I agree that if some other company comes out with a product called Illustrator, that fills the same void, blah blah blah, however, I fail to see the connection here... Its called KIllustrator, not Illustrator.. Sure its close, but so what? Its not the same.
If this is too close, than maybe K-Mart should sue Bi-Mart should sue Wal-Mart should sue Sport-Mart, etc etc.
IBM should sue IB.
USC (University of Southern California) should sue USC (University of South Carolina) should sue USC (University of Southern Colorado)...
OSU (Ohio State Univ) should sue OSU (Oregon State Univ)
MS should have sued Digital Research over DR-DOS, since MS called it MS-DOS...
I wonder how many companies MS can sue over the word "money", since that term used in any financial way, is obviously dilution of their trademark;)
before I get any flames, I meant to say that some of the keys stick as well... Not that the reason for the misspelling is because the keys stick, though that happens too.... I was in a hurry, as I was typing it as I was working, and got ahead of myself and didn't bother checking as closely as I should've.
I was just saying that comparing a non-existent engine to an existing engine for the sake of "fair" is dumb...
However, to correct you...
Smaller engine with more HP/Litre does not translate to smaller lighter car... What? You think those extra camshafts,valves, chains, weigh nothing? You think those extra camshafts don't take up extra space? Then again, you are comparing a 4 banger to a v8... My point is that the Nissan VQ 3.0 24 valve V6, Honda's 3.2L DOHC V6, and Toyota's 3.0 Litre DOHC V6 all are physically bigger and weigh more than GM's Pushrod 3800-Series II which displaces 3.8 litres... It displaces more volume, but the engine itself has a smaller footprint, but that's an entirely different thread.
But anyways, my main point was we should be comparing existing things to existing things... Not existing things to vapor...
Normalize for clock speed? Why?
Thats like in the car world comparing engines by comparing HP/Litre figures... Thats the dumbest comparison I've seen in my life... People always tout the engine in the S2000 gets 140HP/Litre, while the LS1 engine gets a measly 61 HP/Litre.. Nevermind the LS1 generates 345 HP, and WAAAAY more torque than the 2.0 Litre in the S2000... Than honda enthusiasts say to normalize for engine size, and that's why they use HP/Litre... They say if the S2000 engine was 5.7 litres is would produce 798 HP... That argument is rediculous, because just because the 2.0 litre variety makes 240HP, does not mean it scales linearly and a 5.7 litre variety will produce 798 HP... But more importantly, a 5.7 Litre S2000 engine DOES NOT EXIST so talking about it is silly... Just like a 1.7ghz Athalon does not exist, so why bother comparing a high end athalon to a middle end P4??
Do us a favor, and at least compare the correct numbers.
Either say 100 Mhz bus Athalon vs 100Mhz Bus P4, or 200Mhz Athalon vs 400Mhz P4... Do not say 200Mhz Athalon vs 100Mhz P4... You are just making yourself look silly...
The original poster didn't do any research, because in every test performed, the 1.7 ghz processor did not throttle back speed when crunching. The thermal throttling happens when the CPU is about to overheat. Not in normal operation, or even heavy operation. Just when the cooling fails.
ehh? Radios are cheap if you are talking low in the RF spectrum... Try to create a clean 5 Ghz signal, and then tell me how much it cost you... It AINT cheap to produce a clean signal that is about 2.4+ Ghz. At least not yet... The silicon is getting there....
Saying "gaim" is not confusingly similar to "aim" seems a bit of a stretch. I couldn't get very far selling a cola called "Acoca Cola" or "Moca cola", hey, Mocha Cola(TM) My lawyers, my lawyers, a thousand TM's for a lawyer!
Hmm... I still don't think its confusing. If it is confusing to you, then perhaps you don't know enough about the product, in which case, it wouldn't matter, because if you don't know much about it, why is that company entitled to your business? Thats like me going out and buying a Hunda Maccord. If I didn't know the difference between a Hunda Maccord and a Honda Accord, then Honda didn't do their job, and their lost business is their own fault.
Go to LA and look at some of the stores. Look at all the misspelled varieties. Usually there are only two reasons to buy the misspelled variety... 1.) They are cheap, and you don't care.
2.) You are in it for the "hype" but didn't really know anything about the said company, and mistakenly bought this, thinking you would be cool;) In this case, said company didn't advertise very well, as you didn't know anything about them, just the fact that everybody likes them;)
when I first saw AIM in the headlines, the first thing I thought of was the toothpaste company... (are they still around?)
