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Report: Apple Watch Preorders Almost 1 Million On First Day In the US

An anonymous reader writes The launch of the Apple Watch has got off to a good start, with an estimated 1 million pre-orders in the U.S. on Friday. "According to Slice's Sunday report, which is based on e-receipt data obtained directly from consumers, 957,000 people preordered the Watch on Friday, with 62% purchasing the cheapest variant, the Apple Watch Sport. On average, each buyer ordered 1.3 watches and spent $503.83 per watch."

290 comments

  1. Oblig by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful
    1. Re:Oblig by narcc · · Score: 1

      How's that insightful?

    2. Re:Oblig by WSOGMM · · Score: 1

      How's that insightful?

      I think the slashdot rating system is broken. Every time I get the opportunity to moderate, I do so, and it gets modded up as a much nicer compliment than I intended.

    3. Re:Oblig by tehcyder · · Score: 2

      How's that insightful?

      Linking to an xkcd cartoon is pretty much a guarantee of a +5 Insightful mod on slashdot. Fuck knows why, especially when it's as moronic as that one.

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  2. i give up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I do. I might as well make money off of it * buys AAPL shares*.

  3. It wasn't funny the first time by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 3, Funny

    Guys, the joke is over! 800,000 fake Apple Watch orders wasn't funny the first time!

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  4. Humanity is lost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Anyone buying this watch is an idiot. It's like buying a flat bed trailer and a car. And using the flat bed trailer to transport the car everywhere.

    You already have a damned smartphone. All the functionality is there without the extra $350 expendature.

    1. Re:Humanity is lost by geekmux · · Score: 2

      Anyone buying this watch is an idiot. It's like buying a flat bed trailer and a car. And using the flat bed trailer to transport the car everywhere.

      You already have a damned smartphone. All the functionality is there without the extra $350 expendature.

      The funny part about your argument here is people still buy flat-bed trailers...to haul cars around.

      That said, a fool and their money are soon parted. The odd part about this is likely 75% of the people buying an Apple watch probably haven't worn any watch for years because they have a smartphone in their pocket. Go figure.

    2. Re:Humanity is lost by NeoMorphy · · Score: 3, Informative

      With a smart watch you do not have to take your phone out of your pocket every time you want "check the time"/"see who is calling(ignore,answer)"/"check a text, respond to text"/"look at a notification". While raking leaves yesterday, I was able to play music(Google Play radio) from my phone and control it with the watch, if I didn't like the song I used the watch to go to the next song. So much more convenient than pulling the phone out each time. I also use the watch as a trusted device so I don't have to enter a code each time. If I forget the phone, the watch alerts me when I am out of range.

      The Apple watch is still stupid. Too expensive and the battery life is short. I get ~7 days out my pebble.

    3. Re:Humanity is lost by ArcadeMan · · Score: 2

      Dude, the Pebble sucks. Get yourself a real smartwatch.

    4. Re:Humanity is lost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With a smart watch you do not have to take your phone out of your pocket every time you want "check the time"/"see who is calling(ignore,answer)"/"check a text, respond to text"/"look at a notification". While raking leaves yesterday, I was able to play music(Google Play radio) from my phone and control it with the watch, if I didn't like the song I used the watch to go to the next song. So much more convenient than pulling the phone out each time.

      My $20 bluetooth headset also handles that... In fact, the only thing it doesn't do on your list is "respond to text".

    5. Re:Humanity is lost by Eponymous+Coward · · Score: 0

      There's a big difference - the Apple watch starts around $400 which is impulse buy territory for lots and lots of people. I think it's pretty neat, especially the ResearchKit stuff.

    6. Re:Humanity is lost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh right... Which phone accurately measures your heart rate as you exercise then?

    7. Re:Humanity is lost by invid · · Score: 2

      25 year old son Hey dad, do you have a watch I can borrow?

      Father I have a watch in my top drawer, but the battery ran out.

      22 year old son That's okay. I'm going to bar tonight, I don't need the watch to actually tell time.

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    8. Re:Humanity is lost by jythie · · Score: 1

      *nods* for example, anyone who has a car that is modded enough to no longer be street legal (or good for using on the street) for various hobbies.

    9. Re:Humanity is lost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Technically not true.

      You can use Google Now / voice recognition / synthesis to listen and respond to texts.

    10. Re:Humanity is lost by dugancent · · Score: 0

      I don't have a smartwatch and I'm not constantly pulling my phone out of my pocket.

      You don't have to immediately respond to every vibrate/ring that comes along.

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    11. Re:Humanity is lost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OMG, why do you need a Bluetooth headset - your smartphone already does all of that!!!!!!!

    12. Re:Humanity is lost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The smartphone doesn't have to be in your pocket...that's another nice part of this, you can just leave it in your bag, on your table, in another room, etc.

    13. Re:Humanity is lost by Greyfox · · Score: 1

      About that many men want to wear a bracelet, but don't want other people to think they're gay.

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    14. Re:Humanity is lost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just got a Pebble, when Best Buy had them for $60 with a .edu discount. At that price, I'm liking it. It's certainly not something I was desperate for, but some of the things are kind of neat. I also like wearing a watch anyway.
      Lots of people have been asking me if it's an Apple watch. I say no, it's not that smart.

    15. Re:Humanity is lost by Merk42 · · Score: 2

      Well what is the 25 year old son supposed to do?

    16. Re:Humanity is lost by rogoshen1 · · Score: 4, Funny

      well without the calendar function on the watch, he lost track of his age.

    17. Re:Humanity is lost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it's the same son. It's just that he doesn't know what year it is because the watch doesn't work.

    18. Re:Humanity is lost by Krojack · · Score: 2

      Respond, no maybe not but some people might need to see what the messages are. I have software monitoring many servers and they send out txt messages if anything strange is detected. Some are notices and some are critical alerts that do need to responded to right away.

    19. Re:Humanity is lost by geekmux · · Score: 1

      Well what is the 25 year old son supposed to do?

      Gee, I dunno...stand around a bar wondering why he's the only kid under 30 wearing a wristwatch?

      Perhaps it will become even more clear to him when someone asks for the current time...which he can't give.

    20. Re:Humanity is lost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With a smart watch you do not have to take your phone out of your pocket every time you want "check the time"/"see who is calling(ignore,answer)"/"check a text, respond to text"/"look at a notification". While raking leaves yesterday, I was able to play music(Google Play radio) from my phone and control it with the watch, if I didn't like the song I used the watch to go to the next song. So much more convenient than pulling the phone out each time. I also use the watch as a trusted device so I don't have to enter a code each time. If I forget the phone, the watch alerts me when I am out of range.

      The Apple watch is still stupid. Too expensive and the battery life is short. I get ~7 days out my pebble.

      I stopped warring a watch around 1972, largely because I objected to how it was making me a slave to time (time's an illusion, blah-blah, and such non-airport stuff). I started carrying a "smartphone" a few years ago, and am considering an upgrade to said smartphone - Samsung Galaxy 3. However, I'm unlikely to wear a "smartwatch" until it does more than a mere smartphone.

    21. Re:Humanity is lost by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      There's a big difference - the Apple watch starts around $400 which is impulse buy territory for lots and lots of people. I think it's pretty neat, especially the ResearchKit stuff.

      $400 is NOT "impulse buy" territory.

      In fact, there are many cheaper Android Wear devices out there.

      What is interesting is basically in one day, Apple has basically outsold practically all smartwatches sold to date combined - even best selling ones like the Moto 360 really only moved around 100K units in total. And Apple's watch costs more, and works with less, to boot.

      Granted, I have no use for one (I don't even have an iPhone capable of using it), and while I got bored with the in-store demo, I will say at least there seems to be potential there - lots of apps are updated with Apple Watch support, so there seems to be lots of room for extension. At least it seems not as limiting as Android Wear where the interactions seem limited to what Google allows you to do.

    22. Re:Humanity is lost by invid · · Score: 1

      That's what I get for using hard coded constants.

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    23. Re:Humanity is lost by Eponymous+Coward · · Score: 1

      $400 is NOT "impulse buy" territory.

      It certainly is in tech-rich areas like Northern California and NYC. They didn't sell a million of these things to cautious consumers that planned carefully. People wanted it and bought it after knowing very little about it.

      In fact, there are many cheaper Android Wear devices out there.

      What's your point? Apple rarely competes on price. The bottom of the market is fiercely competitive and thus has razor thin margins. It's a terrible place to try to make money.

    24. Re:Humanity is lost by spire3661 · · Score: 1

      I use a dedicated MP3 player i paid $40 for. The idea of using my pocket communicator's battery to listen to music is silly. All my life i have been into tech, but these smart watches are a joke. They need to be MUCH cheaper, work UNIVERSALLY with any computer/device, hold a charge for days, and not look like the crap they currently do. Its a lot like 3D video tech. Its great and fun but im not paying a premium for it, come back when its baked into the feature set for low cost.

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    25. Re:Humanity is lost by Joshua+Fan · · Score: 1

      Even for the purpose of saving you that second, the Verge review says it's kinda slow for that. So instead of pulling your phone out to check something, flip your wrist, wait for the watch to wake up, swipe to notifications, and wait for that to load. Kinda pointless.

    26. Re:Humanity is lost by spire3661 · · Score: 1

      Yeah Google is kind of shitting the bed with Wear, Android TV and the car stuff. They want to protect Android's image so much that they are losing sight of what makes Android great. I thought Android TV would be great, but with Google's restrictions, no one cares about the platform.

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    27. Re:Humanity is lost by reboot246 · · Score: 0

      I thought owning an Apple product made you look gay, at least gayer than wearing a bracelet.

    28. Re: Humanity is lost by NeoMorphy · · Score: 1

      None of those are issues with the Pebble. It's always on and the notifications automatically display. Zero lag time.

    29. Re:Humanity is lost by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 1

      You already have a damned smartphone. All the functionality is there without the extra $350 expendature.

      Anyone who wears pants is an idiot. You already have underwear, all the functionality is there without the extra [$20,infinity) expenditure.

      Never mind that most of us work in such climate controlled environments that clothing has entirely lost functional value and is primarily a vestige of social (read: bullshit) requirements, not actual utility.

    30. Re:Humanity is lost by itzly · · Score: 2

      Anyone who wears pants is an idiot.

      I need them to hold my smartphone.

    31. Re:Humanity is lost by zieroh · · Score: 1

      You already have a damned smartphone. All the functionality is there without the extra $350 expendature.

      So you think that the whole world transitioned from pocket watches to wrist watches many decades ago because they were all sheeple?

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    32. Re:Humanity is lost by zieroh · · Score: 1

      I don't have a smartwatch and I'm not constantly pulling my phone out of my pocket.

      You don't have to immediately respond to every vibrate/ring that comes along.

      It's at least worth considering whether your needs are representative of the whole of humanity (or not). My guess is "not".

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    33. Re:Humanity is lost by CastrTroy · · Score: 2

      I agree. I think there although there are lots of people in America without money, there is also quite a few people with ample spending money. A graduate from a good university in a field with good jobs could easily earn $75,000 a year. Let's assume that the person is married to somebody who also went to school and can earn $75,000 a year. Together, they make $150,000 a year. That's a lot of money. Unless you are living in extremely expensive areas like Manhattan or San Francisco (in which case the two people will probably be making $200,000-$300,000 combined), then you should have plenty of money to spend on whatever you want.

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    34. Re:Humanity is lost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This. You can wear your watch and have it constantly monitor your heart. If it stops, it can notify someone (assuming no one is with you).

      That alone is worth a lot.

      Slashdot is turning into less news for nerds (okay, that was gone a while ago) and more into who can be more negative about new technology.

    35. Re:Humanity is lost by Cederic · · Score: 1

      $400 is NOT "impulse buy" territory.

      Erm. Yeah, for some people it is. My sous vide oven was an impulse buy, at $440. I don't need one, I just decided it rocked and bought it.

      Good call in the end, I use it 2-3 times a week, but that's luck not research.

      $400 for a watch? Easily pocket change for a lot of people.

    36. Re:Humanity is lost by Cederic · · Score: 1

      If it stops, it can notify someone (assuming no one is with you).

      Thanks, I needed a good giggle.

    37. Re:Humanity is lost by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 1

      So I don't want to tell you what to do, but these are highly convenient:
      http://www.kohls.com/product/p...

      From a comfort/practice perspective I'd take these over pants any day of the week. Additionally as pants also are known to hold wallets, and the traditional manly place of placing a wallet is the right rear pocket which is not ideal from a back health standpoint. A fanny pack can also hold this, and car keys and other famously pocket things.

      Of course, as with may things practical, there seems to be a social stigma both with not wearing pants and with wearing fanny packs. To the point that you can't be caught dead with one

    38. Re:Humanity is lost by backslashdot · · Score: 1

      What about the millions of people who want other people to think they are douches? They need a douchewatch.

