Yes and we're always one law away from having the perfect progressive society, aren't we.
Diversity quotas, rather than self-determination. Approved speech, rather than free speech. Reliance on authority, rather than the right to self defense.
Your 'solution' is just another symptom of the creeping authoritarianism that is plaguing the west.
You will submit to our oppression, for the greater good!
Unlike my linux machines, I actually pray for the soul of my windows servers when I power them off, because of the time spent nurturing them with all the love I'm capable of. Toy robots, on the other hand, are incapable of even appreciating such devotion and I have no pity for them.
Removing compassion takes some powerful conditioning.
Which is why putting "suicide bombing" into a news search is so disturbing on so many levels.
That not only such processes of conditioning exist and can be replicated with great reliability, but it can extend much further to the point where even self preservation is stripped away. Just the promise of a future reward is the main ingredient.
Your perceived lack of empathy may simply be mistaken for the recognition of commonly used tactics of manipulation. "think of the children!" card gets played often, for obvious reasons, and for ulterior motives usually not involving the welfare of children.
I wouldn't want to live in a world where adults acted with pure empathy all the time.
"the road to hell is paved with good intentions", and what could be more well intended that total empathy which generates an overabundance of concern. Individuality, with personal choice and ability to take risks, and free expression would inevitably suffer as a result.
No, it's a reaction that comes from understanding, knowing its just a device which isn't even capable of emotion itself. Anger results from the insult to intelligence in such an obvious ploy to manipulate empathy. FFS we're people whose lifestyles revolve around computers and powercycling them.
I think you're both right. Omnichad's point is that the sum of policy actions make the 'national socialists' far-right. Then you're correct to argue that declaring fascism to be synonymous with far-right isn't valid either, due simply to association fallacy.
Somewhat like how the 'Democratic Party' has lawyers that argue it is actually a private organization that is not beholden or liable to any such principle. Branding is important, but not accurate or even honest.
The same Democrat, who started the day firmly rejecting Nazism as the greatest evil, ends the day admitting, he likes the Nazi ideas... I'll leave it at that...
Because while we're busy fighting amongst ourselves, we're barely paying attention to what our betters are doing in attempts to pass pro-globalist treaties such as the TPP, and laws that turn "fair use" into "fair pay".
That warm, wet feeling on your leg really isn't the Bilderberg elites pissing on you, with all the money that goes towards the NGOs and PACs that actually fuel the activist groups and astroturfing agencies that drive most of the chaos, discord and divisiveness. No, it's Russia making it rain with twitter trolls and facebook ads!
Anyway, back to your point, watch out for propaganda. Keep an open mind and understand the value of critical thinking. Remember that the goal of our common enemy is to divide us.
Couldn't care less about pussygate, when articles like this sum up the situation so perfectly.
I think the takeaway is that no one can trust anything Trump says, about anything. He's a proven liar, he has a track record going back as far as anyone has known him.
Except for when he talks about grabbing pussy. Then Trump cannot lie, and all he says becomes the absolute truth.
My takeaway is that when confirmation bias becomes so deeply rooted, it opens the door to believing any propaganda without hesitation. Those that dispense with even pretending to be fair and objective aren't to be trusted at all, either.
In a regular democracy the nearly 3 million votes difference would have made Clinton the winner...
Is there a deliberate strategy to appeal to low information types who still can't fathom that changing the rules of the game could also alter the outcome? We've been over this so many times by now.
Many Sanders supporters became disgusted with Warren when she failed to support him. After so long pretending to be a champion of campaign finance reform and getting money out of politics, when it came time to make a choice and take a stand with the only other candidate fighting for that, she chose to sit on the sidelines with her finger in the air testing the political winds for her own benefit.
Of course she may well have well known that Clinton held the reigns of the DNC and that the primary was a farce, which could have tempered her actions. Still, as far as people like myself can tell, she's just another empty suit that knows how to make the right noises to appease progressives while supporting something else entirely.
So am I, and always vote for him, but it's difficult to reconcile someone who both champions against government abuses such as mass surveillance and FISA, but also consistently votes to impede a citizen's right to possess firearms.
Not just sensible gun control measures, but absurdities such as voting against the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act, in support of allowing gun and ammo manufacturers to be sued into oblivion for the acts of criminals.
I suppose some leeway must be granted in considering the kind of company he keeps. It just goes to show that no politician is ever ideal.
Hypocrites, because noone would ever keep farmyard animals as pets.
Your definition of "husbandry" was also why "agricultural operation interference" laws were invented, to prevent people from being made aware of inhumane practices in feed lots and factory farms.
As a proud member of PETA (people eating tasty animals) I find your trolling leaves much to be desired.
Because we should be so grateful that a religious affiliated political organization like the ADL could become the supreme moral authority of all that is hateful , second only to the SPLC, and that the benevolent masters of our online public square increasingly defer to them. Such is the ADL's very nature that they could only ever be beyond reproach.
We should even check with the ADL daily for their proclamations, since guilt by association is still guilt by Facebook's standards. Vigilance should be always be required to avoid excommunication.
