Macs have never had a "Walled Garden" approach. The vast majority of Mac software is still sold independently of the Mac App Store.
For now.
First, the Mac App Store was opt-in.
Then, it was opt-out.
Then, it prompted when applications were run if they weren't installed from the App Store.
Then it required admin access to allow sideloaded applications.
It's abundantly clear that Apple is using the winning formula from iOS and applying it to OSX. Slowly, of course, but mark my words: within the next release or two of OSX, you'll see at least a few of these:
-require a terminal command to enable sideloaded apps,
-prompt every time a sideloaded app is run without the ability to suppress it.
-require a third party patch of some kind.
-require some sort of jailbreaking procedure.
-threat of voided warranty if sideloaded apps are found.
OSX isn't a walled garden yet...but Tim Cook is absolutely building a wall. And his customers are paying for it.
Yeah, doom and gloom. Apple is Teh Evilz!
Heard it all before.
Right-Click and you can Run anything from anywhere. It's your funeral. Now and forever.
And your other points are centered on your usage needs and budget, narcisistic delusion affecting design...perfect example of the faulty thinking that leads to bad tech desgin.
Next!
I don't have a "use case" here, as I don't consider $160 reasonable to listen to tunes all day. I know that it isn't an unreasonable price, given other BT headsets, but it is past my personal price-point.
But, being a Developer myself, I do recognize that the AirPods are a solid design, and are better than most in the category.
Seriously, people are going to confuse this story with iOS 'apps', when in fact it's about full fledged computer applications on Mac OS.
Oops! That's EXACTLY what I did...
Why is this even a story, then? Macs have never had a "Walled Garden" approach. The vast majority of Mac software is still sold independently of the Mac App Store.
You are right about the placement. I have couple of nicer chargers that have multi coil designs and are angled so the phone naturally falls to good position. This works well, even thru a thick leather cover. Charging is slow but as I have charging pads scattered everywhere I never have a flat battery.
That said the Type-C USB is a huge improvement. I have it on my laptop and think it is great step up from all other USB connectors.
What kind of crap devices do you have that you have to have "charging pads scattered everywhere"?
I note the linked articles make no indication of what wireless standard they will use. Given that QI is used by almost everyone I would hope that is the standard they will follow, but Apple, being Apple, will probably see the need to introduce a new incompatible standard. I hope I am wrong about that,
I've owned a number of Qi devices, and while I love wireless charging, Qi is too limited. Too slow, placement is too precise, distance is too small (even a thin case slowed charging). I'm using a USB-c Nexus now; less convenient but fast charging and a plug which doesn't just piss you off.
I really hope that Apple goes with a far better charging system, something that gives you at least a few inches distance (better would be a few feet, maybe with beamforming?) and speed to match USB-c charging. If so, then other phones will get that too within a year and I'll be much happier.
You people who have the Nikolai Tesla-inspired dreams of "wireless power" simply do not understand the Inverse-Square law. Look it up sometime, and you'll understand why "a few feet" for transmission of real POWER is very impractical.
The Nexus 4 had QI wireless charging a few years ago but the Nexus 6 was the last Google phone to have it. I have refused to buy a Nexus 6P or Pixel due to the lack of wireless charging. If Apple introduces wireless charging they will, for the first time, be making a phone that I consider technically better than Google's offering. It would not be enough to get me to change to closed Apple eco system but may sway others.
I note the linked articles make no indication of what wireless standard they will use. Given that QI is used by almost everyone I would hope that is the standard they will follow, but Apple, being Apple, will probably see the need to introduce a new incompatible standard. I hope I am wrong about that,
I hope you're wrong. Fortunately, you probably are.
Qi is horseshit of the first order. I really hope Apple doesn't adopt it.
My wife's Samsung has had wireless charging for a couple years now. So has my Nexus 5. Several other Android phones as well.
Apple's not even "in the money" on this one - just an "also ran". By the way - how's that custom audio jack working out for you?
There are plenty of reasons that wireless charging is a really bad and inferior technical solution. So if you like it - fine. Use it, But you're strutting around like you own the world. Would you like the explanation?
By the way - how's that custom audio jack working out for you?
