I have to disagree. One of the great selling points of a disposable camera is that you can bring it somewhere and you don't have to worry about losing or breaking it. If you do you've lost a few pictures and you're out $10-$15. I can't imagine the digital camera renter's being as forgiving, even if it is a low-end model.
Well I imagine that almost all corporations were opposed to this. Not only do they not want the government listening in to their plans, but the amount of money it would cost software, hardware, and any other company that implements, develops, sells, uses crypto is enormous. The list is very long. I'm sure many of the companies on that list were able to "convince" the Senator that this is a bad idea.
If another driver has already registered that I/O address, you won't be able to get to it, so I think you have to disable the Parallel Port driver or I believe there are functions in the API to make calls through the parallel port driver to get to the hardware. I remember playing around with this a while ago and having problems due to the parallel port driver. Hope that helps.
There's an "Ask Slashdot" titledWhat Do You Do With Old Computer Parts? that had some links and information in the comments that might be helpful and offer insight into donating to schools and other organizations.
But the amount staked on the release of 2.4.11/12, next to nothing, I would think. Most commercial applications of Linux are in a pre-packaged distibutions with well tested kernels that even have patches applied by the vendor. I can't imagine any server admin. updating their kernel the day after it is released. Like I said before, should this have happened? No. But mistakes happen and it was fixed very quickly and publicly, can you really ask for anything more.
KidA
Umm...How much did you pay for the kernel?
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First of all, let's all remember that the amount of money we are paying for the linux kernel is $0.00. Secondely, if you are bothered by the testing process, download some pre-releases and test it yourself. Thirdly, this kernel was not included in any linux package that I know of, and we all know that Mandrake, Redhat, and all the other linux packages, do testing themselves, and usually don't release the bleeding edge kernel in their releases, so the amount of exposure is minimal. Should 2.4.11 been released, well no, but it was and it was fixed quickely, and you can always revert back one version if something is not working. So everyone take a deep breath, and remember, IT'S FREE, a lot of these guys are submitting these patches on their spare time. What have you done to help out?
I find sometimes an ls of/bin/sbin/usr/sbin and/usr/bin (although you probably need a | more/less with that one) and then using man can usually get me what I want. Sometimes you just can't remember the name of command until you see it...
Contact your senators. It's easy, if you don't know what to say, just be polite and paraphrase some lines from the Red Hat press release. Tell him/her how the bill could directly have an effect on your life, and maybe an example of how it could effect the Senator's life too. All the webpages have web forms to send emails, so type something up first, run spell check and then paste it in the form. It couldn't be easier. On more thing, make sure you put your real name and address, if it's coming from a real person, it has a better chance of being heard.
Granted, if you like to hack around, changing HZ is an interesting exercise, but for most applications, not a good solution for better responsiveness. Just think, right now, most x86 computers are dealing with 100 timer interrupts a second, not much overhead. Now lets change it to 50 times more interrupts! Granted today's processors are much more faster, but that's a lot of cpu bandwidth you are wasting, for a gain in responsives. Everytime an interrupt is handled, the CPU has to change context, just like process switching, but 5000 times a second, with most of these switches not needed, because there won't be much to do. 100 is a good number. It's perfect for human interfacing, like mouse/keyboard sampling, and fits most needed timer applications, and it's a happy mid-ground for system stability. I think if there was a great benefit to changing HZ, the very knowledgable kernel developers would have already done it.
Well from the looks of it sound like they're doing all the right things. Just too bad for most of us who've been seeing "GET/default.ida?XXXX..." and "GET/scripts/root.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0" 404" in our apache logs, its can't come soon enough...
I thought the funniest part was when I clicked on the Amazon link from the Atlas of Cyberspace site to find out how much the book was, I then selected find "Loosely Related" items to this book. Some of the results were
- O Brother, Where Art Thou? DVD
- Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon DVD
- Microsoft FrontPage 2002 Upgrade
But anyways, the pictures do look pretty cool.
KidA
Or if you're really lazy...
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You could get a usb direct connect cable and share the printer over that network, then you wouldn't have to push any buttons, but I'm not sure about the linux driver support for USB direct connect. The switch is still probably the easiest answer.
There are a few problems with multicast. First, of all having the right hardware in line to handle multicast packets and get them all the way to the end user (routers, firewalls, etc.) Secondly, finding the right content to send. This is a big one. People want the content they want, when they want it. They don't feel like waiting, even if it would be more efficient.
