting and looking at the enemy, and the recycled scenes, the recycled plots and...
If they hadn't cut out all those jokes, they wouldn't have had to use all that filler. Q.E.D.
the animes Cartoon Network shows on Adult Swim (such as Trigun) and which I believe they'll be showing NGE on are not censored at all or if censored, only very little because I can't really tell the difference.
I wouldn't know, I don't get Cartoon Network...
dubbed and most american voice acting is not up to par if you get my drift.
... and that's part of the reason (I watched it on DVD, in jap with subtitles).:)
Huh? Okay, I'm trolling here [...] did you even read what you just said? [...] calling that plot "entertainment" would be a stretch. [...] something with an obviously stupid plot is [...] very popular in this hive mind.
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I can only assume this is a person modding up his own posts with different IDs.
I suppose most of Hayao Miyazaki's works are for young girls, as most (if not all, can't remember clearly, not enough caffiene) of his main characters are young girls.
Is that what you're trying to say?
Yes.
Now, give me a five page dissertation on why you think that naming the target group implies that only that group can watch it.
I happen to have watched Evangelion about six years ago, when I was 13, and I did not get the great deal of what it was trying to convey at all.
The older I get, the more sense things make.
They're 15, you were too young.
And once again: Other, more mature or brighter 13 year olds might have liked it, it's not an exclusivity concept. I saw it older than 15, I loved it, obviously, even though I was fully aware (sing it with me now: "Shounen yo! Shinwa ni nare!") of being older than their target audience.
Not to mention that it's a confusing show, it's normal to "get" more of it through repeated viewings.
I personally believe that there isn't a correct interpretation of Evangelion; instead the creators just took a normal giant robot anime and threw in a random mishmash of religious symbols so people would think it's profound.
How superficial.
[SPOILER?]FYI , it's the apocalypse, leading up to the rapture, as told through a japanese giant-robots(with twist)-piloted-by-teenagers show.[/SPOILER]
Also, they might have been taking a lot of acid when they wrote it. Mushrooms maybe... something that induces hallucinations and the belief that you can make whole segments of an animation show without animators;)
Evangelion and Sailor Moon are teenager shows. The hint pointing to this would be that the main characters are teens in high school.
Dragon ball is more of a younger boys show, but it was FULL of panties and old pervert jokes in the original, and they cut everything they could for the english north-american version (Canada gets the same version as the states...).
The thing is, in the land of the lawsuits and multimillion fines for half a second of a far away and partially covered nipple, censorship is a given.
But for a lot of old farts, animation = for kids. The appeal of anime is partly that japan isn't limited in their animation to kids, so they get to make quality products that aren't for kids, and those create a scandal with the please-think-of-the-children crowd who think that if it's animated, it's for kids, no ifs ands or buts.
That means it will take about a week for someone to write a crack to bypass all those annoying trailers we have to watch before we can actually watch the dvd we payed for.
I suggest breaking copyright law and aquiring a better copy.
Because they paid for it and most likely own the license for it, they get to say what they want to do with it. [...] The choice of what to do with it is in the hands of the creator, not what the masses want.
They paid to kill it. THEY didn't create it. They bought the rights to it, and are using their money against the creator to prevent him from making more.
You replied to berate someone who said "this is why copyright needs an overhaul" and you PROVED HIS POINT.
Anything that removes power from the hands of studio execs is good!
I'm tired of having the views of these jerks imposed on the public. If they'd had their way there wouldn't have been a Star Trek... in fact, they wanted them to do it without "the guy with the ears... he looks demonic, it'll scare the women".
And don't get me started on Nielsen ratings... these people have no taste, and they get to decide what I can or cannot watch? Insane!
I used a 4G iPod for a week or two before going back to my iRiver player. I can see what people like about it, but it certainly didn't fit with the way I wanted to use it. I'm not really a playlist user, for one. The fact that I used Linux was probably a bit of a factor as well. -And I liked doing the organization (directory layout) myself.
That, I can respect. Not only do you readily admit that you're not looking for the same features that most people do, but you actually tried it before making an informed choice.
As opposed to those who assume it's not good because it's popular and well marketed. The "I'm cool because I don't like things" crowd.
How many people in love with their iPods have tried other MP3 players? I'm curious because there doesn't seem to be anything particulary ground-breaking about them - they play music and have a nice clean shiny white plastic case. The premium you pay for an iPod versus another player helps to pay for the marketing that makes it cool, and that seems to be the primary difference right there.
