Rather incredible that Apple didn't catch this in beta testing. Clearly, it's bad RF engineering, but why couldn't they iterate the design?
Dumbass, it IS in Beta-Testing!!!
This WHOLE article is nothing more than FUD. We're literally talking about a product still in the DEVELOPMENT phase!!!
Anyone who has ever developed ANYTHING knows that there are challenges along the way. You work through them, or decide that the project isn't feasible. Period.
Really? Literally all my life apple have seemed focused on form over function; I remember nearly 20 years ago how Mac-zealots would claim that the single button mouse that apple used to ship with all devices was far better than 2+ button mice because having more than 2 buttons encouraged messy and inefficient design; then the same people acting like the release of the "mighty" mouse was the second coming of Jesus.
Back when Apple decided on the 1 button mouse, most people had never seen a computer mouse, and yes, there was PLENTY of research and focus-group-ing that showed that a 1 button mouse eliminated confusion.
How many times have you talked to an oldster, and had them ask "Is that a left-click or a right-click?" Maybe it doesn't happen so much nowadays; but in 1982, when Apple was showing the Lisa around, things were quite a bit different.
And BTW, MacOS (Classic) has fully supported at least 2-button (and maybe more) mice intrinsically since MacOS 8.0, released in July, 1997.
I dunno but Apple has always had this issue, one only need to look at the ways their cables fray or their poor antennas in phones for years to realize at Apple design is the priority over function.
Actually, their engineers are good enough to do BOTH.
There is that, but I have a sneaking suspicion that a lot of the smart engineers (both hardware and software) are slowly leaving apple to move on to more interesting things. There have been more fuckups than you'd expect from them in the last few years especially on the software side, and the level of innovation has been pretty much zero since jobs died.
Have you even BOTHERED to look at the innovation that IS there?
1. Most advanced facial recognition in a mobile device.
2. Smartwatch with built-in FDA-APPROVED ECG.
3. 64 bit Homegrown SoCs (with Homegrown GPUs) that are hands-down best-in-class.
4. Augmented Reality that isn't a joke.
5. Laptops with the most amount of I/O expandability on the Planet.
6. A mobile OS that specifically (and markedly!) IMPROVES the performance of OLDER Devices....and that's just off the top of my head. I'm sure I could spend a few minutes on Google and come up with about a dozen more examples.
Fortunately, the signal-of-Interest is VERY low frequency, allowing for some pretty healthy low-pass filtering. That, plus they no doubt can subtract all the 50/60 Hz hum off your finger, from, well everywhere.
It's quite nice; but I'm personally waiting for a non-Invasive Glucometer that actually works...
Good luck with whatever input your iOverlords deem worthy for the collective. I'm certain it will be stupidly complex, obscenely priced, and will become obsolete fast enough for you to always label it a rip-off.
That's really funny.
iOS is compatible with iPhones from the 5s and forward, and iPads from the iPad mini 2.
Let's see: That's from 2013 for the 5s and the iPad mini 2. A cool FIVE YEARS of FULL SUPPORT, and Counting...
After a few people try and make room for the 1GB+ worth of space iOS 12 requires to upgrade their five-year old device, they will likely learn the valuable life lesson understanding the difference between compatible and functional.
And five years of support on a device with a non-removable battery is like putting a 10-year warranty on car tires. It's a nice gesture, but ultimately rather worthless in the end. That said, it is better than ending support prematurely.
They're "available" because Apple tries to cripple older devices through software "updates" designed to do nothing but make them unusably slow. That's all that is. iOS only really works on two generations of phones: the new one they release with it, and the previous generation. Every earlier phone is intentionally slowed down even though they're "supported."
Hey Android manufacturers, this is one place where Apple makes every other smartphone platform look bad. Of the three mainstream flagship Android phones I've owned, I've never had one where I received updates for more than two years. Even my wife's five-year-old Blackberry Z30 received a security update three months ago.
I'm getting tired of watching perfectly good expensive hardware get the axe because the official software updates stop. I've tried third party ROMs, but they never worked quite right with my hardware. I'd be content just with security updates after two years, but even that appears to be asking for too much.
Now that my current Android phone is EOL, I do not look forward to the chore of replacing it. Maybe it is time to look a bit more outside of the Android ecosystem.