Don't even dare to question what they're doing, either. Fascists will not be tolerated.
Propaganda works because its subtle and delivered with a fake smile and plastic boops on Fox and Friends, your dose of morning treason.
Of course the best propaganda comes layered in truths. The more the appeal to authority, the better, thus all the unrelated indictments that Mueller can muster must be the correlations that prove causation.
Now with the obligatory repetition period for establishing the premise is over, so it becomes doctrine. All the better for accusing your political enemies as unpatriotic and traitors, as that never gets old, does it?
an email then hacked by Russia and laundered through Wikileaks
I think my favorite aspect to this is still the most Machiavellian one; which is that the greatest "threat to our democracy" that can be leveled against us is the very words of the political class that were never meant for plebeian ears.
Notice the dance?
Sorry if I stepped on your toes; I only ever learned the two-step.
I like how you completely sidestep the AC's issue of having the account banned as a result of Facebooks (or more precisely the ADL's) shifting goalposts for censorship, just in order to lay down the "free stuff" card.
No I'm suggesting that the ADL, Facebook, and their apologists dress themselves in white robes and put on a face of good natured intent, while actually conducting capricious acts that will result in 'free speech' becoming a euphemism for 'goodthink or else'.
The nytimes article linked does not support you claim in any way whatsoever, and where did you get the texts that look like quotes?
The quotes were orinally from transcripts of undercover video footage done by a conservative journalist named James O'Keefe, which were posted to youtube. O'Keefe's videos are often criticized for their editing, and have to be taken with a grain of salt, but the videos produce evidence of the provocateurs that were organized during the 2016 election to disrupt Trump rallies. This article highlights some of the quotes I referenced.
The more that "threats to our democracy" narrative is driven by the likes of those that stage primaries, the better, because then their own tactics get brought to light. Rent-a-mobs used for intimidation and suppressing free speech and the right to peacefully assemble is a greater threat than any Russian twitter account.
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Yes and we're always one law away from having the perfect progressive society, aren't we.
Diversity quotas, rather than self-determination. Approved speech, rather than free speech. Reliance on authority, rather than the right to self defense.
Your 'solution' is just another symptom of the creeping authoritarianism that is plaguing the west.
You will submit to our oppression, for the greater good!
Unlike my linux machines, I actually pray for the soul of my windows servers when I power them off, because of the time spent nurturing them with all the love I'm capable of. Toy robots, on the other hand, are incapable of even appreciating such devotion and I have no pity for them.
Removing compassion takes some powerful conditioning.
Which is why putting "suicide bombing" into a news search is so disturbing on so many levels.
That not only such processes of conditioning exist and can be replicated with great reliability, but it can extend much further to the point where even self preservation is stripped away. Just the promise of a future reward is the main ingredient.
Your perceived lack of empathy may simply be mistaken for the recognition of commonly used tactics of manipulation. "think of the children!" card gets played often, for obvious reasons, and for ulterior motives usually not involving the welfare of children.
I wouldn't want to live in a world where adults acted with pure empathy all the time.
"the road to hell is paved with good intentions", and what could be more well intended that total empathy which generates an overabundance of concern. Individuality, with personal choice and ability to take risks, and free expression would inevitably suffer as a result.
No, it's a reaction that comes from understanding, knowing its just a device which isn't even capable of emotion itself. Anger results from the insult to intelligence in such an obvious ploy to manipulate empathy. FFS we're people whose lifestyles revolve around computers and powercycling them.
[Russia] hacked DNC emails
So we're continuously told by those with an obvious conflict of interest, against a mounting pile of evidence to the contrary.
I think you're both right. Omnichad's point is that the sum of policy actions make the 'national socialists' far-right. Then you're correct to argue that declaring fascism to be synonymous with far-right isn't valid either, due simply to association fallacy.
Somewhat like how the 'Democratic Party' has lawyers that argue it is actually a private organization that is not beholden or liable to any such principle. Branding is important, but not accurate or even honest.
The same Democrat, who started the day firmly rejecting Nazism as the greatest evil, ends the day admitting, he likes the Nazi ideas... I'll leave it at that...
Which is why everyone should just understand Association fallacy. Particularly the yellow journalism media that refers to Antifa as 'anti-fascists'.
Because while we're busy fighting amongst ourselves, we're barely paying attention to what our betters are doing in attempts to pass pro-globalist treaties such as the TPP, and laws that turn "fair use" into "fair pay".
That warm, wet feeling on your leg really isn't the Bilderberg elites pissing on you, with all the money that goes towards the NGOs and PACs that actually fuel the activist groups and astroturfing agencies that drive most of the chaos, discord and divisiveness. No, it's Russia making it rain with twitter trolls and facebook ads!
Anyway, back to your point, watch out for propaganda. Keep an open mind and understand the value of critical thinking. Remember that the goal of our common enemy is to divide us.
Couldn't care less about pussygate, when articles like this sum up the situation so perfectly.