How many people who keep saying "it can't possibly be a superior product, trendy people like it, therefore it's GOT to be 100% marketing" have actually tried it? Tried it and it's competitors? The whole "try": Getting tracks on it, using it, charging it?
I have a first gen iPod, I had an iPod before the iPod became popular (yeah, yeah, people always say shit like that, but keep in mind it means I have the BIG iPod now, without the cool dock and extra games), and I didn't want it because it was marketed in a shiny way: I wanted it because I hated my MP3 player and this one was offering me a better way to have music on the go.
Thank you for the spoiler warning, but I fear that whatever it is you say (I'm making an effort not to look... though someone replied to you and provided more info I didn't want to see without the adequate spoiler warning... ATTENTION SLASHDOT OVERLORDS we need a *spoiler* mod that I would customize to put posts at -infinity) about the last 5 minuttes of the movie cannot possibly be a *minor* spoiler.
I've NEVER heard of Firefly/Serenity outside of Slashdot. The marketing/publicity is non-existant.
It's not "non existant", it's just not launched into full blown marketing blitz yet. The movie only comes out in a few months, they don't start flooding the media with it's promotional material until a few weeks before release.
In the meantime, the word-of-mouth dealy is working, since you have heard of it here, and you're asking yourself "what's up with those fanboys?". Find a local fanboy and get him to loan you his DVDs... some stores have 'em for rent too, if you can deal with Space Cowboys, you won't regret it. If you can't deal with space cowboys, though, spare yourself the hurt.
"Out of Gas" is the best episode in the series, but only if you've watched all the ones leading up to it and so have an attachment to all the characters already. It is the worst episode to watch first. 100 posts and a +5 mod for the parent, yet I'm the first one to point this out. Does that seem right to you?
No, but neither does the fact that you're quoting the best ep of the series in a post stating that it wasn't;-) No wait, "Ariel" was the best.. NO! "War Stories"!
Er... anyway, "Out of Gas" is only excellent if you've seen enough other shows to ask yourself "I wonder how Jayne came aboard" (you may replace Jayne with any other character). It is a very bad introduction to the series though, since it's appeal is in develloping the backstory of already-familiar characters and showing how much they've changed since coming on board.
Personally, it's not the conceit I don't care for. I just don't care for westerns. I like SciFi, and watched a bunch of Firefly, but concluded it's not, as billed by some, a Sci-Fi Western. It's a Western.
It's Space Cowboys.
If you dislike either things in space, or cowboys, you WILL dislike Firefly. / If you have no irrational hatred of either, you will LOVE Firefly.
That is the magic of the show: It appeals to anyone except those who hate these two things, instsead of appealing only to people who love either or both of these two things.
I've lent my DVDs to be consummed maniacally to geeks and non geeks, men, women, teenagers, chicks who like reality shows and hip-hop, etc, and they all love it. The only filter I need is to tell them right up front that it's an excellent show about space cowboys. So if they have a problem with space, cowboys, or the combination of the two, they shouldn't bother. If not, they shouldn't miss it. I have 100% success rate in creating new fans who can't wait for the movie with that formula.
From the article, this sounds like the first time they've "risen".
The fans rose when the show was first put "on hiatus", and were mowed down by Fox's hubris.
The fans rose again when the DVDs came out: It topped off Amazon's preorders before the end of the fisrt day it was made available. I bought it in a real store, and it was a hassle: I had to go to tons of stores where it was sold out, and they all assured me that they had ordered more since I was by no means the first to ask for it.
The DVDs did well, and Joss Whedon didn't give up. Now, there's a movie coming up soon, comics coming out sooner, and by my count, this would be the Third Rise of the Browncoats.
We live in very uncertain times and the main attraction of Firefly that inspired its cult following was the comfort of a family that would weather all dangers. That comfort is gone in this movie.
And I've been a bit confused, because until the slashdot comments, I had never heard of Firefly. I'm still awful lost, but everyone seems to take it for granted, as if it were Star Trek or something. Did I miss something huge? Am I the only one who didn't know about this movie?
If only there was a series of online comics that explained the interest in a humourous way...
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Please, they did us a favor by censoring dragonball [...] episodes full of crap [...] if they only censored the 2-hour grunting and looking at the enemy, and the recycled scenes, the recycled plots and...
If they hadn't cut out all those jokes, they wouldn't have had to use all that filler. Q.E.D.
I wouldn't know, I don't get Cartoon Network...
dubbed and most american voice acting is not up to par if you get my drift.
I can only assume this is a person modding up his own posts with different IDs.
I suppose most of Hayao Miyazaki's works are for young girls, as most (if not all, can't remember clearly, not enough caffiene) of his main characters are young girls.