It doesn't bother me at all. Some whiners complain about not being able to charge the phone and listen to music at the same time. Hell, I'm rocking my tunes and posting this from my new iPhone as we speak. I don't see what the b
What bugs me is wireless charging. Presumably they will eliminate the lightning port entirely so instead of carrying a single USB chord with me that I can plug into any random USB socket to charge the phone, I now have to buy a $75 charging module to keep at work and another one to keep in my car. Chords may be annoying but they are not $150 annoying. Another gripe is that they want to eliminate physical buttons which I don't like. It was bad enough when Samsung did it... accidental input anybody??? Finally, if Apple starts charging well in excess of $1000 for their phones, everybody else who has a phone worth buying will follow suit which gives me yet another disincentive to upgrade.
Weren't certain configurations of the GN7 over a kilobuck?
My wife's Samsung has had wireless charging for a couple years now. So has my Nexus 5. Several other Android phones as well.
Apple's not even "in the money" on this one - just an "also ran". By the way - how's that custom audio jack working out for you?
At least I can be confident that Apple's implementation, unlike Qualcomm's horseshit, won't turn my phone into a grenade; by overheating the battery until it eventually shorts-out and does the hand-grenade thing...
A suitable suggestion for people who enjoy spending a multiple more on a set of headphones, and charging those headphones, and having a little case or some other means to protect those headphones then yeah that's a great suggestion. Other people might wonder why a premium phone device couldn't expend perhaps $.20c to just have a headphone jack built into it. Like every other smart phone.
Because if you want that 3.5 mm jack to be water-resistant, it doesn't cost "$.20c" (whatever that is).
And it is like "MOST other smart phone(s)." Apple wasn't even first to lose the 3.5 mm jack.
Sounds like you've spent far too long listening to your headphones too loud if you can't hear the lossy compression garble of A2DP. Aksi the already mentioned latency of Bluetooth. Makes video frustrating to watch when the sound is out of sync with what's on the scrern
That's why you need to ditch the junk and get some W1-equipped earbuds/headphones from Apple/Beats.
Bluetooth uses lossy compression on your already compressed audio, I've yet to find an implementation which sounds even close to decent earbuds. It adds distracting latency if you're watching a movie or playing a game.
In short is shite for the job they asked it to do.
Some BT headsets, including AirPods, use much higher-quality CODECs, like AAC, and they have done a lot to reduce the latency to near zero. The reviews of AirPods all say the latency is undetectable by a human when watching (and listening to) videos.
"get bluetooth" isn't a valid fix for several reasons
first, Apple didn't just remove a headphone jack, they removed a *universally compatible data port* that allowed for simultaneous, cheap, adaptable charging and using the jack for headphones or for an accessory like a Square card reader. Simultaneously.
removing functionality like that is exactly like if Ford removed all the doors on the right side of their cars...it's perfectly analogous in how it cripples the user
2nd, bluetooth runs out of batteries
3rd, just because *you* and your particular use case have your needs met with bluetooth headphones and one jack doesn't mean that it's a good design for all users, from the perspective of designing a system for users.
Square was WAY ahead of this. They released BT card-readers well-ahead of the Great JackOff of 2016. Next!
Your car-door analogy is ridiculous. Next!
If we're talking about AirPods, they run out in about five hours. Then you can pop them into their charging case for about 15 minutes and get another 2 or 3 hours. Repeat for 24 hours before the case needs to be recharged. If you can't do without your Tunez for 15 minutes, then you need mental help. Next!
You're right that BT isn't right for all people or all use-cases. That's why Apple included a Lightning headset AND a 3.5 mm Adapter Cable with the phone. Next!
Then I can charge the bluetooth headphones while charging the Apple Phone while listening to music. Who woulda guessed life could be so grand!?!
Oh my.that's what started the Bowling green massacre. Seriously dude, It's the wrong color for you, Steve Jobs is an asshole and your Chevvie can run circles around my Ford.
If the 10 dollar set of headphones is the determinant factor, then but a Samsung phone and revel in your wise purchase.
really? you are too dumb to figure out in what situations having battery-powered headphones would be bad? here's one: I'm getting off the plane. I have a conference call with some people as I am getting into the rental car. I put on my headphones, and bam - they are not charged. I have to be at a client site in 40 minutes, and that's how long it takes to drive. I can
1) make everyone on the call listen to car noise and sound unprofessional
2) drive with one hand, meaning I will show up w/o having breakfast, and get a ticket
3) be like you and work at mcdonalds. because I'd be a moron.
and by the way, the chord going from my fucking pocket to my ears has caused Zero problems for the last 40 years.
