Smartphones and their apps track and trace peoples purchases, movements, social groups, etc. Apple itself is but a small portion of it but they created a surveillance ecosystem.
Google (Hint: the maker of Android) reads your mail, tracks your browser history, your shopping habits and your movements among other things. I'm pretty sure Apple is an amateur convention compared to Google when it comes to monitoring every single thing their customers do.
Actually, Apple has, and continues to, take great steps to NOT track you.
Even when they want anonymized statistical data, they have instituted cutting-edge techniques to separate the data from the user's, or device's, IDs. Here's some examples:
Smartphones and their apps track and trace peoples purchases, movements, social groups, etc. Apple itself is but a small portion of it but they created a surveillance ecosystem.
Oh, and what would that be?
If you are referring to iAds, that ENDED. And nothing else fits your meme.
Apples security record has been very impressive. The latest iPhones are probably the most secure mass produced device ever. They are made so even apple can't get the data, and neither can governments.
An great leap forward in marketing and in improving the efficiency of the surveillance state. It turns out spying is cheaper and easier if you let the private sector do it for you.
I am not an Apple fan. Not even close. I do agree that it was the iPhone that changed the market. However that was done by marketing, not by innovation.
Say that to the face of any of the engineers on the iPhone Project. I dare you.
Some of them practically lived at 1 Infinite Loop for the two-years that "Project Purple" was Priority #1.
Nope Apple was working on a full screen capacitive touchscreen device long before LG. It was in the labs for years. Jobs actually wanted a tablet first but they couldn't get the screen size resolution they wanted back then.
Anyway, it's not first to market, but Apple did a far better job of it. Android certainly gets the crowning achievement for market share around the world though on multiple devices because of the Apple Tax.
No, because of the glut of a zillion cheap-shit plastic burner phones, all running Android, and none of them worth even turning-on.
The LG Prada smart phone was winning design awards almost a year before the Iphone was actually released, and the Iphone looked almost exactly like the Prada and used the same typical smart phone interface. The only arguments that the fanboys have come up with are qualitative claims, such as the Prada's web browser or touch screen was not as "good" as that of the Iphone, and such subjective claims are not only dubious, but they have nothing to do with the innovation of the smart phone.
Nope. The LG Prada beat the later Iphone, but neither LG nor Prada had the legion of blind followers that Apple had.
Apple has actually originated very little.
Sorry. The iPhone didn't look like the Prada (other than the fact that they are both rectangular); but the Samsung phone looked EXACTLY like the iPhone.
I'm with you. Windows method is way too lax and broad, Linux is still clunky and complicated, just give me a desktop OS that has a phone-like permissions out-of-the-box. As long as I can override it as a superuser when necessary, I'd prefer all of my apps to be restricted to doing only what they ask me for permission to do first.
That's kind of what macOS has now.
Gatekeeper's defaults and macOS' warnings make it nearly impossible for a novice (or simply unwary) user to accidentally fall victim to malware. But despite that, if you have a SuperUser login/password, you are only a Right-Click away from overriding the Holodeck Safety Protocols, and installing/launching anything your little heart desires. And, if you want a more permanent change, you need only adjust Gatekeeper's settings for a more "relaxed" set of safety-protocols.
After the iPhone, every single smart phone is now like the iPhone.
Not entirely. Despite its flaws, at least the Android platform has avoided several artificial technical limitations. (Of course, avoiding malware because it cannot do much was not tremendously difficult for iOS.) But it is true that outside of these limitations, iDevices got closer to DynaBook than many previous attempts. It's just sad that Apple's policy effectively prevents them from ever becoming it.
Your dismissive reasoning behind the stark contrast between the malware picture on Android vs. iOS is both incorrect and oversimplified.
The entire Android security, OS updating, and software distribution model is broken, remains broken, and is unlikely to be improved before MILLIONS more users fall victim to its clearly inferior design and execution.
Not sure what you mean by old models are "obsolete"
While the hardware may be fine for some (most?) usecases and even the OS may still be getting updates, the market share of iPhone 5 and older is less than 10% of all iPhones in current use. So while the device may be OK for your purposes, you're certainly in the minority.
I think you will find that a lot of older iPhones, at least back to the 4s, are still in use as music players, kids' game platforms, remote-controls, and other non-cellphone-related uses.This tends to skew the statistics.
The used market seems to have nearly evaporated for them due to the hysteria surrounding the new models, so it is generally fair to expect each phone to have only one owner before going to disposal.