Maybe they should sue AOL, because if I remember correctly, AIM was not even registered as an acronym by AOL. Somebody will correct me if I'm wrong I'm sure...
Plain site only covers distances up to 400 ft. At least with relation to your property. We studied a case about planes and farmland in 101. Basically it says anything visible within 400ft above your property is "fair game"... I don't think satellites should be covered by this... But like most laws, Those that don't know are the ones that get screwed...
A few months back, a police officer pulled me over, and told me I was "accelerating" too fast onto the freeway. He eventually let me go... Probably because he knew he was full of it. I figure even if he cited me, it would be easy to fight... I mean, what else am I supposed to do on an on ramp to a freeway? He said what I was doing was considered "Racing", "exhibition of speed", and "wreckless driving", yet I was still going under the speed limit almost the entire time. All I did was change lanes and continue to accelerate. I did this because the bozo in front of me was going like 25 in a 70 zone. What am I supposed to do?
So does this mean if I decide to take the rental to the race track, I'll get nailed with this fine? I'm sure the contract didn't say anything about taking the car to a state sanctioned race track;)
Speaking of Los Angeles, you should try driving the 110 Pasadena Freeway... With those suicide on ramps, you almost have to accelerate to 90+ mph, to avoid:
a.) sideswiping traffic
b.) nailing the concrete barrier
You literally have like 100ft to merge into traffic that is moving at around 75mph. No acceleration ramp, no nothing... Basically just a 90 degree turn onto the freeway!
Precisely... In an accident, if the guy was speeding, it gets listed. But ASSOCIATIVITY does NOT equal CAUSALITY
If a drunk drives 55 in a 35, and runs a stop sign and kills somebody, is the fact that he was going 55 in a 35 the cause of the accident? Or was it the fact that he ran a stop sign? Or the fact that he was drunk?
Hmmm...
Lets see... 99.9% of all fatal accidents involve people wearing clothes, so wearing clothes must be evil!!! We should ban people from wearing clothes while driving!!
There's the other problem... "mostly" accurate... Most speedometers today aren't analog anymore. They are digital, and plugged into the PCM. Power spikes can screw the thing up, or just random hiccups. I've seen peoples speedometer go haywire for a brief second before. Especially if you have a digital readout and/or a headup type display, or just the digital readout on the on-board computer, ala BMW... I've seen my friends M3 have hiccups like this before.
Exactly. My navigation system thinks 3rd and Delia connect, when they don't. My friends 3.2TL thinks the same, so the place they got their maps from is wrong. I'd hate to trust this thing to know the speed limits too.
As for the turnpike think, using the EZPass to calculate the speed. That would never fly in california, as the law goes on and defines using two fixed points and calulating speed based on time elapsed as a speed trap, and is thus explicitely defined to be illegal. Though there are loopholes. They worded it stupidly by saying the two points having the sole purpose of being used in this rig... Thus you have many BS signs saying, "Road Paint Test Area Ahead", which translated means, "Speed Trap Ahead"....
while on average this may work.... But since non millitary GPS don't ever decode the second and third channel you only get one channel to work with. Even though they turned off the intentional errors, this one signal cannot adjust for atmospheric conditions, which is the reason for the other two channels.
So even though it may work accurately for you, it is not possible to prove it will always be the case, because realistically the GPS will never be 100% accurate as to position. On average it is garaunteed to be accurate to within 3-10 meters. You need the other two channels to garauntee within 1 inch.
Even though you may be getting 1 inch accuracy now, without the other two channels, you CANNOT garauntee that you will always get that fine grained accuracy. So like I said, even though your GPS seems to be measuring your speed accurately, once in a courtroom environment, I'm sure it'll get shot down real fast, because you can't prove at any given moment that it is accurate.
Precisely. Most of the people that get screwed are those that don't know the laws. Also, being the registered owner of a car, and being responsible to track down who was driving and is responsible for the ticket is ludicrous. That's like saying that a gun that was registered to me is used to kill someone, even though I can prove I was not the one who killed said person, and saying I'll be held responsible until I can track down who killed said person. Its not my responsibility, its law enforcement's responsiblity to find this person.
What if I was gone on business, and left my car at home, and my wife was hosting a big shindig. How the fsck am I supposed to know who was driving? Or what if it was the idiot valet that decided to joy ride and speed? How am I supposed to track down the guy? What if that guy no longer works there? What then? This story could take many many forks....
