Man sits behind computer monitor, furiously working on the kayboard, pale face illuminated by his CRT monitor.
(knock on door)
Man: Who is it ?
Voice: Pizza delivery.
Man: Hm, I was wondering when the liver-anchovy pizza would arriv..... (door kicked in, in comes a heavily armed cop in black leather).
Man: Whoa... !
Police Officer: This is a SPAM search!! We have a report that large amounts of Viagra scam mail has been sent from this house! We have a warrant to search the premesis! Get down on teh ground, NOW!!!
(2 minutes later, the cop is in front of the computer, browsing the software and local documents. The spammer hangs on chains in the background, mouth duct-taped shut).
Police officer: Looks like we have some serious shit here. You have operated a spam outfit for more than 6 months. Lets see.... aha. Viagra ? Super viagra ? Breast enhancement pills ? And.... wtf, you sick shit. Osama Bin laden Bestiality porn ? Boy, I guess I'm gonna have to call up some pipe-hittin' niggers, and in 10 minutes they're gonna be here, getting medival on your ass with a blowtorch and a pair of pliers....
(Man, now known to be a spammer, squirms and moans loudly in the background. Music from Pulp Fiction rape scene fades in. Shot of house from outside, as music goes full blast).
Don't attribute to conspiracy what can adequately be explained by stupidity.
The US gov't doesn't hold its hand over the spammers - not intentionally anyways. They're just utterly ignorant about the extent of the SPAM problem. Hence the weak legislation that has been passed.
A new study suggests that dictators are shown to be significantly more brutal than democratically elected officials, and big businesses usually fuck the consumer more over than small businesses.
That'll show those pro-"renewable energy" hippie freaks!
Better yet, put the animal rights jerks up against them. Or better yet, make a reality TV show about it, put people from bot of these groups on an island with clubs, knives and spiked knucles and let them duke it out.
...why ARS gets so much press space here on SlashDot ? I mean, I also write a lot of articles about technical stuffs, but I never get any press space ?
A country is no better than its administration. You may argus that the US put Saddam in power in the first place, but the circumstances were different. Two words: Cold war. Does that explain it for you ?
1) Yeah, I guess the libbies are real crybabies for the murderes and conspirators at Guantanamo.
2) So, I guess the electoral results were faked, huh ?
3) So ?
4) The IC / UN is a wussie coffeeclub that holds the hand over opressive regimes. To support it would to support opression and centralisation. And to add salt to ythe wound, buerocracy.
5) No WMD's ? Lie. Maybe no nukes, but there certainly have been found Anthrax, VX gas. Selective amnesia on your part, perhaps?
6) War with china might not be winnable. Especially since China most certainly has nukes, and long range delivery systems.
...and while a lot of people are babbling about the illigetimacy of the USA making war, a lot of people are starving, dying, being tortured and generally having a very bad time at the hands of dictators and psychos around the world.
Those of you, who bash the USA for its involvement in the war, on whatever reason - you are too well off. You have forgotten that freedom is not free. You are taking it for granted, and hence, you are the greatest threat to democracy.
"I don't agree when someone who fights for freedom lies to the whole world about their motivation."
What is there to do ? Even if a war would free the world of cancer, aids and alcohol-free beer, there would still be a public outcry, especially from the libbies and USA-haters.
Fuck the motivation. Look at the results. Judge the action against Saddam from the *results* - namely, freedom and better living standards for 26 million people.
You dont get it , do you ? Saddam is caught, the Iraqis have freedoms they havent even had the freedom to TALk about for 20 years (and dancing in the strees today), they're getting better living standards every fucking day, and you and you moronic peers keep talking about shitty oil ?
There can be no doubt. You hate freedom. You hate life. You love dictators and murders. If there was a hell, I'd sincerily wish you go there.
Only a USA-hater can claim that there is such a thing as "illegal war". You see, a law requires enforcement. If there is no enforcement, there is no law. Where do you see any international enforcement, other than the limited one the USA have provided over the last 50 years?