What? The used market for most smart phones much less the iPhone is terrible as newer models generally make the old ones obsolete. Especially in the Android market where updates stop much earlier than Apple's ecosystem. These days you can keep a phone longer than 3 years with iOS and might have updates still coming.The oldest phone compatible with the upcoming iOS 11 is the 5S which was released Sept 2013. With Android it has always been "depends"**
**Mileage may vary with manufacturer, model, version, and carrier.
Well, regardless of the market for used iPhones, at least it has one. Android, OTOH, doesn't have a used market; because Android phones are almost always obsolete, at least software-wise, even before they are released.
Or "queue", as in they're going to line up to bash. But the article deserves to be bashed.
" Thousands of software developers would be poorer"
And millions would be richer if they hadn't wasted their time on apps and instead took a minimum wage job.
Also, it never "put the internet into everyone's pocket." Android has a far better claim to that. And this sort of overhyped starry-eyed bs is why so many people love to hate on Apple fanbois.
Android doesn't have a far better claim to anything except as a malware distribution platform par excellence!
It might actually. Last time I looked at Apple's website it wasn't exactly clear what models were new-generation and what were old-generation, and since at times Apple has offered both I would hate to spend that kind of money without getting some of the advanced features.
All of the models on that page were 2016. Easy way to tell: If it has more than one USB-C port, it MUST be a 2016 MacBook Pro.
sure i am. they're becoming a pure luxury lifestyle company. i can't blame them really, as it's easy money, but it does make their products less useful to me.
Yeah, an 18-Core Xeon-powered iMac with a 27" 5k Display, Radeon Pro Vega 64 GPU w/16 GB of HBM2 Memory, 128 GB ECC RAM, 4 TB SSD, and 4 USB-C/TB3 Ports, PLUS 4 USB 3.0 Ports, PLUS a 10GigE Port is a "fashion statement".
Sucks is relative though. They keyboard on the MBP is HORRIBLE even in comparison to this keyboard. The trackpad on this is...not the worst thing I've used but I've also had laptops that were 2+" thick and had the 'upgraded' 800x600 LCD. It's pretty bad.
Hmmm. The reviews on the 2016 MBP keyboard have been generally quite favorable. And as far as Trackpads go, no one comes even close to Apple.
It only has a gimped mobile OS. And rather than expanding the tablet with a more capable OS Apple seems intent on crowding the Mac OS more toward being a mobile OS
Actually, with iOS 11, they seem to be moving a little more in other Direction.
1. "Files" App (Somewhat of a File Manager) 2. Expanded Multitasking and Multi-Window support.
And probably some other things I can't remember offhand.
Apple isn't marketing it as just a tablet (and the iPads are fine tablets, I'm happy with mine), they're marketing it as a laptop/laptop replacement. It's only fair then to hold it to the same standard as its competitors in that same space. If you're going to say it can replace my mobile workstation you better make sure your keyboard is up to snuff.
Read the reviews of the Surface keyboard. It sucks balls.
but seriously, you already knew that the iPad "Pro" isn't for you. you and i and most of slashdot didn't "need" this "review" at all.
and, yes, Apple is going to the shitter. shame really; i have ubuntu on my desktop and am not looking forward to having that be my daily computing experience. but such is life.
If you think Apple's products are going downhill, you aren't paying attention to where they are heading.
I want the ports of the Macbook Pro, but I want a physical escape key like the Macbook. I've had enough late nights in server-rooms where I want both the ability to charge and the ability to use peripherals like console cables and ethernet cables where having a single port and an even more complex series of adapters is much more cumbersome, so the regular Macbook is flat-out out of the question, but the lack of real escape key that is as intuitive as the rest of the keyboard is also out of the question.
For someone who's allegedly "had enough late nights in server-rooms", you sure don't read much tech-stuff.
Your prayers are answered. The first two models have TWO USB-C/Thunderbolt 3 ports (either port be used for charging), plus a Keyboard WITH AN ESCAPE KEY:
Slashdot Mirror
Smartphones and their apps track and trace peoples purchases, movements, social groups, etc. Apple itself is but a small portion of it but they created a surveillance ecosystem.
Google (Hint: the maker of Android) reads your mail, tracks your browser history, your shopping habits and your movements among other things. I'm pretty sure Apple is an amateur convention compared to Google when it comes to monitoring every single thing their customers do.
Actually, Apple has, and continues to, take great steps to NOT track you.
Even when they want anonymized statistical data, they have instituted cutting-edge techniques to separate the data from the user's, or device's, IDs. Here's some examples:
https://www.wired.com/2016/06/...
https://www.theverge.com/2016/...
https://nakedsecurity.sophos.c...
