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Spammer Faces Decades In Prison For Sending More Than 1 Million Spam Emails (suntimes.com)
mi quotes a report from Chicago Sun-Times: A man has been indicted on federal fraud charges for allegedly sending more than a million spam emails. The indictment charges 36-year-old Michael Persaud of Scottsdale, Arizona, with 10 counts of wire fraud and seeks the forfeiture of four computers, according to a statement from the U.S. attorney's office. The indictment was returned Dec. 9, 2016, and was unsealed after Persaud was arrested last month in Arizona. Between 2012 and 2015, Persaud used multiple IP addresses and domains to send spam emails over at least nine networks, including several servers in Chicago, according to the indictment. He sent more than a million spam emails to people in the U.S. and abroad, using false names to register domains and creating fraudulent "from address" fields to conceal the fact that he was the one sending the emails. Each count carries a maximum sentence of 20 years in prison.
mi leaves us with some rather unpleasant imagery, writing: "Personally, I wish [the sentence] carried removal of 1 square millimeter of skin for each message instead."
mi leaves us with some rather unpleasant imagery, writing: "Personally, I wish [the sentence] carried removal of 1 square millimeter of skin for each message instead."
A good beginning.
15 years ago I probably would have been cheering this, but nowadays, a million emails is a drop in the ocean. Prison time for sending a million spam emails is fucking stupid, especially the potential of decades in prison. Seize his equipment, make "no more spamming" a condition of his probation, and if he fucks that up, then look at incarceration.
"BSD: Free as in speech. Linux: Free as in beer. Windows 10: Free as in herpes." --Man On Pink Corner in #52607549.
the punishment is a way too excessive.
Locking people up and throwing away the keys like this should be reserved for murderers, rapists, arsonists, robbers, burglars, politicians, Madoff types, and maybe a handful of others.
This is just wasting jail space, costing us money, and destroying lives.
Compare to the roving pack of Muzzies that participated in the marathon rape of the mother of two in Sweden. Her anus and vagina were so badly broken she wasn't able to walk at the trial and was confined to a wheelchair. Throughout the trial she had to excuse herself frequently to go vomit. They found a dozen men's sperm in her vagina and anus.
They got a few months each. Sort of puts this "spam" stuff into perspective.
die to the amount of spam. My company has given up on it. We're a Microsoft supplier and they support spam so they hate us.
Offer the guy gender reassignment surgery.
I don't like spammers either, but you need professional psychiatric help as soon as possible, seriously, you've lost touch with your humanity.
He was arrested and is out on bond, it's a long way from a conviction. And, Thailand might be looking good to him right now.
If you want news from today, you have to come back tomorrow.
Come on now, bro, all the one guy did was kill someone.
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While in prison, he should be given a diet of nothing but a certain fine Hormel product.
Just sayin'.
10 counts?
If he sent 1 million fraudulent emails, why isn't it 1 million counts?
OK, I don't like spammers any more than anyone else does, but this "mi" person is just making the news industry look bad with this type of evil bias.
I don't ever want to hear Trump say that he hates how biased Slashdot is....
Spam is the consequence of truly free system. To accept criminalizing of it is to accept a system that supports violence and totalitarianism. Nobody should have the power to dictate what you do outside of violence, theft, fraud, and coercion (threat of violence). Sending spam is none of these things and those who receive it even have a means of hindering it which is all the more of a reason for government to stay the heck out. When we let government in we end up with laws that get used for other purposes against completely peaceful people in ways we never anticipated. They get used against political activists for instance.
I have a great example of this involving child porn legislation. Outlawing child porn sounds like a great idea. At least if you blindly follow the argument child porn leads to child rape (which just isn't true, and there is as much evidence pointing in the other direction, but never mind that). The problem is these laws are used to persecute mostly innocent people from activists to children. The majority of people on the sex offender lists have never harmed another human being. They make up children on children sex (and children can't consent legally so... guess what that 17 year old raped that 13 year old despite the 13 year old lying about her age), non-sex "sex" crimes involving drunk college students pissing in garbage cans that happen to be next to playgrounds at 2AM, and paedophiles downloading child porn (ie not child rapists).