But a multicast model, is worth a look. On September 11th, it was, for the most part, a multicast model (broadcast tevevision) that got us our information. Most of the news web sites could not handle the unicast method. So, its a good idea, but like you said, not that much seems to be going on with it. I'd love to here some good, real-world implementations of multicast.
I've seen caps pop in situations you would have never thought they would. Secondly, those data lines are driven from somewhere, they do need some current. Thirdly, if the lines are high, when you put enough together, that's a lot of current to sink. Fourthly, if this is a new motherboard, it will not have tantulum caps, they've been unavailabe in large quantities for over a year.
Last I saw, most of the caps around a processor are electrolytics (tall purple cans). They are polarized and you can blow them up if connected backwards. Enough current on the ground plane could do this if the board is poorly designed, but it doesn't seem to make sense in the end, although I have seen stranger things happen.
Had you used the board before trying out the round cables? If so, the most logical explaination is a bad cable...It does happen, a bad crimp or solder can easily cause a short.
I think the Starshine 3 program is a great learning and research experience all in one. I wish I could have been involved with something like that when I was in school. Just kinda makes you feel good that we're making education exciting and getting some research done at the same time.
Hah, that's funny...but in regards to the top level comment, it's that type of attitude that scares people away from linux. You don't need to know C to apply patches and compile the kernel. And furthermore, most maintainers would be more than happy to entertain resonable bug reports, and most likely will help you get more information if need be.
I think this is a great step in the right direction, but unfortunately most kernel changes and additions are to drivers in the kernel, not the core kernel components. Many times it happens that the driver for device x gets broken in kernel revision y. This isn't because the driver developer was slacking off, each developer only has a limited amount of hardware he or she can test it on.
Granted that's why there's the whole "pre" patch testing process and I'm sure the OSDL will have a nice selection of hardware, but it sounds like they're more focused on core kernel develop, which is great, but if enough people don't test the drivers the problems can't be found and unfortunately Alan Cox has a limited amount of space in his house. He can't keep every possible configuration, so we all need to try and test those kernels more, I know I too am guilty of not trying out enough patches, but we can all do more to make this kernel even better.
I wonder if these microbes could be used in the silcon chip fabrication process...probably not precise enough or small enough, but there's got to be a good application somewhere.
I checked some common noun names to see if they have sites up yet and all I could find were the following (none with real content)
state.info (coming soon)
dog.info (coming soon)
bird.info (redirects to some dotinfo search page)
cartoon.info (for sale)
light.info (under construction (in german?))
law.info (for sale)
So I guess it might be a while before we see anything.
From a user standpoint, (I haven't administered a Perforce or VSS server) I would vote for Perforce if you don't mind using a commercial product, i.e. paying. First of all, I would throw VSS out the window, it's a mess for a lot of reasons stated in earlier posts (database corruption, branching, using it on OS's other than windows sucks and also if you want to get to your code from outside your local network Source Safe is not to friendly to that either.) On the other hand Perforce does mostly everything you would want. I think it takes a week of use to get aquainted with, but after that you'll find it a breeze. It has a windows and linux gui and also a command-line interface for the terminal junkies. It has some kind of client for most OS's (and a web interface). And they seem to update the clients often with bug fixes and new features. In the end CVS is great for online-collaborative projects, and it works well in the business environment, but I think Perforce has more to offer in the business environment.
Yeah, what is Taco trying to do. Linux distros, window managers, browsers, even operating systems are fine to bicker about, but everyone knows not to talk about religion, politics, and which editor is better. But since we are, VI(M) rocks and Emacs isn't an editor, it's a way of life, and I'm just not ready to make that step....
P.S. i.e. should be used when you want to say "that is", e.g. means "for example"...sorry just annoying
I wouldn't be surprised if there's some steganography in some of the mp3's, granted after the fall of Napster, trading has moved to more scattered networks, but I wonder if some of these peer to peer networks are inadvertanly passing messages around...
I have to say from using devfs for the past 6 months I like it. Its definetly nice when you type 'ls' in the/dev directory to not have the terminal fill-up three screens worth. And a dynamic system is the way it should be. But I was wondering if there is anymore more word from Linus and the linux community about what the defacto system will be. From what I last read, Linus was no longer giving out static char device numbers, but didn't accept devfs as the permanent new solution. Sounded like some hybrid of devfs is what he had in mind. Any new info??
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I have to disagree. One of the great selling points of a disposable camera is that you can bring it somewhere and you don't have to worry about losing or breaking it. If you do you've lost a few pictures and you're out $10-$15. I can't imagine the digital camera renter's being as forgiving, even if it is a low-end model.
