holy mother of god, that would be awesome. I may get a new laptop next year. The real question is if I can wait for 9 months to get my hands on one.
I have never looked forward to a chip like I'm looking forward to the PPC970 implementations. Lower battery consumption, faster processor, better processor road map, 64-bit. The 970 rumored to be cheaper than the current G4 chips too. Is there
With the rumors of apple putting decent memory and bus systems in, there's a possibility that I'll be trying to scrape up a few grand to get myself a new computer.
Golly, I guess it's our fault that Microsoft is such a bad company too, then. I wonder what bad things slashdot is going to make them do as well.
Hrm. Suing IBM is pretty mundane for a company as big as Microsoft. My guess is that they'll sue everybody on the planet, for a million zillion bajillion dollars.
Come on. I've tried to purchase Caldera products before for our school. They don't give an educational discount (which I can understand), their mail and messaging server is more expensive than exchange (for crying out loud!). Caldera basically did everything in their power to prevent me from doing business with them. If they treated all of their customers like I got treated, they deserve what they're about to get -- a steel-toed boot kick to the head.
You can bet that if they do prevail, they are going to make you suffer as MUCH AS THEY CAN with no remorse, since you all have had no remorse for them in the past.
What a marvelously enlightened moral philosophy that is.
It's not really a question of choosing Linux vs. FreeBSD because FreeBSD isn't designed to be a good embedded OS. FreeBSD is designed primarily to function as a workstation or server OS. As far as Linux over BSD, my thought is that it's generally a name-recognition thing, or they're trying to capture the 'geek' or 'hacker' audience. If you tell someone "it runs on NetBSD" or "it runs on Linux", one of them will strike a familiar chord and one of them generally won't.
If a company wants an embedded BSD, NetBSD is a much better choice for embedded functions. Their motto is "Of course it runs NetBSD" because they've ported to just about every architecture I've ever heard of and then some, and their porting code base is incredibly good. Wasabi Systems, the main protector of NetBSD, ports it to different architectures specifically for embedded functions.
You don't hear much of where NetBSD gets used in the embedded space, least of all on slashdot. You can find out more where NetBSD is used embedded here if you're interested: http://www.wasabisystems.com
Long story short, FreeBSD isn't really contending for the embedded space. That's what NetBSD is for.:-)
We're going through the same question with commercial applications on Red Hat. They currently expect new installs to go in to a Red Hat 7.3 system that gets End-Of-Life'd on Dec. 31.
For me, it's not a question about throwing something together on my own, it's about getting support that's been paid for from the commercial vendor. That's what why we're considering RHAS, even though RH7.3 would work just as well.
One of the things he says could probably be something like this:
this is a stunt to protect certain companies from looking really bad in the security world. It will allow them to start releasing combo patches more often, and allow them to progress further on their so-called trustworthy computing initiative.
It makes me sad to see what @stake and bindview have become. Before, they disclosed because they were looking out for the little guy. Now they won't disclose because it will ruin their business partnership with the big guy. Ahh, progress. I know it's idealism that makes me sad, but what happened to their idealism?
the Information security situation in America seems to be getting worse and worse, with the possible exception of osvdb.org, which will turn out to be a great resource. The hooks are there.:-)
I wonder what this Shawn Borri of NAPC co. has up his sleeve. "If Disney's rights go back to 1928, then..."
umm, NAPC's rights go back to 1894? The phonograph is the one media that can't be controlled because the patents on it have been allowed to expire? The phonograph is the analog hole to end all analog holes?
That's one of the reasons that I moved from x86 to ppc. Most virus/trojan/worm writers don't know ppc shellcode, so they ignore the platform entirely. Granted, they can learn anytime, but they don't have neat things like remote registry editing, ActiveX controls, IE bugs, Outlook bugs, etc. to easily exploit.
I hate to say it, but... Microsoft's patching system blows. Not all security fixes show up in windowsupdate.com, hfnetchk will correctly show patches that needed to be installed when windowsupdate showed the system as up to date. There are a lot of unattended patch systems that work great -- Apple's Software Update, RHN, Sun's patching system, BSD source code patching, etc. It's just that Windowsupdate isn't one of them. I'd go mad without this: http://hfnetchk.shavlik.com/default.asp (more current than the version MS uses)
I know how he feels wrt slint. My favorite band in the world is Chavez; one of the best dissonant post-punk albums out there. They put out 2 albums and an EP, and then they were gone. (look for them on http://www.matador.com)
One of them is a guitarist for Zwan (Matt Sweeney), and his talent is wasted in that band. The best thing that could happen for that band is for something bad to happen to Billy Corgan.:-)
What would have suited me best would have been a laptop. The place I went to college had a bunch of computer labs in every building, but they filled up quick during finals week. The best labs were always shut down at midnight. With a desktop, you won't be able to write your paper on your machine at 3 AM while your roommate is trying to sleep. With a laptop, you can take your paper anywhere you can put it. You can type your paper at the library without checking out books, using them for reference as you need them.