    39. Re:Humanity is lost by ah.clem · · Score: 1

      So you think that the whole world transitioned from pocket watches to wrist watches many decades ago because they were all sheeple?

      While there are a few examples of wristwatch design prior (especially for the military), in 1904 Dumont asked Cartier to design a watch he could wear and still keep both hands free for flying. Jaeger designed a wristwatch for Cartier called the "Dumont", after the famous aviator, in 1911 for commercial sale and the "trendy set" rushed to buy them. Sounds like a pretty familiar story to me... even a bit sheeplish, don't you think? I believe that some things never really change, but of course, that's just my opinion.

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    40. Re:Humanity is lost by backslashdot · · Score: 1

      How many calls do you fools get that you need to screen calls? "Ring Ring .. let me check my douchewatch .. hmm .. not answering!"
      Answer all your calls. I can see the need for a smartwatch to answer texts though. When someone texts you, respond on your douchewatch with "call me" and then don't answer the phone.

    41. Re:Humanity is lost by TheRhinoplast · · Score: 1

      Yes, if only we lived in your strictly utilitarian world and didn't have to deal with burdens like differences in taste, personal choice, fashion, interesting form factors for their own sake, or change.

    42. Re:Humanity is lost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right. People buy Android smartwatches, and you're okay with that. People buy an Apple watch, and they are fools.

      You are arrogant to the max. Go spread your hate elsewhere.

    43. Re:Humanity is lost by zieroh · · Score: 1

      While there are a few examples of wristwatch design prior (especially for the military), in 1904 Dumont asked Cartier to design a watch he could wear and still keep both hands free for flying. Jaeger designed a wristwatch for Cartier called the "Dumont", after the famous aviator, in 1911 for commercial sale and the "trendy set" rushed to buy them. Sounds like a pretty familiar story to me... even a bit sheeplish, don't you think? I believe that some things never really change, but of course, that's just my opinion.

      That might explain the initial rush, but it utterly fails to explain why wristwatches became the de-facto standard for the next 90-odd years.

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    44. Re:Humanity is lost by radarskiy · · Score: 1

      Steal the watch, pawn it, hire a hooker.

    45. Re:Humanity is lost by dugancent · · Score: 0

      The whole of humanity, no. Most of humanity, yes.

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    46. Re:Humanity is lost by amxcoder · · Score: 1

      Because laws. When cell phones came out, hardly anyone had hands-free earbuds, but once states passed laws that say you get a ticket for even "touching" or "holding" your phone while in the drivers seat of a car that is started (even at a red light, stopped), people have to get them in many situations.

      There is no such law that says you have to use a smart-watch.

    47. Re:Humanity is lost by amxcoder · · Score: 1

      OMG, this! I know people that will wake up from sleep to run in and answer their cell phone. I've known people who are taking a crap and feel they NEED to answer that call when it comes in. People--most of us are NOT that important, and more importantly, most other people are NOT that important to us that we need to be at your frickin' beck and call when you please!

      If you call me and if I feel like talking to you, and I'm not busy, and I'm not doing something else I desire to do more than talk to you, I MIGHT answer it. Otherwise, leave a message (a specific one that says what you want) and I'll get back to you when all of the above conditions are met. Me carrying a cell phone is for MY convenience, NOT for yours! But people don't get this... they sit up and wag their tail like a trained dog when ever their cell phone makes a peep.

    48. Re:Humanity is lost by BennyX · · Score: 1

      Or.. you could unchain yourself from technology while you rake those leaves. Shocking concept, I know... you might *gasp!* miss something!!

    49. Re:Humanity is lost by ah.clem · · Score: 1

      That might explain the initial rush, but it utterly fails to explain why wristwatches became the de-facto standard for the next 90-odd years.

      I believe, based on what I've read about horology and popular culture is that after the very expensive Dumont was created, mass produced wrist watches were given to British WWI soldiers as part of their kit. Prior to WWI, wrist watches were considered a woman's accessory, the pocket watch still being the standard for the average man in the street. After the war, the wrist watch was seen as a manly accoutrement for the working classes and were manufactured in factories at a working man's price point. An interesting side note, many early "wrist watches" were simply pocket watches with a small framework silver-soldered onto the case and the cover removed (if it had one) leaving room for the winding stem (if the winding stem was at the 3, not the 12 position as in a Conductor's pocket watch). But again, just what I have read.

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    50. Re:Humanity is lost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have a very different usage pattern for a cell phone than I do. If I receive an unexpected call, it is almost certainly some sort of spam/telemarketer. If I receive a text message, it is almost certainly a real person communicating with me (which probably does not require an immediate response: if I were in the middle of a conversation, then my phone wouldn't be in my pocket).

    51. Re:Humanity is lost by cheesybagel · · Score: 1

      I just turn the damned phone off. You need to do it. Unless you are getting paid overtime DON'T answer calls outside business hours.

    52. Re:Humanity is lost by cheesybagel · · Score: 1

      Back rear pocket is bad for two reasons. One is that you get to sit on your wallet, credit cars and all, the second reason is that it is a lot easier to pickpocket you that way.

    53. Re:Humanity is lost by cheesybagel · · Score: 1

      Well it was smaller and more lightweight and did the same thing. Need more?

      Does not apply to smartphones vs smartwatches because of screen space.

    54. Re:Humanity is lost by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      Right. People buy Android smartwatches, and you're okay with that. People buy an Apple watch, and they are fools.

      You are arrogant to the max. Go spread your hate elsewhere.

      No, people buying a million apple watches day one because they're by apple are fools. A few of them will actually want one for a specific purpose or use, but the majority will want one because it's the latest apple gadget and it's some bling. never mind they will hardly use the fucking thing for much more than telling time or maybe reading the odd message or checking missed call. Most of the people deriding apple watch will deride any smartwatch in general but the various android models don't have a cult about them and sell to people who actually want them for something more than just having them.

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    55. Re:Humanity is lost by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      What's your point? Apple rarely competes on price. The bottom of the market is fiercely competitive and thus has razor thin margins. It's a terrible place to try to make money.

      So they make something no better, double the price and sell it to twats with more money than sense. That is the apple marketing plan alright.

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    56. Re:Humanity is lost by Eponymous+Coward · · Score: 1

      So they make something no better, double the price and sell it to twats with more money than sense. That is the apple marketing plan alright.

      If that's all there is to it, then why don't other companies follow the same playbook? Despite having a relatively small chunk of the total smartphone market, they make almost all the money. I believe Samsung is the only other smartphone maker that is profitable and their profit is much, much smaller than Apple's. All the rest of the handset makers are either losing money or just breaking even.

      Do you really think you know more about the phone business than the executives at Blackberry, Nokia, HTC, LG, and Sony?

    57. Re:Humanity is lost by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      There's something else to it. Somehow what apple have created is unique to them. Maybe they've figured out the perfect price points for the absolute maximum an average customer will pay and the exact minimum needed to have the air of exclusivity and 'betterness'. The only logical conclusion I can come to is Steve Jobs sold his soul, those of the marketing department and put a clause into the itunes t&c that gifts the users soul also. It's the only scenario in my mind that can explain what they've done.

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    58. Re:Humanity is lost by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      What about the millions of people who want other people to think they are douches? They need a douchewatch.

      It's called "Galaxy Gear" - Nothing says douche quite like "Look what a nice movie I made of you stalking you with my watch".

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    59. Re:Humanity is lost by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      I just turn the damned phone off. You need to do it. Unless you are getting paid overtime DON'T answer calls outside business hours.

      I just called to tell you you missed your fathers funeral because you refused to even see who was calling to inform you he died.

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    60. Re:Humanity is lost by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      Well it was smaller and more lightweight and did the same thing. Need more?

      Does not apply to smartphones vs smartwatches because of screen space.

      Can you make up your mind if a smaller or a larger display is better? Or is it "whatever Apple doesn't use"?

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    61. Re: Humanity is lost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, you are amazing... That magical ability to see into the minds of hundreds of thousands of people, knowing their thoughts, motivations, lives. And not only that, you can see their futures as well.
      Oh great and omnipotent, (elitist and arrogant) Swammy... You surely won't need one. You know everything it would tell you already.
      Of course hundreds of thousands of people are wrong wrong wrong, but there is now possibility that you are wrong. Couldn't happen.

  5. Smug Alert by BreakBad · · Score: 1
    1. Re:Smug Alert by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      There's an app for that.

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    2. Re:Smug Alert by jythie · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Question is, who is smuggiest.. the people buying Apple watches, or people saying they are too smart for that.

    3. Re:Smug Alert by nwf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Question is, who is smuggiest.

      Probably the people who post links to wikipedia or XKCD.

      I'm just tired of all the people who buy or don't buy things based on how they think other people will think about them. If you want one, get one. If you don't, don't. Who cares either way? I'm sure Apple is laughing all the way to the bank with their meager $500M in online sales in a single day.

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    4. Re:Smug Alert by fermion · · Score: 1
      My concern is that we might see a rise in muggings again. Like those white cords coming out of your ears that marked the wearer as a victim, we might see that a wearer or a the distinctive watch is a victim.

      Of course it will be a while before many people have a watch. Those who ordered in the first couple minutes will get it before May. Those who ordered in the first hour may get it by mid may. ten hours after the watch was on sale the shipment date was almost the end of June.

      So will we see retail sales for the watch before the end of summer? I think for the Watch Edition and other Watch that are far north of $100.

      It is interesting that most Watch sold are Sports model. Buying an expensive Watch now seems really silly. Spending $500 is smug and borderline senseless. This is not a device one is going to use for a generation. In the next two years the Watch that one might keep for a couple years will be on the market. One has to admit the electronics for this Watch is going to seem obsolete in 6 months. And you won't even be able to go the pawn shop and sell the gold for gold.

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    5. Re:Smug Alert by BreakBad · · Score: 1

      You must feel smug after such revolutionary proclamations.

    6. Re:Smug Alert by nwf · · Score: 1

      And you smug for pointing out meta-smugness.

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    7. Re:Smug Alert by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Spending $500 is smug and borderline senseless. This is not a device one is going to use for a generation.

      And yet we seem to think nothing of shelling out a couple grand every few years for a new laptop. Or 500-800 every few years for a smartphone. Or 500-1000 every couple years for a tablet.

      Face it: people spending $500 on a smart watch are not doing so because they expect it to last them "generations" - they're buying it because it's a fancy toy that they want, and they can afford it. Just like smartphones, tablets, and laptops. If you're buying a watch you intend to be an heirloom, you're paying upwards of $5,000 for it today. The expensive Apple watch is for people (celebrities) who want to have the most expensive version they can because it allows them to flaunt their wealth. But the people spending $300-600 on a watch? That's easily middle-class spending these days.

    8. Re:Smug Alert by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't like the idea of a "class system". With that being said...

      I agree, it's probably people watching to show their wealth or "status" in society. Don't women do this with jewelry? I think I read something like that, perhaps in a Slashdot post sometime back.

      Buy a laptop, tablet, and/or expensive phone every few years? Either the person is rich (or has enough disposable income), or the person is driving themselves into debt.

      Seems a bit wasteful, but you know what? We should have recycling programs required on such products so they don't end up as e-waste. I'd also like to see a warranty program on certain electronics... three years minimum with parts and labor... and a pay option for accidental damage. Date would probably go by first sale to the end user, so if it's resold, it still counts. Once the store sells it for the first time that is, maybe record the serial number in a database for record keeping.

    9. Re:Smug Alert by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      Question is, who is smuggiest.

      Probably the people who post links to wikipedia or XKCD.

      I'm just tired of all the people who buy or don't buy things based on how they think other people will think about them

      So your claim is that people pre-ordered the Apple Watch because they expected that millions of others would do so, and they didn't want to be looked down on?

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  6. I was certainly one of them. by nimbius · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'll admit i was originally apprehensive of getting out of bed at all today until i remembered, with the help of my scheduling butler, the arrival of apples newest wristwatch. Perusing my collection of rare finds from Rolex this morning in the yachts liesure room, as I certainly couldnt bare the shame of being seen in public without a standard timepiece, I chose to dress down as I'd be among the city folk today. Stepping off my yacht and into my helicopter, I could hardly contain my anticipation and as soon as I arrived and my driver was upon the tarmac, I made haste toward the perignon and reclined albeit only subtly in the hand stitched leater seating of the Bentley (im told the city people mostly confine themselves to Bentley and i shouldnt wish to casue a stir.) Finally, after what seemed an eternity of film and caviar I arrived at the Apple store, gazed longingly at the line, and tool delivery of my very own Apple watch from my travel liason. And wouldnt you know, theyre quite a steal at only ten thousand dollars.

    now ive heard tell of people saying theyre quite a bit more after "tax" but I assure you ive no concept of what that may be in relation to the product. Perhaps some unsavoury orientals have swindled you good folk, and purloined your earned cash for the song of this "tax."