Here we see yet another mass murdering dicctator bite the dust, and all you can do is cry about "illegal war". Waah waah. So much for the humanity of the anti-war crowd.
It's an old tactic used pa PC columnists. Write a quick bash at Apple or the Mac, and watch the hit counter soar. And since hits = clicks = banner money....
This is not meant as a flame, but it's pretty obvious that Mac users are easy to enrage, even with bullshit claims like this one.
>>You accuse me of elitism for suggesting that every webpage isn't useful, enlightening or even necessary. And you top it off with a bash at my opinion on socialism and a claim that I'm a loser.
>You ARE an elitist if you want to keep information in the hands of a few--those that you deem worthy.
This comment merely shows that you misunderstood what I said initially. I'm not for reducing access to information or publishing information. You're overinterpreting.
>As far as the loser comment is concerned, I didn't mean to imply that you are a loser in the sense that you inferior/unworthy/etc. By loser, I mean to say that your system will fail. You will lose. Even though you are my opponent, I have no disrespect for you. I'm just saying you will lose in the end.
Humility trampled underfoot, I see.
>>The results of socialism in this world has been nothing but tragedy, murder and poverty. Every attempt to create the utopian society dictated by your ideology has resulted in failure and human suffering. USSR, China, East Germany, Cuba, Cambodia, Vietnam; North Korea, Nicaragua etc.
>What happened in these countries is hardly socialist.
Ah, so you're on the revisionist bandwagon as well.
>It may have started out as socialism but it went off the tracks. USSR during its "peak" had nothing to do with socialism, communism, marxism, or trotskyism.
Yet, no one in western socialist circles would deny that the USSR was socialist back in the Cold War. Why is that ?
>It was nothing more than a bureacratic state controlled by a dictatorship.
Ergo, socialism in reality.
>Many of the other countries you list have nothing to do with communism (eg. North Korea,Nicaragua, Vietnam). Some are nothing more than nationalist movements that have nothing to do with communism (eg. Nepal, Libya, Iraq, "Kurds"). The closest one to communism would be Cuba.
Thanks for admitting that a mass murdering, opressive, racist regime that incites violent revolts in neighbouring states is communist.
>I find it interesting that you list Nicaragua as communist and imply that its problems were somehow related to communism. Does this mean that you support all the atrocities committed by the US-backed contras?
The Sandinists of Nicaragua was endded Socialist/Communist. And it is also interesting to note that you are ignoring the mass graves recently found in Nicaragua, dating back to the Sandinista era, while solely focusing on the US involvement in Nic.
A common US-basher tactic.
>Capitalism, and other right wing systems like fascism,
You dont even have your definitions straight. Capitalism is an economic system, where private ownership is asserted. Fascism is a *political* system, where the society is ruled by a single despot.
The comparison is yet another arrogant socialist rhetoric, and it is of course false.
> have committed serious crimes as well.
No, ideologies do not commit crimes. Human do.
My criticism of socialism is based on teh fact that it is anti-democratic, and hence allowes dictatorships to arise.
> I'm not excusing the atrocities commited by the left, but you don't stand so high up either. The thing I would like to point out, especially about capitalism (assuming you are a capitalist), is that 70%+ of the world is capitalist. Yet how come you ignore all the problems in the world.
I'm not ignoring them, they are simply not relevant to a debat about socialism or politics.
> There are many poor people struggling.
So, you assume that poverty is a result of capitalism ? Do you think poverty magcally disappears, because a state heists the red banners and calls itself *socialist" ?
> Things like free trade have simply made it worse for them.
This claim clearly contradicts 2 centuries of economic theroy and experience, which clearly shows that the opposite is true. Free Trade increases prosper
People like Osama Bin Laden, and the like, do what they do, because they're fanatics. Fanatics produced by the terrorist factory known as "Islam", a "religion" where the name itself means "submission", and ideology, thats even more fascist than socialism and communism, an ideology, which even dictates how to wipe your own backside after a trip to the loo.
