I guess if you're going to call me on something that I was just on a whim referencing and acknowledging a good joke by the parent poster, then I'll point out something as well. Since you're going to get all thoroughly technical, wouldn't you think about the fact that Daniel was describing a VISION he had? How does that mean that he was saying that the earth was in actual fact flat. The fact is that this is a prophecy, made not to be an exact explanation of the reality of the world, but to point to something else... but, I guess you'd realize that if you actually read the context of the verse you're referencing.
I kinda actually like the reference joking about libraries and a holy book... that's cute. But you missed a little something. Yes, scripture talks about the corners of the world, but it talks about them as the directions, north, south, east, west, not as in that the earth is a square. And funny that you would say that it IMPLIES otherwise, when it actually directly talks about the world being a circle... check out Isaiah 40:22, and in case you don't have it handy, here's a link. I also like that you talk about religion being there to subvert science. I guess I've never gotten to see scientists spend their lives trying to subvert religion either... nope, that never happens. No, I'm not trying to get a flame war started, just responding somewhat in jest to your pot shot in jest as well...
That wasn't always the case with this software. This company has always been shady in their distribution of this software. The first generations of their SPYWARE were distributed with KaZaA and other p2p clients with no notification to the user. The anti-virus is supposed to be a "legitimate" front to their activities but I wouldn't be surprised to find this bundled with other software as it always has been.
The virus writers now are wanting to get actual use out of infected systems, hence all the backdoors left as a result of all the newest viruses in the last year or two. Whether they scan for them and put bots on them later, make them part of botnets already, using them for spamming or for denial of service botnets, or whatever, they want to infect a machine and keep in on the internet and running unnoticed, and blowing the machine away isn't going to do it. They get nothing out of this kind of infection, except maybe a few laughs, and a lot of the virus writers now want actual gain, and not just laughs.
The big question on my mind is who did Microsoft buy to get into the AV market? I mean, look at a lot of their other product expeditions lately. They're just an offshoot of someone else's work that they bought. Can anyone say VirtualPC? Guess we'll just have to wait and see what it looks like...
I would have to say it's the same reason one of my professors couldn't say Java in a Java programming class. He couldn't say the letter v. It always came out as Jawa. We had to hold off on the laughter so much... Of course, the best part was the kid who sat behind me in class having the name Travis...
Boy how many times did I have to hold in laughter when I heard "Trawis... how you do this in Jawa?"
I am a student and employee of the central networking department at Kansas State University (#47), and we are an exclusively Cisco shop on our end, and don't officially support (though they work) any vendor cards except for Cisco. So, to say that it's the schools that recommend Centrino is pretty bogus. Considering that we don't do anything like that... we'd be off the list. The way I see it, Intel did this purely from the standpoint that schools that are pushing forward with wireless technologies help their business in general, whether the universities recommend and/or use centrino or not.
Let's see, here's the total of add-ons you get from Microsoft: 2 - IE and Media Player. Alright then, now lets look at a simple download of Netscape Communicator produced by AOL: The reason this download is somewhat big is because if you try to get it, you get not only Netscape, but WinAmp (another AOL product), RealPlayer, AOL Instant Messenger (what if I don't want to use AOL's shitty software?), and oh yeah, don't forget the AOL icons that go EVERYWHERE when you install any AOL product. Doesn't that piss anyone off in the least? I don't use Netscape at all as my browser because I think it sucks, and especially since AOL bought it out. I have to use Netscape calendar for work, and when I downloaded the Communicator with Calendar, I was able to tell it not to install Communicator, Winamp, and RealPlayer, but there was no check box for AOL Instant Messenger (which I can't use at work), and all of a sudden, bam, there it is on my computer! That and a nice fat "Sign up for AOL Today!" icon on my desktop. Why would I sign up for a crappy service like that? AOL should be the ones getting looked at for anti-competative nature if your going after these things like Media Player from Microsoft...
Actually, yes it is based on Code Red Mountain Dew, and Pepsi evidentally didn't regard it as negative advertising, as last week they shipped over tons of cases of Code Red MD to the EEye team that named it.
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I know there's gotta be a Blue Screen of Death joke in there somewhere...
Sorry, I wasn't entirely clear on my "he" there... The he when talking about the vision is King Nebuchadnezzar.