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    1. Re:I was certainly one of them. by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      Dude, you almost had a perfect score .. but you needed to mention "Gray Poupon". ;-)

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    2. Re:I was certainly one of them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or at least a most interesting man alive quote.

    3. Re:I was certainly one of them. by simplypeachy · · Score: 1

      You are Kyril Bonfiglioli and I claim my five Jersey Pounds.

    4. Re:I was certainly one of them. by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1, Redundant

      Stepping off my yacht and into my helicopter,

      Your yacht isn't big enough to have a helipad? Come back when you've got some real money.

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    5. Re:I was certainly one of them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well, got my one-interesting-thing-learned task done for the day.

      thanks for killing my motivation.

    6. Re:I was certainly one of them. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He didn't say we stepped off his yacht and walked across something. He said he stepped off the yacht into the helicopter, so it seems he indeed does have a helipad!

  7. All people care about by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    are fancy gadgets, and letting people know they are wearing the latest.

    1. Re:All people care about by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      30 years ago it was about having a camaro or firebird or being the only kid in school with a beeper or cell phone

    2. Re:All people care about by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really? you think kids were walking around with beepers or cell phones 30 yrs. ago?

    3. Re:All people care about by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 1

      They most certainly had pagers and carphones were the ultimate status symbol in the early to mid-80s

    4. Re:All people care about by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He didn't say car phone. He said cell phone, and I knew didn't know ANY kids 30 years ago that had a car phone, or gave a shit about a pager. Nor were they referred to as "ultimate status symbols."

  8. Man not caring by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JODwetfioWA

  9. Who wears a watch these days by rossdee · · Score: 0, Troll

    I haven't worn a (wrist) watch for decades
    When you have to do frequent hand washing (in the last 35 years I have been employed in the meat industry, food industry, childcare and elder care) its not worth the hassle.
    Of course I gave up Apple in 1988

    1. Re:Who wears a watch these days by Feral+Nerd · · Score: 5, Informative

      I haven't worn a (wrist) watch for decades When you have to do frequent hand washing (in the last 35 years I have been employed in the meat industry, food industry, childcare and elder care) its not worth the hassle. Of course I gave up Apple in 1988

      I kept forgetting my cell phone so I decided to stop wearing a wrist watch and started to use the phone to keep track of time. Between chencking the time, receiving e-mails, SMS'es and phone calls, browsing the net, playing games or reading e-books when I'm bored it's been years since I left the house without me noticing I had forgotten the damn cellphone within a few minutes.

    2. Re:Who wears a watch these days by ledow · · Score: 2

      I wear a cheap, waterproof, digital, rubberised, lasts-forever watch that costs an absolute pittance. It shows time and date on the front screen, which is my biggest buying point of them.

      It gets in the way whenever I'm digging into a PC, so I take it off.

      My ex and my girlfriend tried, when they first met me, to buy me "nice" watches as expensive presents. I never wore either, but I did at least explain why.

      Sorry, a fancy watch is an old status-symbol. And whenever I do forget my watch, I just use my phone. I'd be a million times more lost without my phone than without my watch. Why I'd want my watch to talk to my phone, I can't fathom.

    3. Re:Who wears a watch these days by geekmux · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I haven't worn a (wrist) watch for decades When you have to do frequent hand washing (in the last 35 years I have been employed in the meat industry, food industry, childcare and elder care) its not worth the hassle. Of course I gave up Apple in 1988

      You likely represent the minority in your age bracket.

      The younger generation that never knew life without a smartphone, never understood the value of wearing a wristwatch.

      What will really blow your mind is that is now the same individual lining up to pay someone else $500 for the luxury of wearing one.

      Talk about brand power.

    4. Re:Who wears a watch these days by johnlcallaway · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Neither had I. Until last July, when my wife gave me an Android smartwatch for my birthday (suck it Apple ... you are not an innovator of smart watches).

      Since then, I've worn it every day. I know, what's the big deal about taking your phone out of your pocket.

      Well ...

      When your hands are covered with mortar dust, and your phone rings. it's pretty convenient.

      When you are expecting a call but want to go swimming, it's pretty nice to have a watch that's waterproof for swimming.

      When you are driving down the highway and want to get a picture of something, it's pretty convenient. (Oh wait .. the iWatch doesn't have a camera). And it's not distracted driving when all you have to do point your hand in the general direction, and say 'shoot'.

      When you want to shut off that damn alarm about turning off the pool equipment, and your phone is in the house.(Pool timer broke, so I direct wired it until I order another one.)

      When you don't have to carry your phone around the house all day in your pocket because if someone calls you, you can answer using your watch.

      When you need to set a timer to remind you to check the water boiling for tea, it's pretty convenient to not take the phone out of your pocket.

      When you can't find your phone and your watch can set off the ring tone.

      Oh .. and it tells the time too.

      Notice I didn't say anything about the fitness apps. I used them for awhile, then noticed that they really sucked down the battery. Then I realized that I don't need a watch to tell me how far I've walked today BECAUSE IT JUST ISN'T THAT FREAKIN IMPORTANT! My scale tells me every morning if I'm not exercising enough or eating too much.

      Is it worth $300? Depends on how much $300 is worth to you. I didn't think it was worth that much, but my wife felt it would make a great birthday present since I was always looking at it but refused to spend the money. Now that I've used it for 9 months, I'd say it was worth every dime. I've learned to discount anyone that says something isn't worth the money, because they only know whether or not it's worth it to them. And since they have never had one, they have no idea what they are talking about.

      If I had an Apple phone, I might buy the iWatch. It's definitely not enough to get me to switch from Android. (Has Apple innovated two windows on their iPads yet??? How about multiple users.) Mine has definitely been worth the $300. Isn't. that's cheaper than the iWatch? And it has a camera. And can use standard watch bands.

      But I won't be buying the latest Samsung phone either. Why would I buy a phone that I can't swap out the battery or use an SSD card.

      If I wanted that, I'd spend more money and buy an iPhone.

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    5. Re:Who wears a watch these days by serviscope_minor · · Score: 2

      When you need to set a timer to remind you to check the water boiling for tea, it's pretty convenient to not take the phone out of your pocket.

      I say this as an Englishman: er, what? My normal process for making the tea is:

      1. put slightly over a mug's worth of water in a kettle.
      2. switch on kettle
      3. fiddle with phone while kettle boils (about a minute).
      4. keep fiddling with phone because I'm only half way through a game of whatever by the time it's boiled.
      5. re-boil kettle because it went cold because I was fiddling with my phone for too long because the time to boil is too short.
      6. Fiddle with phone while kettle boils.
      7. goto 4: note this is generally an asymptotic series and generally converges at t < infinity
      8. pour water in cup.
      9. pour in the tiniest drop of milk
      10. extract tea bag.
      11. walk to wherever I was going to drink tea with phone in one hand and tea in the other, still playing the game because I'm not quite finished.
      12. spill hot tea on hand.
      13. curse.
      14. attempt to finish game.
      15. get tea on screen.
      16. screen doesn't work while wet so this usually ends the process.

      I'm not really sure where the reminder comes in, because the time taken to boil is so short. Plus it's obvious when it's done because a 3kw kettle is noisy as hell when it boils.

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    6. Re:Who wears a watch these days by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      When you are expecting a call but want to go swimming, it's pretty nice to have a watch that's waterproof for swimming. ...

      When you want to shut off that damn alarm about turning off the pool equipment, and your phone is in the house.(Pool timer broke, so I direct wired it until I order another one.) ...

      When you don't have to carry your phone around the house all day in your pocket because if someone calls you, you can answer using your watch. ...

      When you can't find your phone and your watch can set off the ring tone.

      What smart watch are you using that has enough range to work through multiple walls in your house, or under water with your phone by the pool side? All the ones I have seen are Bluetooth or wifi with tiny antennas and extremely, and thus very low range. They seem to be designed to work over a range of about 1m, i.e. from your pocket to your wrist.

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    7. Re:Who wears a watch these days by Bongo · · Score: 1

      I'm not really sure where the reminder comes in, because the time taken to boil is so short. Plus it's obvious when it's done because a 3kw kettle is noisy as hell when it boils.

      Between 9 and 10, apparently, as the boffins claim you have to steep for like, 4 mins or something, I forget, should be an app for that.

      (No reply necessary, IANATD, all I drink is coooooooffffffffeeeeeeee)

    8. Re:Who wears a watch these days by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

      Tea bag?

      Your Britishness permit is hereby revoked.

    9. Re:Who wears a watch these days by shilly · · Score: 1

      You don't know very much about Britain if you think the use of tea bags is unusual here. It's not Downton fucking Abbey you know.

    10. Re: Who wears a watch these days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wear a watch because it works well for letting people know you are bored or impatient. And now with smart features I can also use it to avoid eye contact on the bus without risking my phone getting grabbed!

      It will also work for me when timing my liquor store robberies, since I hold my gat gangsta style. What more could an entrepreneur like myself want?

    11. Re:Who wears a watch these days by rjstanford · · Score: 1

      As an expat living in the 'States, the only times that I miss 240V is boiling water and the fact that the flymo will never seem to exist over here. Mainly boiling water.

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    12. Re:Who wears a watch these days by rjstanford · · Score: 1

      Well, the Apple watch will happily chat to your phone anywhere its on the same wifi network, to bring the conversation back around to the subject at hand, so there's at least one (or 1 million) right there...

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    13. Re:Who wears a watch these days by Pieroxy · · Score: 1

      I kept forgetting my cell phone so I decided to stop wearing a wrist watch and started to use the phone to keep track of time. Between chencking the time, receiving e-mails, SMS'es and phone calls, browsing the net, playing games or reading e-books when I'm bored it's been years since I left the house without me noticing I had forgotten the damn cellphone within a few minutes.

      If your smartwatch has a feature that makes it beep when it's too far from your phone, you will never forget it again and you can resume wearing a watch.

    14. Re:Who wears a watch these days by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      As an expat living in the 'States, the only times that I miss 240V is boiling water and the fact that the flymo will never seem to exist over here. Mainly boiling water.

      You get batter high powered vacuum cleaners on 240V as well. That's about it, since there aren't many things which need more than 1600W from a wall socket.

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    15. Re:Who wears a watch these days by 0xdeaddead · · Score: 1

      Pretty sure they are going to flip the things.

      And this is what people are looking for

      http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-...

      The 1st gen firewire ipods in mint are worth at least 3k GBP and up.

      Don't think for a second hipsters give a shit about digital wrist watches. This isn't the 1980's and the vogons aren't about to attack

    16. Re:Who wears a watch these days by unami · · Score: 1

      i usually skip #10 - but instead of spilling tea on the screen my #15 is: forget to extract tea bag. 16. remember to extract tea bag after 10-15 minutes 17. get a taste of tea that has definitely gotten too strong 18. goto 1

    17. Re:Who wears a watch these days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'm a runner and I just got a Garmin "vivoactive" GPS watch, to replace my Garmin 910. It's a definitely focused on sport and fitness tracking, which is why I got it, but the smartwatch features are fun and I actually wear it daily because it's fun. It's got widgets and apps and stuff too; I'm sure it'll never have as many developers targeting it as the Apple watch, but if I want to do some hobby stuff I can.

      I wouldn't compare it directly with the Apple watch for several major reasons:
      1) The screen is a backlit color LCD. It's never going to be as pretty as the Apple watch ... however it looks pretty good and it gets a lot better battery life. I've only had it a couple weeks but I can easily go most of week between charges, depending how much running I do as GPS is the biggest drain. Garmin claims 3 weeks of battery if you aren't using GPS but that's probably a stretch.
      2) This has GPS built in, so I don't have to carry my phone with me when I run. This is a big deal for me, but probably not for everyone.

      And it only costs $250 which is really good for GPS watches for the features it has. I recommend it if you're interested in any combination of smartwatch / GPS watch / fitness tracker.

    18. Re:Who wears a watch these days by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 1

      Amplifiers that go up to 11?

    19. Re:Who wears a watch these days by plasm4 · · Score: 1

      When I moved to Britain a few years ago that was the thing that surprised me most. I think it must be a common misconception that Americans have about Brits. I always thought it was just us uncultured Americans that used tea bags and that you guys knew better. It was a similar situation with butter and margarine.

    20. Re:Who wears a watch these days by gtall · · Score: 1

      Yes, but if they flip 1 million watches, Apple has still sold 1 million watches.

    21. Re:Who wears a watch these days by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 1
      the vogons aren't about to attack

      Damn - I was stock piling bottled water and Spam for nothing!

      Please Sir, can the Darleks attack instead? (As in SCO)

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    22. Re:Who wears a watch these days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah the old passive-aggressive smugness Brits have about being able to run a 3kW appliance from a standard kitchen outlet. It might take me a couple more minutes to boil a cup of water, but at least I have a better chance than you of surviving if I stick a couple of forks in outlet. (Disclaimer: survival of fork-related electric shock is not guaranteed.)