Get as much RAM as your laptop will take. Find the sites where you can get hardware upgrades for your laptop now.
Purchase a really good pen, something that's a pleasure to write with (in my case, it was a Parker). If you do essay tests or underline in books, this might come in handy. Get a bunch of pencils, whatever sort of pencil you like.
As someone else said, get a kensington locky thing. Also consider an external keyboard and mouse with your laptop if you can afford it. I wouldn't bother bringing your computer to class unless you have a wacom tablet. you will probably just annoy your classmates, and you'll have a devil of a time copying diagrams.
Someone already said this: absolutely do not get a dell inspiron. The battery will last two years or less, and most of them won't charge up a new one past that point. If you get a dell inspiron, get the 3 year warranty, and may god have mercy on your soul.
If money is in short supply, it may be worth it to wait to purchase your computer until you get to college so you can get in on the school's discount. If you're willing to pay for your computer over the next 10 years, you can finance it. Umm, you won't need matlab or mathematica unless you're going into Math. No, wait, this is slashdot. Yeah, you'll need Mathematica AND Matlab. You'll want one of those $4000 3d movie programs too. Whatever.
Macintoshes have higher resale values and tend to last longer before they need to be replaced in our school environment. They also tend to require less support than the PCs, but if you know what you're doing and you have a preference, that won't be an issue.
Or you could ignore all of this advice, buy a boltcutter instead, and steal someone else's laptop.:-)
Lastly, have a lot of fun. There's a time and place for everything, children, and it's called college.
whenever they come out with a new design, they tend to have all sorts of f00fy little problems with it.
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You find me one person that wants to pay for everything. How about the air we breathe
Hey, I've seen Total Recall too.;P
That's a difficult person to find, since this is slashdot. I can surely find you plenty of people that don't want to pay for anything, though. natch.
I don't assume that I have a right to everything I see. Some of it has to be earned or purchased. Other things, such as air, cannot be regulated. You probably pay for heated or cooled air, though -- AC or central heating. And you probably pay for electricity. You might even pay "one company" for both of them, your energy company.
I expect to pay for some goods and services, given that we don't live in a communist society. Other goods and services are funded by our tax dollars.
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as if a million slashdotters all cried out at once.
I predict a cockfight between the people that actually endorse open source and those that just don't want to pay for anything. I would love to be proved wrong, though.
I'm trying to simply address firewall questions to a kid that doesn't know firewalls -- I'm not trying to broadcast my genius here. My impression, having used ipfw on FreeBSD and ipf on Solaris is that ipfw is easier to use for this kid if he's just getting in to firewalls.
Admit it, if he's not a genius with TCP/IP, seeing all the options for blocking on TCP headers are going to scare the heck out of him.
You got it. The thing that is neato-dandy about 'pf' is that it may be suitable for both home networks (ipfw) and down and dirty firewalling (ipfilter/ipf).
Yes, they differ in implementation and configurability. FreeBSD's default firewall, ipfw, is pretty easy to set up and configure, and it's pretty powerful. Darren Reed's ipfilter is arcane to set up and insanely powerful. From what I've heard of obsd's pf is that it's pretty easy to set up and insanely powerful.
Most firewalls more or less do the same thing, but the devil is in the details. Some firewalls can do much more than others can, and that's why there are multiple firewalls available. For example, Darren Reed's ipfilter can process packets based on any of the TCP flags in the packet header -- not an option that an entry-level sysadmin wants to have to worry about, although a security expert might be uncomfortable without it.
Most of the firewalls can be set up to do host-based and network-based packet filtering (that's firewalling).
or, since this is a open source / community, you could support the open source community and subscribe to vulnwatch@osvdb.org -- it doesn't have as much noise, very little discussion, I only have to deal with 3-4 messages a day and still be informed -- it's only advisories.
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oops, that's supposed to be "is there anything the 970 can't do". too excited to proofread, I guess.
holy mother of god, that would be awesome. I may get a new laptop next year. The real question is if I can wait for 9 months to get my hands on one.
I have never looked forward to a chip like I'm looking forward to the PPC970 implementations. Lower battery consumption, faster processor, better processor road map, 64-bit. The 970 rumored to be cheaper than the current G4 chips too. Is there
With the rumors of apple putting decent memory and bus systems in, there's a possibility that I'll be trying to scrape up a few grand to get myself a new computer.
let's just hope the rumor sites are right.