If you weren't a moron, you would have made sure your headphones were charged when getting ready to deplane, or just stuffed the INCLUDED Lightning headset in your pocket/carry-on as a backup.
Microsoft Developers have got to be the laziest on the planet. EVERYTHING that MS does is done for the ease of their Developers, regardless of what hoops or inconvenience it causes the User.
Given that in the this case the kludge only affects Microsoft developers, it forces other developers and users to go through exactly zero hoops.
Microsoft backdates their drivers so that they don't win timestamps and will only win on version compares. I think changing the order of the timestamp and version compares would be a simple solution, but I can imagine that they considered that and had some reason why that led to undesirable results. So they have a solution where they backdate their drivers and nobody else has to.
Oh, and please tell me how this Kludge ONLY affects MS DEVELOPERS?
In fact, I am pretty sure that it is almost exclusively USERS that are affected by this.
And to clarify, I meant "Developers that work AT Microsoft" that we're lazy; NOT the poor sods (like me), who have done something horrible in a past life, and so are now forced to Develop stuff FOR Microslop Products.
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Meanwhile in Android all you need to do sideload is check the "allow other sources" box and you can install whatever you want and keep it forever
And you can keep the malware forever, too...
so either pay 99 a year to be able to sideload software onto your device or redeploy it every 7 days. Not what i would call "perfectly legit"
WRONG, HATER!
XCode is FREE (assuming you have a Mac). Download it at will.
You can even get a Developer ID for FREE (useful in EXACTLY the "Sideload" Case above!).
The ONLY time you need to pay that $99/yr fee is if you SUBMIT APPS TO THE APP STORE.
Motherfucking Hater Dumbass.
Macs have never had a "Walled Garden" approach. The vast majority of Mac software is still sold independently of the Mac App Store.
For now.
First, the Mac App Store was opt-in. Then, it was opt-out. Then, it prompted when applications were run if they weren't installed from the App Store. Then it required admin access to allow sideloaded applications.
It's abundantly clear that Apple is using the winning formula from iOS and applying it to OSX. Slowly, of course, but mark my words: within the next release or two of OSX, you'll see at least a few of these: -require a terminal command to enable sideloaded apps, -prompt every time a sideloaded app is run without the ability to suppress it. -require a third party patch of some kind. -require some sort of jailbreaking procedure. -threat of voided warranty if sideloaded apps are found.
OSX isn't a walled garden yet...but Tim Cook is absolutely building a wall. And his customers are paying for it.
Yeah, doom and gloom. Apple is Teh Evilz!
Heard it all before.
Right-Click and you can Run anything from anywhere. It's your funeral. Now and forever.
My car-door analogy is perfect and logical.
And your other points are centered on your usage needs and budget, narcisistic delusion affecting design...perfect example of the faulty thinking that leads to bad tech desgin.
Next!
I don't have a "use case" here, as I don't consider $160 reasonable to listen to tunes all day. I know that it isn't an unreasonable price, given other BT headsets, but it is past my personal price-point.
But, being a Developer myself, I do recognize that the AirPods are a solid design, and are better than most in the category.
Seriously, people are going to confuse this story with iOS 'apps', when in fact it's about full fledged computer applications on Mac OS.
If McOS lusers are too stupid to understand, like I give a fuck.
THEN GO THE FUCK AWAY, COWARD!
Seriously, people are going to confuse this story with iOS 'apps', when in fact it's about full fledged computer applications on Mac OS.
Oops! That's EXACTLY what I did...
Why is this even a story, then? Macs have never had a "Walled Garden" approach. The vast majority of Mac software is still sold independently of the Mac App Store.
Apple needs side loading and a real file system that apps can use. If they want to make the mac more like IOS.
iOS has permitted Sideloading since iOS 8. All perfectly legit.
No Jailbreaking, and with Cydia Impactor, you don't even need XCode or even a Mac.
Try to keep up, willya?
10 counts?
If he sent 1 million fraudulent emails, why isn't it 1 million counts?
You are right about the placement. I have couple of nicer chargers that have multi coil designs and are angled so the phone naturally falls to good position. This works well, even thru a thick leather cover. Charging is slow but as I have charging pads scattered everywhere I never have a flat battery. That said the Type-C USB is a huge improvement. I have it on my laptop and think it is great step up from all other USB connectors.
What kind of crap devices do you have that you have to have "charging pads scattered everywhere"?
