Running Mozilla isn't going to save you when you've got some malware that hijacks your TCP/IP stack and snoops HTTP trafic, popping up ads without touching the browser.
Yes, but this case was not brought by an affected user, and the judge could only rule on the complaint that was presented.
ethical treatment of handling advertisements is that if they are to be displayed with this software it must be displayed prominently so the user knows what s/he is getting themselves into.
Unfortunately, in the Uhaul vs WhenU case, this does not apply.
It would be up to the affected user to sue the software maker for decepive or unfair business practices.
Oh- IANAL, but I did discuss this case with a friend who IAL (and a consumer advocate) over beers when the case was first mentioned on/.
The ruling is about software the user installed on his or her computer that creates popups.
I have to agree with the judge on this one, if a user installs something on thier own machine that interferes with a websites marketing, the owner of that website has no right to disable or to dictate how that software works.
If the user did not know what the software did, then the user should not have installed it.
And the user should be using Mozilla (or a derivative) anyway, with popups disabled.
Here is an article,originally publushed in The Observer, that makes a good case for U.S. involvement in the Venezuelan Coup D'etat that overthrew the Chavez Presidency.
It is fair to note that the article is accurate in it's disparaging remarks about both Otto Reich and Elliot Abrams.
The similarity between the ecconomic and historical events leading to the April Coup (US interference with trade, propaganda published by White House spokesmen in the US media, and demands that the democraticly elected President of Venezuela step down) are very similar to the events that occurred before the assassination of Allende in Chile.
This may not be the acual smoking gun, but this is.
US military personel and Intelligence Officers have been getting very upset when ordered to take part in poorly planned exercises that don't match ideals they joined up to defend.
two down. I may have to take a break soon, I do have a life you know.
I know that reading actual source documents can be rather dry and boring, but it is enlightening.
I'll handle each of your challenges in individual posts. Some of them are not absolutely provable (little in life ever is), but I can at least demonstrate that your confidence in your worldview is sorely misguided.
Notes from a conversation between CIA Director Richard Helms and President Nixon that outlines the possibility of ecconomic interference with Chile, but also the possibility of an assasination of Allende if other means cannot be used to force him to step down. (the online archive includes only the cover shjeet from a collection of handwritten notes, you'll have to go to DC if you want to see the entire thing. Perhaps I'll get a chance to go there myself to transcribe them into web available and searchable form.)
An Operating Guidance Cable that specifically states that the U.S. policy is that Allende be overthrown by a coup (item 2). Item 6 actually confirms that there is such an activity policy known as "Black Operations". Hmm, all this conspiracy stuff, yet not a tin-foil hat in site.
You shouldn't make such assininely easy challenges.
I'll get to your other challenges after I walk my dog. I do have my priorities.
A progrm such as this one can only grade the construction of the essay, but will be blind to the concepts and ideas contained within that construction.
In all but the most basic writing courses, an essay is not given to test the students ability to construct an essay, but to measure the depth of understanding the student has gained of a subject by having the student demonstrate this understanding through the composing of an argument supporting a thesis that addresses a question or problem inherent to the subject of the course.
Proper grammar and stylistic constructs are necessary in order to convey the intended idea(s), but the ideas themselves are not contained in the construction itself, but in the relationships between the definitions and connotations of the chosen words that make up that construction, as well as in the order of presentation of the concepts (definitions and connotations), the implied relationships of separate constructs (similes, metaphors and ironies), and the properly drawn conclusions (by which I mean properly drawn from the preceding valid arguments and evidences. I do not mean "agreeing with the proffessor").
Unless a program can be written that is truly cognitive and therefore capable of understanding all possible relationships between the above concepts, as well as understanding all possible permutations of the legitimate classes of arguments (logos, ethos, and pathos), all possible combinations of those concepts (including the classes of argument), and be capable of deducing meanings from context, an essay grading program would only be able to provide perhaps half of the analysis for a proper grading of any essay.
In other words, a 100% from the grading program should only garauntee a 50% for an essay.
Hey, where's your double standard? You couldn't possibly believe that other nations have the same ecconomic rights that the US does, do you? That would be treason!
Microsoft would in effect be trying to compete with a legal monopoly.
Actually what you describe would be a government monopoly (perhaps legal, perhaps not depending on where you live), but it would be difficult for the governments involved to carry out what you describe given that they are developing an open standards and Open Source OS.
Your description is more similar to Microsoft being somehow forced to compete with itself.
To think that Microsoft is going to win this in the end is naive.
Disregarding the possibility of Microsoft using political manipulation to legislate Free Software out of existance, I agree with you, but I do wonder how far off "the end" might be considering that $50 Billion can go quite a long way.