Driver's License/ID card has other information on it too. But even if your twin uses your driver's license that's one thing, that's not the issue. The photo radar doesn't have any information on you at all. It is JUST a picture. If you had a driver's license, part of the reasoning is that since you are in posession of it the more likely its you. That's why the law is even written as such that you are supposed to have it one you where you go. I've seen bicycle riders hassled for not carrying ID on them, but thats a different matter altogether:) Anyways, like I said, since photo radar only has a picture of you and the license plate of the car, thats like me taking a picture of myself inside a bar, and trying to use that to get in other bars... Not gonna fly...
Uh, actually they do... Its in the big sheet they give you when you open the account. It list all fees etc etc that apply. Same goes with businesses. Everything is supposed to be negotiated and drawn out up front.
You don't see the banks businesses, doing this to you:
You look at your bill, and see a deduction for $750.00 so you call and ask them what it is:
Their response: Oh, that is the: "I didn't have enough money to buy my girlfriend a gift, because we got in a fight yesterday, so I took the money from you fee"... Sorry I didn't tell you about that fee. Gee, maybe I should start doing that to all my clients.... Maybe I'll charge them a "Stupid Fee", and explain it to them as such.
ehh? Sorry, it doesn't necessarily work that way. There such a thing as BUSINESS LAW. Which basically stipulates and regulates what businesses can and can't do...
If I make a contract and hang it on the gas pump at my gas station, that says, by pumping gas, you hereby agree and authorize the release of all of your rights as a human being. After you awake in 45 minutes, you will have waived your right to sue and press charges.... After which, a crew of guys will come out and rape, beat, and rob you of everything you own. But alas, you read the contract right? And you started pumping gas... If you were too stupid to know better.....
Bzzzt, sorry....
Except in many jurisdictions just signing the contract may not be good enough. Because as we know, signing things under duress voids the whole thing. On top of that, if you don't know what you are signing, you can't exactly waive rights you didn't know about. Thats why click through EULA are usually not valid. That is also why many times, they have to explain each section to you, and you initial it. But like I said, this depends on your jurisdiction, and even then is probably a case to case basis... (deng, I should've taken better notes in my law class;)
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I agree that if some other company comes out with a product called Illustrator, that fills the same void, blah blah blah, however, I fail to see the connection here... Its called KIllustrator, not Illustrator.. Sure its close, but so what? Its not the same. If this is too close, than maybe K-Mart should sue Bi-Mart should sue Wal-Mart should sue Sport-Mart, etc etc. ;)
IBM should sue IB.
USC (University of Southern California) should sue USC (University of South Carolina) should sue USC (University of Southern Colorado)...
OSU (Ohio State Univ) should sue OSU (Oregon State Univ)
MS should have sued Digital Research over DR-DOS, since MS called it MS-DOS...
I wonder how many companies MS can sue over the word "money", since that term used in any financial way, is obviously dilution of their trademark
before I get any flames, I meant to say that some of the keys stick as well... Not that the reason for the misspelling is because the keys stick, though that happens too.... I was in a hurry, as I was typing it as I was working, and got ahead of myself and didn't bother checking as closely as I should've.
I'm typing this on a VAIO, which has the crappiest keyboard I've ever seen. I like my thinkpad better. Some of the keys on this keyboard stick...
I was just saying that comparing a non-existent engine to an existing engine for the sake of "fair" is dumb... However, to correct you... Smaller engine with more HP/Litre does not translate to smaller lighter car... What? You think those extra camshafts,valves, chains, weigh nothing? You think those extra camshafts don't take up extra space? Then again, you are comparing a 4 banger to a v8... My point is that the Nissan VQ 3.0 24 valve V6, Honda's 3.2L DOHC V6, and Toyota's 3.0 Litre DOHC V6 all are physically bigger and weigh more than GM's Pushrod 3800-Series II which displaces 3.8 litres... It displaces more volume, but the engine itself has a smaller footprint, but that's an entirely different thread. But anyways, my main point was we should be comparing existing things to existing things... Not existing things to vapor...