      And don't give me that "we mandated safety shutters in 1947 and therefore cannot insert forks into outlets to repeat the experiment" crap. Or that "why the hell are you going around sticking forks in outlets, you moron" crap.

    23. Re:Who wears a watch these days by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      I have a better chance than you of surviving if I stick a couple of forks in outlet. (Disclaimer: survival of fork-related electric shock is not guaranteed.)

      And don't give me that "we mandated safety shutters in 1947 and therefore cannot insert forks into outlets to repeat the experiment" crap. Or that "why the hell are you going around sticking forks in outlets, you moron" crap.

      OK, but seriously why the hell ARE you sticking forks in the outlets?

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    24. Re:Who wears a watch these days by Jahoda · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Much like a nice pair of off-the-rack-yet-properly-fitted slacks, a shirt correctly sized, and a decent pair of clean shoes, a modest watch says a lot about you as a grown man both professionally and personally. It's telling to me that several women have tried to steer you towards this, and yet you've disregarded them because for you it's part of some "status symbol" thing. No dude, it just means you're a grown man who knows how to take care of himself and takes a degree of pride in himself and appearance.

    25. Re:Who wears a watch these days by zieroh · · Score: 1

      When you have to do frequent hand washing (in the last 35 years I have been employed in the meat industry, food industry, childcare and elder care

      Good point. Clearly, this device isn't suitable for anyone in any of those professions, so it should probably not be allowed to exist.

      Wait, so you put your clean hand in your dirty pocket and then touch meat with that now-filthy hand? Or do you touch meat and then put your filthy hand in your pocket? Either way, ewwww.

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    26. Re:Who wears a watch these days by macs4all · · Score: 1

      Neither had I. Until last July, when my wife gave me an Android smartwatch for my birthday (suck it Apple ... you are not an innovator of smart watches).

      It's actually very funny when a Fandroid accuses Apple of not inventing something; because, since they ripped-off the entire concept of the original iPhone, ya know...

      I trust everyone around here remembers that; or do I have to whip out the citations, Google internal memos, and the before and after pictures (yet again)?

    27. Re:Who wears a watch these days by BasilBrush · · Score: 5, Insightful

      8. pour water in cup.
      9. pour in the tiniest drop of milk
      10. extract tea bag.

      You're not an Englishman, you're an animal.

      Those steps should read:
      pour water in cup.
      wait for 4 minutes.
      extract tea bag.
      add milk.

      Only an animal lets the milk and the teabag meet. And an Englishman lets the tea brew. What you have there is slightly milky water with a bit of brown dye in it.

    28. Re:Who wears a watch these days by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      My Pebble works throughout my house. It's a 2400 square foot two-story, and when I'm cleaning the car, working on a bike, or gardening - I tend to leave the phone on the fireplace mantle (near the middle of the house). My Pebble maintains connection with it, no problem. When a call comes in, I know if I need to clean up and go call back, or can just ignore it for later.

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    29. Re:Who wears a watch these days by Cederic · · Score: 1

      He must be from down south.

      Although I can't criticise, I drink coffee..

    30. Re:Who wears a watch these days by shilly · · Score: 1

      I reckon 70%+ of tea-drinking Brits have never had loose leaf tea.

    31. Re:Who wears a watch these days by jo_ham · · Score: 1

      I wear a watch all the time. I don;t want an Appel smart watch, but I do wear an analogue watch made of metal.

      I also wash my hands frequently (I work in a lab).

      Oh sorry, I forgot that everyone on earth has the same needs as you. My mistake.

    32. Re:Who wears a watch these days by geoskd · · Score: 1

      Yes, but if they flip 1 million watches, Apple has still sold 1 million watches.

      The first million are the lowest profit margin. Just ask Balmer how that works, and He'll tell you all about the Surface Pro...

      Its the second through 10th million where the real profits are. If apple builds two million, and never sells the second million, they take a bath, write them off and walk away a billion poorer ( and wiser ).

      I'm torn. I can genuinely appreciate Apple's ability to see use cases that I can't / haven't, but I'm curious to see how people plan to use these that will make them that popular. I personally think its more likely to be the scalpers that are trying to make a quick buck on the assumption that the demand will far outstrip the supply (the way it usually does for apple product launches). If that’s the case, I'll have little sympathy for either Apple or the scalpers. If its not, then I will congratulate Apple on its first post Jobs success.

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    33. Re:Who wears a watch these days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haha, you're a loser. I'm very concerned that you feel the need to "whip out" stupid articles about a stupid topic. Fortunately it means you probably aren't able to "whip out" anything more useful and pollute the gene pool.

    34. Re:Who wears a watch these days by H0p313ss · · Score: 1

      No true Englishman would use a teabag.

      Barbarians.

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    35. Re:Who wears a watch these days by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      And yet every household has a tea strainer just in case the queen comes to visit or something.

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    36. Re:Who wears a watch these days by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      Oh got I hate mildly brown water. Actually I barbarically agitate the teabag because I'm impatient. One place I used to work had a good, old fashioned tea urn. They just chucked in bags and water and plugged it into the wall. I think you could use it to degrease engines, though it was fed to engineers. Good stuff!

      As another poster deduced, yes, I am indeed from down south.

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    37. Re:Who wears a watch these days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No man, you don't understand. He's fighting the man by refusing to engage in the "1%-er" status symbol rat race.

    38. Re:Who wears a watch these days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No self-respecting southerner would do that either.

      OR eat instant grits.

    39. Re:Who wears a watch these days by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wait for 4 minutes.

      I thought we were making tea not stew!

    40. Re:Who wears a watch these days by johnlcallaway · · Score: 1

      It's not a timer for the boil. It's a timer to help me to remember I put the damn pot on to boil so I don't run it dry.

      And it's not a cup. It's a quart. I'm making iced tea. If I make hot tea, I nuke it.

      And I use loose leaf tea, it's so much better than bagged tea.

      And all it takes is to tap my watch once to select the timer, and once again to start it, since it's almost always set to 4.5 minutes. My wife and I drink a pitcher of tea a day on the weekends when doing yard work, and another pitcher or two the rest of the week. (I live in Phoenix, it's really dry here. And I'm probably outside doing something all year round. What can I say, I enjoy doing yard work on the weekend.)

      Then exactly 4.5 minutes to steep. Another timer, but this is more important as too long makes the tea bitter. And it's the same as the timer I just used to boil water.

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    41. Re:Who wears a watch these days by johnlcallaway · · Score: 1

      I have a Samsung 4 watch and a Samsung Gear 2. My phone is usually in the living room if I'm just running around the house, so it has to pass through one wall if I'm out back, 2 if I'm out front. There are windows, I don't know how much that makes a difference And it's stated to be waterproof for 30 minutes. I'm rarely in the pool for more than 10 (do yard work, get hot, jump in the pool, relax, get out, repeat), but between the hot tub and pool, I'd say the claim is pretty good.

      I've found the range to be about 40ft. through the house, I have no idea line-of-sight.

      But, if I know I'm going to be outside for awhile, I take the phone out with me and the range easily covers the back yard. It's a Phoenix back yard, so it's not too big.

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    42. Re:Who wears a watch these days by johnlcallaway · · Score: 1

      Apple didn't invent the smartphone, they added a slick case and a few additional features that existing phones already had. At most, it was an incremental improvement in functionality wrapped up in a slick marketing campaign. Then they locked their customer base to their store, which was fine with all the iSheeple. Things like the pinch-to-zoom were already developed and in use by other tools before Apple used it and people went gah-gah over it. Apple simply took existing ideas, wrapped then in a phone, and make the world think they invented the concepts.

      To be clear, I didn't suggest Samsung invent the smart watch either. I only mentioned all of the things existing smart watches can do because some pooh-pooh the idea, and that Apple is very late to the game. Because Apple's commercials make it sound like they invented the damn thing. And so does much of the media coverage.

      Just as Apple didn't invent the desktop computer, or the portable music player, or a host of other things they act like they were the first company to actually create.

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    43. Re:Who wears a watch these days by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      I haven't worn a (wrist) watch for decades When you have to do frequent hand washing (in the last 35 years I have been employed in the meat industry, food industry, childcare and elder care) its not worth the hassle.

      So you work in any of those industries and pull out your phone when you want to check the time as is always claimed?

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    44. Re:Who wears a watch these days by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      I have a better chance than you of surviving if I stick a couple of forks in outlet. (Disclaimer: survival of fork-related electric shock is not guaranteed.)

      And don't give me that "we mandated safety shutters in 1947 and therefore cannot insert forks into outlets to repeat the experiment" crap. Or that "why the hell are you going around sticking forks in outlets, you moron" crap.

      OK, but seriously why the hell ARE you sticking forks in the outlets?

      Because as a Free American he fucking can. No government nor common sense can stop him.

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    45. Re:Who wears a watch these days by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      Apple didn't invent the smartphone, they added a slick case and a few additional features that existing phones already had. At most, it was an incremental improvement in functionality wrapped up in a slick marketing campaign.

      They removed all those "necessary" buttons everybody all of a sudden can live without. You're welcome Fandroidcheaple.

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    46. Re:Who wears a watch these days by shilly · · Score: 1

      And a set of best china too. And gloves for the laydeez.

  10. flippers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    Come on, most of these are being snapped up by ebay traders, hoping to restrict the supply to make a profit from the new product.

    1. Re:flippers by macs4all · · Score: 1

      Come on, most of these are being snapped up by ebay traders, hoping to restrict the supply to make a profit from the new product.

      A million eBay traders; riiiiiiiight.

    2. Re:flippers by Powercntrl · · Score: 1

      A million eBay traders; riiiiiiiight.

      The people who make moronic comments about flipping hard-to-get gadgets on eBay have clearly never sold on eBay. Very often, the winning bidder turns out to be a non-paying deadbeat or a scammer, and then you're stuck waiting a few days on eBay to refund your end-of-sale & listing fees or arguing with PayPal. Even if you manage a successful sale, eBay takes 10% and PayPal takes somewhere around 2.9%.

      As the Apple Watch comes in more combinations than a bag of mixed nuts, I doubt there's as much flipping potential as say, a phone that's only available in 3 different colors.

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  11. And watch makers everywhere sighed. by allaunjsilverfox2 · · Score: 0

    If I were a watch maker, let alone a person who repaired watches, I'd be cringing. This is like someone putting a tube transistor radio into my car dash. Both unnecessary and anachronistic.

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    1. Re:And watch makers everywhere sighed. by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Funny

      News flash..... Digital watches have existed for decades, Hipsters have been cringing for a long time now about them and lamenting about how the mechanical movements are far superior and make their records sound better.

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    2. Re:And watch makers everywhere sighed. by Zembar · · Score: 1

      Yes, because the mechanical wind-up machines carried on people's wrists are certainly not the anachronisms in this case... Wait, what?

    3. Re:And watch makers everywhere sighed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      News flash..... Digital watches have existed for decades, Hipsters have been cringing for a long time now about them and lamenting about how the mechanical movements are far superior and make their records sound better.

      What's more is the "analog" watch you have is probably a quartz movement anyway. A real mechanical watch is a thing of beauty and generally out of the price range most people set for watches.

    4. Re:And watch makers everywhere sighed. by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      Digital watches have existed for decades, Hipsters have been cringing for a long time now about them and lamenting about how the mechanical movements are far superior and make their records sound better.

      Depends on the hipsters. The lord-of-the-rings beard, skinny trousers, no socks and a pipe style hipsters which populate East London very much like the fancy versions of the casio terrorist watch, which are basically the same innards in a metal case, possibly gold coated.

      Actually not that there's anything wrong with that, it's a rock solid watch, small, light, cheap, near indestrutable and in a case which isn't quite so plasticy.

      Even so, it looks more genuine if you where one while on your fixie bike.

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    5. Re:And watch makers everywhere sighed. by ArcadeMan · · Score: 2

      Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the Western Spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small unregarded yellow sun.

      Orbiting this at a distance of roughly ninety-two million miles is an utterly insignificant little blue green planet whose ape-descended life forms are so amazingly primitive that they still think digital watches are a pretty neat idea.

    6. Re:And watch makers everywhere sighed. by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 1

      they don't make 'tube transistors' anymore, but I could probably find some resistifiers and capacitators inside the usual china-made electronics gear of today.

      maybe the occasional transistorators, as well, even though they are starting to become rare as chen's teeth.

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    7. Re:And watch makers everywhere sighed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, maybe not. Most of the iPhone users I know do not even own a watch. If they start buying Apple watches,they are not sales lost to other watchmakers. Potentially, they may make wearing watches hip again, which could boost sales of watches other than those by Apple.

    8. Re:And watch makers everywhere sighed. by DutchUncle · · Score: 2

      Just wait until Apple comes out with a digital towel.

    9. Re:And watch makers everywhere sighed. by Dragonslicer · · Score: 1

      If I were a watch maker, let alone a person who repaired watches, I'd be cringing.

