The problems start because you've got a lot of people in "science" who are not acting in good faith, who for various reasons are heavily invested in seeing theories "proved wrong". We've seen this throughout this history of science, but not since Galileo v The Holy Roman Catholic Church have we seen such heavily funded actors who have so much at stake to see theories not only "proved wrong" but discredited to the point that nobody wants to do that research any more. Then, those same actors blame the original researchers for acting in bad faith.
There's a real poisonous element working at the edges of the scientific community these days.
Not since? There's the "cigarettes = cancer" case (which, ok, has a lot of the same vested interests involved), there's the "drugs are bad, mmmmkay", and then there's the "evolution VS invisible sky wizard" hoopla.
The force of obscurantism haven't been dormant that long, sadly.
The problem is some spirituals, such as Christians, believe . ..
Yes, those Christians, who all believe the same thing. And they're all bigots too.
Do you not know the meaning of the word "some"? Is the concept of "not all but not 0" totally alien to you? Are you really that stupid, or just trolling the GP? Seriously, cut that shit out.
Just so you the human nervous system activates on the 18th day of pregnancy. You know, about 10 days before even a very attentive woman would realise she's pregnant. At that point the nerves fire, they move the muscles, they register the impulses coming from the sensory organs. It is not just active, but it starts learning about it's environment (for example, many stick their thumbs in their mouths, even if the mouth is but a little bump in the face at this point).
What thumbs? Embryonic age: Week nr 3. 2 weeks old. 15-21 days from fertilization.
* A notochord forms in the center of the embryonic disk. (day 16 of fert.[2])
* Gastrulation commences. (day 16of fert.[2])
* A neural groove (future spinal cord) forms over the notochord with a brain bulge at one end. Neuromeres appear. (day 18 of fert.[2])
* Somites, the divisions of the future vertebra, form. (day 20 of fert.[2])
* Primitive heart tube is forming. Vasculature begins to develop in embryonic disc. (day 20 of fert.[2])
It takes a few more weeks for thumbs to appear: Embryonic age: Week nr 6. 5 weeks old. 36-42 days from fertilization.
* The embryo measures 13 mm (1/2 inch) in length.
* Lungs begin to form.
* The brain continues to develop.
* Arms and legs have lengthened with foot and hand areas distinguishable.
* The hands and feet have digits, but may still be webbed.
* The gonadal ridge begins to be perceptible.
* The lymphatic system begins to develop.
The problem is no one wants to "play god" because of the unpredictable consequences of sending a large number of arbitrarily selected people to an early grave.
"What floor, please?" is an opportunity to interact as a human being, in some small way. The disappearance of this from the world is a little, incremental darkening.
You know what? Fuck that. I'm glad I don't have to talk about what floor I'm going to every time I get in an elevator. That's one job I'm happy to have done by a machine. Not only for the efficiency, but also for not having to interact with someone with a really bad job, as that tends to make me feel bad for them, and I don't feel bad for the elevator itself.
Now, dear Luddite, go eschew the crass world of technological encroachment upon your world of human interactions! Cease this electronic communications and only converse face to face, through actual words spoken by the soft, moist tongues of fleshy humans, or at the very least write by hand and have your messages delivered by human carriers, carriers riding horses! No more shall you participate in the incremental darkening... the diminution of the real quality of life, by posting on electronic, soulless bulletin boards such as this! Be free of this mechanical tyranny upon your speech! LIVE!
Anceint Greek isn't taught in most schools either - should we lament the 'decline of 26 year olds being able to understand Ancient Greek'? Of course not.
I'm an Engineer, and my logbook must be kept for 6 years after my death for legal reasons. If all goes well, that'll be in 70+ years. It is unlikely at best that anything written on a computer will be readable in that time frame.
And according to this news, it will be unlikely what anyone will be able to decipher your handwriting by then : )
Since TFA's theorized scenario requires an ICBM at a minimum for delivery, how do you suppose a terrorist group will ever develop the economy or infrastructure of its own to build such a thing? Even if they could afford it, I doubt that an ICBM could go missing without someone noticing. Further, an incoming ICBM would be noticed and tracked in the moments before it triggered, so we would still at least know its point of origin. If the origin was a sub, well, again, what terrorist group has that kind of infrastructure? If it was launched from the ground, we'd know exactly where to strike when the shock and awe was over.
TFA, and the fucking summary, talk of launching a scud from a boat.