I note the linked articles make no indication of what wireless standard they will use. Given that QI is used by almost everyone I would hope that is the standard they will follow, but Apple, being Apple, will probably see the need to introduce a new incompatible standard. I hope I am wrong about that,
I've owned a number of Qi devices, and while I love wireless charging, Qi is too limited. Too slow, placement is too precise, distance is too small (even a thin case slowed charging). I'm using a USB-c Nexus now; less convenient but fast charging and a plug which doesn't just piss you off.
I really hope that Apple goes with a far better charging system, something that gives you at least a few inches distance (better would be a few feet, maybe with beamforming?) and speed to match USB-c charging. If so, then other phones will get that too within a year and I'll be much happier.
You people who have the Nikolai Tesla-inspired dreams of "wireless power" simply do not understand the Inverse-Square law. Look it up sometime, and you'll understand why "a few feet" for transmission of real POWER is very impractical.
The Nexus 4 had QI wireless charging a few years ago but the Nexus 6 was the last Google phone to have it. I have refused to buy a Nexus 6P or Pixel due to the lack of wireless charging. If Apple introduces wireless charging they will, for the first time, be making a phone that I consider technically better than Google's offering. It would not be enough to get me to change to closed Apple eco system but may sway others. I note the linked articles make no indication of what wireless standard they will use. Given that QI is used by almost everyone I would hope that is the standard they will follow, but Apple, being Apple, will probably see the need to introduce a new incompatible standard. I hope I am wrong about that,
I hope you're wrong. Fortunately, you probably are.
Qi is horseshit of the first order. I really hope Apple doesn't adopt it.
My wife's Samsung has had wireless charging for a couple years now. So has my Nexus 5. Several other Android phones as well.
Apple's not even "in the money" on this one - just an "also ran". By the way - how's that custom audio jack working out for you?
There are plenty of reasons that wireless charging is a really bad and inferior technical solution. So if you like it - fine. Use it, But you're strutting around like you own the world. Would you like the explanation?
Exactly.
Apple's not even "in the money" on this one - just an "also ran".
But it will require an Apple branded charger, so it is "innovative".
Wireless charging (when done right) is finicky-enough that I would WANT a "closed system".
And in an hour you won't be rockin anymore when you gotta plug in that charger and wait to rock out again because the port is in use
5 hours for AirPods (with a 15 minute charge to get another 3 hours), and some insane amount, like 99 hours, for some of the Beats W1-equipped headphones.
But if you get the $2 BT earbuds at the checkout line at Walmart, YMMV.
By the way - how's that custom audio jack working out for you?
It doesn't bother me at all. Some whiners complain about not being able to charge the phone and listen to music at the same time. Hell, I'm rocking my tunes and posting this from my new iPhone as we speak. I don't see what the b
What bugs me is wireless charging. Presumably they will eliminate the lightning port entirely so instead of carrying a single USB chord with me that I can plug into any random USB socket to charge the phone, I now have to buy a $75 charging module to keep at work and another one to keep in my car. Chords may be annoying but they are not $150 annoying. Another gripe is that they want to eliminate physical buttons which I don't like. It was bad enough when Samsung did it ... accidental input anybody??? Finally, if Apple starts charging well in excess of $1000 for their phones, everybody else who has a phone worth buying will follow suit which gives me yet another disincentive to upgrade.
Weren't certain configurations of the GN7 over a kilobuck?
My wife's Samsung has had wireless charging for a couple years now. So has my Nexus 5. Several other Android phones as well.
Apple's not even "in the money" on this one - just an "also ran". By the way - how's that custom audio jack working out for you?
At least I can be confident that Apple's implementation, unlike Qualcomm's horseshit, won't turn my phone into a grenade; by overheating the battery until it eventually shorts-out and does the hand-grenade thing...
Aren't they a little late to the wireless charging party?
There are a lot of engineering disadvantages to wireless charging, actually. They are just bowing to market-pressure, IMHO.
A suitable suggestion for people who enjoy spending a multiple more on a set of headphones, and charging those headphones, and having a little case or some other means to protect those headphones then yeah that's a great suggestion. Other people might wonder why a premium phone device couldn't expend perhaps $.20c to just have a headphone jack built into it. Like every other smart phone.
Because if you want that 3.5 mm jack to be water-resistant, it doesn't cost "$.20c" (whatever that is).