      Then again, based on the number of almost completely destroyed iPhone screens I see, the Apple Watch could be a huge boon to companies that sell insurance and do screen repairs.

    10. Re:And watch makers everywhere sighed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why?
      The Apple Watch is big and clunky, and it really doesn't do all that much.

      It only appeals to a niche market which isn't all that big when it comes to the world's watch wearers.

      To me it looks like a big bump in sales by early adopters and "those people who buy things like this" and that is it.

      Personally, I have always worn a watch, don't care about the latest fashion fad, and have always gone for thin, light, and accurate.

      Lets talk about this twelve months from now and see what the market says.

    11. Re:And watch makers everywhere sighed. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey you, sass that hoopy Ford Prefect? There's a frood who really knows where his towel is!

    12. Re:And watch makers everywhere sighed. by Cederic · · Score: 1

      generally out of the price range most people set for watches

      What, £42? http://www.watchshop.com/Mecha...

      Highly complicated mechanical watches and mechanical chronographs range in price from 'expensive' to 'my lifetime earnings', but basic clockwork is affordable.

    13. Re:And watch makers everywhere sighed. by Cederic · · Score: 1

      Not transistors, but definitely tubes:
      http://www.cathodecorner.com/n...

      Note the excellent quote from Slashdot :)

    14. Re:And watch makers everywhere sighed. by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      The lines for the iTowel will be around the block.

      The non stop whining from the Google Towel fans will clog up news feeds for months.

      Quietly, a small segment of the population will point out.... the iTowel and the google Towel will not dry you off.

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    15. Re:And watch makers everywhere sighed. by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      News flash..... Digital watches have existed for decades, Hipsters have been cringing for a long time now about them and lamenting about how the mechanical movements are far superior and make their records sound better.

      That's why all hipsters have a Rolex and a Samsung phone. No Apple products, that's not for hipsters.

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    16. Re:And watch makers everywhere sighed. by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      generally out of the price range most people set for watches

      What, £42? http://www.watchshop.com/Mecha...

      Highly complicated mechanical watches and mechanical chronographs range in price from 'expensive' to 'my lifetime earnings', but basic clockwork is affordable.

      If you don't mind your watch being off half a minute or so per week.

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    17. Re:And watch makers everywhere sighed. by Cederic · · Score: 1

      To be fair, if you do you should probably just go quartz :)

  12. The Emperor's New Watch by jsepeta · · Score: 1

    It still has to be proven to me that the watch does something valuable. I stopped wearing watches over a decade ago.

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    1. Re:The Emperor's New Watch by dimeglio · · Score: 1

      I think they are simply an extension to your smartphone (in this case your iPhone). If you don't use your smartphone that much, then you obviously will not need a smartwatch like Apple's. What's also interesting is that many smartwatches also include bio/health monitors. Something your smartphone can't do on its own.

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    2. Re:The Emperor's New Watch by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      They don't need to prove anything to you when they get 1 million sales on the first day in a single country.

    3. Re:The Emperor's New Watch by jo_ham · · Score: 1

      It still has to be proven to me that the bus does something valuable. I stopped riding the bus over a decade ago.

  13. But nobody buys apple.... by Lumpy · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    How can all the android Fanboys be Wrong?????

    It has to be a conspiracy and made up news, Apple sold only 2 of them.... Yeah.... That will make the fanboys happy...

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    1. Re:But nobody buys apple.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I might be impressed if I didn't picture you wear an ascot and fedora while spouting that drivel.

    2. Re:But nobody buys apple.... by dimeglio · · Score: 1

      Competing against Apple isn't just about the product but it's the entire experience. So far Samsung has tried but so far is not making money.

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    3. Re:But nobody buys apple.... by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      You missed the post above you where someone claimed all of them were purchased by people planning to resell on eBay for higher prices by restricting availability.

      Completely shocking that it was posted anonymously.

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    4. Re:But nobody buys apple.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      His point is Android fanbois are retards, because they ignore that apple is a major driving force that will decimate the competition. (Not a good thing, BTW)

      And he is correct.

      Honestly the only successful smartwatch has been the Pebble. Samsung, Motorola and LG all failed miserably compared to the pebble. Many of us are very confused why Apple put out an inferior watch that has the same problems that the Samsung and Motorola watches have, really crappy battery life. This AppleWatch may actually be the first cracks in the juggernaut that is apple.

    5. Re:But nobody buys apple.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Samsung sells 100,000 watches. On Slashdot: "What an amazing, revolutionary smash hit for poor Samsung, the beleaguered underdog of the tech industry. Surely this indicates a looming surge in profits!"

      Pebble sells 400,000 watches. On Slashdot: "This is the only successful smartwatch, because I can wear it 24x7!"

      Apple sells 1 million watches. On Slashdot: "This may be the first cracks in the juggernaut that is apple, it's inferior crap!"

      Clearly, the opinions offered by random twats on Slashdot are unbiased, clear-sighted, and prescient.

  14. Good by meta-monkey · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I can think of several applications I'd have for a smart watch, but I don't think any of the current offerings meet my needs in terms of build quality or battery life. But if millions of people start wearing apple watches, investments into the technology will be made and in a few years there'll be a cheap, high-quality Android watch for me to buy.

    So, thank you early adopters.

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    1. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bingo. Before the iPhone, I'd have to pay $600 to $1200.00 (yes, quad digits) for a good smartphone... and that was on a two year T-Mobile plan.

      After, I can get a decent smartphone that does all the general apps, unlocked, for well under a C-note.

      Same with watches. Let the beard oil and acoustic guitar crowd go after the Apple Watch. I'm going to sit back, enjoy the show, then in about a year or two, pick up a kick-ass Android watch that is rootable, made out of decent materials, and has the health sensors that were cut out of the Apple Watch, all for a lot less cash.

    2. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What do you miss in the Pebble Time?

    3. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      build quality or battery life

      . Indeed. I'll consider a smart watch when it doesn't need to be charged and gets all its power via energy harvesting. I hope that that would also mean that it could be sealed properly.

    4. Re:Good by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Care to enumerate some of those applications?

      The only thing I can really think of is heart rate monitoring, and maybe as a pedometer. Beyond that using my phone is no hassle, and I already disabled most of the notifications anyway.

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    5. Re:Good by slazzy · · Score: 1

      Great point. I can see wanting a smart watch someday, but not until the size and price are both much lower than today and the functionality is about 10x greater. Thanks to early adoptors pumping in money, it won't take long.

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    6. Re:Good by meta-monkey · · Score: 1

      I like the idea of not needing to unlock my phone if I'm wearing my watch. For security purposes, this could be easily disabled.

      On the paranoid front, I'd like to develop an app that listens for a code phrase (perhaps "what seems to be the problem, officer?") and takes a series of actions on my phone. These could include:

      1. shredding certain documents
      2. presenting a "false front" view of documents, messages, call logs, etc, to anyone who looks at the phone.
      3. sending alerts to friends/family
      4. turns on covert audio and video recording and streaming upload

      I'm also big on to-do lists. If I don't have a list and can make a game out of checking things off, I don't do it. So I'd like to integrate my to-do list phone app with a watch so I can see at a glance what I'm doing and check it off. Also useful for, perhaps, keeping track of medications.

      I'm sure I'll think of others, and of course I'm not saying any of these things are INCREDIBLY VITAL KILLER APPS I MUST HAVE, but it would be fun to play around with. I'm a geek...that's what I do...

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    7. Re:Good by meta-monkey · · Score: 1

      To my knowledge, Pebble is not Android. It's their own system with their own SDK, and I would rather develop within the Android ecosystem.

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    8. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What do you miss in the Pebble Time?

      How about 1 million users?

    9. Re:Good by iluvcapra · · Score: 1

      1) Sometimes I need a timecode stopwatch, and it's distracting to use the phone in screenings.

      2) I do like the idea of discreet notifications.

      3) I usually wear a Fossil on dates and when I meet clients but, typically for a man's watch, it's very blocky and it doesn't really work under a sport jacket or french cuffs, which I like to wear. Something like an Apple Watch has a cleaner look, but it's still a smartwatch so it projects sophistication. It's really the only piece of jewelry a man can pull off in professional situations, except for maybe cufflinks and a wedding band.

      Understand, this thing is being sold primarily as jewelry. It's a kewl smartwatch too, but the smartwatch features are necessary, not sufficient.

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    10. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. Even if you don't like apple, you have to admit touch displays got infinitely better over the last several years due to Apple forcing competition. I'd be in at around $100 to $150, depending on the choice of bands. At $400 for a big one with a plastic band? I'll wait.

      I don't see all the apple bashing on the thread except it makes people feel better.

      The next few years are going to be interesting . . . or not. One thing apple IS doing here, is going to force the market to explore this concept, because they're doing it. Everyone's going to hop in bed with the concept on the manufacturing side now, from high-end to low-end products. So if the technology is worthwhile, then this is the best chance it has to thrive. This is really the ONLY free market that exists anymore.

    11. Re:Good by shadowrat · · Score: 1

      As long as we're just fantasizing, I can imagine some killer usecases. The problem is the device would need to be extremely waterproof and capable of operating without a phone to be useful. I like sailing and surfing. It would be great to have a concise tide table app, and something to track the starting horns in racing. if i could get a text message from my wife out in the waves, that would be cool. Heck, tides and start timing don't even need connectivity. if the thing was just super waterproof and i felt like I could take it surfing, i'd probably be on board.

      currently my $12 casio watch gives me a stopwatch and tide information. it's good enough, but i would certainly spend the $400 on something that was more than just a glorified phone remote.

    12. Re:Good by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      The timecode thing is one of the few genuine uses I've come across for a smartwatch. Never thought of that.

      As for looking cleaner and less blocky... Have you seen one? They are not exactly compact, and the look pretty ugly. Not as nice as the LG and Motorola watches, which cost a fraction as much. If it's jewellery, there are better options IMHO.

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    13. Re:Good by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      On the paranoid front, I'd like to develop an app that listens for a code phrase (perhaps "what seems to be the problem, officer?") and takes a series of actions on my phone. These could include:

      1. shredding certain documents
      2. presenting a "false front" view of documents, messages, call logs, etc, to anyone who looks at the phone.
      3. sending alerts to friends/family
      4. turns on covert audio and video recording and streaming upload

      I'm going to say "what seems to be the problem, officer" to every iWatch wearer I meet :-)

      Seriously though, you can do this with Android smart watches, or with a Bluetooth panic button. Just use an app like Tasker to set up the actions and the trigger.

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    14. Re: Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The round LG is about $50 cheaper and it looks like a nice $100 watch. Which is problematic since it costs $300.

      I think when it comes to pricing these wearable things out, Apple has the right idea in that the functionality is there but it's redundant to the value proposition. The value of the watch is its value as jewlery. That it is useful is nice but even a cheap smart watch is still going to cost over $200, and for that if better get something that looks as good as a $200 chronograph.

    15. Re:Good by meta-monkey · · Score: 1

      I wonder if eventually the radio could be put in the watch. Then a watch could actually replace a phone. You'd use a bluetooth earpiece to make and receive calls. While yes, we're still constantly fighting the battery battle on the phone front, I would think a watch phone could get by with lower battery capacity than a smartphone since you wouldn't be looking at web pages and playing games on it.

      Otherwise, as it stands, you can use a smart watch without a phone. Just that since it has no connectivity there isn't much you can do with it. You could still program your table app into a watch and use it without a phone. But yeah, I don't think sealing is anywhere near where you would want it, and I don't see that happening without advances is wireless charging.

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    16. Re:Good by iluvcapra · · Score: 1

      Sorry this was me, I didn't realize I wasn't logged in:

      The round LG is about $50 cheaper and it looks like a nice $100 watch. Which is problematic since it costs $300.

      I think when it comes to pricing these wearable things out, Apple has the right idea in that the functionality is there but it's redundant to the value proposition. The value of the watch is its value as jewlery. That it is useful is nice but even a cheap smart watch is still going to cost over $200, and for that if better get something that looks as good as a $200 chronograph.

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    17. Re:Good by Cederic · · Score: 1

      No reason an inductive charging watch couldn't be properly sealed.

      Although yes, would be lovely to get a combination of rotor and solar panel to keep a smart watch fully operational indefinitely.

    18. Re:Good by Cederic · · Score: 1

      Something like an Apple Watch has a cleaner look, but it's still a smartwatch so it projects sophistication. It's really the only piece of jewelry a man can pull off in professional situations, except for maybe cufflinks and a wedding band.

      A whole section of the luxury watch market caters to that need, and looks a whole lot more sophisticated than a smartwatch.

      You can get some very slim mechanical watches, let alone the quartz options in the "elegant and built from nice materials" range.

    19. Re:Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Care to enumerate some of those applications?

      The only thing I can really think of is heart rate monitoring, and maybe as a pedometer. Beyond that using my phone is no hassle, and I already disabled most of the notifications anyway.