But you managed to totally talk about intercontinental missiles for a whole paragraph! You must be the star of your special needs class.
They're also harassing people, for example, (this is amazing) opposing artificial insemination and actually affecting our lawmakers. What happened to "We're pro-life" thing?
Still, overall, an intelligent designer is not really such a funny claim. It's just the timespan that creationists try to give us that's funny.
If you like a laugh, check out the Raelians, a UFO creationist cult who's all for artificial insemination (and, basically, all kinds of inseminations... nudge nudge, wink wink)... their leader has a race car; Take THAT, popemobile!
Instead of angering me, it fascinates me that some people actually try to find evidence that we exist for, what, 6000 years? Creationists are funny people.
It's not the rare and intermittent attempts at finding evidence for their beliefs that angers us, it's the constant and unrelenting attempts at stopping others from learning of the evidence against their beliefs that we find objectionable.
The scenario suggested is stupid and unrealistic: if you're gonna hit a nation with an EMP nuke, exactly what are ya gonna do when the effect wears off, hmmmm? You'd better be equipped to INVADE on the heels of that EMP blast, otherwise you'll still be toast soon enough.
Are you listening, Lichtenstein?
Yeah, someone is about as likely to do that as they would be to use fuel-filled planes to destroy the biggest buildings in New York and THEN have no follow-through.
This isn't a case of "liberty"; this is a case of an elected official subject to term limits who was trying to subvert the constitution so he could extend his term, and although not proven, given his close friendship with Chavez, then declare himself "President for Life". I'm sure the originators of the document didn't include the provision that trying to change term limits for the President was treason on a whim.
Far better, I agree, that Honduras amend their constitution to include an impeachment process. But seriously, isn't "high crimes and misdemeanours" pretty wide in itself?
He was making a referendum about the possibility of changing the constitution, you jump tp "president for life". Then you suggest that the people who illegally removed him from power should amend the constitution to legitimize what they have done.
Wow.
You'll have to explain to me how their amendment wouldn't be treason.
In this case, the fundamental reality is, of course, that each photon splits up at the grating and its wave function takes all paths- interfering with itself everywhere in space. When the photon is discovered hitting a screen, it will strike in a place that reveals the least amount of information about the path it actually took
Or the light wave propagates through the aether and this transversal force is simply bernoulli's principle.
P.S. Michaelson&Morley didn't give a negative result, they found a result inconsistent with a FIXED aether, but fully consistent with a fluidic aether.
What Google s chief executive, Eric Schmidt, has to fear more than anything else is that heâ(TM)ll awake one day to learn that the Google search engine suddenly doesn t work on any Windows computers: something happened overnight and what worked yesterday doesnâ(TM)t work today. It would have to be an act of deliberate sabotage on Microsoft s part and blatantly illegal, but that doesnâ(TM)t mean it couldn t happen. Microsoft would claim ignorance and innocence and take days, weeks or months to reverse the effect, during which time Google would have lost billions.
Does he _really_ think Microsoft would do that?
Bork bork bork, Opera bork, bork bork bork borkbork.
Anyone who thinks they can change the weather is either absorbed in hubris or insane.
According to Wang Guanghe, director of the Weather Modification Department under the Chinese Academy of Meteorological Sciences, each of China's more than 30 provinces and province-level municipalities today boast a weather-modification base, employing more than 32,000 people, 7,100 anti-aircraft guns, 4,991 special rocket launchers and 30-odd aircraft across the country.
"Ours is the largest artificial weather program in the world in terms of equipment, size and budget," Wang said, adding that the annual nationwide budget for weather modification is between US$60 million and $90 million.
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The amount spent by Environmental groups on this issue dwarfs that spent by fossil fuel lobbyists.
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This is all true of course.
The problems start because you've got a lot of people in "science" who are not acting in good faith, who for various reasons are heavily invested in seeing theories "proved wrong". We've seen this throughout this history of science, but not since Galileo v The Holy Roman Catholic Church have we seen such heavily funded actors who have so much at stake to see theories not only "proved wrong" but discredited to the point that nobody wants to do that research any more. Then, those same actors blame the original researchers for acting in bad faith.
There's a real poisonous element working at the edges of the scientific community these days.
Not since? There's the "cigarettes = cancer" case (which, ok, has a lot of the same vested interests involved), there's the "drugs are bad, mmmmkay", and then there's the "evolution VS invisible sky wizard" hoopla.