Hey Android Victims:
iOS 12 is available to EVERY iPhone made in the past 5 years. And enjoys a 700,000 : 1 Malware record compared with Android.
For all of the devices that Apple artificially slowed down with their "power stability patch" in OS 10.2.1 but then never fixed afterwards? No? Then fuck Apple. They pulled a shitty fast one to screw over customers, lied about their reasons for doing it, and then got away scot free.
Hey COWARD!
iOS 12 is available for EVERY iPhone back to the 5s and iPads back to the iPad mini 2.
That MORE than covers the devices that had Performance Shaping. Or would you rather just have had unexpected crashes, like all the Android Phones do?
It's a feature Apple stole from Samsung. That's really all you need to know. Most of this release are features that already exist in Android that Apple has simply copied.
Good luck with whatever input your iOverlords deem worthy for the collective. I'm certain it will be stupidly complex, obscenely priced, and will become obsolete fast enough for you to always label it a rip-off.
That's really funny.
iOS is compatible with iPhones from the 5s and forward, and iPads from the iPad mini 2.
Too bad macOS is nothing like its younger sibling. When a full screen application crashes (like a game), most of the time hard reboot is the only solution.
Being that the OS has cleanly closed the offending application is a big deal for OS security and design. Just like how you don't need to reboot your Linux system if your Application hits a Segment fault.
On many other systems, after your app fails, you can't trust the stability of the OS. And will reboot after a failure. Today if an App unexpectedly quits, we just start up again.
But for the end user even the expert, we don't care why the App failed, just that it did.
What?!? You don't want blue-screen Register Dumps???
Apple apps (including their own) actually crash constantly....
Apple's genius.. is that instead of an error screen, or message, the app just quietly closes...
Apples environment is mostly braindead, and they keep a lot of malware away from my phone, which is the main reason I use an Iphone over any android device.
People have almost universally been loving iOS 12, even in its early Beta releases.
iOS keeps a LOT of Malware away from [your] Phone?!?
Do you know about using chopper-stabilized amplifiers
Yes. They have incredibly low input offset voltage and amazing DC characteristics. Both of which aren't useful for ECG signals. ECG has no DC bias itself but also the electrolytic cell formed with your skin an electrodes gives a large DC bias to the signal which needs to be removed.
So, chopper amps aren't the right tool for the job.
or Autocorrelation? These techniques both work pretty well to retrieve signals that are actually BELOW the noise-floor. In fact, that's how Cellphones are even able to WORK at all!
Sounds like you're talking about the spread spectrum code division multiple access schemes where you cross correlate with the chipping code. It can get stuff many db below the noise floor. Unfortunately, my heart isn't multiplied by a high frequency chipping code, so that kind of thing is not likely to work.
You might be able to get heart rate from well below the noise floor by cross correlating with likely ECG signals at various beating rates and heavily bandpass filtering, but that would be rate only, not any kind of ECG trace.
Chopper stabilized amps also are useful for high-accuracy, high-gain applications. So yes, they could be useful.
Autocorrelation might not be too useful, though. IIRC, it is best if you are trying to recover a modulated carrier wave.
Apple is the one who negotiated a contract that allowed the copyright holder to revoke permission of people to re-download material they already purchased, and then failed to make that point abundantly clear to customers, while encouraging the "cloud only" usage via convenience and promoted usage patterns.
And if Walmart sells me something with an implied lifetime replacement guarantee, and then fails to deliver, then yes, they are liable.
So it is Apple's largesse to keep its own promise of redownloadability ? "Holding it wrong" is strong with this one.
Trusting Apple was surely the customer's mistake - I agree with that. Now, excuse me, Amazon's largesse that I paid for has arrived at my doorstep.
It is Apple's largesse to keep using THEIR bandwidth, electricity, etc. to act as a perpetual "Dropbox" for something that was Paid-for and DELIVERED ALREADY.
It would be as if you received your Amazon shipment, then THREW IT AWAY, then complained that Amazon wanted MORE MONEY to send you another one.
1. When the Customer Purchased the Movie, a File was downloaded to her iTunes Library. That file would have stayed there FOREVER.
2. CUSTOMER voluntarily decided to PURGE the File, instead relying on Apple's largesse in RE-downloading ANOTHER copy of the File because it knew she had Purchased it. Normally, this worked fine for Customer.