      I think a watch would be more convenient for home automation stuff, like Nest, or those programmable lights for example.
      Or those smart locks that can use your phone as a token, if they could use your watch instead, bonus.
      Actually anywhere your phone is used as a token of any sort, like payment systems, a watch would be more convenient.

      Universal remote control someday? After using a BT remote with a PS3 for a while, aiming over something on the coffee table with an IR remote feels like the stone age.

      Also, nobody would think a thermostat is too much hassle until they turn the AC on from their nightstand once, then it feels archaic as walking to the TV to change the channel.

    20. Re:Good by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      As for looking cleaner and less blocky... Have you seen one? They are not exactly compact, and the look pretty ugly. Not as nice as the LG and Motorola watches, which cost a fraction as much. If it's jewellery, there are better options IMHO.

      Errm, those Android watches are almost all way blockier than even the large Apple Watch. Even the round ones. http://9to5mac.com/2015/03/12/look-how-much-sleeker-apple-watch-is-compared-to-android-wear-watches/

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    21. Re: Good by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 1

      The round LG is about $50 cheaper and it looks like a nice $100 watch. Which is problematic since it costs $300.

      I especially like the functionless bezel on the G Watch R - nothing says like "sophisticated" like a watch that has a upside-down "30" printed below the face, All the time, even when not using an analog face. Just in case you forget that the 30 minute/second mark is on the 6.

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  15. I do by registrations_suck · · Score: 1

    I wear a watch daily. Sometimes I like to know what time it is. Not everyone carries a phone with them everywhere they go. Not everyone works in the meat, food or child industries. I have no desire for an Apple watch (especially since they don't make a left-handed one) - or even a digitial watch (I wear a Seiko Big Boss, https://watchpage.wordpress.co...), but I see no denigrate those who do. Hell, I have AAPL stock. I'll be happy if everyone on the planet buys an Apple watch.

    1. Re:I do by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      I have no desire for an Apple watch (especially since they don't make a left-handed one)

      If I remember the Keynote correctly, right-handed/left-handed is available in the settings.

    2. Re:I do by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1

      especially since they don't make a left-handed one

      I'm left-handed and wear my watch on the right. As a result I've always had the crown on the wrong side. But if you flip around the Apple watch it handles it properly. So if I get one it will be the first watch I've owned with the crown on the proper side.

    3. Re:I do by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can flip it upside down, but then the "knob" will be on the lower half of the watch, instead of the upper half when worn the other way. In other words, it is not symmetrical.

    4. Re:I do by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      especially since they don't make a left-handed one

      Doh!

      http://www.iclarified.com/4377...

  16. Stop spending money on ads, then by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why are they trying to drum up demand when they are obviously overwhelmed with demand, can't make nearly enough of the damned things after 6 months or more of round-the-clock production? Maybe it TAKES a month to make one..

    1. Re:Stop spending money on ads, then by wjcofkc · · Score: 1

      Why are they trying to drum up demand when they are obviously overwhelmed with demand,can't make nearly enough of the damned things after 6 months or more of round-the-clock production?

      I think that's kind of the whole point. I mean we are here talking about it after all. I think there is an economic term for the practice, anyone care to enlighten?

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    2. Re:Stop spending money on ads, then by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      Yeah, because companies hate it when the press continually talks about how their new product is so successful that they can't keep up with demand for weeks on end, and the notion of "it's so good that hundreds of thousands of people are willing to wait weeks for delivery" absolutely doesn't get other people to take another look at the product and / or get in line themselves.

      See: Christmas launches of set-top gaming consoles.

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  17. Okay, Cupertino, we've had a problem here! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    -Okay, Cupertino, we've had a problem here.
    -This is Cupertino. Say again please.
    -Cupertino, we've had a problem. With the LGBTs being about the 3% of the total population in USA and the pre-orders only 1 million...

  18. Why? Why God why????? by gatkinso · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Apple has somehow tapped into the lemming instinct.

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  19. the superbowl of stupidity by slashmydots · · Score: 3, Informative

    Smartwatches were the #1 most returned tech item of 2014. Some models were as much as 60% returned! They're absolutely despised by anyone who has used one. I'm one of newegg's product testers and I tested the 2nd generation of Samsung smartwatches. I and everyone gave it a horrible review then I sold it. But this time around, it's Apple fans buying the product. So who will win in this epic battle of Apple false superiority and arrogant smugness versus the strong urge to return their useless, annoying product.

    1. Re:the superbowl of stupidity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you went in on a bad product, which turned out to be bad, so you sold it... so every other product in the category must be bad too?

      Because the Motorola Q sucked in 2006, does that mean that every smartphone that comes after it sucks too, and always will?

    2. Re:the superbowl of stupidity by quantaman · · Score: 2

      Smartwatches were the #1 most returned tech item of 2014. Some models were as much as 60% returned! They're absolutely despised by anyone who has used one. I'm one of newegg's product testers and I tested the 2nd generation of Samsung smartwatches. I and everyone gave it a horrible review then I sold it. But this time around, it's Apple fans buying the product. So who will win in this epic battle of Apple false superiority and arrogant smugness versus the strong urge to return their useless, annoying product.

      Possibly though I'll hand it to Apple that they've had a fairly decent track record in figuring out products that people will actually use.

      Outside of a fancy running watch I'm not sure what a smart watch is good for, then again I wasn't sure what a tablet was good for either.

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    3. Re:the superbowl of stupidity by shadowrat · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I played with the watch over the weekend. I was suprised by how lackluster the experience was. Navigating the interface is surprisingly tedious, and I found myself lost on some screens with no clear idea of how to get out of them. The screen looks good, but it's so tiny. I doubt that it's useful. The maps app can show you that you are on a street, but you will spend so much time squinting and fiddling that i'm certain you just wasted all the time you saved not pulling your phone out from your pocket.

      I did think it looked pretty good though. The previous smartwatches i've seen like the early samsungs and the pebbles look like clunky plastic crap. I'd go so far as saying that apple's could be fashionable. That's not entirely a use case without merit. If someone said their reason for blowing $400 on the watch was because they thought it was fashionable, i'd have a lot more respect for them than if they made up stories about how useful it was.

    4. Re:the superbowl of stupidity by slashmydots · · Score: 1

      That's not good at all. Apple used to be known for ease of use without reading the manual but now with the latest iCloud and Apple account issues and lack of compatibility with micro-SD cards or direct USB transfer of anything ever, they're losing it. It sounds like this product has gone completely off the cliff when it comes to ease of figuring out the UI. That's very bad.

    5. Re:the superbowl of stupidity by shadowrat · · Score: 1

      I remember the experience of seeing the first iphones. At the time a lot of people, myself included, said, "it's not capable of anything my current phone doesn't already do"

      we had to eat those words. the device clearly was far better at stuff. it was too expensive, but clearly had a wonderous display and interface.

      when the ipad came around, i felt like i had to at least acknowledge that even though i had a phone, the big interface was kind of a novel experience. those previous devices always left me feeling like, "omg! i could make use of that."

      This thing just doesn't have that. it feels like ios was forced onto something just to prove it could be done rather than because it works well. It's a piece of ios jewelry. There's nothing really wrong with that though.

    6. Re:the superbowl of stupidity by jo_ham · · Score: 1

      You mean Android smart watches right?

      There's a reason for that - the early ones were alpha-quality (especially Samsung's) since they rushed them to market long before they were ready in the wake of the continual "Apple is making a watch, any time now" rumours.

      They're much better now - for example, the LG one doesn't cut off part of the screen and the Gear actually functions now.

    7. Re: the superbowl of stupidity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can only speak for myself, and I will do so anonymously because I have no desire to spend any time defending my purchasing decisions from people who have no knowledge of my needs, and no good reason to give a shit what I do -- but for me there are several attractive features.

      The simple fact that I can leave my phone on the nightstand and still get calls, texts, and so forth as I putter around the house is worth the entry price. My phone is usually on silent, and I usually don't carry it around with me when I'm at home.

      I expect it to be a better (as in more accurate) fitness tracker than the cheap one I am using now.

      It will certainly be a more convenient form factor for Apple Pay, which as it is is not much better than using the credit card, but with the apple watch would be my go-to option.

      I really don't understand why people start frothing at the mouth with rage just because someone else buys a product they personally don't see as worth the money. $400 isn't a lot of money to everyone.

      Sure, there are cheaper smartwatches available, and they beat the apple watch on raw features and battery life, and whatnot -- but as I'm already (happily) in the iOS ecosystem, I have far more faith in apple to bring me a seamless experience with minimal fuss.

    8. Re:the superbowl of stupidity by sootman · · Score: 1

      Does the title "the superbowl of stupidity" refer to the content of your post? Because you seem to be forgetting how Apple did after entering the lackluster MP3 player market, the lackluster smartphone market, and the lackluster tablet market -- each time, entering an existing space and selling orders of magnitude more products than their competitors. Maybe, just maybe, they deserve the benefit of the doubt here.

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    9. Re:the superbowl of stupidity by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      I think they dun goofed on this one though. Jobs would never have launched with a half day battery life, for a start.

      It will be interesting to read the reviews. Every Android watch has been panned if it didn't get a solid day's use. Let's see if Apple are held to the same standard.

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  20. Different device with different use cases by sjbe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I wear a cheap, waterproof, digital, rubberised, lasts-forever watch that costs an absolute pittance. It shows time and date on the front screen, which is my biggest buying point of them.

    Which is NOT why anyone would buy a smartwatch. If all you want is a simple chronometer then buy a simple chronometer. Odds are you have one already. The various new smartwatches are something different. Think of them as a small sensor package combined with a data logger and some basic smartphone features. The use cases are different and the target audience is different. It's like comparing a smartphone to an old basic cell phone. The smartphone is a computer that happens to make phone calls. The old phone is phone and little else. Different devices with overlapping but different use cases.

    I have no use at all for Apple's watch but I can see some people who might find it fits their life. I also have no use for a simple watch since there are almost always at least 2-3 clocks within eye shot or easily accessible in my daily life. I honestly cannot fathom why most people would ever need or want to wear a simple wristwatch unless they are doing something like running.

    1. Re:Different device with different use cases by ledow · · Score: 1

      "Think of them as a small sensor package combined with a data logger and some basic smartphone features"

      Like... the smartphone that's in my pocket.

      The use case is in combination with a smartphone, which it duplicates the features of, or in replacement for a smartphone, which we pretty much all have anyway.

    2. Re:Different device with different use cases by GTRacer · · Score: 1

      [...] Different devices with overlapping but different use cases.

      You. I like you.

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  21. Scalpers gonna scalp by TraumaFox · · Score: 1

    Take a look at the Apple Watch listings on eBay, because that's more than you'll ever see on people's wrists for the rest of your life.

    1. Re:Scalpers gonna scalp by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 1

      My guess is that at this point, any Apple watches on Ebay are counterfeit...

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  22. This is so sad. by TheRealSync · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The comments in this thread, I mean.

    Seriously - we are talking about new technology - a new gadget to play with. We could be talking about the interface, comparing it to other smart watches, discussing possible future apps that would make sense in this context. But no - it's from Apple, so let's all talk about how we don't want a watch.

    Personally I think the success of the watch highly depends on the interface. Other smart watches have been hard to navigate, and I am not entirely sure I believe Apple has cracked the code on the. If they have, this could be a really cool device. If not, I don't think we will see too many generations of it.

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    1. Re:This is so sad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, if I only had mod points to give you!

    2. Re:This is so sad. by John+Bokma · · Score: 1

      No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame.

    3. Re:This is so sad. by geekmux · · Score: 1

      No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame.

      The iPhone 6 is now offered in 128GB models.

      Be honest, do you know anyone who was forced to buy that model and has come close to challenging the justification by filling it?

      Yeah, me neither.

      Point is just how much space do you need on a device that must pair with another device that already has a lot of storage?

      As for the wireless, it's the same exact situation. People are failing to realize that an iWatch operates on it's own about as well as a Chromecast works without a TV. You don't really need wireless directly from the watch when most or all of it's functionality proxies through an iPhone.

      Besides, as we all know from years of experience, wireless would have killed the battery, which is struggling to last an entire day with the current design.

    4. Re:This is so sad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you're answering a question no one asked.

    5. Re:This is so sad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wooosh

      Someone needs to learn their /. history

    6. Re:This is so sad. by John+Bokma · · Score: 1

      My point is that quite some people here, and on similar sites, judge products by their own requirements and it it doesn't meet those they consider it a huge failure. They don't seem to get that the requirements of "normal" people greatly differs from theirs. Each and every time. So when something is predicted a huge failure on Slashdot don't be surprised if it sells millions and millions.

    7. Re:This is so sad. by wasteoid · · Score: 1

      The Cicret bracelet is a much cooler gadget to play with than the iWatch.

    8. Re:This is so sad. by radarskiy · · Score: 1

      "Other smart watches have been hard to navigate, "

      Heck, even "normal" watches are hard to navigate. This is what could get me interested in the Apple Watch.