The force of obscurantism haven't been dormant that long, sadly.
We'll start seeing epigraphy as a worthwile career choice, woot!
Bonus points for making me google a word :)
Yes, those Christians, who all believe the same thing. And they're all bigots too.
Do you not know the meaning of the word "some"? Is the concept of "not all but not 0" totally alien to you? Are you really that stupid, or just trolling the GP? Seriously, cut that shit out.
I really don't understand how this experiment could be seen as controversial, as the cloning effort was
If CLONE
then CONTROVERSIAL = TRUE;
Why again does being a 'human being' make something special?
Because only human beings will attempt to answer that question ;-)
Just so you the human nervous system activates on the 18th day of pregnancy. You know, about 10 days before even a very attentive woman would realise she's pregnant. At that point the nerves fire, they move the muscles, they register the impulses coming from the sensory organs. It is not just active, but it starts learning about it's environment (for example, many stick their thumbs in their mouths, even if the mouth is but a little bump in the face at this point).
What thumbs?
Embryonic age: Week nr 3. 2 weeks old. 15-21 days from fertilization.
* A notochord forms in the center of the embryonic disk. (day 16 of fert.[2])
* Gastrulation commences. (day 16of fert.[2])
* A neural groove (future spinal cord) forms over the notochord with a brain bulge at one end. Neuromeres appear. (day 18 of fert.[2])
* Somites, the divisions of the future vertebra, form. (day 20 of fert.[2])
* Primitive heart tube is forming. Vasculature begins to develop in embryonic disc. (day 20 of fert.[2])
It takes a few more weeks for thumbs to appear:
Embryonic age: Week nr 6. 5 weeks old. 36-42 days from fertilization.
* The embryo measures 13 mm (1/2 inch) in length.
* Lungs begin to form.
* The brain continues to develop.
* Arms and legs have lengthened with foot and hand areas distinguishable.
* The hands and feet have digits, but may still be webbed.
* The gonadal ridge begins to be perceptible.
* The lymphatic system begins to develop.
The problem is no one wants to "play god" because of the unpredictable consequences of sending a large number of arbitrarily selected people to an early grave.
Bullshit, people start wars all the time.
"What floor, please?" is an opportunity to interact as a human being, in some small way. The disappearance of this from the world is a little, incremental darkening.
You know what? Fuck that. I'm glad I don't have to talk about what floor I'm going to every time I get in an elevator. That's one job I'm happy to have done by a machine. Not only for the efficiency, but also for not having to interact with someone with a really bad job, as that tends to make me feel bad for them, and I don't feel bad for the elevator itself.
Now, dear Luddite, go eschew the crass world of technological encroachment upon your world of human interactions! Cease this electronic communications and only converse face to face, through actual words spoken by the soft, moist tongues of fleshy humans, or at the very least write by hand and have your messages delivered by human carriers, carriers riding horses! No more shall you participate in the incremental darkening... the diminution of the real quality of life, by posting on electronic, soulless bulletin boards such as this! Be free of this mechanical tyranny upon your speech! LIVE!
Anceint Greek isn't taught in most schools either - should we lament the 'decline of 26 year olds being able to understand Ancient Greek'? Of course not.
I wish I could read ancient greek :(
Also I am exactly 26 years old.
Happy birthday!
I keep my weekly logbook in cursive writing.
I'm an Engineer, and my logbook must be kept for 6 years after my death for legal reasons. If all goes well, that'll be in 70+ years. It is unlikely at best that anything written on a computer will be readable in that time frame.
And according to this news, it will be unlikely what anyone will be able to decipher your handwriting by then : )
Since TFA's theorized scenario requires an ICBM at a minimum for delivery, how do you suppose a terrorist group will ever develop the economy or infrastructure of its own to build such a thing? Even if they could afford it, I doubt that an ICBM could go missing without someone noticing. Further, an incoming ICBM would be noticed and tracked in the moments before it triggered, so we would still at least know its point of origin. If the origin was a sub, well, again, what terrorist group has that kind of infrastructure? If it was launched from the ground, we'd know exactly where to strike when the shock and awe was over.
TFA, and the fucking summary, talk of launching a scud from a boat.
But you managed to totally talk about intercontinental missiles for a whole paragraph! You must be the star of your special needs class.