Golly, I guess it's our fault that Microsoft is such a bad company too, then. I wonder what bad things slashdot is going to make them do as well.
Hrm. Suing IBM is pretty mundane for a company as big as Microsoft. My guess is that they'll sue everybody on the planet, for a million zillion bajillion dollars.
Come on. I've tried to purchase Caldera products before for our school. They don't give an educational discount (which I can understand), their mail and messaging server is more expensive than exchange (for crying out loud!). Caldera basically did everything in their power to prevent me from doing business with them. If they treated all of their customers like I got treated, they deserve what they're about to get -- a steel-toed boot kick to the head.
You can bet that if they do prevail, they are going to make you suffer as MUCH AS THEY CAN with no remorse, since you all have had no remorse for them in the past.
What a marvelously enlightened moral philosophy that is.
Howdy, Teckla.
:-)
It's not really a question of choosing Linux vs. FreeBSD because FreeBSD isn't designed to be a good embedded OS. FreeBSD is designed primarily to function as a workstation or server OS. As far as Linux over BSD, my thought is that it's generally a name-recognition thing, or they're trying to capture the 'geek' or 'hacker' audience. If you tell someone "it runs on NetBSD" or "it runs on Linux", one of them will strike a familiar chord and one of them generally won't.
If a company wants an embedded BSD, NetBSD is a much better choice for embedded functions. Their motto is "Of course it runs NetBSD" because they've ported to just about every architecture I've ever heard of and then some, and their porting code base is incredibly good. Wasabi Systems, the main protector of NetBSD, ports it to different architectures specifically for embedded functions.
You don't hear much of where NetBSD gets used in the embedded space, least of all on slashdot. You can find out more where NetBSD is used embedded here if you're interested:
http://www.wasabisystems.com
Long story short, FreeBSD isn't really contending for the embedded space. That's what NetBSD is for.
Hope this helps...
We're going through the same question with commercial applications on Red Hat. They currently expect new installs to go in to a Red Hat 7.3 system that gets End-Of-Life'd on Dec. 31.
For me, it's not a question about throwing something together on my own, it's about getting support that's been paid for from the commercial vendor. That's what why we're considering RHAS, even though RH7.3 would work just as well.
As if there aren't enough problems converting the U.S. system to metric.
One of the things he says could probably be something like this:
:-)
this is a stunt to protect certain companies from looking really bad in the security world. It will allow them to start releasing combo patches more often, and allow them to progress further on their so-called trustworthy computing initiative.
It makes me sad to see what @stake and bindview have become. Before, they disclosed because they were looking out for the little guy. Now they won't disclose because it will ruin their business partnership with the big guy. Ahh, progress. I know it's idealism that makes me sad, but what happened to their idealism?
the Information security situation in America seems to be getting worse and worse, with the possible exception of osvdb.org, which will turn out to be a great resource. The hooks are there.
I wonder what this Shawn Borri of NAPC co. has up his sleeve. "If Disney's rights go back to 1928, then..."
umm, NAPC's rights go back to 1894? The phonograph is the one media that can't be controlled because the patents on it have been allowed to expire? The phonograph is the analog hole to end all analog holes?
That's one of the reasons that I moved from x86 to ppc. Most virus/trojan/worm writers don't know ppc shellcode, so they ignore the platform entirely. Granted, they can learn anytime, but they don't have neat things like remote registry editing, ActiveX controls, IE bugs, Outlook bugs, etc. to easily exploit.
I hate to say it, but... Microsoft's patching system blows. Not all security fixes show up in windowsupdate.com, hfnetchk will correctly show patches that needed to be installed when windowsupdate showed the system as up to date. There are a lot of unattended patch systems that work great -- Apple's Software Update, RHN, Sun's patching system, BSD source code patching, etc. It's just that Windowsupdate isn't one of them. I'd go mad without this: http://hfnetchk.shavlik.com/default.asp (more current than the version MS uses)
"Do you have a sex life?"
"Does porn count?"
I know how he feels wrt slint. My favorite band in the world is Chavez; one of the best dissonant post-punk albums out there. They put out 2 albums and an EP, and then they were gone. (look for them on http://www.matador.com)
:-)
One of them is a guitarist for Zwan (Matt Sweeney), and his talent is wasted in that band. The best thing that could happen for that band is for something bad to happen to Billy Corgan.
mod me down off-topic, but it had to be said.
Oh yeah? What about Sauron's One Ring?
I got nothin
What would have suited me best would have been a laptop. The place I went to college had a bunch of computer labs in every building, but they filled up quick during finals week. The best labs were always shut down at midnight. With a desktop, you won't be able to write your paper on your machine at 3 AM while your roommate is trying to sleep. With a laptop, you can take your paper anywhere you can put it. You can type your paper at the library without checking out books, using them for reference as you need them.
