I just realized I may have a use case for myself. I have been 2-3km out on the lake on my OC1 with my phone in a waterproof case and strapped to the boat. It's there for absolute emergencies, and I would not dare take it out. A waterproof smartwatch could actually be useful to me, especially if I could take/make a call.
I bought the device as a developer, fully knowing that the device was not ready for the mass market, BUT at the time the message from Agenda Computing was that the consumer release was to happen within 4 months. That statement to me implied a certain level of readiness and usability in the software and hardware platform which the device failed to meet from the very beginning.
It quickly became obvious that IMO the device was not going to be anywhere near usable for about a year by anyone but hard-core hardware, kernel and X11 hackers who would be working out the issues with Agenda's hardware and their software distribution.
I bought the Agenda to develop productivity applications for a viable platform, NOT to help Agenda Computing in chasing down their bugs and fix poorly implemented core features.
The platform was not viable simply because of the poor usability of the character recognition system that no-one was working on in any sugnificant manner.
I bought an Agenda in January 2001 and sold it by March 2001. I was initially blinded by the fact that it ran Linux, but very quickly I discovered that the device was useless to me unless I used it solely as a developer device and did not expect to use it on a day-to-day basis.
The penstroke recognition was so innacurate and slow compared to a Palm device that it made the Agenda useless and there were no real productivity applications.
It's too bad that it's dissapearing but the honest truth is that the Agenda had no value to offer beyond the "Linux Inside" gimmick.
I don't have time to hack around so I am forced to sell the developers Agenda model that I have.
It's the original development version, flashed to the latest kernel and agenda distro.
In perfect condition, hardly used. Complete with original packaging, cradle, serial cable, headphones and carrying case.
I will also throw in 10pairs of AAA batteries.
I'm asking $150US or $225CDN. Buyer to pay shipping from Toronto, Ontario.
Contact me at mimrisek@home.com if you are interested.
As someone who develops on Solaris and HPUX in an overwhelmingly Windows centric software development house I can tell you that if your NT machines are crashing during compiles then you've got serious hardware and/or driver problems. I can understand if you said that crashing the VC++ compiler is easy. It is. But NT crashing during compiles points to memory hardware problems (or NIC and HD problems if compiling on a network share).
The guy who sells the "real" Rolex watches on a street corner also can offer lifetime warranties and guarantees.
/**** Selling a 2 CD Set for 3.99 on eBay or 9.99 on Amazon and offering LIFETIME SUPPORT and a LIFETIME WARRANTY is not a ripoff. I sell a product superior to cheap bits and offer value added services they don't know about. If you can find ANYWHERE else on the net offering FREE LIFETIME SUPPORT AND WARRANTY for a Linux + PowerTools 2 cd set - buy it because it's a steal! ******/
The guy who sells the "real" Rolex watches on a street corner also can offer lifetime warranties and guarantees./**** Selling a 2 CD Set for 3.99 on eBay or 9.99 on Amazon and offering LIFETIME SUPPORT and a LIFETIME WARRANTY is not a ripoff. I sell a product superior to cheap bits and offer value added services they don't know about. If you can find ANYWHERE else on the net offering FREE LIFETIME SUPPORT AND WARRANTY for a Linux + PowerTools 2 cd set - buy it because it's a steal! ******/
I agree that Visual C++ is not the greatest IDE and it certainly is unsuitable to developing and debugging multi-threaded apps but it appears to be the most popular by a long shot. However CW for Linux (and Solaris) is underwhelming. I've bought both and decided to continue using xemacs (and VisualWorkshop on Solaris).
Silly rabbit. RedHat is a distribution that consists of Linux and the GNU environment as well as other open source software like GNOME, Apache etc. The commercial version includes commercial software that Red Hat either licenses or distributes for other software companies. Aside from that, the base Red Hat is equivalent to SuSe, Debian GNU/Linux, Caldera, Mandrake , TurboLinux and (yes) Slackware.
There is no such thing as RedHat 2.2 kernel. It's the Linux kernel, though it may contain patches by RedHat that haven't made it into the general 2.2 tree.
Now be a good rabbit, hop off and get your facts straight. Inflammatory rhetoric will not get you anywhere.
They use a win32 porting kit called MainWin from MainSoft. This porting kit is not available for Linux, (at this time) hence the lack of a Linux IE version. Besides, why in the world would you want to use a badly ported version of IE anyway?
I can tell you exactly how MS will do it. They will attempt to use a product called MainWin which provides a Win32 implementation on several version of UNIX. The end result will be a binary native application but it will have the same look and feel and usability as the Windows version. They are definitely not rewriting their Win32 code. I am involved in porting a Win32/MFC/COM product to Solaris and HP and am using a similar method. If you want more details about these Win32 implementations see http://www.bristol.com and http://www.mainsoft.com
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I just realized I may have a use case for myself. I have been 2-3km out on the lake on my OC1 with my phone in a waterproof case and strapped to the boat. It's there for absolute emergencies, and I would not dare take it out. A waterproof smartwatch could actually be useful to me, especially if I could take/make a call.
