Well, from my reading, I figured he meant you couldn't even use it as a bloody print server without the GUI layer. If that's not so, great... But that's not how it sounded to me. Look, if GUI applications have a hard time creating printable output streams and need some help from the O/S, I'm all for it. But a command-line version of Windoze wouldn't be running any GUI apps, now would it? Why shouldn't the LPT1 or whatever device be available, and spoolable? I had third party print queues under Win3.1 for heaven's sake, why couldn't one be grafted into the server product?
Printing, for example, requires all the graphics subsystems because we have the "what you see is what you get" model.
Did anyone else laugh as hard as I did reading that? Can you imagine a system that cannot do printing because it can't render graphics? This goes beyond tangled. This is criminally bad design.
The thing I can't wait for is 64-bit laptops with a real advantage over their 32-bit counterparts
You won't see this with Itanium2 any time soon do you have any idea what kind of power the suck up? Unless you want to carry around a battery pack the size of a small UPS keep waiting.
Ummm, I guess it'll be time for a Camelback full of alcohol hooked up to your fuel-cell powered system. Don't stand near open flame.
I've got one of their CD/VHS players, my father-in-law has a double-deck VCR from them.
Those machines are actually fairly decent, and I think the Go Video was the first consumer-level dual-deck VCR I'd ever seen... I think they cost about 700 bucks when they came out years ago.
Every car on the market for the past few decades has come with a catalytic converter. Catalytic converters have an internal structure (either honeycombed or beads) which is coated with a catlyst, which is most often platinum. Palladium and Rhodium are apparently also used.
So you'd be replacing one use of an expensive metal with another, at least in part. Granted, the internal structure of the converter is designed to minimize the amount of catlyst used, but I'd imagine so would a fuel cell. I wonder what the relative quantities would be.
I dunno... It seems to me that what my computer lab had in college bears little relation to what I use in the workplace... Of course, that's a before/after comparison with the popularity of PCs into the business (and home) environment. The GWBASIC and MSDOS (and VAX) commands I used to navigate information systems in my school days bears little resemblance to what I do today on 3D-accelerated, highly networked machines with massive storage capacity. I wonder what the students of today will actually be doing in the workplace, when they too have gotten past the initial splash, and have a chance to reminisce about it on Slashdot/2020.
Stuff and nonsense. The portion of the elevator within the atmosphere is negligable compared to the rest of it. The studies indicate it would take a CAT5(100mbps?!?) hurricane to break the cable, and there are areas staked out that are hurricane-free.
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And when my Mom was in school, she was told categorically that travel to the moon was impossible. Fifteen years later, if she'd been interested she could have brought copies of the pictures back to the 'science' department.
This was *not* a unique and uninformed view, rather it was typical of large swathes of the scientific establishment. Don't fall into that trap. Remember, when an eminent scientist says something is possible, (s)he's almost always right. When this same person says something is impossible, (s)he's almost always wrong.
Servlets and.JSPs become the same thing behind the scenes, but they are conceptually two different things.
(The following assumes that developers are using a reasonable architecture, rather than ad-hoc throwing together of technologies)
To take an MVC view of this, servlets are primarily used for the controller portion of an application. As straight Java code written to a specific interface, they provide a natural linking point between.JSP view components and JavaBean model components. Typical use is one or a few controller servlets, which receive requests from.JSP forms and invoke logical operations in JavaBeans or Enterprise Java Beans. You want to avoid putting VERY much logic into the servlets, instead deferring processing to the business object layer.
A framework like Struts enforces this by providing you with a pre-packaged controller servlet, which you extend with a combination of classes that are servlet-like and XML to bind 'em all together.
Well, when they talk about a 9 megabyte 'Hello World', they're certainly not speaking of HelloWorld.class.
But take a pristine system with a fresh OS install, and install the minimal JRE needed to run 'HelloWorld.class' and get it's output onto the console, and then see how much disk space you've used up. I suspect it'll be pretty big. Especially if you keep the install.gz or.zip or whatever lying around!
The extension mechanism works well, they should allow it to do it's job.
There are two core problems here: One is that Sun's implementation of the JRE for Solaris is an even bigger hog than Java is naturally. The second is that the JRE in general has got too damn many built-in libraries. It's very convenient for me as a developer who uses many of the extensions anyway, but it's making the language much more intimidating to approach.
But that's the least of my concerns as a Java developer. Where I'm doing most of my work is on back-end data access systems, running on J2EE servers. Access my stuff with Java, with PHP, or with a.NET client, I really don't care...