Smartphones and their apps track and trace peoples purchases, movements, social groups, etc. Apple itself is but a small portion of it but they created a surveillance ecosystem.
Oh, and what would that be?
If you are referring to iAds, that ENDED. And nothing else fits your meme.
I'm not sure what you mean by surveillance state.
Apples security record has been very impressive. The latest iPhones are probably the most secure mass produced device ever. They are made so even apple can't get the data, and neither can governments.
This. This. A BEELION times, This...
An great leap forward in marketing and in improving the efficiency of the surveillance state. It turns out spying is cheaper and easier if you let the private sector do it for you.
Mods? Dear GOD! How is the Parent "Insightful"???
More like "INsightful", as in TROLLISH!
I am not an Apple fan. Not even close. I do agree that it was the iPhone that changed the market. However that was done by marketing, not by innovation.
Say that to the face of any of the engineers on the iPhone Project. I dare you.
Some of them practically lived at 1 Infinite Loop for the two-years that "Project Purple" was Priority #1.
That's not marketing, bub.
Nope Apple was working on a full screen capacitive touchscreen device long before LG. It was in the labs for years. Jobs actually wanted a tablet first but they couldn't get the screen size resolution they wanted back then.
Anyway, it's not first to market, but Apple did a far better job of it. Android certainly gets the crowning achievement for market share around the world though on multiple devices because of the Apple Tax.
No, because of the glut of a zillion cheap-shit plastic burner phones, all running Android, and none of them worth even turning-on.
No, LG released something more or less identical to the first iPhone a few months before the latter was announced. The market was definitely going in that direction.
More or less????
A LOT less, you mean.
No. That's fanboy reality distortion field BS.
The LG Prada smart phone was winning design awards almost a year before the Iphone was actually released, and the Iphone looked almost exactly like the Prada and used the same typical smart phone interface. The only arguments that the fanboys have come up with are qualitative claims, such as the Prada's web browser or touch screen was not as "good" as that of the Iphone, and such subjective claims are not only dubious, but they have nothing to do with the innovation of the smart phone.
Nope. The LG Prada beat the later Iphone, but neither LG nor Prada had the legion of blind followers that Apple had.
Apple has actually originated very little.
Sorry. The iPhone didn't look like the Prada (other than the fact that they are both rectangular); but the Samsung phone looked EXACTLY like the iPhone.
https://www.wired.com/2007/02/...
http://money.cnn.com/2015/09/1...
So now what?
I'm with you. Windows method is way too lax and broad, Linux is still clunky and complicated, just give me a desktop OS that has a phone-like permissions out-of-the-box. As long as I can override it as a superuser when necessary, I'd prefer all of my apps to be restricted to doing only what they ask me for permission to do first.
That's kind of what macOS has now.
Gatekeeper's defaults and macOS' warnings make it nearly impossible for a novice (or simply unwary) user to accidentally fall victim to malware. But despite that, if you have a SuperUser login/password, you are only a Right-Click away from overriding the Holodeck Safety Protocols, and installing/launching anything your little heart desires. And, if you want a more permanent change, you need only adjust Gatekeeper's settings for a more "relaxed" set of safety-protocols.
After the iPhone, every single smart phone is now like the iPhone.
Not entirely. Despite its flaws, at least the Android platform has avoided several artificial technical limitations. (Of course, avoiding malware because it cannot do much was not tremendously difficult for iOS.) But it is true that outside of these limitations, iDevices got closer to DynaBook than many previous attempts. It's just sad that Apple's policy effectively prevents them from ever becoming it.
Your dismissive reasoning behind the stark contrast between the malware picture on Android vs. iOS is both incorrect and oversimplified.
The entire Android security, OS updating, and software distribution model is broken, remains broken, and is unlikely to be improved before MILLIONS more users fall victim to its clearly inferior design and execution.
Did Apple accelerate it?
Yes.
But don't try to sell me the Apple invented the smartphone bs.
They sure invented the Smartphone EVERYONE ELSE slavishly copied, and continue to slavishly copy, even to today.
Not sure what you mean by old models are "obsolete"
While the hardware may be fine for some (most?) usecases and even the OS may still be getting updates, the market share of iPhone 5 and older is less than 10% of all iPhones in current use. So while the device may be OK for your purposes, you're certainly in the minority.
I think you will find that a lot of older iPhones, at least back to the 4s, are still in use as music players, kids' game platforms, remote-controls, and other non-cellphone-related uses.This tends to skew the statistics.
The used market seems to have nearly evaporated for them due to the hysteria surrounding the new models, so it is generally fair to expect each phone to have only one owner before going to disposal.