KidA
Well I imagine that almost all corporations were opposed to this. Not only do they not want the government listening in to their plans, but the amount of money it would cost software, hardware, and any other company that implements, develops, sells, uses crypto is enormous. The list is very long. I'm sure many of the companies on that list were able to "convince" the Senator that this is a bad idea.
If another driver has already registered that I/O address, you won't be able to get to it, so I think you have to disable the Parallel Port driver or I believe there are functions in the API to make calls through the parallel port driver to get to the hardware. I remember playing around with this a while ago and having problems due to the parallel port driver. Hope that helps.
KidA
There's an "Ask Slashdot" titled What Do You Do With Old Computer Parts? that had some links and information in the comments that might be helpful and offer insight into donating to schools and other organizations.
KidA
Well it depends on whether you want to do front projection or rear projection, then you may or may not have to reverse the picture.
KidA
And the amount staked on it may be millions.
But the amount staked on the release of 2.4.11/12, next to nothing, I would think. Most commercial applications of Linux are in a pre-packaged distibutions with well tested kernels that even have patches applied by the vendor. I can't imagine any server admin. updating their kernel the day after it is released. Like I said before, should this have happened? No. But mistakes happen and it was fixed very quickly and publicly, can you really ask for anything more.
KidA
First of all, let's all remember that the amount of money we are paying for the linux kernel is $0.00. Secondely, if you are bothered by the testing process, download some pre-releases and test it yourself. Thirdly, this kernel was not included in any linux package that I know of, and we all know that Mandrake, Redhat, and all the other linux packages, do testing themselves, and usually don't release the bleeding edge kernel in their releases, so the amount of exposure is minimal. Should 2.4.11 been released, well no, but it was and it was fixed quickely, and you can always revert back one version if something is not working. So everyone take a deep breath, and remember, IT'S FREE, a lot of these guys are submitting these patches on their spare time. What have you done to help out?
KidA
I find sometimes an ls of /bin /sbin /usr/sbin and /usr/bin (although you probably need a | more/less with that one) and then using man can usually get me what I want. Sometimes you just can't remember the name of command until you see it...
KidA
Contact your senators. It's easy, if you don't know what to say, just be polite and paraphrase some lines from the Red Hat press release. Tell him/her how the bill could directly have an effect on your life, and maybe an example of how it could effect the Senator's life too. All the webpages have web forms to send emails, so type something up first, run spell check and then paste it in the form. It couldn't be easier. On more thing, make sure you put your real name and address, if it's coming from a real person, it has a better chance of being heard.
KidA
Granted, if you like to hack around, changing HZ is an interesting exercise, but for most applications, not a good solution for better responsiveness. Just think, right now, most x86 computers are dealing with 100 timer interrupts a second, not much overhead. Now lets change it to 50 times more interrupts! Granted today's processors are much more faster, but that's a lot of cpu bandwidth you are wasting, for a gain in responsives. Everytime an interrupt is handled, the CPU has to change context, just like process switching, but 5000 times a second, with most of these switches not needed, because there won't be much to do. 100 is a good number. It's perfect for human interfacing, like mouse/keyboard sampling, and fits most needed timer applications, and it's a happy mid-ground for system stability. I think if there was a great benefit to changing HZ, the very knowledgable kernel developers would have already done it.
KidA
Well from the looks of it sound like they're doing all the right things. Just too bad for most of us who've been seeing "GET /default.ida?XXXX..." and "GET /scripts/root.exe?/c+dir HTTP/1.0" 404" in our apache logs, its can't come soon enough...
KidA
I thought the funniest part was when I clicked on the Amazon link from the Atlas of Cyberspace site to find out how much the book was, I then selected find "Loosely Related" items to this book. Some of the results were
- O Brother, Where Art Thou? DVD
- Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon DVD
- Microsoft FrontPage 2002 Upgrade
But anyways, the pictures do look pretty cool.
KidA
You could get a usb direct connect cable and share the printer over that network, then you wouldn't have to push any buttons, but I'm not sure about the linux driver support for USB direct connect. The switch is still probably the easiest answer.
KidA
There are a few problems with multicast. First, of all having the right hardware in line to handle multicast packets and get them all the way to the end user (routers, firewalls, etc.) Secondly, finding the right content to send. This is a big one. People want the content they want, when they want it. They don't feel like waiting, even if it would be more efficient.