So the speed issue for PHP vs. JSP doesn't matter to me. What I care about is how big the VM gets, and whether or not I'm going to have backward compatability when my app. servers get upgraded. Give me a PHP-based application server, and yeah, I'll be happy as a clam. But I haven't got the time or the inclination (or the skill) to go and build one myself.
Matt Groening's success as a cartoonist/animator may be the best counter we have to the old P.T. Barnum adage that no one ever lost money underestimating the intelligence of the public. From his early notoriety as the man behind the comic strip "Life in Hell" -- which he still produces weekly -- to his ongoing bastion of American satire "The Simpsons" and its skewed, sci-fi cousin "Futurama," Groening has shown that the comedy of dysfunction and disrespect can pull in a wide, devoted audience. But much has changed technologically in the 20-plus years since "Life In Hell" made its first appearance in an alternative weekly -- even in the 13 years since "The Simpsons" first revitalized and revolutionized animated television. Here, Groening offers his views on Web cartooning, digital vs. hand-drawn animation, and how technology has changed the way we view comedy.
Robert Abele: How has the Internet changed editorial cartooning?
Matt Groening: When I started "Life in Hell," I photocopied and stapled my own little issues of the comic book together and just handed it to people. I guess it was a zine, but this was before I knew of any other zines. The thing about the Internet is you have a forum for your stuff and you don't have to pay for Xeroxing and printing. You just give people your Web address and do a Web log or cartoon blog. You can read all sorts of cartoons on the Web. Sometimes they print them up as comic books. I think, why should I buy this? I can read it online. (Laughs) I think it's great. You can present yourself and live or die by your talents.
RA: Do you have favorite comics sites you go to?
MG: I love Daryl Cagle's Professional Cartoonists Index on Slate.com. He's got cartoons lined up by theme, like baby dangling. You see the same idea done by different cartoonists. Then of course Lynda Barry, I check out marlysmagazine.com. I check out The Comics Journal Web site. There's a vituperative message board that amuses me. Also what the Internet does for me is it serves as a place to go to when something pops up in my mind. I go, "What about that comic book I read when I was ten years old and haven't seen since?" I have a fond memory of the Katzenjammer Kids, for instance, and yes, there is a Web site devoted to the Katzenjammer Kids.
RA: Do you feel the Web has allowed certain non-establishment cartooning to flourish?
MG: Yeah, there's all sorts of stuff out there. What I think is great, and it hasn't quite happened yet, is that entire archives of daily comic strips that have lasted for more than 50 years could be accessed on the Net. I imagine it will happen eventually, cause I fantasize about reading every installment of the great historic comic strips. Only the tip of the iceberg has been republished in book form. I think the major syndicates should do an archive. I'd pay.
RA: What steps have you taken with your own stuff in that regard?
MG: Um... I've reserved mattgroening.com. (Laughs) It's said "This Site Is Under Construction" for three years now. I'll get around to it. I know how disappointed I am when I go to a Web site and nothing has changed, and until I'm ready to wade in on a regular basis, I'm holding back.
RA: Regarding animation, how do you feel about the hand-drawn versus computer-drawn?
MG: I think the timing is off, generally, in digital animation. Everything is too busy. Too much going on at the same time. I like the meticulous timing of classic Warner Bros. cartoons. Now it's all about constant dazzle and movement and shifting and swaying. I find that wearisome.
RA: How has computer animation changed your TV shows?
MG: "The Simpsons" is still hand-drawn, it's just inked and painted digitally rather than paint slathered on cells. But actual pencil drawings are scanned into the computer. With traditional animation there is an amazing history where you have the mark of brilliant artists, and what we try to do, at least on "Futurama" and now on "The Simpsons," is have it look as much like traditional animation as we can.
RA: What do you feel is a big story in entertainment not being addressed right now?
MG: As somebody who's a glutton for entertainment, I'm amazed that I can listen to Indian pop music on the Internet from New Delhi radio stations. Yet there are whole regions of the world that I can't easily access [when it comes to] DVDs and television shows. I bought myself an all-region DVD player so I can watch British TV shows that aren't broadcast over here. But you can't play them here [without it]. I don't know if that's a phenomenon, but I think it's overlooked.
RA: Fox is looking to put "The Simpsons" on everyone's cell phones. How do you feel about that?
MG: I think the quality is pretty shoddy. (Laughs) I hope people don't watch the show on their cell phones.