Is that what you're trying to say?
Yes.
Now, give me a five page dissertation on why you think that naming the target group implies that only that group can watch it.
I happen to have watched Evangelion about six years ago, when I was 13, and I did not get the great deal of what it was trying to convey at all.
The older I get, the more sense things make.
They're 15, you were too young.
And once again: Other, more mature or brighter 13 year olds might have liked it, it's not an exclusivity concept.
I saw it older than 15, I loved it, obviously, even though I was fully aware (sing it with me now: "Shounen yo! Shinwa ni nare!") of being older than their target audience.
Not to mention that it's a confusing show, it's normal to "get" more of it through repeated viewings.
I personally believe that there isn't a correct interpretation of Evangelion; instead the creators just took a normal giant robot anime and threw in a random mishmash of religious symbols so people would think it's profound.
;)
How superficial.
[SPOILER?]FYI , it's the apocalypse, leading up to the rapture, as told through a japanese giant-robots(with twist)-piloted-by-teenagers show.[/SPOILER]
Also, they might have been taking a lot of acid when they wrote it. Mushrooms maybe... something that induces hallucinations and the belief that you can make whole segments of an animation show without animators
Did you even watch the last episode of GITS: SAC they showed on Adult swim?
No.
Blood splatter and all from that sniper bullet.
Violence. That gets past censors quite easily.
Nipples, however, are an evil that must be forever hidden.
Evangelion and Sailor Moon are teenager shows. The hint pointing to this would be that the main characters are teens in high school.
Dragon ball is more of a younger boys show, but it was FULL of panties and old pervert jokes in the original, and they cut everything they could for the english north-american version (Canada gets the same version as the states...).
The thing is, in the land of the lawsuits and multimillion fines for half a second of a far away and partially covered nipple, censorship is a given.
But for a lot of old farts, animation = for kids. The appeal of anime is partly that japan isn't limited in their animation to kids, so they get to make quality products that aren't for kids, and those create a scandal with the please-think-of-the-children crowd who think that if it's animated, it's for kids, no ifs ands or buts.
In all it's gore, religious themes and sexuality?
Because I'm pretty sure it will be heavily censored and edited, like Dragon Ball and Sailor Moon were.
That means it will take about a week for someone to write a crack to bypass all those annoying trailers we have to watch before we can actually watch the dvd we payed for.
I suggest breaking copyright law and aquiring a better copy.
Or a bloody coup... ya know... whichever.
If you sell the rights to something, you no longer have the right to do things with it.
That's how it is.
Stating how things are is not a valid way to defend how things are when people say they should be different.
Because they paid for it and most likely own the license for it, they get to say what they want to do with it.
[...]
The choice of what to do with it is in the hands of the creator, not what the masses want.
They paid to kill it.
THEY didn't create it. They bought the rights to it, and are using their money against the creator to prevent him from making more.
You replied to berate someone who said "this is why copyright needs an overhaul" and you PROVED HIS POINT.
I'm tired of having the views of these jerks imposed on the public. If they'd had their way there wouldn't have been a Star Trek... in fact, they wanted them to do it without "the guy with the ears... he looks demonic, it'll scare the women".
And don't get me started on Nielsen ratings... these people have no taste, and they get to decide what I can or cannot watch? Insane!
I used a 4G iPod for a week or two before going back to my iRiver player. I can see what people like about it, but it certainly didn't fit with the way I wanted to use it. I'm not really a playlist user, for one. The fact that I used Linux was probably a bit of a factor as well. -And I liked doing the organization (directory layout) myself.
That, I can respect.
Not only do you readily admit that you're not looking for the same features that most people do, but you actually tried it before making an informed choice.
As opposed to those who assume it's not good because it's popular and well marketed. The "I'm cool because I don't like things" crowd.
How many people in love with their iPods have tried other MP3 players? I'm curious because there doesn't seem to be anything particulary ground-breaking about them - they play music and have a nice clean shiny white plastic case. The premium you pay for an iPod versus another player helps to pay for the marketing that makes it cool, and that seems to be the primary difference right there.
How many people who keep saying "it can't possibly be a superior product, trendy people like it, therefore it's GOT to be 100% marketing" have actually tried it?
Tried it and it's competitors? The whole "try": Getting tracks on it, using it, charging it?
I have a first gen iPod, I had an iPod before the iPod became popular (yeah, yeah, people always say shit like that, but keep in mind it means I have the BIG iPod now, without the cool dock and extra games), and I didn't want it because it was marketed in a shiny way: I wanted it because I hated my MP3 player and this one was offering me a better way to have music on the go.