And it is like "MOST other smart phone(s)." Apple wasn't even first to lose the 3.5 mm jack.
Sounds like you've spent far too long listening to your headphones too loud if you can't hear the lossy compression garble of A2DP. Aksi the already mentioned latency of Bluetooth. Makes video frustrating to watch when the sound is out of sync with what's on the scrern
That's why you need to ditch the junk and get some W1-equipped earbuds/headphones from Apple/Beats.
Bluetooth uses lossy compression on your already compressed audio, I've yet to find an implementation which sounds even close to decent earbuds. It adds distracting latency if you're watching a movie or playing a game.
In short is shite for the job they asked it to do.
Some BT headsets, including AirPods, use much higher-quality CODECs, like AAC, and they have done a lot to reduce the latency to near zero. The reviews of AirPods all say the latency is undetectable by a human when watching (and listening to) videos.
ugh this is annoying...
"get bluetooth" isn't a valid fix for several reasons
first, Apple didn't just remove a headphone jack, they removed a *universally compatible data port* that allowed for simultaneous, cheap, adaptable charging and using the jack for headphones or for an accessory like a Square card reader. Simultaneously.
removing functionality like that is exactly like if Ford removed all the doors on the right side of their cars...it's perfectly analogous in how it cripples the user
2nd, bluetooth runs out of batteries
3rd, just because *you* and your particular use case have your needs met with bluetooth headphones and one jack doesn't mean that it's a good design for all users, from the perspective of designing a system for users.
Square was WAY ahead of this. They released BT card-readers well-ahead of the Great JackOff of 2016. Next!
Your car-door analogy is ridiculous. Next!
If we're talking about AirPods, they run out in about five hours. Then you can pop them into their charging case for about 15 minutes and get another 2 or 3 hours. Repeat for 24 hours before the case needs to be recharged. If you can't do without your Tunez for 15 minutes, then you need mental help. Next!
You're right that BT isn't right for all people or all use-cases. That's why Apple included a Lightning headset AND a 3.5 mm Adapter Cable with the phone. Next!
Oh wait. You're out of objections...
Then I can charge the bluetooth headphones while charging the Apple Phone while listening to music. Who woulda guessed life could be so grand!?!
Oh my.that's what started the Bowling green massacre. Seriously dude, It's the wrong color for you, Steve Jobs is an asshole and your Chevvie can run circles around my Ford.
If the 10 dollar set of headphones is the determinant factor, then but a Samsung phone and revel in your wise purchase.
Exactly.
really? you are too dumb to figure out in what situations having battery-powered headphones would be bad? here's one: I'm getting off the plane. I have a conference call with some people as I am getting into the rental car. I put on my headphones, and bam - they are not charged. I have to be at a client site in 40 minutes, and that's how long it takes to drive. I can
1) make everyone on the call listen to car noise and sound unprofessional 2) drive with one hand, meaning I will show up w/o having breakfast, and get a ticket 3) be like you and work at mcdonalds. because I'd be a moron.
and by the way, the chord going from my fucking pocket to my ears has caused Zero problems for the last 40 years.
If you weren't a moron, you would have made sure your headphones were charged when getting ready to deplane, or just stuffed the INCLUDED Lightning headset in your pocket/carry-on as a backup.
Lol at headline. I prefer anal to vag myself, but I don't think that makes me an expert on iFruit accessories, or does it?
You have confused an "Analyst" (one who analyzes) to an "Analist" (one who knows about, or prefers, Anuses).
Microsoft Developers have got to be the laziest on the planet. EVERYTHING that MS does is done for the ease of their Developers, regardless of what hoops or inconvenience it causes the User.
Given that in the this case the kludge only affects Microsoft developers, it forces other developers and users to go through exactly zero hoops.
Microsoft backdates their drivers so that they don't win timestamps and will only win on version compares. I think changing the order of the timestamp and version compares would be a simple solution, but I can imagine that they considered that and had some reason why that led to undesirable results. So they have a solution where they backdate their drivers and nobody else has to.
Oh, and please tell me how this Kludge ONLY affects MS DEVELOPERS?
In fact, I am pretty sure that it is almost exclusively USERS that are affected by this.
And to clarify, I meant "Developers that work AT Microsoft" that we're lazy; NOT the poor sods (like me), who have done something horrible in a past life, and so are now forced to Develop stuff FOR Microslop Products.