RA: How do you think technological advances have changed the way we view entertainment?
MG: I've noticed that people's ability to process information is at a much higher velocity than it used to be. In looking at comedy, contemporary comedy is so much faster paced than it was even ten years ago. Watching classic sitcoms on television, I'm amazed at how leisurely paced they are. And certainly going back to older movies, like Laurel & Hardy, they're glacial. And although I dig them, it drives the young people I've forced them on -- for instance, my children -- right up the wall. (Laughs) I think that's a diminishing return, however, in the way commercial television is heading, the relentless insistence on holding your attention with crawls across the bottom and a little bug in the corner, and faster cuts. It just makes your eyes glaze over. What ultimately catches people's eye and holds their attention is something that surprises them, and there's nothing surprising about quick cuts anymore.
One of the neat things about the Web right now is you can get into it as an entertainment medium. You can go online and play games and interact with kids. I think it's going to be a generational thing. It will take over kid culture, and people over a certain age will be completely baffled by it. My kids are very excited about online gaming, and I'm fascinated with it as a new form of storytelling. But I'm more old-fashioned and I'm more interested in the printed word, so I like going online and reading people's personal opinions about the things they come across. However, I don't want anyone to e-mail them to me. (Laughs) Let me find them on my own.
I would suggest that airliners being crashed into skyscrapers qualifies as 'special cases'. The original hard drives should have been seized, and the contents should have been gone over by a team of experienced data recovery specialists. The kind of people you call when you've just had a bad head crash and you just learned that the same broken backup tape has been sitting in the drive for three years.
I don't know when it changed, I suppose it could be anytime in the last 3+ years, but I'm SURE I remember setting up this service without any confirmation procedure back in the day.
Most likely, they know there's an issue with this, and have put in this measure to stop it from happening again... Small consolation for those who are experiencing this.
Slashdot Mirror
Well, from my reading, I figured he meant you couldn't even use it as a bloody print server without the GUI layer. If that's not so, great... But that's not how it sounded to me. Look, if GUI applications have a hard time creating printable output streams and need some help from the O/S, I'm all for it. But a command-line version of Windoze wouldn't be running any GUI apps, now would it? Why shouldn't the LPT1 or whatever device be available, and spoolable? I had third party print queues under Win3.1 for heaven's sake, why couldn't one be grafted into the server product?
He'd never make a boner like admitting this:
Printing, for example, requires all the graphics subsystems because we have the "what you see is what you get" model.
Did anyone else laugh as hard as I did reading that? Can you imagine a system that cannot do printing because it can't render graphics? This goes beyond tangled. This is criminally bad design.
The thing I can't wait for is 64-bit laptops with a real advantage over their 32-bit counterparts
You won't see this with Itanium2 any time soon do you have any idea what kind of power the suck up? Unless you want to carry around a battery pack the size of a small UPS keep waiting.
Ummm, I guess it'll be time for a Camelback full of alcohol hooked up to your fuel-cell powered system. Don't stand near open flame.
New SCO ad campaign:
Dude, you're gettin' anally raped!
And the beautiful part is that when the Winter comes, the gorillas just freeze to death.
What WOULD be the effect of 400 million simultaneous blue screens of death in your lungs?
It's not as if this were being put out by a group which, oh, say, was interested in opposing the rapid development of Nanotech...
Well, the SR-71 perhaps... Oh wait, that's even OLDER! ;-)
I've got one of their CD/VHS players, my father-in-law has a double-deck VCR from them.
Those machines are actually fairly decent, and I think the Go Video was the first consumer-level dual-deck VCR I'd ever seen... I think they cost about 700 bucks when they came out years ago.
Check out MythTV
Every car on the market for the past few decades has come with a catalytic converter. Catalytic converters have an internal structure (either honeycombed or beads) which is coated with a catlyst, which is most often platinum. Palladium and Rhodium are apparently also used.
So you'd be replacing one use of an expensive metal with another, at least in part. Granted, the internal structure of the converter is designed to minimize the amount of catlyst used, but I'd imagine so would a fuel cell. I wonder what the relative quantities would be.
I'll tell you what, my signal-to-noise ratio is WAY lower than 60%.
I dunno... It seems to me that what my computer lab had in college bears little relation to what I use in the workplace... Of course, that's a before/after comparison with the popularity of PCs into the business (and home) environment. The GWBASIC and MSDOS (and VAX) commands I used to navigate information systems in my school days bears little resemblance to what I do today on 3D-accelerated, highly networked machines with massive storage capacity. I wonder what the students of today will actually be doing in the workplace, when they too have gotten past the initial splash, and have a chance to reminisce about it on Slashdot/2020.
