Are you saying Big Mac is proprietary? Because that's what I get from what you're saying, that it's proprietary. That their creation, the Big Mac, is their property, so the rights they exert over it are proprietary.
Since your initial argument was that Apple is not proprietary, I don't get what you are now trying to prove.
I'm not sure it was a customer list per se; "Michael's minute" says: "Also, we feel obligated to disclose to you that we were compelled to disclose your email address to Microsoft during the discovery process as well as the content of many of your messages sent to us. We were not happy about doing this, but we had little choice. We have received assurances from Microsoft that they will not use or disclose your address for any purpose beyond this case."
It's not unusual for a company's internal emails to become part of a court case like this, and it is notunsusual for people to send customer mail back and forth internally (possibly also the customer list). The court would not allow the Lindows people to "edit" these mails for content, even if the content "violates privacy policy."
Of course IANAL, and this is only as I understand how these things go, but that's what it looks like to me.
As the discovery process is administered by the court, this disclosure is covered by policy.
According to one of the linked articles, MS has agreed not to use the data outside the scope of the court case. I would love to be on that list if MS is going to abuse it, California has anti-spam laws. Enforcement has been uneven and rewards of suing have not been great. However, MS has deep pockets and a past record of criminality...I'm too old for early retirement, but "on-time" retirement might be nice!
What are you smoking? I was making a point that the story would probably not be regarded as "funny" if he had insulted a guy. That makes me sexist exactly how? I don't think his story is funny any way you look at it.
In fact, downmod everything above this post, so this will come up as FP!
this shows the extent to which the news media, even legit outfits like CNN, are willing to cut'n'paste a news release.
The High Likelihood is that all MTV is doing is signing a marketing agreement that will put their logo on the thing. Same as they did with the "singing machine" (see my previous links to that horror).
In theory (as I don't have one yet), my core favorites go on the 1 gig drive, that's 10-15 hours of music. I'd also have stuff stored on some of the numerous compact flash cards I already own (due to a past line of work.) Not everybody has the latter advantage, I know.
The Ipod is at least light and pocket-sized, this thing seems way too bulky for my pro-active lifestyle.
Obviously, the poster's use of the phrase was meant to refer to the denial of the user's rights, not the copyright holder's.
You, AC sir, seem convinced that citizens do not have any rights in this matter, and all rights accrue to the holder of copyright. In this you are opposed to established case law, as well as to the intentions of the framers of the Constitution. ("To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries...")
Here. Go read up. Please don't post on copyright matters until you do.
amuses me everytime my neighbour says there are far more programs...
I have firewire and USB on my pc, and guess what? A) It cost me a great deal less than your Mac.
B) There are still far more programs available for my PC than for your Mac.
How often do you plan to wipe all 20 gigs? I can't see doing this very often.
For my taste, 20, or even 5, gigs is way more than I need. The MXP-100 has up to a gig, and its weight is close to that of the 64 MB players.
The real beauty is that you can buy a unit without memory ($149), pick up a cheap compact flash card and use that until the gigabyte microdrive becomes reasonable or is a "deal of the day" at buy.com.
I don't see how any other player could be the "geek's choice."
If they showed outtakes in the trailer, and the titles said, "This is the stuff that we cut out of Orange County," that would be enormously cool. They could even say "The stuff we left in is even better." Millions of moviegoers would be grateful. But including excised scenes in the trailer with no such disclaimer is uncool, dishonest, deceptive advertising, bait and switch, theft of the viewer's money, etcetera and ad nauseum. "You don't need college to rock" is the only reason I ever considered seing this movie.
Re:News for nerds? Can a STORY be modded Offtopic?
on
Review: Orange County
·
· Score: 1
I think we should stop the elitism, and allow for a wider variety of posts, ones encompassing more genres of knowledge.
I agree that/. is elitist but I believe our mileage varies.
If postings from the "great unwashed" (you and me) were permitted the range that is permitted to the "elite" (in this case Katz),/. would soon lose all focus, and no longer serve the various purposes it is now well-suited for. This is the literary equivalent of "littering." The only way to stop the elitism (in this case) is to have Katz follow the same strictures expected of any/. user.