    9. Re:This is so sad. by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      But no - it's from Apple, so let's all talk about how we don't want a watch.

      Maybe you should re-read the comments. Very few of the negative comments have anything to do with this device being from Apple. Slashdot is an equal opportunity Smartwatch hater.

  23. Dumb question by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

    Can I make phone calls with the iWatch? Since I can tell time with my phone, it sounds like a logical use for it.

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    1. Re:Dumb question by joh · · Score: 1

      Yes, you can.

      Anyway, I don't need such a watch and I won't buy one (now) but I have little doubt that it is a nice and somewhat useful and pretty toy.

      Recently I have taken to cautiously using Siri for simple things (like setting a timer when cooking some noodles or whatever) and yes, not having to fumble with my phone feels good. Having Siri (and other things for simple tasks) on my wrist surely would be convenient. Not groundbreaking as such, but just one step in the very same direction that we once set out towards by using a piece of rock to do things instead of using our teeth. Everything after that was lots of little steps.

      I don't get the hate, really. People don't "need" most of the stuff they buy. Doesn't mean it isn't comfortable or nice to have though. Hey, drinking nothing but water is totally enough!

    2. Re:Dumb question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, but not independent of the phone. No official confirmation on whether or not you can send/receive iMessages and FaceTime calls independent of the phone while on a known wifi network.

  24. I will wait till we learn by Flavianoep · · Score: 1

    how many be turned back like the Samsung's Gears were.

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    1. Re:I will wait till we learn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I expect none will be sent back because they they weren't compatible with their device. If you have an iPhone 5 or higher, the Apple Watch will work. Samsung gear only worked with few Samsung smartphones. Good news however, Samsung no longer has to wait for Apple to create something so they can promptly copy it.

  25. The Plan by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1, Funny

    OK, here's my idea:

    There's an accelerometer in the Apple Watch, right? So, I write an app that plays a yodeling sound whenever the watch shakes. Then, when you jerk off, it sounds like this:

    https://youtu.be/vQhqikWnQCU?t...

    Come on, you know that would be the all-time Apple Watch killer app. I'm a lazy bastard, so I freely give this idea to any of you app devs who want to run with it. Just give me a shout out in the "about" page.

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    1. Re:The Plan by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      When it detects 'small circles' instead of 'reciprocating jerks' it should switch to 'canyon yodeling' sounds.

      Call that version 1.1

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    2. Re:The Plan by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

      With that in mind, see if you can watch this video without laughing.

      https://youtu.be/mQYbAHDmZgY

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  26. It's not really a timepiece by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People keep missing the point of these things. These are not practical devices like an iPhone that just happens to also be sleek and fashionable. These are fashion items first and foremost (a universally acceptable jewelry item for both men and women) that also happen to have some clever tech-related features. No one buys an Apple watch so they can tell the time. They're buying it so they can show off something interesting and fashionable on their wrist.

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    1. Re:It's not really a timepiece by codeButcher · · Score: 1

      No one buys an Apple watch so they can tell the time. They're buying it so they can show off something interesting and fashionable on their wrist.

      I suspect you are right. I will now google the said device, so that I can be bored from the moment the first hipster shows up to show off, and not only from the second one.

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    2. Re:It's not really a timepiece by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      They're buying it so they can show off something interesting and fashionable on their wrist.

      Must be it. Glad you cracked everyones usage case.

    3. Re:It's not really a timepiece by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      I find mechanical timepieces to be a higher mark of style. I think digital watches are, or will be, like cars. If Mistubishi made a car that looked like a Ferrari, people would just laugh. It's not the appearance; it's the brand that matters. But a traditional, mechanical watch is closer to jewelry. It can appear stylish without the brand mattering at all; without anyone who sees it even knowing the brand.

    4. Re:It's not really a timepiece by pak9rabid · · Score: 1

      No one buys an Apple watch so they can tell the time. They're buying it so they can show off something interesting and fashionable on their wrist.

      Or, so you can access your phone in situations where it really isn't convenient to (such as when running, biking, working on something and your hands are filthy, etc).

    5. Re:It's not really a timepiece by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      People laughed at the 3000GT?

      The Ferrari analogy is good. They have treated their customers with scorn sense day 1. Ferrari's business model from the start was 'sell ridiculously overpriced cars to idiots to fund the F1 team'. When that failed they sold themselves to FIAT.

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  27. Smartwatch = Chronometer by sjbe · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The younger generation that never knew life without a smartphone, never understood the value of wearing a wristwatch.

    Older chronometer watches did nothing but tell time. A useful feature but kind of pointless if you have clocks all around you. Plenty of young people see the value in them, they just don't see the point in wearing one 24/7.

    What will really blow your mind is that is now the same individual lining up to pay someone else $500 for the luxury of wearing one. Talk about brand power.

    The various smartwatches are NOT the same thing as your old Timex wristwatch. They do a lot more than just tell time. Your argument is akin to comparing a basic flip-phone that just makes phone calls to a modern smartphone. The use cases overlap but they are NOT the same thing and will not be used for the same purposes. These new watches have a sensor package, data logging, pager/smartphone features and more plus of course they can tell time. You may or may not have a use for Apple's watch (I do not) but plenty of people clearly do. Apple's reputation for delivering useful products helps get folks to think about it but if the device isn't actually genuinely useful/interesting and doesn't work well then sales will drop like an anvil.

    I think the Apple Watch will sell fairly well if the functionality is there. I don't think it will be as big a blockbuster as the iPad or iPhone but I think enough people will find it interesting/useful enough to be a nice business line for Apple.

    1. Re:Smartwatch = Chronometer by 0xdeaddead · · Score: 1

      step away from the koolaide and recognize collectors on a 1st gen buying spree for what it is.

      This is going to end like all those Tesla orders in China

    2. Re:Smartwatch = Chronometer by sjbe · · Score: 1

      step away from the koolaide and recognize collectors on a 1st gen buying spree for what it is.

      What koolaid? I have no personal interest in Apple's watch at all. I'm just calling it like I see it. I think Apple is going to sell quite a few of these watches unless they have made some catastrophic mistake I'm not aware of yet. I think a lot of people will find it useful and a lot more will keep not wearing a watch. Obviously given the preliminary sales figures there is a lot of interest out there. Will be interesting to see the early reviews and whether the sales can be sustained.

      This is going to end like all those Tesla orders in China

      Riiight. Because a $100,000 supercar is a lot like a $400 wristwatch. Totally the same... [/sarcasm]

    3. Re:Smartwatch = Chronometer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now what was that "Nomad" quote, again?

    4. Re:Smartwatch = Chronometer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Something something 640k ram something something less space than a Nomad something something lawn remove yourself from it

  28. bargainz by SebNukem · · Score: 0

    $500 for a watch that can't even function a full day?! OMG take my money you apple!

  29. PT Barnum was right... by MitchDev · · Score: 0

    ...in this case a million deadspace minutes....

  30. Reviewer and "normal" people who had a hands-on by rainer_d · · Score: 1
    say it's better than anything else. And better than they expected.

    Personally, I don't really need one - it doesn't have enough sports-functions and all the rest (notifications, messages) isn't important to me as I don't sync my work-email, work-calendar with my iPhone.
    And my iPhone is too old to be paired with one. But it's an intersting device, nevertheless.

    I don't understand the hate towards people who buy one.
    "I don't have any music, so I don't need an iPod (or the music-playing capabilites of the iPhone) - so I can't see how anybody else would need such functionality."

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  31. Resellers? by eepok · · Score: 1

    Why in the world would anyone want more than one Apple Watch? I'm fairly certain people aren't buying them for their significant others. Well, most aren't.

    Given how many people buy other major electronics to resell on ebay and other sites, how many of these 1 million plus pre-orders do you think are just buying the iWatches to create artificial scarcity and resell at a higher price? And who can't wait a month to get a damn smartwatch? Who pays the marked up reseller price?

    Help me understand! I just don't get it!

    1. Re:Resellers? by geekmux · · Score: 1

      ...how many of these 1 million plus pre-orders do you think are just buying the iWatches to create artificial scarcity and resell at a higher price? And who can't wait a month to get a damn smartwatch? Who pays the marked up reseller price?

      Who pays the "marked up" price?

      Uh, just curious, have you bought any product made by Apple in the last decade or two? They pretty much have one price they go by, along with every reseller of their hardware.

      Help me understand! I just don't get it!

      You want to better understand their pricing model? OK, step into any store reselling Apple products and ask them when they go on sale. You might want to sit down before you hear the answer.

  32. Smartphones can be quite awkward by sjbe · · Score: 1

    Like... the smartphone that's in my pocket.

    Except more portable and weatherproof. There are plenty of times when a smartphone is too cumbersome or would be damaged. While some people do carry them, exercising with a large smartphone is awkward at best. Good luck swimming with your smartphone. Plenty of other times a watch would be a preferable form factor. A very compact portable sensor package is a useful thing. Most people will be served just fine with a smartphone (I'm one of them) but I can see plenty of use cases for something like a smartwatch.

    1. Re:Smartphones can be quite awkward by martini · · Score: 1

      I just realized I may have a use case for myself. I have been 2-3km out on the lake on my OC1 with my phone in a waterproof case and strapped to the boat. It's there for absolute emergencies, and I would not dare take it out. A waterproof smartwatch could actually be useful to me, especially if I could take/make a call.

    2. Re:Smartphones can be quite awkward by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      I've swum with my last two smartphones.

      Not a problem. Of course they are built for it. More waterproof then an apple watch.

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    3. Re:Smartphones can be quite awkward by geoskd · · Score: 1

      Except more portable and weatherproof.

      I was at an indoor water park today, and there were more than a few smart phones in the waters today. I was genuinely surprised, but I guess it is an important enough use case that manufacturers would want them to be reasonably dunk proof. (Wouldn’t dare pull that stunt with my iPhone though...)

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  33. Re:Why? Why God why????? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Relax, dude. Given the estimated US Population the first day of pre-orders doesn't even scratch half a percent of that. I'm more than willing to believe that there is ~ 0.313 - 0.314% of the American Population financially retarded enough to plop down on this first wave piece of shit. Hell, even when the numbers break over 1%, I'll still not be overly worried that the entirety, or even a small majority, of the American Population will throw themselves over the same cliff. Look at the number of people that were engrossed by Honey Boo Boo...between 2 and 3 million viewers. Just because stupid likes to carry a megaphone doesn't mean that they represent anything close to a majority.

  34. Re:Why? Why God why????? by RavenLrD20k · · Score: 1

    Given the state of the American Education system, I fully expect 5 million to drop green on this crap within the first week. It still won't be a good representation of the majority of the American Market. It's not lemmings. It's consumerism by the lowest common denominator. People with more money than sense. Don't think...buy. Keeps the economy going, stupid.

  35. How many watches were preordered? by ZipK · · Score: 1

    Apple Watch Preorders Almost 1 Million On First Day In the US

    957,000 people preordered the Watch on Friday

    On average, each buyer ordered 1.3 watches

    So did they actually sell 957,000 x 1.3 = 1, 244,100 watches? Because "more than 1 Million watches" would have been a better headline.

    1. Re:How many watches were preordered? by thedarknite · · Score: 1

      The company that wrote the article estimates that 957,000 were sold based on the purchases of 9080 people. So all they can guarantee is 11,804 watches (9080 x 1.3)

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  36. I do not by sjbe · · Score: 1

    I wear a watch daily. Sometimes I like to know what time it is.

    I do not wear a watch daily and I almost always know what time it is. As I type this I have 3 clocks within eyesight (computer monitor, phone on my desk and wall clock) and another 6 within 50 feet of where I stand. I have two in my car, one in most rooms I enter, one on most computers, my thermostat and of course my phone. I don't have a problem with anyone wearing a watch but I personally find them uncomfortable and highly redundant. Why would I want to wear a slightly bulky uni-tasking redundant device?

    Not everyone carries a phone with them everywhere they go.

    True but even when I don't have mine with me I almost always have a clock nearby. Again, nothing against watches but for most people they are a bit anachronistic.

  37. Other devices were crap so... by sjbe · · Score: 2

    Smartwatches were the #1 most returned tech item of 2014.

    If true all that means is that those particular smartwatches were absolute rubbish. And I don't doubt that many of them were bad. Being first to market isn't necessarily an advantage because everyone else gets to learn from your mistakes. There were smartphones before Apple introduced the iPhone but pretty much every meaningful smartphone afterwards is clearly influenced by the iPhone. Just because other companies produced a junk product doesn't mean Apple's will automatically suck. Apple's got a pretty good track record but they have had their share of dud products too. Only time will tell on this one.

    But this time around, it's Apple fans buying the product. So who will win in this epic battle of Apple false superiority and arrogant smugness versus the strong urge to return their useless, annoying product.

    So you think that the product is crap despite the fact that you've never laid a finger on one and thus couldn't possibly know. Curious argument you have there. Personally I prefer to actually try a device before declaring it to be crap. Maybe it is crap but you sure as hell don't know.