But a multicast model, is worth a look. On September 11th, it was, for the most part, a multicast model (broadcast tevevision) that got us our information. Most of the news web sites could not handle the unicast method. So, its a good idea, but like you said, not that much seems to be going on with it. I'd love to here some good, real-world implementations of multicast.
KidA
I've seen caps pop in situations you would have never thought they would. Secondly, those data lines are driven from somewhere, they do need some current. Thirdly, if the lines are high, when you put enough together, that's a lot of current to sink. Fourthly, if this is a new motherboard, it will not have tantulum caps, they've been unavailabe in large quantities for over a year.
Last I saw, most of the caps around a processor are electrolytics (tall purple cans). They are polarized and you can blow them up if connected backwards. Enough current on the ground plane could do this if the board is poorly designed, but it doesn't seem to make sense in the end, although I have seen stranger things happen.
KidA
PS Yeah could be just a troll..
Had you used the board before trying out the round cables? If so, the most logical explaination is a bad cable...It does happen, a bad crimp or solder can easily cause a short.
KidA
I think the Starshine 3 program is a great learning and research experience all in one. I wish I could have been involved with something like that when I was in school. Just kinda makes you feel good that we're making education exciting and getting some research done at the same time.
KidA
Hah, that's funny...but in regards to the top level comment, it's that type of attitude that scares people away from linux. You don't need to know C to apply patches and compile the kernel. And furthermore, most maintainers would be more than happy to entertain resonable bug reports, and most likely will help you get more information if need be.
KidA
I think this is a great step in the right direction, but unfortunately most kernel changes and additions are to drivers in the kernel, not the core kernel components. Many times it happens that the driver for device x gets broken in kernel revision y. This isn't because the driver developer was slacking off, each developer only has a limited amount of hardware he or she can test it on.
Granted that's why there's the whole "pre" patch testing process and I'm sure the OSDL will have a nice selection of hardware, but it sounds like they're more focused on core kernel develop, which is great, but if enough people don't test the drivers the problems can't be found and unfortunately Alan Cox has a limited amount of space in his house. He can't keep every possible configuration, so we all need to try and test those kernels more, I know I too am guilty of not trying out enough patches, but we can all do more to make this kernel even better.
KidA
I wonder if these microbes could be used in the silcon chip fabrication process...probably not precise enough or small enough, but there's got to be a good application somewhere.
KidA
I checked some common noun names to see if they have sites up yet and all I could find were the following (none with real content)
state.info (coming soon)
dog.info (coming soon)
bird.info (redirects to some dotinfo search page)
cartoon.info (for sale)
light.info (under construction (in german?))
law.info (for sale)
So I guess it might be a while before we see anything.
From a user standpoint, (I haven't administered a Perforce or VSS server) I would vote for Perforce if you don't mind using a commercial product, i.e. paying. First of all, I would throw VSS out the window, it's a mess for a lot of reasons stated in earlier posts (database corruption, branching, using it on OS's other than windows sucks and also if you want to get to your code from outside your local network Source Safe is not to friendly to that either.) On the other hand Perforce does mostly everything you would want. I think it takes a week of use to get aquainted with, but after that you'll find it a breeze. It has a windows and linux gui and also a command-line interface for the terminal junkies. It has some kind of client for most OS's (and a web interface). And they seem to update the clients often with bug fixes and new features. In the end CVS is great for online-collaborative projects, and it works well in the business environment, but I think Perforce has more to offer in the business environment.
Yeah, what is Taco trying to do. Linux distros, window managers, browsers, even operating systems are fine to bicker about, but everyone knows not to talk about religion, politics, and which editor is better. But since we are, VI(M) rocks and Emacs isn't an editor, it's a way of life, and I'm just not ready to make that step....
P.S. i.e. should be used when you want to say "that is", e.g. means "for example"...sorry just annoying
I wouldn't be surprised if there's some steganography in some of the mp3's, granted after the fall of Napster, trading has moved to more scattered networks, but I wonder if some of these peer to peer networks are inadvertanly passing messages around...
I have to say from using devfs for the past 6 months I like it. Its definetly nice when you type 'ls' in the /dev directory to not have the terminal fill-up three screens worth. And a dynamic system is the way it should be. But I was wondering if there is anymore more word from Linus and the linux community about what the defacto system will be. From what I last read, Linus was no longer giving out static char device numbers, but didn't accept devfs as the permanent new solution. Sounded like some hybrid of devfs is what he had in mind. Any new info??