There's a guy somewhere who frequently decries the practice of showing moderation by a/. editor as "moderated by user." The response to his complaints is invariably that "editors are users." This is pretty clearly "lip-service to egalitarianism."
/. is elitist. It needs to be elitist in order to maintain a decent signal to noise ratio (Look how pervasiv and essential the mod system is -- how can/. not be viewed as elitist?). But, due to their desire to be egalitarians, "just another user,"/.'s editors reject elitism while practicing it.
In my opinion, a lot of the kinks that remain in the system come from a natural reluctance to own up to the truism, that "/. is elitist and needs to be." Hopefully some people who can make a difference will eventually own up to this, and we can transform/. into the earthly paradise it was meant to be. Of course, that will also require strait-jacketing Katz.
I agree. I wasn't complaining about "bloat," myself, I was responding to someone else's complaint. My Win machine's primary use is for media and games. Still, that "Slim XP" release might be cool for a server on my home network, if MS does it right.
A lot of the bloat comes from the perceived desire for computers to function as "multimedia machines," and to MS's desire to integrate functions into the OS. Has there been a single word from MS about the develpment and release plans for the "slim XP" version that was mndated by the government settlement? Considering how surprisingly stable the bloated XP is, that could be an impressive little OS, if MS acts in good faith.
people need internet access to be productive members of society, but they can't afford it legally, so they get Windows any way they can.
Even accepting that Internet access is required tio be a "productive member of society" (which is doubtful), how cutting edge must your system be to allow this? Here is a p166 Compaq, warranteed for 30 days, for $40. Found it with 2 minutes of web surfing. It won't run Commander Taco's fabulous Xbox emulator, but I am sure it suits any "productive" purpose.
Every month, the US throws out enough PCs to put a small third-world nation online, most likely.
Slashdot Mirror
I've already got a cx in a closet on the East Coast. I need that G4 board! Thanks anyway.
Since your initial argument was that Apple is not proprietary, I don't get what you are now trying to prove.
Okay. Since I prefer to assemble my own PC's, where shall I buy my Mac mobo? Does Tyan make those? FIC? Asus?
I'll also need sources for case, power, HD, floppy, all those components that have exclusive-to-Mac interfaces.
I'm not sure it was a customer list per se; "Michael's minute" says:
"Also, we feel obligated to disclose to you that we were compelled to disclose your email address to Microsoft during the discovery process as well as the content of many of your messages sent to us. We were not happy about doing this, but we had little choice. We have received assurances from Microsoft that they will not use or disclose your address for any purpose beyond this case."
It's not unusual for a company's internal emails to become part of a court case like this, and it is notunsusual for people to send customer mail back and forth internally (possibly also the customer list). The court would not allow the Lindows people to "edit" these mails for content, even if the content "violates privacy policy."
Of course IANAL, and this is only as I understand how these things go, but that's what it looks like to me.
As the discovery process is administered by the court, this disclosure is covered by policy.
According to one of the linked articles, MS has agreed not to use the data outside the scope of the court case. I would love to be on that list if MS is going to abuse it, California has anti-spam laws. Enforcement has been uneven and rewards of suing have not been great. However, MS has deep pockets and a past record of criminality...I'm too old for early retirement, but "on-time" retirement might be nice!
What are you smoking? I was making a point that the story would probably not be regarded as "funny" if he had insulted a guy. That makes me sexist exactly how? I don't think his story is funny any way you look at it.
MOD PARENT UP RIGHT NOW.
In fact, downmod everything above this post, so this will come up as FP!
this shows the extent to which the news media, even legit outfits like CNN, are willing to cut'n'paste a news release.
The High Likelihood is that all MTV is doing is signing a marketing agreement that will put their logo on the thing. Same as they did with the "singing machine" (see my previous links to that horror).
If you had insulted a guy, would that make a story worth repeating? Why do you suppose cruelty toward a woman is amusing to the
Perhaps you missed my previous post. Check it out.
In theory (as I don't have one yet), my core favorites go on the 1 gig drive, that's 10-15 hours of music. I'd also have stuff stored on some of the numerous compact flash cards I already own (due to a past line of work.) Not everybody has the latter advantage, I know.
The Ipod is at least light and pocket-sized, this thing seems way too bulky for my pro-active lifestyle.
Needless to say it failed (You don't see any around anymore, do you?).