Uh huh. Because Twitter has never shadow banned in the past, and has only an unbiased criteria as to what counts as a 'troll' or a 'bot'. Someone should that to the people who have worked there.
just once I'd like one of you to instead explain precisely why
Because going into the god-cave is forbidden, and only the priests should be allowed to interpret the scriptures. That's why.
Oh did you mean the reasons?
I think the takeaway is that no one can trust anything Trump says, about anything. He's a proven liar, he has a track record going back as far as anyone has known him.
Except for when he talks about grabbing pussy. Then Trump cannot lie, and all he says becomes the absolute truth.
My takeaway is that when confirmation bias becomes so deeply rooted, it opens the door to believing any propaganda without hesitation. Those that dispense with even pretending to be fair and objective aren't to be trusted at all, either.
In a regular democracy the nearly 3 million votes difference would have made Clinton the winner...
Is there a deliberate strategy to appeal to low information types who still can't fathom that changing the rules of the game could also alter the outcome? We've been over this so many times by now.
Many Sanders supporters became disgusted with Warren when she failed to support him. After so long pretending to be a champion of campaign finance reform and getting money out of politics, when it came time to make a choice and take a stand with the only other candidate fighting for that, she chose to sit on the sidelines with her finger in the air testing the political winds for her own benefit.
Of course she may well have well known that Clinton held the reigns of the DNC and that the primary was a farce, which could have tempered her actions. Still, as far as people like myself can tell, she's just another empty suit that knows how to make the right noises to appease progressives while supporting something else entirely.
So am I, and always vote for him, but it's difficult to reconcile someone who both champions against government abuses such as mass surveillance and FISA, but also consistently votes to impede a citizen's right to possess firearms.
Not just sensible gun control measures, but absurdities such as voting against the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act, in support of allowing gun and ammo manufacturers to be sued into oblivion for the acts of criminals.
I suppose some leeway must be granted in considering the kind of company he keeps. It just goes to show that no politician is ever ideal.
Hypocrites, because noone would ever keep farmyard animals as pets.
Your definition of "husbandry" was also why "agricultural operation interference" laws were invented, to prevent people from being made aware of inhumane practices in feed lots and factory farms.
As a proud member of PETA (people eating tasty animals) I find your trolling leaves much to be desired.
...and now reserve oppression only for those who attempt to stand in the way of the systematic self destruction of your once proud nation and culture.
Such as the persecution of a certain activist journalist, and those that also express unapproved opinions on Twitter and Facebook.
Because we should be so grateful that a religious affiliated political organization like the ADL could become the supreme moral authority of all that is hateful , second only to the SPLC, and that the benevolent masters of our online public square increasingly defer to them. Such is the ADL's very nature that they could only ever be beyond reproach.
We should even check with the ADL daily for their proclamations, since guilt by association is still guilt by Facebook's standards. Vigilance should be always be required to avoid excommunication.
Don't even dare to question what they're doing, either. Fascists will not be tolerated.
Propaganda works because its subtle and delivered with a fake smile and plastic boops on Fox and Friends, your dose of morning treason.
Of course the best propaganda comes layered in truths. The more the appeal to authority, the better, thus all the unrelated indictments that Mueller can muster must be the correlations that prove causation.
Now with the obligatory repetition period for establishing the premise is over, so it becomes doctrine. All the better for accusing your political enemies as unpatriotic and traitors, as that never gets old, does it?
an email then hacked by Russia and laundered through Wikileaks
I think my favorite aspect to this is still the most Machiavellian one; which is that the greatest "threat to our democracy" that can be leveled against us is the very words of the political class that were never meant for plebeian ears.
Notice the dance?
Sorry if I stepped on your toes; I only ever learned the two-step.
"apparently" the witches, heathens, and infidels need to be identified and dealt with accordingly.
"apparently" good, upstanding and moral believers should use 'this one weird trick to spot neo-nazis'.
I like how you completely sidestep the AC's issue of having the account banned as a result of Facebooks (or more precisely the ADL's) shifting goalposts for censorship, just in order to lay down the "free stuff" card.
No I'm suggesting that the ADL, Facebook, and their apologists dress themselves in white robes and put on a face of good natured intent, while actually conducting capricious acts that will result in 'free speech' becoming a euphemism for 'goodthink or else'.
If you had managed the page properly and deleted those posts and banned those users you should not have run into any problems.
I wonder which more accurately sums this up:
"Baby, why you gotta make me hit you?" or
"Service guarantees citizenship!"
The nytimes article linked does not support you claim in any way whatsoever, and where did you get the texts that look like quotes?
The quotes were orinally from transcripts of undercover video footage done by a conservative journalist named James O'Keefe, which were posted to youtube. O'Keefe's videos are often criticized for their editing, and have to be taken with a grain of salt, but the videos produce evidence of the provocateurs that were organized during the 2016 election to disrupt Trump rallies. This article highlights some of the quotes I referenced.
The more that "threats to our democracy" narrative is driven by the likes of those that stage primaries, the better, because then their own tactics get brought to light. Rent-a-mobs used for intimidation and suppressing free speech and the right to peacefully assemble is a greater threat than any Russian twitter account.
Obligatory.
This is extremely dangerous to our democracy!