Normalize for clock speed? Why? Thats like in the car world comparing engines by comparing HP/Litre figures... Thats the dumbest comparison I've seen in my life... People always tout the engine in the S2000 gets 140HP/Litre, while the LS1 engine gets a measly 61 HP/Litre.. Nevermind the LS1 generates 345 HP, and WAAAAY more torque than the 2.0 Litre in the S2000... Than honda enthusiasts say to normalize for engine size, and that's why they use HP/Litre... They say if the S2000 engine was 5.7 litres is would produce 798 HP... That argument is rediculous, because just because the 2.0 litre variety makes 240HP, does not mean it scales linearly and a 5.7 litre variety will produce 798 HP... But more importantly, a 5.7 Litre S2000 engine DOES NOT EXIST so talking about it is silly... Just like a 1.7ghz Athalon does not exist, so why bother comparing a high end athalon to a middle end P4??
Do us a favor, and at least compare the correct numbers. Either say 100 Mhz bus Athalon vs 100Mhz Bus P4, or 200Mhz Athalon vs 400Mhz P4... Do not say 200Mhz Athalon vs 100Mhz P4... You are just making yourself look silly...
The original poster didn't do any research, because in every test performed, the 1.7 ghz processor did not throttle back speed when crunching. The thermal throttling happens when the CPU is about to overheat. Not in normal operation, or even heavy operation. Just when the cooling fails.
ehh? Radios are cheap if you are talking low in the RF spectrum... Try to create a clean 5 Ghz signal, and then tell me how much it cost you... It AINT cheap to produce a clean signal that is about 2.4+ Ghz. At least not yet... The silicon is getting there....
Saying "gaim" is not confusingly similar to "aim" seems a bit of a stretch. I couldn't get very far selling a cola called "Acoca Cola" or "Moca cola", hey, Mocha Cola(TM) My lawyers, my lawyers, a thousand TM's for a lawyer! Hmm... I still don't think its confusing. If it is confusing to you, then perhaps you don't know enough about the product, in which case, it wouldn't matter, because if you don't know much about it, why is that company entitled to your business? Thats like me going out and buying a Hunda Maccord. If I didn't know the difference between a Hunda Maccord and a Honda Accord, then Honda didn't do their job, and their lost business is their own fault. Go to LA and look at some of the stores. Look at all the misspelled varieties. Usually there are only two reasons to buy the misspelled variety... 1.) They are cheap, and you don't care. 2.) You are in it for the "hype" but didn't really know anything about the said company, and mistakenly bought this, thinking you would be cool ;) In this case, said company didn't advertise very well, as you didn't know anything about them, just the fact that everybody likes them ;)
when I first saw AIM in the headlines, the first thing I thought of was the toothpaste company... (are they still around?) Maybe they should sue AOL, because if I remember correctly, AIM was not even registered as an acronym by AOL. Somebody will correct me if I'm wrong I'm sure...
Plain site only covers distances up to 400 ft. At least with relation to your property. We studied a case about planes and farmland in 101. Basically it says anything visible within 400ft above your property is "fair game"... I don't think satellites should be covered by this... But like most laws, Those that don't know are the ones that get screwed...
A few months back, a police officer pulled me over, and told me I was "accelerating" too fast onto the freeway. He eventually let me go... Probably because he knew he was full of it. I figure even if he cited me, it would be easy to fight... I mean, what else am I supposed to do on an on ramp to a freeway? He said what I was doing was considered "Racing", "exhibition of speed", and "wreckless driving", yet I was still going under the speed limit almost the entire time. All I did was change lanes and continue to accelerate. I did this because the bozo in front of me was going like 25 in a 70 zone. What am I supposed to do?
So does this mean if I decide to take the rental to the race track, I'll get nailed with this fine? I'm sure the contract didn't say anything about taking the car to a state sanctioned race track ;)
Speaking of Los Angeles, you should try driving the 110 Pasadena Freeway... With those suicide on ramps, you almost have to accelerate to 90+ mph, to avoid: a.) sideswiping traffic b.) nailing the concrete barrier You literally have like 100ft to merge into traffic that is moving at around 75mph. No acceleration ramp, no nothing... Basically just a 90 degree turn onto the freeway!
Precisely... In an accident, if the guy was speeding, it gets listed. But ASSOCIATIVITY does NOT equal CAUSALITY If a drunk drives 55 in a 35, and runs a stop sign and kills somebody, is the fact that he was going 55 in a 35 the cause of the accident? Or was it the fact that he ran a stop sign? Or the fact that he was drunk? Hmmm... Lets see... 99.9% of all fatal accidents involve people wearing clothes, so wearing clothes must be evil!!! We should ban people from wearing clothes while driving!!