I saw one yesterday at Fry's (North Hollywood, CA). I laffed my head off at it, and posted a pic higher up in this thread (look for my Funny:5 post).
Obviously, the poster's use of the phrase was meant to refer to the denial of the user's rights, not the copyright holder's.
You, AC sir, seem convinced that citizens do not have any rights in this matter, and all rights accrue to the holder of copyright. In this you are opposed to established case law, as well as to the intentions of the framers of the Constitution. ("To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries...")
Here. Go read up. Please don't post on copyright matters until you do.
amuses me everytime my neighbour says there are far more programs...
I have firewire and USB on my pc, and guess what?
A) It cost me a great deal less than your Mac.
B) There are still far more programs available for my PC than for your Mac.
Hah! you haven't seen How Cool It Looks!
You know you want it.
3 hours 47 minutes and 33 seconds
How often do you plan to wipe all 20 gigs? I can't see doing this very often.
For my taste, 20, or even 5, gigs is way more than I need. The MXP-100 has up to a gig, and its weight is close to that of the 64 MB players.
The real beauty is that you can buy a unit without memory ($149), pick up a cheap compact flash card and use that until the gigabyte microdrive becomes reasonable or is a "deal of the day" at buy.com.
I don't see how any other player could be the "geek's choice."
If they showed outtakes in the trailer, and the titles said, "This is the stuff that we cut out of Orange County," that would be enormously cool. They could even say "The stuff we left in is even better." Millions of moviegoers would be grateful. But including excised scenes in the trailer with no such disclaimer is uncool, dishonest, deceptive advertising, bait and switch, theft of the viewer's money, etcetera and ad nauseum. "You don't need college to rock" is the only reason I ever considered seing this movie.
I think we should stop the elitism, and allow for a wider variety of posts, ones encompassing more genres of knowledge.
I agree that /. is elitist but I believe our mileage varies.
If postings from the "great unwashed" (you and me) were permitted the range that is permitted to the "elite" (in this case Katz), /. would soon lose all focus, and no longer serve the various purposes it is now well-suited for. This is the literary equivalent of "littering." The only way to stop the elitism (in this case) is to have Katz follow the same strictures expected of any /. user.
There's a guy somewhere who frequently decries the practice of showing moderation by a /. editor as "moderated by user." The response to his complaints is invariably that "editors are users." This is pretty clearly "lip-service to egalitarianism."
In my opinion, a lot of the kinks that remain in the system come from a natural reluctance to own up to the truism, that "/. is elitist and needs to be." Hopefully some people who can make a difference will eventually own up to this, and we can transform /. into the earthly paradise it was meant to be. Of course, that will also require strait-jacketing Katz.
So, borrow someone's pc and zipdrive, d/l something compact like Grey Cat and install. Once you're online, d/l your chosen distro.
With a PC like this you want to run a free OS. Win 95 is outmoded, and any more recent version of windows demands a beefier system.
I agree. I wasn't complaining about "bloat," myself, I was responding to someone else's complaint. My Win machine's primary use is for media and games. Still, that "Slim XP" release might be cool for a server on my home network, if MS does it right.
A lot of the bloat comes from the perceived desire for computers to function as "multimedia machines," and to MS's desire to integrate functions into the OS. Has there been a single word from MS about the develpment and release plans for the "slim XP" version that was mndated by the government settlement? Considering how surprisingly stable the bloated XP is, that could be an impressive little OS, if MS acts in good faith.
Even accepting that Internet access is required tio be a "productive member of society" (which is doubtful), how cutting edge must your system be to allow this? Here is a p166 Compaq, warranteed for 30 days, for $40. Found it with 2 minutes of web surfing. It won't run Commander Taco's fabulous Xbox emulator, but I am sure it suits any "productive" purpose.
Every month, the US throws out enough PCs to put a small third-world nation online, most likely.
You mean somebody with a real emu would post obviously fake screenshots?
I thought only the big-time software companies did that.
It may not be 120,000 copies for 120,000 stations. Do we know how many PCs the Korean Gov maintains?
Pamela Anderson had her implants removed. so technically they aren't "fake any longer"
No, she removed the XXXL-size implants and had the XL ones reinstalled.
How dare you be so ill-informed!?!!