:-)
Get as much RAM as your laptop will take. Find the sites where you can get hardware upgrades for your laptop now.
Purchase a really good pen, something that's a pleasure to write with (in my case, it was a Parker). If you do essay tests or underline in books, this might come in handy. Get a bunch of pencils, whatever sort of pencil you like.
As someone else said, get a kensington locky thing. Also consider an external keyboard and mouse with your laptop if you can afford it. I wouldn't bother bringing your computer to class unless you have a wacom tablet. you will probably just annoy your classmates, and you'll have a devil of a time copying diagrams.
Someone already said this: absolutely do not get a dell inspiron. The battery will last two years or less, and most of them won't charge up a new one past that point. If you get a dell inspiron, get the 3 year warranty, and may god have mercy on your soul.
If money is in short supply, it may be worth it to wait to purchase your computer until you get to college so you can get in on the school's discount. If you're willing to pay for your computer over the next 10 years, you can finance it. Umm, you won't need matlab or mathematica unless you're going into Math. No, wait, this is slashdot. Yeah, you'll need Mathematica AND Matlab. You'll want one of those $4000 3d movie programs too. Whatever.
Macintoshes have higher resale values and tend to last longer before they need to be replaced in our school environment. They also tend to require less support than the PCs, but if you know what you're doing and you have a preference, that won't be an issue.
Or you could ignore all of this advice, buy a boltcutter instead, and steal someone else's laptop.
Lastly, have a lot of fun. There's a time and place for everything, children, and it's called college.
why this got modded down is beyond me. how can the first post be redundant? c'mon mods, check his post history.
>SELECT * FROM spamers WHERE clue > 0
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>0 rows returned
Hey, I figured out why 0 spammers were returned; you mis-spelled 'spammers'. try it again with the 2nd 'm', and I bet it will work right.
holy shite, this could be the thing that makes the dmca unconstitutional: because it conflicts with current copyright law.
who'da thunk it.
whenever they come out with a new design, they tend to have all sorts of f00fy little problems with it.
You find me one person that wants to pay for everything. How about the air we breathe
;P
Hey, I've seen Total Recall too.
That's a difficult person to find, since this is slashdot. I can surely find you plenty of people that don't want to pay for anything, though. natch.
I don't assume that I have a right to everything I see. Some of it has to be earned or purchased. Other things, such as air, cannot be regulated. You probably pay for heated or cooled air, though -- AC or central heating. And you probably pay for electricity. You might even pay "one company" for both of them, your energy company.
I expect to pay for some goods and services, given that we don't live in a communist society. Other goods and services are funded by our tax dollars.
as if a million slashdotters all cried out at once.
I predict a cockfight between the people that actually endorse open source and those that just don't want to pay for anything. I would love to be proved wrong, though.
Heh. Sorry about that. I, uh, umm...
/poof of smoke /runs away
Quick, look over there!
I'm trying to simply address firewall questions to a kid that doesn't know firewalls -- I'm not trying to broadcast my genius here. My impression, having used ipfw on FreeBSD and ipf on Solaris is that ipfw is easier to use for this kid if he's just getting in to firewalls.
Admit it, if he's not a genius with TCP/IP, seeing all the options for blocking on TCP headers are going to scare the heck out of him.
You got it. The thing that is neato-dandy about 'pf' is that it may be suitable for both home networks (ipfw) and down and dirty firewalling (ipfilter/ipf).
Yes, they differ in implementation and configurability. FreeBSD's default firewall, ipfw, is pretty easy to set up and configure, and it's pretty powerful. Darren Reed's ipfilter is arcane to set up and insanely powerful. From what I've heard of obsd's pf is that it's pretty easy to set up and insanely powerful.
Most firewalls more or less do the same thing, but the devil is in the details. Some firewalls can do much more than others can, and that's why there are multiple firewalls available. For example, Darren Reed's ipfilter can process packets based on any of the TCP flags in the packet header -- not an option that an entry-level sysadmin wants to have to worry about, although a security expert might be uncomfortable without it.
Most of the firewalls can be set up to do host-based and network-based packet filtering (that's firewalling).
Hope this helps.
This goes without saying, but you should check the systems ported page for your appliances' porting status.
http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/
We all know how much of a bear it can be to image a boot disk on a piece of bread. They're working on it, give them a break.
or, since this is a open source / community, you could support the open source community and subscribe to vulnwatch@osvdb.org -- it doesn't have as much noise, very little discussion, I only have to deal with 3-4 messages a day and still be informed -- it's only advisories.