Most likely this was a procedure to measure the thickness of your cornea at various points. I had this done prior to and after my corneal transplant.
I bought the device as a developer, fully knowing that the device was not ready for the mass market, BUT at the time the message from Agenda Computing was that the consumer release was to happen within 4 months. That statement to me implied a certain level of readiness and usability in the software and hardware platform which the device failed to meet from the very beginning.
It quickly became obvious that IMO the device was not going to be anywhere near usable for about a year by anyone but hard-core hardware, kernel and X11 hackers who would be working out the issues with Agenda's hardware and their software distribution.
I bought the Agenda to develop productivity applications for a viable platform, NOT to help Agenda Computing in chasing down their bugs and fix poorly implemented core features.
The platform was not viable simply because of the poor usability of the character recognition system that no-one was working on in any sugnificant manner.
Cheers.
I bought an Agenda in January 2001 and sold it by March 2001. I was initially blinded by the fact that it ran Linux, but very quickly I discovered that the device was useless to me unless I used it solely as a developer device and did not expect to use it on a day-to-day basis.
The penstroke recognition was so innacurate and slow compared to a Palm device that it made the Agenda useless and there were no real productivity applications.
It's too bad that it's dissapearing but the honest truth is that the Agenda had no value to offer beyond the "Linux Inside" gimmick.
I don't have time to hack around so I am forced to sell the developers Agenda model that I have.
It's the original development version, flashed to the latest kernel and agenda distro.
In perfect condition, hardly used. Complete with original packaging, cradle, serial cable, headphones and carrying case.
I will also throw in 10pairs of AAA batteries.
I'm asking $150US or $225CDN. Buyer to pay shipping from Toronto, Ontario.
Contact me at mimrisek@home.com if you are interested.
As someone who develops on Solaris and HPUX in an overwhelmingly Windows centric software development house I can tell you that if your NT machines are crashing during compiles then you've got serious hardware and/or driver problems.
I can understand if you said that crashing the VC++ compiler is easy. It is. But NT crashing during compiles points to memory hardware problems (or NIC and HD problems if compiling on a network share).
sucker... :)
The guy who sells the "real" Rolex watches on a street corner also can offer lifetime warranties and guarantees.
/****
Selling a 2 CD Set for 3.99 on eBay or 9.99 on Amazon and offering LIFETIME
SUPPORT and a LIFETIME WARRANTY is not a ripoff. I sell a product superior to
cheap bits and offer value added services they don't know about. If you can find
ANYWHERE else on the net offering FREE LIFETIME SUPPORT AND WARRANTY
for a Linux + PowerTools 2 cd set - buy it because it's a steal!
******/
The guy who sells the "real" Rolex watches on a street corner also can offer lifetime warranties and guarantees. /**** Selling a 2 CD Set for 3.99 on eBay or 9.99 on Amazon and offering LIFETIME SUPPORT and a LIFETIME WARRANTY is not a ripoff. I sell a product superior to cheap bits and offer value added services they don't know about. If you can find ANYWHERE else on the net offering FREE LIFETIME SUPPORT AND WARRANTY for a Linux + PowerTools 2 cd set - buy it because it's a steal! ******/
I agree that Visual C++ is not the greatest IDE and it certainly is unsuitable to developing and debugging multi-threaded apps but it appears to be the most popular by a long shot.
However CW for Linux (and Solaris) is underwhelming. I've bought both and decided to continue using xemacs (and VisualWorkshop on Solaris).
Silly rabbit. RedHat is a distribution that consists of Linux and the GNU environment as well as other open source software like GNOME, Apache etc. The commercial version includes commercial software that Red Hat either licenses or distributes for other software companies.
Aside from that, the base Red Hat is equivalent to SuSe, Debian GNU/Linux, Caldera, Mandrake , TurboLinux and (yes) Slackware.
There is no such thing as RedHat 2.2 kernel. It's the Linux kernel, though it may contain patches by RedHat that haven't made it into the general 2.2 tree.
Now be a good rabbit, hop off and get your facts straight. Inflammatory rhetoric will not get you anywhere.
They use a win32 porting kit called MainWin from MainSoft. This porting kit is not available for Linux, (at this time) hence the lack of a Linux
IE version. Besides, why in the world would you want to use a badly ported version of IE anyway?
I can tell you exactly how MS will do it. They will attempt to use a product called MainWin which provides a Win32 implementation on several version of UNIX. The end result will be a binary native application but it will have the same look and feel and usability as the Windows version. They are definitely not rewriting their Win32 code. I am involved in porting a Win32/MFC/COM product to Solaris and HP and am using a similar method. If you want more details about these Win32 implementations see http://www.bristol.com and http://www.mainsoft.com