I guess if you're going to call me on something that I was just on a whim referencing and acknowledging a good joke by the parent poster, then I'll point out something as well. Since you're going to get all thoroughly technical, wouldn't you think about the fact that Daniel was describing a VISION he had? How does that mean that he was saying that the earth was in actual fact flat. The fact is that this is a prophecy, made not to be an exact explanation of the reality of the world, but to point to something else... but, I guess you'd realize that if you actually read the context of the verse you're referencing.
I kinda actually like the reference joking about libraries and a holy book... that's cute. But you missed a little something. Yes, scripture talks about the corners of the world, but it talks about them as the directions, north, south, east, west, not as in that the earth is a square. And funny that you would say that it IMPLIES otherwise, when it actually directly talks about the world being a circle... check out Isaiah 40:22, and in case you don't have it handy, here's a link. I also like that you talk about religion being there to subvert science. I guess I've never gotten to see scientists spend their lives trying to subvert religion either... nope, that never happens. No, I'm not trying to get a flame war started, just responding somewhat in jest to your pot shot in jest as well...
That wasn't always the case with this software. This company has always been shady in their distribution of this software. The first generations of their SPYWARE were distributed with KaZaA and other p2p clients with no notification to the user. The anti-virus is supposed to be a "legitimate" front to their activities but I wouldn't be surprised to find this bundled with other software as it always has been.
and they're hoping some big media company is being run by morons.
Sounds like a safe bet to me!
The virus writers now are wanting to get actual use out of infected systems, hence all the backdoors left as a result of all the newest viruses in the last year or two. Whether they scan for them and put bots on them later, make them part of botnets already, using them for spamming or for denial of service botnets, or whatever, they want to infect a machine and keep in on the internet and running unnoticed, and blowing the machine away isn't going to do it. They get nothing out of this kind of infection, except maybe a few laughs, and a lot of the virus writers now want actual gain, and not just laughs.
The big question on my mind is who did Microsoft buy to get into the AV market? I mean, look at a lot of their other product expeditions lately. They're just an offshoot of someone else's work that they bought. Can anyone say VirtualPC? Guess we'll just have to wait and see what it looks like...
I would have to say it's the same reason one of my professors couldn't say Java in a Java programming class. He couldn't say the letter v. It always came out as Jawa. We had to hold off on the laughter so much... Of course, the best part was the kid who sat behind me in class having the name Travis...
Boy how many times did I have to hold in laughter when I heard "Trawis... how you do this in Jawa?"
I am a student and employee of the central networking department at Kansas State University (#47), and we are an exclusively Cisco shop on our end, and don't officially support (though they work) any vendor cards except for Cisco. So, to say that it's the schools that recommend Centrino is pretty bogus. Considering that we don't do anything like that... we'd be off the list. The way I see it, Intel did this purely from the standpoint that schools that are pushing forward with wireless technologies help their business in general, whether the universities recommend and/or use centrino or not.
Let's see, here's the total of add-ons you get from Microsoft: 2 - IE and Media Player. Alright then, now lets look at a simple download of Netscape Communicator produced by AOL: The reason this download is somewhat big is because if you try to get it, you get not only Netscape, but WinAmp (another AOL product), RealPlayer, AOL Instant Messenger (what if I don't want to use AOL's shitty software?), and oh yeah, don't forget the AOL icons that go EVERYWHERE when you install any AOL product. Doesn't that piss anyone off in the least? I don't use Netscape at all as my browser because I think it sucks, and especially since AOL bought it out. I have to use Netscape calendar for work, and when I downloaded the Communicator with Calendar, I was able to tell it not to install Communicator, Winamp, and RealPlayer, but there was no check box for AOL Instant Messenger (which I can't use at work), and all of a sudden, bam, there it is on my computer! That and a nice fat "Sign up for AOL Today!" icon on my desktop. Why would I sign up for a crappy service like that? AOL should be the ones getting looked at for anti-competative nature if your going after these things like Media Player from Microsoft...
Actually, yes it is based on Code Red Mountain Dew, and Pepsi evidentally didn't regard it as negative advertising, as last week they shipped over tons of cases of Code Red MD to the EEye team that named it.