They have the menu bar below the tablist.
It's not just below - it means that the menu bar is part of the tab and can change when you switch tabs.
Therefore eating more memory per tab.
Wuderbar.
Not to mention the bugs: Cross-tab button conflicts... it'll be a hoot!
I'm afraid I don't know any fanboys or geeks, they don't seem to exist in the real world
Go visit an engineering school, they're crawling with 'em : )
really liked it until the last 3 or 4 minutes.
Thank you for the spoiler warning, but I fear that whatever it is you say (I'm making an effort not to look... though someone replied to you and provided more info I didn't want to see without the adequate spoiler warning... ATTENTION SLASHDOT OVERLORDS we need a *spoiler* mod that I would customize to put posts at -infinity) about the last 5 minuttes of the movie cannot possibly be a *minor* spoiler.
P.S. Vador is Luke's father.
I've NEVER heard of Firefly/Serenity outside of Slashdot. The marketing/publicity is non-existant.
It's not "non existant", it's just not launched into full blown marketing blitz yet. The movie only comes out in a few months, they don't start flooding the media with it's promotional material until a few weeks before release.
In the meantime, the word-of-mouth dealy is working, since you have heard of it here, and you're asking yourself "what's up with those fanboys?". Find a local fanboy and get him to loan you his DVDs... some stores have 'em for rent too, if you can deal with Space Cowboys, you won't regret it. If you can't deal with space cowboys, though, spare yourself the hurt.
"Out of Gas" is the best episode in the series, but only if you've watched all the ones leading up to it and so have an attachment to all the characters already. It is the worst episode to watch first.
;-)
100 posts and a +5 mod for the parent, yet I'm the first one to point this out. Does that seem right to you?
No, but neither does the fact that you're quoting the best ep of the series in a post stating that it wasn't
No wait, "Ariel" was the best.. NO! "War Stories"!
Er... anyway, "Out of Gas" is only excellent if you've seen enough other shows to ask yourself "I wonder how Jayne came aboard" (you may replace Jayne with any other character). It is a very bad introduction to the series though, since it's appeal is in develloping the backstory of already-familiar characters and showing how much they've changed since coming on board.
Personally, it's not the conceit I don't care for. I just don't care for westerns. I like SciFi, and watched a bunch of Firefly, but concluded it's not, as billed by some, a Sci-Fi Western. It's a Western.
It's Space Cowboys.
If you dislike either things in space, or cowboys, you WILL dislike Firefly. / If you have no irrational hatred of either, you will LOVE Firefly.
That is the magic of the show: It appeals to anyone except those who hate these two things, instsead of appealing only to people who love either or both of these two things.
I've lent my DVDs to be consummed maniacally to geeks and non geeks, men, women, teenagers, chicks who like reality shows and hip-hop, etc, and they all love it.
The only filter I need is to tell them right up front that it's an excellent show about space cowboys. So if they have a problem with space, cowboys, or the combination of the two, they shouldn't bother. If not, they shouldn't miss it.
I have 100% success rate in creating new fans who can't wait for the movie with that formula.
the only beam with a catch-phrase...
Kirk and Scotty disaprove!
From the article, this sounds like the first time they've "risen".
The fans rose when the show was first put "on hiatus", and were mowed down by Fox's hubris.
The fans rose again when the DVDs came out: It topped off Amazon's preorders before the end of the fisrt day it was made available.
I bought it in a real store, and it was a hassle: I had to go to tons of stores where it was sold out, and they all assured me that they had ordered more since I was by no means the first to ask for it.
The DVDs did well, and Joss Whedon didn't give up. Now, there's a movie coming up soon, comics coming out sooner, and by my count, this would be the Third Rise of the Browncoats.
We live in very uncertain times and the main attraction of Firefly that inspired its cult following was the comfort of a family that would weather all dangers. That comfort is gone in this movie.
Curse their sudden but inevitable betrayal!
And I've been a bit confused, because until the slashdot comments, I had never heard of Firefly. I'm still awful lost, but everyone seems to take it for granted, as if it were Star Trek or something. Did I miss something huge? Am I the only one who didn't know about this movie?
If only there was a series of online comics that explained the interest in a humourous way...
I promise not to troll.
You already did in your subject.
And you do it again in the last sentence. Ah, trolls who keep going "no no, I'm trolling, I sweaaaar"... sigh.
Anyone care to try explaining to me what's so great about it, without sounding like you just converted to a cult 2 weeks ago?