There's the other problem... "mostly" accurate... Most speedometers today aren't analog anymore. They are digital, and plugged into the PCM. Power spikes can screw the thing up, or just random hiccups. I've seen peoples speedometer go haywire for a brief second before. Especially if you have a digital readout and/or a headup type display, or just the digital readout on the on-board computer, ala BMW... I've seen my friends M3 have hiccups like this before.
Exactly. My navigation system thinks 3rd and Delia connect, when they don't. My friends 3.2TL thinks the same, so the place they got their maps from is wrong. I'd hate to trust this thing to know the speed limits too. As for the turnpike think, using the EZPass to calculate the speed. That would never fly in california, as the law goes on and defines using two fixed points and calulating speed based on time elapsed as a speed trap, and is thus explicitely defined to be illegal. Though there are loopholes. They worded it stupidly by saying the two points having the sole purpose of being used in this rig... Thus you have many BS signs saying, "Road Paint Test Area Ahead", which translated means, "Speed Trap Ahead"....
by any chance do you have a Supercharged 3800 Series-II V6?
while on average this may work.... But since non millitary GPS don't ever decode the second and third channel you only get one channel to work with. Even though they turned off the intentional errors, this one signal cannot adjust for atmospheric conditions, which is the reason for the other two channels. So even though it may work accurately for you, it is not possible to prove it will always be the case, because realistically the GPS will never be 100% accurate as to position. On average it is garaunteed to be accurate to within 3-10 meters. You need the other two channels to garauntee within 1 inch. Even though you may be getting 1 inch accuracy now, without the other two channels, you CANNOT garauntee that you will always get that fine grained accuracy. So like I said, even though your GPS seems to be measuring your speed accurately, once in a courtroom environment, I'm sure it'll get shot down real fast, because you can't prove at any given moment that it is accurate.
Precisely. Most of the people that get screwed are those that don't know the laws. Also, being the registered owner of a car, and being responsible to track down who was driving and is responsible for the ticket is ludicrous. That's like saying that a gun that was registered to me is used to kill someone, even though I can prove I was not the one who killed said person, and saying I'll be held responsible until I can track down who killed said person. Its not my responsibility, its law enforcement's responsiblity to find this person. What if I was gone on business, and left my car at home, and my wife was hosting a big shindig. How the fsck am I supposed to know who was driving? Or what if it was the idiot valet that decided to joy ride and speed? How am I supposed to track down the guy? What if that guy no longer works there? What then? This story could take many many forks....
Driver's License/ID card has other information on it too. But even if your twin uses your driver's license that's one thing, that's not the issue. The photo radar doesn't have any information on you at all. It is JUST a picture. If you had a driver's license, part of the reasoning is that since you are in posession of it the more likely its you. That's why the law is even written as such that you are supposed to have it one you where you go. I've seen bicycle riders hassled for not carrying ID on them, but thats a different matter altogether :) Anyways, like I said, since photo radar only has a picture of you and the license plate of the car, thats like me taking a picture of myself inside a bar, and trying to use that to get in other bars... Not gonna fly...
Uh, actually they do... Its in the big sheet they give you when you open the account. It list all fees etc etc that apply. Same goes with businesses. Everything is supposed to be negotiated and drawn out up front. You don't see the banks businesses, doing this to you: You look at your bill, and see a deduction for $750.00 so you call and ask them what it is: Their response: Oh, that is the: "I didn't have enough money to buy my girlfriend a gift, because we got in a fight yesterday, so I took the money from you fee"... Sorry I didn't tell you about that fee. Gee, maybe I should start doing that to all my clients.... Maybe I'll charge them a "Stupid Fee", and explain it to them as such.
ehh? Sorry, it doesn't necessarily work that way. There such a thing as BUSINESS LAW. Which basically stipulates and regulates what businesses can and can't do... If I make a contract and hang it on the gas pump at my gas station, that says, by pumping gas, you hereby agree and authorize the release of all of your rights as a human being. After you awake in 45 minutes, you will have waived your right to sue and press charges.... After which, a crew of guys will come out and rape, beat, and rob you of everything you own. But alas, you read the contract right? And you started pumping gas... If you were too stupid to know better..... Bzzzt, sorry....
Except in many jurisdictions just signing the contract may not be good enough. Because as we know, signing things under duress voids the whole thing. On top of that, if you don't know what you are signing, you can't exactly waive rights you didn't know about. Thats why click through EULA are usually not valid. That is also why many times, they have to explain each section to you, and you initial it. But like I said, this depends on your jurisdiction, and even then is probably a case to case basis... (deng, I should've taken better notes in my law class ;)