    1. Re:Other devices were crap so... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, they were crap since day one. Samsung was the clear target of that remark as well and frankly, Samsung deserved it. It was pure garbage from the get-go and their only reason for coming out with such a botched product was to say they beat Apple to it. Pure and simple. Samsung even resorted to giving a free smartwatch with the purchase of a flat-screen. That's how desperate they were to unload this steaming pile of crap.

      To say they "shipped" 800K watches in a couple months, only to have someone expose they lie and that the actual number SOLD was less than 50K was absolutely shameful, and people like you just simply turned the other way pretending you never read about it. Couple with they 30% return rate, and it just went downhill from there.

      http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/10/doa-the-galaxy-gear-reportedly-has-a-30-percent-return-rate-at-best-buy/

      There were tons of articles detailing how bad the Android smartwatches were. Only Fandroids were praising them, and as usual... they have a false-belief that what's good for them surely must be perfect for every consumer.

      Android smartwatches are the "turds" on everyone's wrist.

  38. A few positive points about Apple's watch .... by King_TJ · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've got to admit that initially, I was *not* excited by the Apple watch announcement at all. Like a lot of people, I was thinking, "Stupid! Most people don't wear watches anymore. The smartphone is what KILLED them for many of us!" I thought the prices were insanely high for the fancier models, and it's little more than a "remote display/control for the phone" anyway.

    I'm also aware of the Android watches that came first, and one of my best friends uses one. It has its good points, but I never felt it was anything I'd use myself.

    But as it turns out, Apple's online ordering for the new watch went live on the day of our anniversary, so my wife offered to get me one as a gift. (Frankly, I wasn't willing to stay awake until 3AM to place an order, but the "hype machine" did at least convince me to browse Apple's site before I went to bed, just to see what configurations they had. I mentioned to my wife that if I was going to get one, I'd probably do the space grey with a black sport band -- as it was the only one I thought looked any good without spending crazy prices for the upscale editions.) Turns out she DID stay up until 3AM and ordered that one for me.

    So now, as I wait my 4-6 weeks for delivery, I've been doing more research to find out exactly what this thing will and won't be able to do for me. And as the long-term reviews come out from people who got to use one for a week or more, it sounds promising. Unlike the initial reports that the Apple Watch would basically "do nothing but tell the time" when it wasn't paired up with your phone in your pocket? I'm finding out that's not quite so. For starters, it apparently has 2GB of storage in it for music. So you can use it as a music player with a pair of bluetooth earbuds without your phone anywhere around. It's also smart enough to pair to your phone via your wi-fi network, as well as via low power bluetooth. So you can walk around your house or office and the watch will be fully functional, even though your phone was left on your desk or nightstand.

    Additionally, reports are coming out that as long as the watch is on a wi-fi network, you can send and receive iMessages on it without the need of a paired phone.

    Then there's the fitness tracker aspect of it. My workplace just started a program where everyone gets a free FitBit and there's a website you can log into to compete with co-workers for who walked the most in a day or a week, etc. etc. It's part of the overall "wellness program". Great, but I really dislike my new FitBit. Because it lacks any GPS functionality, it's too "brain dead" to realize when I'm in a car, on the metro, in a plane, etc. etc. -- so any vibrations that happen get counted as steps taken. It can literally be 50% off on counting your steps! The Apple Watch and iPhone combo makes a far more powerful fitness tracker than FitBit.

    So yeah, the Apple Watch is definitely not a "need", but simply a "want". And many people may not want it at all. That's fine. But I think I'm forced to rethink my original opinion that this was generally going to be a bad idea for Apple. What it may do is re-kindle the interest in wearing a watch around, because it finally gives people some reasons why they should consider doing so, EVEN THOUGH they carry a smartphone already.

    1. Re:A few positive points about Apple's watch .... by shadowrat · · Score: 1

      Apple should hire you! you just laid out far more compelling information than I received in the apple store. Their strategy is basically to say, "oooo! watch!" with an, "*iphone 5 or greater required"

      i'm not a hater. i'm firmly in the camp of: if someone thinks it's going to be so convenient to keep their phone in their pocket and only look at their wrist, they are a fool, but if someone says they spent $400 because they thought it looks nice, who am I to argue with that. Honestly, you just made me reevaluate the usefulness of it. It might be kind of cool.

    2. Re:A few positive points about Apple's watch .... by Cederic · · Score: 1

      Their strategy is basically to say, "oooo! watch!" with an, "*iphone 5 or greater required"

      Yeah, I find that bemusing. I'd have to downgrade my phone or carry two if I wanted to use an Apple Watch.

      Seems a bit silly really.

    3. Re:A few positive points about Apple's watch .... by joh · · Score: 1

      I don't get it. Really. I mean, people spend $400 on lots of things that aren't really necessary, just because they like them. Have you ever build a house? Or bought a car? Or clothing? Shoes? You like things, you can afford them, you buy them. If it makes you happy to have things you like, what's so bad about that?

      And this isn't just about about rich people. One could even say that living (as opposed to surviving) starts when you can afford more than you need. I really don't want to limit me to what I really NEED. Buying pretty and convenient things and by this allowing others to make pretty and convenient things is what keeps things going and this probably started with the first stone hand-axe someone swapped against a slice (or two) of meat, so he could eat without having to hunt while the hunter got a stone-axe without having to know (and learn) how to make it. EVERYTHING that differentiates us from living like animals came from that.

      So if you think that watch is crap, make a better one or shut up. Or invest you energy into hating (which won't change anything but your mood and probably not in a good way).

    4. Re:A few positive points about Apple's watch .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tangent question...

      why did your wife HAVE TO stay up until 3AM to order your smart-watch? She could have simply set an alarm for, say, 2:45AM... no?

    5. Re:A few positive points about Apple's watch .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      She didn't have a watch to set an alarm.

    6. Re:A few positive points about Apple's watch .... by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      Your fitbit in the dryer on a cold sensitive cycle will clock you about 700 steps in 15 minutes if your work happens to be incentivising pointless walking exercises.

    7. Re:A few positive points about Apple's watch .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      She had one, but pulling it out of her pocket was too inconvenient, thus the need for an iWatch. :)

  39. Ugly ugly ugly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Personally I find the Apple watch really ugly. It's not useful. It's not pretty. Why, I think to myself, would any sane person want such a thing on their wrist?

    I therefore expect it to sell well to salespeople, who, in my experience, seem to have a penchant for expensive and ugly cufflinks and tailoring.

    1. Re:Ugly ugly ugly by joh · · Score: 1

      To be honest I thought the very same about the iPhone 6 but when I handled one and looked at it in the flesh I changed my mind. It's actually quite pretty in a simple and subtle way. And that watch is VERY similar to the iPhone 6. It's smoothly rounded, with very little in terms of gaps and ugly details and I'm fairly sure it will look and feel totally fine.

      I won't buy one, but I don't really think it is ugly. Of course it's still a matter of taste, but there are things you can call "ugly" with better reasons.

  40. Why would you swim with a phone? by sjbe · · Score: 1

    I've swum with my last two smartphones.

    Umm, why? Seriously why? Unless you get thrown out of a boat I really cannot think of any reason why I would ever consider swimming with my smartphone even if it were waterproof. I'm open minded about reasons but I seriously cannot think of any sensible reason to do this.

    1. Re:Why would you swim with a phone? by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Once you've established they _are_ waterproof it's easy to forget them. Both times were on the River.

      It helps that waterproof phones are generally just better and tougher. The first lasted 5 years. (vs. 18 months typical for 'normal' phones.)

      I kind of wanted to the defy to die, so I could justify the cost of a new phone. Eventually I just bought one and put the old phone away.

      --
      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
  41. "Repent, Harlequin!" by Thud457 · · Score: 1

    Watches are for slaves.
    iWatches are for iSlaves.


    I decide where I need to be and when, thank you very much.

    --

    the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

  42. Wankfest by JohnStock · · Score: 1

    Let the latest round of wanking begin

  43. Witricity by backslashdot · · Score: 1

    How could they release this thing without a technology like Witricity or whole room charging?? It should be able to charge in a room or when you are sitting on the couch and also in the car without having to deliberately place your hand/watch in a specific location.

    I mean we have the technology for whole room charging, so why not use it? They have like 100 billion dollars in cash couldn't they have spent a few million and figured out how to put Witricity into the watch? Now even Samsung won't do it until they have Apple does it .. so we have to wait for Apple to get this idea.

    Well I know they are reading slashdot cause thats where they got the downfacing IR sensor and vibration messaging idea .. http://ask.slashdot.org/commen... so maybe they will grab this one too.

  44. Proposal: update the universal SPM constant. by markhahn · · Score: 1

    According to Wikipedia, the widely-known 1.0 SPM constant was first proposed sometime in the mid-late 1800s, usually attributed to PT Barnum, but apparently falsely. Perhaps the murky origins of the constant explain why it has been forgotten by physics, or perhaps it's just that modern commerce has made it much easier to measure with accuracy.

    To make it more SI, I propose we switch to Suckers Per Second, and that SPS should be updated from 60 (in the Barnum era) to a lower bound of 395 (ref: Apple Watch, "sport" edition) and upper bound of SBP=17,000.

    1. Re:Proposal: update the universal SPM constant. by jo_ham · · Score: 1

      I believe someone here proposed the same adjustment when the original iPhone launched.

      Also when the iPad launched.

      Strangely no adjustment when the Galaxy Gear launched, although I think they sold at least than 1 per minute, but you think they'd want to adjust it the other way too, eh?

  45. Sport Edition by backslashdot · · Score: 2

    I'm buying the cheaper one so I can gold plate it myself to upgrade it to $17K version so I can show it off to people who would then believe me to be a vastly superior human being than them. That can be my legacy. Here lies a dude who owned a $17K watch. He is so F'ing cool.

  46. Finally... by BadPirate · · Score: 1

    Of course I gave up Apple in 1988

    Finally! A tech savvy individual on Slashdot who understands the state of the industry and is able to express a knowledgeable opinion. Everyone else commenting on this whole "Apple Watch" thing seems to be too heavily biased by the having used an Apple product in the last 2 decades. It's refreshing to get an unbiased opinion.

    --
    - Holy crap, I've got MOD points! Who thought that was a good idea.
  47. Apple by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apple's got it so easy. They could make anything and their fans would line up outside on sidewalks for 24 hours to buy it.

  48. Estimated one million pre-orders? by DougPaulson · · Score: 1

    "The launch of the Apple Watch has got off to a good start, with an estimated 1 million pre-orders in the U.S. on Friday."

    And yet, the press had already pre-decided it was a failure ...

    1. Re:Estimated one million pre-orders? by amxcoder · · Score: 1

      What I don't understand is all the press about the iWatch, as well as any of the iPhone releases. Android smart watches have been out for years, and not a peep on the nightly news about 'em. Either Apple is paying off the local/national media for 'advertisements' or the people that produce the news are all Apple fanboys and stumble over each other to give Apple free advertising in the form of "news".

  49. Tempting, but I will wait for v2 by Camembert · · Score: 1

    I experimented with it last friday. I thought that it looks and feels quite premium, more so than pictures suggest and more so than other smartwatches I briefly tried. The straps and bracelets are very well thought out. I expect it to inflict real pain on the quartz market, most of the fashion watches you see in malls, also Tissot and quartz Seikos.
    For a v1 it is quite impressive but I will wait for v2. Apple is usually interesting in v1 and in v2 they make their products really mature. I do expect extra sensors (they hired people with phds on this subject), like blood sugar sensors. Health will become a killer app in the coming versions, which will drive mass adoption. All in my opinion of course. And there will be interesting competition coming.
    While I expect it to kill most but the cheapest quartz watches, I also do expect the apple watch to increase interest in pure mechanical watches. Many young people do not wear a watch. I can see ever more powerful smartwatches to become popular with them, and because of that it wouldn't surprise me it becoming a gateway for mechanical watches to wear during dressed moments for example.
    Again all in my opinion.
    All in all I found it quite tempting.

  50. Its a gay thing.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I will probs LOL at any hetro male who wears an Apple Watch, unless they are gay, going out on a limb here, but maybe its the new way for gay men to connect, with the awesome heart beat feature and all haha.

  51. re: why ARE you sticking forks in the outlets? by PPalmgren · · Score: 1

    When playing with the powered K'nex as a kid, I held the metal bits on the side to guide plugs into sockets b/c you don't have fine motor skills as a kid...and lo and behold I got jolted. While once is an accident, the stupider part was doing it again to confirm what happend and how...twice more. My IQ test around that time was in the 160's, so I don't think it was for lack of brains. Lack of common sense or lacking respect of authority, maybe.

    Moral of the story: kids are stupid and will stick stuff in sockets or touch stuff stuck into sockets because they can. Also related: "Don't do it/don't touch it" doesn't work on many a child.