Short-sighted. Projects like this are what will open the way to a continuous human presence in the solar system. Rockets will *never* do that.
Stuff and nonsense. The portion of the elevator within the atmosphere is negligable compared to the rest of it. The studies indicate it would take a CAT5(100mbps?!?) hurricane to break the cable, and there are areas staked out that are hurricane-free.
And when my Mom was in school, she was told categorically that travel to the moon was impossible. Fifteen years later, if she'd been interested she could have brought copies of the pictures back to the 'science' department.
This was *not* a unique and uninformed view, rather it was typical of large swathes of the scientific establishment. Don't fall into that trap. Remember, when an eminent scientist says something is possible, (s)he's almost always right. When this same person says something is impossible, (s)he's almost always wrong.
Servlets and .JSPs become the same thing behind the scenes, but they are conceptually two different things.
.JSP view components and JavaBean model components. Typical use is one or a few controller servlets, which receive requests from .JSP forms and invoke logical operations in JavaBeans or Enterprise Java Beans. You want to avoid putting VERY much logic into the servlets, instead deferring processing to the business object layer.
(The following assumes that developers are using a reasonable architecture, rather than ad-hoc throwing together of technologies)
To take an MVC view of this, servlets are primarily used for the controller portion of an application. As straight Java code written to a specific interface, they provide a natural linking point between
A framework like Struts enforces this by providing you with a pre-packaged controller servlet, which you extend with a combination of classes that are servlet-like and XML to bind 'em all together.
Well, when they talk about a 9 megabyte 'Hello World', they're certainly not speaking of HelloWorld.class.
.gz or .zip or whatever lying around!
But take a pristine system with a fresh OS install, and install the minimal JRE needed to run 'HelloWorld.class' and get it's output onto the console, and then see how much disk space you've used up. I suspect it'll be pretty big. Especially if you keep the install
The extension mechanism works well, they should allow it to do it's job.
There are two core problems here: One is that Sun's implementation of the JRE for Solaris is an even bigger hog than Java is naturally. The second is that the JRE in general has got too damn many built-in libraries. It's very convenient for me as a developer who uses many of the extensions anyway, but it's making the language much more intimidating to approach.
But that's the least of my concerns as a Java developer. Where I'm doing most of my work is on back-end data access systems, running on J2EE servers. Access my stuff with Java, with PHP, or with a .NET client, I really don't care...
So the speed issue for PHP vs. JSP doesn't matter to me. What I care about is how big the VM gets, and whether or not I'm going to have backward compatability when my app. servers get upgraded. Give me a PHP-based application server, and yeah, I'll be happy as a clam. But I haven't got the time or the inclination (or the skill) to go and build one myself.
Doh! Groening's Guide to Digital Cartooning
... I've reserved mattgroening.com. (Laughs) It's said "This Site Is Under Construction" for three years now. I'll get around to it. I know how disappointed I am when I go to a Web site and nothing has changed, and until I'm ready to wade in on a regular basis, I'm holding back.
Robert Abele
posted: 2003-01-09
Matt Groening's success as a cartoonist/animator may be the best counter we have to the old P.T. Barnum adage that no one ever lost money underestimating the intelligence of the public. From his early notoriety as the man behind the comic strip "Life in Hell" -- which he still produces weekly -- to his ongoing bastion of American satire "The Simpsons" and its skewed, sci-fi cousin "Futurama," Groening has shown that the comedy of dysfunction and disrespect can pull in a wide, devoted audience. But much has changed technologically in the 20-plus years since "Life In Hell" made its first appearance in an alternative weekly -- even in the 13 years since "The Simpsons" first revitalized and revolutionized animated television. Here, Groening offers his views on Web cartooning, digital vs. hand-drawn animation, and how technology has changed the way we view comedy.
Robert Abele: How has the Internet changed editorial cartooning?
Matt Groening: When I started "Life in Hell," I photocopied and stapled my own little issues of the comic book together and just handed it to people. I guess it was a zine, but this was before I knew of any other zines. The thing about the Internet is you have a forum for your stuff and you don't have to pay for Xeroxing and printing. You just give people your Web address and do a Web log or cartoon blog. You can read all sorts of cartoons on the Web. Sometimes they print them up as comic books. I think, why should I buy this? I can read it online. (Laughs) I think it's great. You can present yourself and live or die by your talents.