The claim that USA is ultimately responsible for the evils perpetrated agains it is old (red) hat - excuse the pun. It's in short, bullshit, sprouted by people who are pissed off that the free world won the cold war, and that their socialist dreams have been wrecked by their own mediocrity and arrogance.
International law ? Pah. There is no law without a power to enforce it. And since there's no international power, there is no international law. Claims to the contrary are delusions.
Besides, I dont believe in "hell". Not in the biblical sense, anyway.
While I appreciate the feedback, I cant say I like the essence of your comments.
You accuse me of elitism for suggesting that every webpage isn't useful, enlightening or even necessary. And you top it off with a bash at my opinion on socialism and a claim that I'm a loser.
Well, let me tall you something, Mr. Sivaram. Especially seeing your homepage where your style yourself as a leftist, which I assume is close to the socialism you bash me for objecting to.
The results of socialism in this world has been nothing but tragedy, murder and poverty. Every attempt to create the utopian society dictated by your ideology has resulted in failure and human suffering. USSR, China, East Germany, Cuba, Cambodia, Vietnam; North Korea, Nicaragua etc.
Opression of freedom and all that it implies, is the result of your ideology. And ironically you accuse me of opposing the essence of this freedom. This makes your criticim sound very, very hollow.
I'm a resident of Denmark; Scandinavia. This country is called the sumpremely most socialist/communist country of the world, due to the large redistribution of income here. You'd like to think that that makes people more equal. Allow me to explain some of the consequences to you:
- low incomes pay roughly 40% in taxes, "rich" people pay more than 60%. Car taxes are between 130% and 225%. - almost 50% of the work force not employed, because the welfare is too big, which means it doesnt pay off to get a job. - lots of tax fraud, because people are punished for working by our huge taxes. - public sector is huge and inefficient. Out tax money are poorly spent. - poor public health. long waits on hospital treatments, and many people die before they are treated. - poor road system - many freeways are unsatisfactory or even hazardous to drive on. - poor senior citizen care. - poor childcare, no guarantee that there is even space for your child at the local kindergarten. - poor schooling, declining standards of education, and unhealthy school buildings (fungi, rot etc). - arrogant politicians, (expecially the leftwinders, such as yourself), who think people are their servant and not the otehr way around, as it should be. - lots of immigrant problems, because the leftwingers (again!) prefer to call anybody who points out the problem of immigrant crime a racist instead of solving the problems.
etc.
This is your socialist utopia, Mr. Sivaram.
PS: You claim, on your webpage, that capitalism is failing and bound to collapse. Wake up from that ideological nap of yours. Even china has submitted to free market economics, because opposition to capitalism and use of planned economics made their nation an economic dinosaur, waiting to be eradicated by a free-market meteor...
While I, after some consideration, agree with you, you are also implying I have certain opinions that I dont. You end off your comment by suggestion that I suggested to destroy "what we dont need".
I dont have any such intentions. I'm not in this discussion to promote destruction. My point is to consider if I have something to say before I put up something on the web (or whatever medium we're discussion). That is, instead of destroying data, as you suggest, I'd say, consider whether it should be made in the first place.
And I don't really think corportate politics or government control comes into this. That was certainly not my intention.
Slashdot Mirror
Or the rest of the Moslem world for that matter.
The educational standard is dismal in these coutries, and the youngsters in the middle east want to go to the western world to study and live.
They home countries suck and they know it.
It's already happening!
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SCOX is on a steady downhill slide. Bye Bye Darl!
I can imagine this setting:
Man sits behind computer monitor, furiously working on the kayboard, pale face illuminated by his CRT monitor.
(knock on door)
Man: Who is it ?
Voice: Pizza delivery.
Man: Hm, I was wondering when the liver-anchovy pizza would arriv..... (door kicked in, in comes a heavily armed cop in black leather).
Man: Whoa... !
Police Officer: This is a SPAM search!! We have a report that large amounts of Viagra scam mail has been sent from this house! We have a warrant to search the premesis! Get down on teh ground, NOW!!!