Ian Freeman whose one of the leading public figures in the libertarian activist community and whom has the largest radio show airing on hundreds of stations and around the world via satellite was targeted by the FBI via child porn laws. The FBI used the fact an internet connection for an activist center, business, and multiple apartments were in his name to raid his studio (Free Talk Live) and steal / shut down his radio program- and smear his reputation publicly. No arrests were ever made and the raid occurred just two weeks after a co-host attacked the FBI for being hypocritical in that they were *distributing* child porn while making the argument that distribution is equivalent to child rape. Hundreds of people had access to this internet connection and they stole a few dozen electronic devices of his, his business, his business colleagues, and some of his tenants. It's unlikely that anybody ever actually access child porn via the connection- but that doesn't mean anybody will ever get back their computers and the FBI knows the damage has already been done. This is the danger of such laws.
No- I don't like receiving spam- but I will accept it as a pro-proponent for a free society.
http://freekeene.com/2016/03/22/free-talk-lives-press-release-about-fbi-raid/
He will receive a continual stream of email. When he clicks on the "I learned my lesson" link in the proper official email he can go free. However, his email address will be public and I suppose people might send him email with fake links. Or long email, or malware that tries to destroy his mailbox. Gee it might take a while...
I don't ever want to hear Trump
FTFY
Who was paying this guy?
That's who should be locked up.
BUT
That will never happen.
They will just find another stooge to do their dirty work.
"...After eight years of being racist, dissent is patriotic once again..."
Dissent was never patriotic, it was just accepted as a by product of freedom. Now however PC hypocrisy seems to override all things.
errr....umm...*whooosh* *whoosh* Is this thing on ?
Where I work, the average employee receives nearly two hundred thousand spam messages per day. Email is just useless because of that. I doubt that the government would put a stop to something that so many people abuse.
Most of us grow up to learn that the viciousness you embrace is itself a burden.
A million emails is an incredibly small number. I've heard varying amounts of spam are sent everyday. Anywhere from 50 million to 200 billion.
Rather than put this guy in jail, I'd slap him with anywhere from a $10,000 to $100,000 fine.
How'd you get away?
Dissent was never patriotic, it was just accepted as a by product of freedom. Now however PC hypocrisy seems to override all things.
The cry has been that when war is declared, all opposition should therefore be hushed. A sentiment more unworthy of a free country could hardly be propagated. If the doctrine be admitted, rulers have only to declare war and they are screened at once from scrutiny In war, then, as in peace, assert the freedom of speech and of the press. Cling to this as the bulwark of all our rights and privileges. - William Ellery Channing (1780-1842)
If dissent at a time of war is to be ennobled as a principle of democracy, then surely dissent at a time of peace deserves the same treatment.
If it weren't for deadlines, nothing would be late.
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Where I work, the average employee receives nearly two hundred thousand spam messages per day.
Something is off -- I'm on many public mailing lists, git logs and so on, yet I see ~600 rejects per day, and my email server has a few other users. So either your company is a juicy target for a specific kind of fraud, or your number was obtained by scientific rectal extraction.
This. OP is prevaricating. Nobody experiences spamming on an individual basis with that frequency.
If it weren't for deadlines, nothing would be late.
Only question to ask: Who paid you?
Then recourse.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Everyone hates spam. Corporations were also tired of ineffective ad campaigns. The solution: find Out what people are interested in by tracking them. It cuts down on spam but a Faustian deal if you ask me.
You low-life bastard.
Sorry, bro, but ur off base. Trump STOLE the election because Hilary was hacked by the Russians. What part about that do you not get? All I see you post is ur "conspiracy theory" opinion on every little thing she might have done wrong. But in essence, your theories are all wrong. That's why you were modded down once and while you will be modded down again. Have a good day.
Throwing a man in prison for emails.
You also ban men from marrying cute young girls (something that God (not jesus) allows).
scum.