What? The used market for most smart phones much less the iPhone is terrible as newer models generally make the old ones obsolete. Especially in the Android market where updates stop much earlier than Apple's ecosystem. These days you can keep a phone longer than 3 years with iOS and might have updates still coming.The oldest phone compatible with the upcoming iOS 11 is the 5S which was released Sept 2013. With Android it has always been "depends"**
**Mileage may vary with manufacturer, model, version, and carrier.
Well, regardless of the market for used iPhones, at least it has one. Android, OTOH, doesn't have a used market; because Android phones are almost always obsolete, at least software-wise, even before they are released.
Or "queue", as in they're going to line up to bash. But the article deserves to be bashed.
" Thousands of software developers would be poorer"
And millions would be richer if they hadn't wasted their time on apps and instead took a minimum wage job.
Also, it never "put the internet into everyone's pocket." Android has a far better claim to that. And this sort of overhyped starry-eyed bs is why so many people love to hate on Apple fanbois.
Android doesn't have a far better claim to anything except as a malware distribution platform par excellence!
Just in time for me to reach retirement age in about 5 years...
It might actually. Last time I looked at Apple's website it wasn't exactly clear what models were new-generation and what were old-generation, and since at times Apple has offered both I would hate to spend that kind of money without getting some of the advanced features.
All of the models on that page were 2016. Easy way to tell: If it has more than one USB-C port, it MUST be a 2016 MacBook Pro.
sure i am. they're becoming a pure luxury lifestyle company. i can't blame them really, as it's easy money, but it does make their products less useful to me.
Yeah, an 18-Core Xeon-powered iMac with a 27" 5k Display, Radeon Pro Vega 64 GPU w/16 GB of HBM2 Memory, 128 GB ECC RAM, 4 TB SSD, and 4 USB-C/TB3 Ports, PLUS 4 USB 3.0 Ports, PLUS a 10GigE Port is a "fashion statement".
https://www.apple.com/imac-pro...
But, It does happen to be beautiful, too...
A 13 inch laptop.
"Pro".
How cute!
Isn't it, though?
Just right for dragging around in a cramped server room!
It still sucks. I'm using one right now.
Sucks is relative though. They keyboard on the MBP is HORRIBLE even in comparison to this keyboard. The trackpad on this is...not the worst thing I've used but I've also had laptops that were 2+" thick and had the 'upgraded' 800x600 LCD. It's pretty bad.
Hmmm. The reviews on the 2016 MBP keyboard have been generally quite favorable. And as far as Trackpads go, no one comes even close to Apple.
https://www.theverge.com/2016/...
It only has a gimped mobile OS. And rather than expanding the tablet with a more capable OS Apple seems intent on crowding the Mac OS more toward being a mobile OS
Actually, with iOS 11, they seem to be moving a little more in other Direction.
1. "Files" App (Somewhat of a File Manager)
2. Expanded Multitasking and Multi-Window support.
And probably some other things I can't remember offhand.
Apple isn't marketing it as just a tablet (and the iPads are fine tablets, I'm happy with mine), they're marketing it as a laptop/laptop replacement. It's only fair then to hold it to the same standard as its competitors in that same space. If you're going to say it can replace my mobile workstation you better make sure your keyboard is up to snuff.
Read the reviews of the Surface keyboard. It sucks balls.
but it's priced like a laptop, not a tablet
So is the Surface.
sure, but twitter's "style" is actively antagonistic to content... :)
And IQ points.
but seriously, you already knew that the iPad "Pro" isn't for you. you and i and most of slashdot didn't "need" this "review" at all.
and, yes, Apple is going to the shitter. shame really; i have ubuntu on my desktop and am not looking forward to having that be my daily computing experience. but such is life.
If you think Apple's products are going downhill, you aren't paying attention to where they are heading.
I want the ports of the Macbook Pro, but I want a physical escape key like the Macbook. I've had enough late nights in server-rooms where I want both the ability to charge and the ability to use peripherals like console cables and ethernet cables where having a single port and an even more complex series of adapters is much more cumbersome, so the regular Macbook is flat-out out of the question, but the lack of real escape key that is as intuitive as the rest of the keyboard is also out of the question.
For someone who's allegedly "had enough late nights in server-rooms", you sure don't read much tech-stuff.
Your prayers are answered. The first two models have TWO USB-C/Thunderbolt 3 ports (either port be used for charging), plus a Keyboard WITH AN ESCAPE KEY:
https://www.apple.com/shop/buy...
See, wasn't that simple?