(2 minutes later, the cop is in front of the computer, browsing the software and local documents. The spammer hangs on chains in the background, mouth duct-taped shut).
Police officer: Looks like we have some serious shit here. You have operated a spam outfit for more than 6 months. Lets see.... aha. Viagra ? Super viagra ? Breast enhancement pills ? And.... wtf, you sick shit. Osama Bin laden Bestiality porn ? Boy, I guess I'm gonna have to call up some pipe-hittin' niggers, and in 10 minutes they're gonna be here, getting medival on your ass with a blowtorch and a pair of pliers....
(Man, now known to be a spammer, squirms and moans loudly in the background. Music from Pulp Fiction rape scene fades in. Shot of house from outside, as music goes full blast).
THE END!
Don't attribute to conspiracy what can adequately be explained by stupidity.
The US gov't doesn't hold its hand over the spammers - not intentionally anyways. They're just utterly ignorant about the extent of the SPAM problem. Hence the weak legislation that has been passed.
A new study suggests that dictators are shown to be significantly more brutal than democratically elected officials, and big businesses usually fuck the consumer more over than small businesses.
What a fucking surprise!
(please excuse the irony).
Get a Mac.
That'll show those pro-"renewable energy" hippie freaks!
Better yet, put the animal rights jerks up against them. Or better yet, make a reality TV show about it, put people from bot of these groups on an island with clubs, knives and spiked knucles and let them duke it out.
...why ARS gets so much press space here on SlashDot ? I mean, I also write a lot of articles about technical stuffs, but I never get any press space ?
/. become a front for AT ?
Has
Yeah, and if the damn thing goes up in neutrinos, they're even rid of France! Isn't that a win-win in marketing speak ? :)
...And that is why we are likely to be using Deuterium-H3lium3 fusion, as it produces protons and no fast neutrons like D-D fusion.
Protons can be contained by magnetic fields, neutrons can't. That means less rad worries.
"So now we know where to build it, and who will help in doing it. But how do we make the darn thing WORK?"
I dont like the TIA or the PATRIOT act, either, but tell me how many people have been prosecuted or arrested or in any way molested by these acts ?
The DMCA is worse, believe me. But anyhow, I'd like to see the two aforementioned acts removed ASAP.
Different, administrations, different policies.
Different times, different circumstances.
A country is no better than its administration. You may argus that the US put Saddam in power in the first place, but the circumstances were different. Two words: Cold war. Does that explain it for you ?
1) Yeah, I guess the libbies are real crybabies for the murderes and conspirators at Guantanamo.
2) So, I guess the electoral results were faked, huh ?
3) So ?
4) The IC / UN is a wussie coffeeclub that holds the hand over opressive regimes. To support it would to support opression and centralisation. And to add salt to ythe wound, buerocracy.
5) No WMD's ? Lie. Maybe no nukes, but there certainly have been found Anthrax, VX gas. Selective amnesia on your part, perhaps?
6) War with china might not be winnable. Especially since China most certainly has nukes, and long range delivery systems.
...and while a lot of people are babbling about the illigetimacy of the USA making war, a lot of people are starving, dying, being tortured and generally having a very bad time at the hands of dictators and psychos around the world.
Those of you, who bash the USA for its involvement in the war, on whatever reason - you are too well off. You have forgotten that freedom is not free. You are taking it for granted, and hence, you are the greatest threat to democracy.
Not only because if your inherent arrogance.
Wow, a USA bash, and a 1984 reference. And it gets modded +5 ?
"I don't agree when someone who fights for freedom lies to the whole world about their motivation."
What is there to do ? Even if a war would free the world of cancer, aids and alcohol-free beer, there would still be a public outcry, especially from the libbies and USA-haters.
Fuck the motivation. Look at the results. Judge the action against Saddam from the *results* - namely, freedom and better living standards for 26 million people.