They're also harassing people, for example, (this is amazing) opposing artificial insemination and actually affecting our lawmakers. What happened to "We're pro-life" thing?
Still, overall, an intelligent designer is not really such a funny claim. It's just the timespan that creationists try to give us that's funny.
If you like a laugh, check out the Raelians, a UFO creationist cult who's all for artificial insemination (and, basically, all kinds of inseminations... nudge nudge, wink wink)... their leader has a race car; Take THAT, popemobile!
Instead of angering me, it fascinates me that some people actually try to find evidence that we exist for, what, 6000 years? Creationists are funny people.
It's not the rare and intermittent attempts at finding evidence for their beliefs that angers us, it's the constant and unrelenting attempts at stopping others from learning of the evidence against their beliefs that we find objectionable.
Also the bullshit. So. Much. Bullshit.
The scenario suggested is stupid and unrealistic: if you're gonna hit a nation with an EMP nuke, exactly what are ya gonna do when the effect wears off, hmmmm? You'd better be equipped to INVADE on the heels of that EMP blast, otherwise you'll still be toast soon enough.
Are you listening, Lichtenstein?
Yeah, someone is about as likely to do that as they would be to use fuel-filled planes to destroy the biggest buildings in New York and THEN have no follow-through.
This isn't a case of "liberty"; this is a case of an elected official subject to term limits who was trying to subvert the constitution so he could extend his term, and although not proven, given his close friendship with Chavez, then declare himself "President for Life". I'm sure the originators of the document didn't include the provision that trying to change term limits for the President was treason on a whim.
Far better, I agree, that Honduras amend their constitution to include an impeachment process. But seriously, isn't "high crimes and misdemeanours" pretty wide in itself?
He was making a referendum about the possibility of changing the constitution, you jump tp "president for life".
Then you suggest that the people who illegally removed him from power should amend the constitution to legitimize what they have done.
Wow.
You'll have to explain to me how their amendment wouldn't be treason.
Apparently, they had caused problems before and were told to get a license before having the next party.
They acknowledge this by saying they pointed the speakers away from the village to reduce the noise.
Mike Monett
Midland
RTFA yourself and quote the bit that you think means they had caused problems before.
I read it, it says *someone* had a noisy party, I didn't see any reason to link that with these people.
He talks about "taking down a sound system". For 17 people? Ridiculous.
Music? At a party? PREPOSTEROUS!
So does this mean we should be putting more juveniles on house arrest?
What's to say they have no one at home as bad as what you'd find in juvie? Some families are really FUBAR.
Your theory is aether right or wrong. I can't decide.
If you don't look directly at it, some people would say it's both at one ;-)
In this case, the fundamental reality is, of course, that each photon splits up at the grating and its wave function takes all paths- interfering with itself everywhere in space. When the photon is discovered hitting a screen, it will strike in a place that reveals the least amount of information about the path it actually took
Or the light wave propagates through the aether and this transversal force is simply bernoulli's principle.
P.S. Michaelson&Morley didn't give a negative result, they found a result inconsistent with a FIXED aether, but fully consistent with a fluidic aether.
Me neither.
What Google s chief executive, Eric Schmidt, has to fear more than anything else is that heâ(TM)ll awake one day to learn that the Google search engine suddenly doesn t work on any Windows computers: something happened overnight and what worked yesterday doesnâ(TM)t work today. It would have to be an act of deliberate sabotage on Microsoft s part and blatantly illegal, but that doesnâ(TM)t mean it couldn t happen. Microsoft would claim ignorance and innocence and take days, weeks or months to reverse the effect, during which time Google would have lost billions.
Does he _really_ think Microsoft would do that?
Bork bork bork, Opera bork, bork bork bork borkbork.
Swearing out loud in front of other people can carry some baggage and consequence. It's risky social behavior.
Only if you dick around fucking prudes.
Anyone who thinks they can change the weather is either absorbed in hubris or insane.
According to Wang Guanghe, director of the Weather Modification Department under the Chinese Academy of Meteorological Sciences, each of China's more than 30 provinces and province-level municipalities today boast a weather-modification base, employing more than 32,000 people, 7,100 anti-aircraft guns, 4,991 special rocket launchers and 30-odd aircraft across the country.
"Ours is the largest artificial weather program in the world in terms of equipment, size and budget," Wang said, adding that the annual nationwide budget for weather modification is between US$60 million and $90 million.