The momentum is quite the opposite.
I'm not convinced that the Free Software meme has quite reached the tipping point as yet, but simple and honest advocacy can get it there especially if Microsoft keeps irritating and alienating its customers with tactics like those demonstrated in the article. It's not as though the US government is not subsidizing Microsoft when it asks for and recieves changes to thier products in exchange for obscenely overpriced military contracts.
Or maybe it's like nothing in the real world at all, and we have different expectations of real privacy and security vs electronic privacy and security.
The only change I'd make to that statement would be to add the word should (or can) between we and have.
So maybe, we should stop with the analogies as they are all strained.
Where'd you read that? Must've been a different article.
Breaking & Entering doesn't mean anyone has to be home or their life directly threatened.
Yeah, but using a remote to erase the programs on your neighbor's VCR does not = "Breaking and Entering" as long as you stay out of the house when you do it.
So if someone had broken into my house without permission, then told me about it afterwards, am I supposed to feel better about it?
But if someone noticed that you can see into your bathroom and bedroom from the street, do you get them busted for being a peeping tom?
The guy's not threatening anyone, nor is he stealing or endangering anyone's life. The "Housebreaking" metaphor doesn't realy apply.
OTOH, your mention of the deadbolt and alarm does apply, but only in the sense that if I did buy/install a deadbolt and alarm, I'd be royally pissed if they didn't work.
I thought you were refering to a link in the article. It was your "get a job and stop leeching" remark that threw me off though. The guy's not a leech, he's just an ass.
I still should have checked the parent before posting though.
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Bit out of hand there, don't you think?
It's not manditory, no one is forcing anyone to use the link, and, personally, I see nothing wrong with giving a percentage of the sale to a person who refers me to a book that I find worthwhile.
First of all, conservatism (in the present day usage) has nothing to do with the size of the government and everything to do with the extent that the government interferes in private business matters.
Second, the current "conservative" government of the United States has increased the size of our government and increased government spending, even if you eliminate the costs of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Most of this spending increase is going to domestic intelligence gathering ("homeland security"), which, if I am understand correctly, means spying on American citizens, invading thier privacy, and interfereing in thier personal affairs.
Thirdly, I'd never be so stupid as to think that the current leaders of the Republican party would understand what Conservatism meant to an actual conservative.
Increased government spending (and tax cuts for the rich), the War on Drugs (and the War on Terrorim: Take One), and a President who probably couldn't get it up if he wanted.
If you came to this country illegally, you can't vote.
You are showing you ignorance, this is the current situation already, and it is unlikely to change anytime soon (nor should it).
Third, some basic questions, like "Name the current President of the United States" or "How many states are there in the USA".
How about "What's your favorite color?" I call it the Monty Python Electoral Assurance Program. It's a stupid idea that would lead to abuses in areas where people believe such untruths such as "the illegal aliens are messing up the vote".
Remember all the Star Trek: TNG episodes where the 8-10 year olds were studying Calculus? They didn't get there by being told that they're special the way they are...
Correct, they giot there by being photogenic and having a mom that would sleep with the casting director. Also, it is unlikely that any of those 8-10 year olds (or the teacher in the episode) could actually do any calculus. It's a TV show, it's meant to entertain, distract, and possibly inspire. Not to be used as a yardstick to measure your possibly unsatisfying reality.
the stupidity of the general public is the biggest problem.
The problem is not stupidity, but ignorance. In a Democracy, having stupid voters decide an election is simply the cost of not properly funding and managing education.
Those who do not wish to pay for the education of those not related to them must get used to the idea that there will be far fewer educated voters under such a system, and it will be the ignorant who decide the outcome of the elections.
Because it is a "liberal ideology" that states that all citizens of the United States should have equal right to vote regardless of religeon, race, eduction, economic status, or prior conviction of a felony.
And why do the right wingers instinctively want these machines?
I'm not sure, but it does seem that Diebold did recognise that very desire among the Republicans.
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Running Mozilla isn't going to save you when you've got some malware that hijacks your TCP/IP stack and snoops HTTP trafic, popping up ads without touching the browser.
Yes, but this case was not brought by an affected user, and the judge could only rule on the complaint that was presented.
Please see my other post here.
And, IANAL yadda yadda, etc.
ethical treatment of handling advertisements is that if they are to be displayed with this software it must be displayed prominently so the user knows what s/he is getting themselves into.
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Unfortunately, in the Uhaul vs WhenU case, this does not apply.
It would be up to the affected user to sue the software maker for decepive or unfair business practices.