You dont get it , do you ? Saddam is caught, the Iraqis have freedoms they havent even had the freedom to TALk about for 20 years (and dancing in the strees today), they're getting better living standards every fucking day, and you and you moronic peers keep talking about shitty oil ?
There can be no doubt. You hate freedom. You hate life. You love dictators and murders. If there was a hell, I'd sincerily wish you go there.
Look, pal, the FOX News bash (por whatever news channel you and your anti-war buddies decide to bash today) is old and dusty.
Leave it, and besides, be thankful there somebody in this world dares to fight for other's freedom. You are apparently not one of them.
Only a USA-hater can claim that there is such a thing as "illegal war". You see, a law requires enforcement. If there is no enforcement, there is no law. Where do you see any international enforcement, other than the limited one the USA have provided over the last 50 years?
Here we see yet another mass murdering dicctator bite the dust, and all you can do is cry about "illegal war". Waah waah. So much for the humanity of the anti-war crowd.
It's an old tactic used pa PC columnists. Write a quick bash at Apple or the Mac, and watch the hit counter soar. And since hits = clicks = banner money....
This is not meant as a flame, but it's pretty obvious that Mac users are easy to enrage, even with bullshit claims like this one.
>>You accuse me of elitism for suggesting that every webpage isn't useful, enlightening or even necessary. And you top it off with a bash at my opinion on socialism and a claim that I'm a loser.
>You ARE an elitist if you want to keep information in the hands of a few--those that you deem worthy.
This comment merely shows that you misunderstood what I said initially. I'm not for reducing access to information or publishing information. You're overinterpreting.
>As far as the loser comment is concerned, I didn't mean to imply that you are a loser in the sense that you inferior/unworthy/etc. By loser, I mean to say that your system will fail. You will lose. Even though you are my opponent, I have no disrespect for you. I'm just saying you will lose in the end.
Humility trampled underfoot, I see.
>>The results of socialism in this world has been nothing but tragedy, murder and poverty. Every attempt to create the utopian society dictated by your ideology has resulted in failure and human suffering. USSR, China, East Germany, Cuba, Cambodia, Vietnam; North Korea, Nicaragua etc.
>What happened in these countries is hardly socialist.
Ah, so you're on the revisionist bandwagon as well.
>It may have started out as socialism but it went off the tracks. USSR during its "peak" had nothing to do with socialism, communism, marxism, or trotskyism.
Yet, no one in western socialist circles would deny that the USSR was socialist back in the Cold War. Why is that ?
>It was nothing more than a bureacratic state controlled by a dictatorship.
Ergo, socialism in reality.
>Many of the other countries you list have nothing to do with communism (eg. North Korea,Nicaragua, Vietnam). Some are nothing more than nationalist movements that have nothing to do with communism (eg. Nepal, Libya, Iraq, "Kurds"). The closest one to communism would be Cuba.
Thanks for admitting that a mass murdering, opressive, racist regime that incites violent revolts in neighbouring states is communist.
>I find it interesting that you list Nicaragua as communist and imply that its problems were somehow related to communism. Does this mean that you support all the atrocities committed by the US-backed contras?
The Sandinists of Nicaragua was endded Socialist/Communist. And it is also interesting to note that you are ignoring the mass graves recently found in Nicaragua, dating back to the Sandinista era, while solely focusing on the US involvement in Nic.
A common US-basher tactic.
>Capitalism, and other right wing systems like fascism,
You dont even have your definitions straight. Capitalism is an economic system, where private ownership is asserted. Fascism is a *political* system, where the society is ruled by a single despot.
The comparison is yet another arrogant socialist rhetoric, and it is of course false.
> have committed serious crimes as well.
No, ideologies do not commit crimes. Human do.
My criticism of socialism is based on teh fact that it is anti-democratic, and hence allowes dictatorships to arise.
> I'm not excusing the atrocities commited by the left, but you don't stand so high up either. The thing I would like to point out, especially about capitalism (assuming you are a capitalist), is that 70%+ of the world is capitalist. Yet how come you ignore all the problems in the world.