3. Unfortunately for EVERYONE involved, the COPYRIGHT HOLDER decided to PULL THEIR "MASTER" of the File, or at least Instruct Apple TO STOP DOWNLOADING IT.
Yes, it really does. If you buy an irrevocable license to something, the person you bought it from *can't* revoke it unless you violate the terms of the license. Physical goods are a bit more problematic as the goods can be physically recaptured - we call that theft unless the new owner paid fraudulently, but it can still be problematic for the legitimate owner.
A license though is a legal construct - it exists only insofar as the courts will enforce it, and the courts aren't going to enforce a copyright violation claim when the defendant is holding a signed contract giving them the license and you can't offer any reason to invalidate it.
Apple lost rights to distribute things through the store? Fine. That shouldn't mean they've lost the rights to maintain and provide access to the personal copies already sold and stored in their cloud. If it does, then that's a failure of their negotiation, or a failure to clearly enough state the limitations of their service.
APPLE revoked NOTHING. It was the COPYRIGHT HOLDER that did so.
Go bitch at THEM, FFS!
She was given a File that remained on her device, and would do so in perpetuity. She just THREW AWAY the file, then found that, when she went back to the iTunes Library entry to play it (which normally would have silently re-downloaded ANOTHER copy of the File (at APPLE's Expense!), Apple COULD NOT oblige; since the COPYRIGHT HOLDER had DE-AUTHORIZED Apple for Distribution.
So, you go to Walmart and buy a DVD. Then you throw it in the trash. Then you go BACK to Walmart to get another copy, only to find that they no longer stock that particular DVD.
I got the impression that Apple did not refund the money they took to sell other people's stuff. Is that not correct ?
They offered a couple of iTunes movie Rentals, even though they were in no way liable.
She was given a downloaded file as part of her purchase. She just made a mistake and threw it away, probably to "save space". And unfortunately, when she went back to watch the movie again, Apple could not re-download the movie-file; because they had, THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN, lost the rights to distribute.
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Rather incredible that Apple didn't catch this in beta testing. Clearly, it's bad RF engineering, but why couldn't they iterate the design?
Dumbass, it IS in Beta-Testing!!!
This WHOLE article is nothing more than FUD. We're literally talking about a product still in the DEVELOPMENT phase!!!
Anyone who has ever developed ANYTHING knows that there are challenges along the way. You work through them, or decide that the project isn't feasible. Period.
Really? Literally all my life apple have seemed focused on form over function; I remember nearly 20 years ago how Mac-zealots would claim that the single button mouse that apple used to ship with all devices was far better than 2+ button mice because having more than 2 buttons encouraged messy and inefficient design; then the same people acting like the release of the "mighty" mouse was the second coming of Jesus.
Back when Apple decided on the 1 button mouse, most people had never seen a computer mouse, and yes, there was PLENTY of research and focus-group-ing that showed that a 1 button mouse eliminated confusion.
How many times have you talked to an oldster, and had them ask "Is that a left-click or a right-click?" Maybe it doesn't happen so much nowadays; but in 1982, when Apple was showing the Lisa around, things were quite a bit different.
And BTW, MacOS (Classic) has fully supported at least 2-button (and maybe more) mice intrinsically since MacOS 8.0, released in July, 1997.
https://money.cnn.com/gallerie...
That means that Macs have supported Multi-button Mice for TWENTY-ONE YEARS!!!
Don't you think it's time to retire this particular meme, FFS???
I dunno but Apple has always had this issue, one only need to look at the ways their cables fray or their poor antennas in phones for years to realize at Apple design is the priority over function.
Actually, their engineers are good enough to do BOTH.
There is that, but I have a sneaking suspicion that a lot of the smart engineers (both hardware and software) are slowly leaving apple to move on to more interesting things. There have been more fuckups than you'd expect from them in the last few years especially on the software side, and the level of innovation has been pretty much zero since jobs died.
Have you even BOTHERED to look at the innovation that IS there?
1. Most advanced facial recognition in a mobile device.
2. Smartwatch with built-in FDA-APPROVED ECG.
3. 64 bit Homegrown SoCs (with Homegrown GPUs) that are hands-down best-in-class.