The election is over. The criminal slimeball you have a hard-on for lost, so you can be happy now. Hillary is no longer relevant.
Unfortunately, in the process of Hillary losing, Trump won. That sucks but oh well. He's done a couple good things, maybe he'll do more. Anyway, the election is over and he's President for the next four years.
In three years it'll be time to talk about candidates again. Hopefully we'll have a good one. Until then, let's talk about news for nerds, stuff that matters.
The maximum sentences are much too harsh.
A privileged college students gets caught in the act (by two other students) raping an unconscious woman, and gets out in what, 3 months? Spammers are annoying obviously, but decades for that...? I just don't get it.
'The unexamined life is not worth living' - Socrates
1 million? That's literally nothing in the context. It sounds more like what would be sent in ONE SMALL TEST BATCH before they actually started to do that each DAY, counting LOW... What am I missing? (Serious question.)
Seriously? Decades? People are getting less for murder and rape ...
It's funny 'cause it's rape!
This is exactly what the cat-o-nine-tails was made for.
People who pull off Ponzi schemes rarely spend that much time in prison. Why would a spammer have to? Usually the people behind the Ponzi schemes do very well for themselves financially before being caught, while the spammers are generally eking out an upper-middle-class existence.
Don't get me wrong, I don't have much pity for the spammers but I don't see justification in grave prison sentences for them either.
If we really want to say we believe in criminal rehabilitation, this is a prime opportunity for it. The spammers could work to right the wrongs they committed. They could be put to work developing better tools to stop spam - and not just more lousy filters. This guy got into spam for the money, have him show how the money moves so that the government and NGOs can work to reduce the profit margin of spamming. When it ceases to be profitable, the volume will crash as it won't be worth the effort for most spammers.
Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
So a guy who rapes a drunk woman by a dumpster gets 6 months, and what amounts to 20 seconds of spam gets a person 20+ years...what????
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I've got better things to do tonight than die.
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got 2 1/2 years for a decade of spamming has maybe over a billion dollars in fines/previous lawsuits over the years. a true human scum bag. but the guy from this artiels is scum also but a flea in a sea of spammers.
Jack of all trades,master of none
Is it against the law to send advertisement in the mail? Or is he being charge for using forge instruments like fake driver licenses and debit cards?
So we received some spam from this guy and now have to pay for him staying in jail for decades? WTF? Sentence to some public works cleaning roadkill. Fine bastard but sentencing to decades is effing stupid.
I obtained a $3.9M million judgment against him back in 2015. I identified over 5,000 e-mails transmitted by him using domain names obtained by fraud from NameCheap. That does not include e-mails using e-mails utilizing other domain name registrars.
I suspect that the number of spam identified by the FBI / DOJ is based upon the hosting providers that were identified in the indictment. I suspect that Persaud used IP space that was from registrars outside the USA to send spam that were not addressed by the current indictment.
Maybe the prosecutors thought that 10 counts at 20 years each is sufficient. If he gets 200 years, why do the extra work?
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I was responding to Mir's sig file specifically but your comments are spot on.
errr....umm...*whooosh* *whoosh* Is this thing on ?
What humanity? I hope they rape in the ass one million times till he drops dead.
I wish they gave a ballpark figure. Because 1 million seems quite low over 3 years. As someone I know used send 1 million SMS messages a day..
I would prefer that the punishment be an opportunity for any recipient of any of the mail messages sent be allowed to literally give the jackass an electric shock, each varying in intensity to keep him from becoming accustomed to the shock.
I was initially thinking each person be allowed a punch to jackass' face or gut, but damage may occur and that's unfair ;)
No, I'm not joking. I wish fucking asshats like this paid for their "gains" in equal pain and suffering for all combined, unwilling recipients.
Hey, severe punishment is used in other countries and we're seen in the USA to be "too civilized" to resort to such measures. On the other hand, the ones that wish to commit crimes know that they're doing so in a manner where the outcome won't be unimaginable and ruin them for life. I should shut up. I'll just summarize it with "I wish I were allowed to be on the appeals jury because you KNOW that's coming."