RA: Do you have favorite comics sites you go to?
MG: I love Daryl Cagle's Professional Cartoonists Index on Slate.com. He's got cartoons lined up by theme, like baby dangling. You see the same idea done by different cartoonists. Then of course Lynda Barry, I check out marlysmagazine.com. I check out The Comics Journal Web site. There's a vituperative message board that amuses me. Also what the Internet does for me is it serves as a place to go to when something pops up in my mind. I go, "What about that comic book I read when I was ten years old and haven't seen since?" I have a fond memory of the Katzenjammer Kids, for instance, and yes, there is a Web site devoted to the Katzenjammer Kids.
RA: Do you feel the Web has allowed certain non-establishment cartooning to flourish?
MG: Yeah, there's all sorts of stuff out there. What I think is great, and it hasn't quite happened yet, is that entire archives of daily comic strips that have lasted for more than 50 years could be accessed on the Net. I imagine it will happen eventually, cause I fantasize about reading every installment of the great historic comic strips. Only the tip of the iceberg has been republished in book form. I think the major syndicates should do an archive. I'd pay.
RA: What steps have you taken with your own stuff in that regard?
MG: Um
RA: Regarding animation, how do you feel about the hand-drawn versus computer-drawn?
MG: I think the timing is off, generally, in digital animation. Everything is too busy. Too much going on at the same time. I like the meticulous timing of classic Warner Bros. cartoons. Now it's all about constant dazzle and movement and shifting and swaying. I find that wearisome.
RA: How has computer animation changed your TV shows?
MG: "The Simpsons" is still hand-drawn, it's just inked and painted digitally rather than paint slathered on cells. But actual pencil drawings are scanned into the computer. With traditional animation there is an amazing history where you have the mark of brilliant artists, and what we try to do, at least on "Futurama" and now on "The Simpsons," is have it look as much like traditional animation as we can.
RA: What do you feel is a big story in entertainment not being addressed right now?
MG: As somebody who's a glutton for entertainment, I'm amazed that I can listen to Indian pop music on the Internet from New Delhi radio stations. Yet there are whole regions of the world that I can't easily access [when it comes to] DVDs and television shows. I bought myself an all-region DVD player so I can watch British TV shows that aren't broadcast over here. But you can't play them here [without it]. I don't know if that's a phenomenon, but I think it's overlooked.
RA: Fox is looking to put "The Simpsons" on everyone's cell phones. How do you feel about that?
MG: I think the quality is pretty shoddy. (Laughs) I hope people don't watch the show on their cell phones.
RA: How do you think technological advances have changed the way we view entertainment?
MG: I've noticed that people's ability to process information is at a much higher velocity than it used to be. In looking at comedy, contemporary comedy is so much faster paced than it was even ten years ago. Watching classic sitcoms on television, I'm amazed at how leisurely paced they are. And certainly going back to older movies, like Laurel & Hardy, they're glacial. And although I dig them, it drives the young people I've forced them on -- for instance, my children -- right up the wall. (Laughs) I think that's a diminishing return, however, in the way commercial television is heading, the relentless insistence on holding your attention with crawls across the bottom and a little bug in the corner, and faster cuts. It just makes your eyes glaze over. What ultimately catches people's eye and holds their attention is something that surprises them, and there's nothing surprising about quick cuts anymore.
One of the neat things about the Web right now is you can get into it as an entertainment medium. You can go online and play games and interact with kids. I think it's going to be a generational thing. It will take over kid culture, and people over a certain age will be completely baffled by it. My kids are very excited about online gaming, and I'm fascinated with it as a new form of storytelling. But I'm more old-fashioned and I'm more interested in the printed word, so I like going online and reading people's personal opinions about the things they come across. However, I don't want anyone to e-mail them to me. (Laughs) Let me find them on my own.
I would suggest that airliners being crashed into skyscrapers qualifies as 'special cases'. The original hard drives should have been seized, and the contents should have been gone over by a team of experienced data recovery specialists. The kind of people you call when you've just had a bad head crash and you just learned that the same broken backup tape has been sitting in the drive for three years.
I don't know when it changed, I suppose it could be anytime in the last 3+ years, but I'm SURE I remember setting up this service without any confirmation procedure back in the day.
Most likely, they know there's an issue with this, and have put in this measure to stop it from happening again... Small consolation for those who are experiencing this.
It's good to see a Linux and open source-based business model succeed.
Darn post key...