4. Augmented Reality that isn't a joke.
5. Laptops with the most amount of I/O expandability on the Planet.
6. A mobile OS that specifically (and markedly!) IMPROVES the performance of OLDER Devices. ...and that's just off the top of my head. I'm sure I could spend a few minutes on Google and come up with about a dozen more examples.
Yeah I know. The OP I replied to did not
Fortunately, the signal-of-Interest is VERY low frequency, allowing for some pretty healthy low-pass filtering. That, plus they no doubt can subtract all the 50/60 Hz hum off your finger, from, well everywhere.
It's quite nice; but I'm personally waiting for a non-Invasive Glucometer that actually works...
Then they'll get my $500...
Hint: here on Slashdot you can create a '.signature' so you don't have to type your name at the bottom of your posts.
Oh, and you forgot to include the body of your post in the above.
Oh, so clever...
Good luck with whatever input your iOverlords deem worthy for the collective. I'm certain it will be stupidly complex, obscenely priced, and will become obsolete fast enough for you to always label it a rip-off.
That's really funny.
iOS is compatible with iPhones from the 5s and forward, and iPads from the iPad mini 2.
http://osxdaily.com/2018/06/05...
Let's see: That's from 2013 for the 5s and the iPad mini 2. A cool FIVE YEARS of FULL SUPPORT, and Counting...
After a few people try and make room for the 1GB+ worth of space iOS 12 requires to upgrade their five-year old device, they will likely learn the valuable life lesson understanding the difference between compatible and functional.
And five years of support on a device with a non-removable battery is like putting a 10-year warranty on car tires. It's a nice gesture, but ultimately rather worthless in the end. That said, it is better than ending support prematurely.
Was any of that even REMOTELY relevant?
They're "available" because Apple tries to cripple older devices through software "updates" designed to do nothing but make them unusably slow. That's all that is. iOS only really works on two generations of phones: the new one they release with it, and the previous generation. Every earlier phone is intentionally slowed down even though they're "supported."
Hey, FUCKING ILLITERATE HATER!
You APPARENTLY Can't READ!
https://arstechnica.com/gadget...
https://9to5mac.com/2018/06/05...
No kindly FUCK OFF, Hater!
And you know that you're getting the update at the same time on your phone as everyone else.
And don't forget: Without CARRIER Crap!
Hey Android manufacturers, this is one place where Apple makes every other smartphone platform look bad. Of the three mainstream flagship Android phones I've owned, I've never had one where I received updates for more than two years. Even my wife's five-year-old Blackberry Z30 received a security update three months ago.
I'm getting tired of watching perfectly good expensive hardware get the axe because the official software updates stop. I've tried third party ROMs, but they never worked quite right with my hardware. I'd be content just with security updates after two years, but even that appears to be asking for too much.
Now that my current Android phone is EOL, I do not look forward to the chore of replacing it. Maybe it is time to look a bit more outside of the Android ecosystem.
Hey Android Victims:
iOS 12 is available to EVERY iPhone made in the past 5 years. And enjoys a 700,000 : 1 Malware record compared with Android.
Time to wake up, boys and girls!
For all of the devices that Apple artificially slowed down with their "power stability patch" in OS 10.2.1 but then never fixed afterwards? No? Then fuck Apple. They pulled a shitty fast one to screw over customers, lied about their reasons for doing it, and then got away scot free.
Hey COWARD!
iOS 12 is available for EVERY iPhone back to the 5s and iPads back to the iPad mini 2.
That MORE than covers the devices that had Performance Shaping. Or would you rather just have had unexpected crashes, like all the Android Phones do?
It's a feature Apple stole from Samsung. That's really all you need to know. Most of this release are features that already exist in Android that Apple has simply copied.
Prove it.
Good luck with whatever input your iOverlords deem worthy for the collective. I'm certain it will be stupidly complex, obscenely priced, and will become obsolete fast enough for you to always label it a rip-off.
That's really funny.
iOS is compatible with iPhones from the 5s and forward, and iPads from the iPad mini 2.
http://osxdaily.com/2018/06/05...
Let's see: That's from 2013 for the 5s and the iPad mini 2. A cool FIVE YEARS of FULL SUPPORT, and Counting...
Does this fix the frustrating every-few hours bluetooth sound gets chopped up and gurgle-y for about 30 secs issue?
Dunno.
Did you bother to report it?