I'm not ignoring them, they are simply not relevant to a debat about socialism or politics.
> There are many poor people struggling.
So, you assume that poverty is a result of capitalism ? Do you think poverty magcally disappears, because a state heists the red banners and calls itself *socialist" ?
> Things like free trade have simply made it worse for them.
This claim clearly contradicts 2 centuries of economic theroy and experience, which clearly shows that the opposite is true. Free Trade increases prosper
I have a better suggestion.
People like Osama Bin Laden, and the like, do what they do, because they're fanatics. Fanatics produced by the terrorist factory known as "Islam", a "religion" where the name itself means "submission", and ideology, thats even more fascist than socialism and communism, an ideology, which even dictates how to wipe your own backside after a trip to the loo.
The claim that USA is ultimately responsible for the evils perpetrated agains it is old (red) hat - excuse the pun. It's in short, bullshit, sprouted by people who are pissed off that the free world won the cold war, and that their socialist dreams have been wrecked by their own mediocrity and arrogance.
International law ? Pah. There is no law without a power to enforce it. And since there's no international power, there is no international law. Claims to the contrary are delusions.
Besides, I dont believe in "hell". Not in the biblical sense, anyway.
While I appreciate the feedback, I cant say I like the essence of your comments.
You accuse me of elitism for suggesting that every webpage isn't useful, enlightening or even necessary. And you top it off with a bash at my opinion on socialism and a claim that I'm a loser.
Well, let me tall you something, Mr. Sivaram. Especially seeing your homepage where your style yourself as a leftist, which I assume is close to the socialism you bash me for objecting to.
The results of socialism in this world has been nothing but tragedy, murder and poverty. Every attempt to create the utopian society dictated by your ideology has resulted in failure and human suffering. USSR, China, East Germany, Cuba, Cambodia, Vietnam; North Korea, Nicaragua etc.
Opression of freedom and all that it implies, is the result of your ideology. And ironically you accuse me of opposing the essence of this freedom. This makes your criticim sound very, very hollow.
I'm a resident of Denmark; Scandinavia. This country is called the sumpremely most socialist/communist country of the world, due to the large redistribution of income here. You'd like to think that that makes people more equal. Allow me to explain some of the consequences to you:
- low incomes pay roughly 40% in taxes, "rich" people pay more than 60%. Car taxes are between 130% and 225%.
- almost 50% of the work force not employed, because the welfare is too big, which means it doesnt pay off to get a job.
- lots of tax fraud, because people are punished for working by our huge taxes.
- public sector is huge and inefficient. Out tax money are poorly spent.
- poor public health. long waits on hospital treatments, and many people die before they are treated.
- poor road system - many freeways are unsatisfactory or even hazardous to drive on.
- poor senior citizen care.
- poor childcare, no guarantee that there is even space for your child at the local kindergarten.
- poor schooling, declining standards of education, and unhealthy school buildings (fungi, rot etc).
- arrogant politicians, (expecially the leftwinders, such as yourself), who think people are their servant and not the otehr way around, as it should be.
- lots of immigrant problems, because the leftwingers (again!) prefer to call anybody who points out the problem of immigrant crime a racist instead of solving the problems.
etc.
This is your socialist utopia, Mr. Sivaram.
PS: You claim, on your webpage, that capitalism is failing and bound to collapse. Wake up from that ideological nap of yours. Even china has submitted to free market economics, because opposition to capitalism and use of planned economics made their nation an economic dinosaur, waiting to be eradicated by a free-market meteor...
Thanks for the feedback.
While I, after some consideration, agree with you, you are also implying I have certain opinions that I dont. You end off your comment by suggestion that I suggested to destroy "what we dont need".
I dont have any such intentions. I'm not in this discussion to promote destruction. My point is to consider if I have something to say before I put up something on the web (or whatever medium we're discussion). That is, instead of destroying data, as you suggest, I'd say, consider whether it should be made in the first place.
And I don't really think corportate politics or government control comes into this. That was certainly not my intention.