Oh- IANAL, but I did discuss this case with a friend who IAL (and a consumer advocate) over beers when the case was first mentioned on
The ruling is not about popups.
The ruling is about software the user installed on his or her computer that creates popups.
I have to agree with the judge on this one, if a user installs something on thier own machine that interferes with a websites marketing, the owner of that website has no right to disable or to dictate how that software works.
If the user did not know what the software did, then the user should not have installed it.
And the user should be using Mozilla (or a derivative) anyway, with popups disabled.
Not "proof", but ever is.
,originally publushed in The Observer, that makes a good case for U.S. involvement in the Venezuelan Coup D'etat that overthrew the Chavez Presidency.
Here is an article
It is fair to note that the article is accurate in it's disparaging remarks about both Otto Reich and Elliot Abrams.
The similarity between the ecconomic and historical events leading to the April Coup (US interference with trade, propaganda published by White House spokesmen in the US media, and demands that the democraticly elected President of Venezuela step down) are very similar to the events that occurred before the assassination of Allende in Chile.
This may not be the acual smoking gun, but this is.
US military personel and Intelligence Officers have been getting very upset when ordered to take part in poorly planned exercises that don't match ideals they joined up to defend.
two down. I may have to take a break soon, I do have a life you know.
I know that reading actual source documents can be rather dry and boring, but it is enlightening.
I'll handle each of your challenges in individual posts. Some of them are not absolutely provable (little in life ever is), but I can at least demonstrate that your confidence in your worldview is sorely misguided.
Looking around at one of my favorite sites, George Washington University's National Security Archive I found this page.
This is what I found:
Notes from a conversation between CIA Director Richard Helms and President Nixon that outlines the possibility of ecconomic interference with Chile, but also the possibility of an assasination of Allende if other means cannot be used to force him to step down. (the online archive includes only the cover shjeet from a collection of handwritten notes, you'll have to go to DC if you want to see the entire thing. Perhaps I'll get a chance to go there myself to transcribe them into web available and searchable form.)
Minutes from the meeting where Project FUBELT was established that include (item 5) that shows that National Security Advisor Henry Kissenger was directly involved in the planning.
and
An Operating Guidance Cable that specifically states that the U.S. policy is that Allende be overthrown by a coup (item 2). Item 6 actually confirms that there is such an activity policy known as "Black Operations". Hmm, all this conspiracy stuff, yet not a tin-foil hat in site.
You shouldn't make such assininely easy challenges.
I'll get to your other challenges after I walk my dog. I do have my priorities.
when something is published it can't be patented.
Patenting something is publishing it.
A progrm such as this one can only grade the construction of the essay, but will be blind to the concepts and ideas contained within that construction.
In all but the most basic writing courses, an essay is not given to test the students ability to construct an essay, but to measure the depth of understanding the student has gained of a subject by having the student demonstrate this understanding through the composing of an argument supporting a thesis that addresses a question or problem inherent to the subject of the course.
Proper grammar and stylistic constructs are necessary in order to convey the intended idea(s), but the ideas themselves are not contained in the construction itself, but in the relationships between the definitions and connotations of the chosen words that make up that construction, as well as in the order of presentation of the concepts (definitions and connotations), the implied relationships of separate constructs (similes, metaphors and ironies), and the properly drawn conclusions (by which I mean properly drawn from the preceding valid arguments and evidences. I do not mean "agreeing with the proffessor").
Unless a program can be written that is truly cognitive and therefore capable of understanding all possible relationships between the above concepts, as well as understanding all possible permutations of the legitimate classes of arguments (logos, ethos, and pathos), all possible combinations of those concepts (including the classes of argument), and be capable of deducing meanings from context, an essay grading program would only be able to provide perhaps half of the analysis for a proper grading of any essay.
In other words, a 100% from the grading program should only garauntee a 50% for an essay.
earmarking millions of dollars to support the development of that software.
Or possibly granting huge above-market purchasing contracts.
Er, wait. No it doesn't.
Hey, where's your double standard? You couldn't possibly believe that other nations have the same ecconomic rights that the US does, do you? That would be treason!
Microsoft would in effect be trying to compete with a legal monopoly.
Actually what you describe would be a government monopoly (perhaps legal, perhaps not depending on where you live), but it would be difficult for the governments involved to carry out what you describe given that they are developing an open standards and Open Source OS.
Your description is more similar to Microsoft being somehow forced to compete with itself.
To think that Microsoft is going to win this in the end is naive.
Disregarding the possibility of Microsoft using political manipulation to legislate Free Software out of existance, I agree with you, but I do wonder how far off "the end" might be considering that $50 Billion can go quite a long way.
The momentum is quite the opposite.
I'm not convinced that the Free Software meme has quite reached the tipping point as yet, but simple and honest advocacy can get it there especially if Microsoft keeps irritating and alienating its customers with tactics like those demonstrated in the article. It's not as though the US government is not subsidizing Microsoft when it asks for and recieves changes to thier products in exchange for obscenely overpriced military contracts.
Or maybe it's like nothing in the real world at all, and we have different expectations of real privacy and security vs electronic privacy and security.
The only change I'd make to that statement would be to add the word should (or can) between we and have.
So maybe, we should stop with the analogies as they are all strained.
'nuff said.
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'nuff said.
If you crawled in through the doggy door and took a look at the porn collection in my bathroom I would be pissed.
How bout if I just looked at your porn using that Windows fileshare you've got open to your cablemodem?
Was that "breaking and entering"
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Where'd you read that? Must've been a different article.
Breaking & Entering doesn't mean anyone has to be home or their life directly threatened.
Yeah, but using a remote to erase the programs on your neighbor's VCR does not = "Breaking and Entering" as long as you stay out of the house when you do it.
So if someone had broken into my house without permission, then told me about it afterwards, am I supposed to feel better about it?
But if someone noticed that you can see into your bathroom and bedroom from the street, do you get them busted for being a peeping tom?
The guy's not threatening anyone, nor is he stealing or endangering anyone's life. The "Housebreaking" metaphor doesn't realy apply.
OTOH, your mention of the deadbolt and alarm does apply, but only in the sense that if I did buy/install a deadbolt and alarm, I'd be royally pissed if they didn't work.
Yes, but Carnegie did not require that the libraries be used to train people for using only his products.
I thought you were refering to a link in the article. It was your "get a job and stop leeching" remark that threw me off though. The guy's not a leech, he's just an ass.
I still should have checked the parent before posting though.
Bit out of hand there, don't you think?
It's not manditory, no one is forcing anyone to use the link, and, personally, I see nothing wrong with giving a percentage of the sale to a person who refers me to a book that I find worthwhile.
conservativism (limited government)
First of all, conservatism (in the present day usage) has nothing to do with the size of the government and everything to do with the extent that the government interferes in private business matters.
Second, the current "conservative" government of the United States has increased the size of our government and increased government spending, even if you eliminate the costs of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Most of this spending increase is going to domestic intelligence gathering ("homeland security"), which, if I am understand correctly, means spying on American citizens, invading thier privacy, and interfereing in thier personal affairs.
Thirdly, I'd never be so stupid as to think that the current leaders of the Republican party would understand what Conservatism meant to an actual conservative.
dipshit.
3.Every company in my stock portfolio recieves a nice juicy government contract.
Yeah, I remember it well,
Increased government spending (and tax cuts for the rich), the War on Drugs (and the War on Terrorim: Take One), and a President who probably couldn't get it up if he wanted.
Supposedly the connection is one way, so they cannot "rig" the election,
Yeah that's it, a one-way wireless ethernet connection, like my Snort sniffing cable. Just cut the wire right her... oops, no wire.
If you came to this country illegally, you can't vote.
You are showing you ignorance, this is the current situation already, and it is unlikely to change anytime soon (nor should it).
Third, some basic questions, like "Name the current President of the United States" or "How many states are there in the USA".
How about "What's your favorite color?" I call it the Monty Python Electoral Assurance Program. It's a stupid idea that would lead to abuses in areas where people believe such untruths such as "the illegal aliens are messing up the vote".
Remember all the Star Trek: TNG episodes where the 8-10 year olds were studying Calculus? They didn't get there by being told that they're special the way they are...
Correct, they giot there by being photogenic and having a mom that would sleep with the casting director. Also, it is unlikely that any of those 8-10 year olds (or the teacher in the episode) could actually do any calculus. It's a TV show, it's meant to entertain, distract, and possibly inspire. Not to be used as a yardstick to measure your possibly unsatisfying reality.
the stupidity of the general public is the biggest problem.
The problem is not stupidity, but ignorance. In a Democracy, having stupid voters decide an election is simply the cost of not properly funding and managing education.
Those who do not wish to pay for the education of those not related to them must get used to the idea that there will be far fewer educated voters under such a system, and it will be the ignorant who decide the outcome of the elections.
Why is it a "liberal" issues?
Because it is a "liberal ideology" that states that all citizens of the United States should have equal right to vote regardless of religeon, race, eduction, economic status, or prior conviction of a felony.
And why do the right wingers instinctively want these machines?
I'm not sure, but it does seem that Diebold did recognise that very desire among the Republicans.