Too bad macOS is nothing like its younger sibling. When a full screen application crashes (like a game), most of the time hard reboot is the only solution.
Liar.
Being that the OS has cleanly closed the offending application is a big deal for OS security and design.
Just like how you don't need to reboot your Linux system if your Application hits a Segment fault.
On many other systems, after your app fails, you can't trust the stability of the OS. And will reboot after a failure. Today if an App unexpectedly quits, we just start up again.
But for the end user even the expert, we don't care why the App failed, just that it did.
What?!? You don't want blue-screen Register Dumps???
What kind of Geek ARE you?
Apple apps (including their own) actually crash constantly....
Apple's genius.. is that instead of an error screen, or message, the app just quietly closes...
Apples environment is mostly braindead, and they keep a lot of malware away from my phone, which is the main reason I use an Iphone over any android device.
People have almost universally been loving iOS 12, even in its early Beta releases.
iOS keeps a LOT of Malware away from [your] Phone?!?
I guess "All" is also considered "A Lot"...
But I'm having fun. It's like pointing a wind-up robot at the end of your counter and watching it haplessly march off, with no ability to stop itself.
TL says crazy shit.
Rebut it with a link.
TL either claims that it's all lies or moves the goalposts, and the onlookers share their heads.
Repeat.
The fun part is never thinks that he'll get called on the crazy shit, then loses it in short order when he is.
Just so you're having fun... ;-)
Do you know about using chopper-stabilized amplifiers
Yes. They have incredibly low input offset voltage and amazing DC characteristics. Both of which aren't useful for ECG signals. ECG has no DC bias itself but also the electrolytic cell formed with your skin an electrodes gives a large DC bias to the signal which needs to be removed.
So, chopper amps aren't the right tool for the job.
or Autocorrelation? These techniques both work pretty well to retrieve signals that are actually BELOW the noise-floor. In fact, that's how Cellphones are even able to WORK at all!
Sounds like you're talking about the spread spectrum code division multiple access schemes where you cross correlate with the chipping code. It can get stuff many db below the noise floor. Unfortunately, my heart isn't multiplied by a high frequency chipping code, so that kind of thing is not likely to work.
You might be able to get heart rate from well below the noise floor by cross correlating with likely ECG signals at various beating rates and heavily bandpass filtering, but that would be rate only, not any kind of ECG trace.
Chopper stabilized amps also are useful for high-accuracy, high-gain applications. So yes, they could be useful.
Autocorrelation might not be too useful, though. IIRC, it is best if you are trying to recover a modulated carrier wave.
Apple is the one who negotiated a contract that allowed the copyright holder to revoke permission of people to re-download material they already purchased, and then failed to make that point abundantly clear to customers, while encouraging the "cloud only" usage via convenience and promoted usage patterns.
And if Walmart sells me something with an implied lifetime replacement guarantee, and then fails to deliver, then yes, they are liable.
You're full of shit.
So it is Apple's largesse to keep its own promise of redownloadability ? "Holding it wrong" is strong with this one.
Trusting Apple was surely the customer's mistake - I agree with that. Now, excuse me, Amazon's largesse that I paid for has arrived at my doorstep.
It is Apple's largesse to keep using THEIR bandwidth, electricity, etc. to act as a perpetual "Dropbox" for something that was Paid-for and DELIVERED ALREADY.
It would be as if you received your Amazon shipment, then THREW IT AWAY, then complained that Amazon wanted MORE MONEY to send you another one.
So they did not refund. Thanks for confirming.
There was NO REASON to "Refund".
1. When the Customer Purchased the Movie, a File was downloaded to her iTunes Library. That file would have stayed there FOREVER.
2. CUSTOMER voluntarily decided to PURGE the File, instead relying on Apple's largesse in RE-downloading ANOTHER copy of the File because it knew she had Purchased it. Normally, this worked fine for Customer.
3. Unfortunately for EVERYONE involved, the COPYRIGHT HOLDER decided to PULL THEIR "MASTER" of the File, or at least Instruct Apple TO STOP DOWNLOADING IT.
NOT. APPLE'S. FAULT.
Explain, then, how I am getting them for my 3+ year old Note 5 as well.
Don't know; don't care.
But they even went to Court to avoid updating them for FOUR years (and won, BTW) :
https://www.bbc.com/news/techn...
Yes, it really does. If you buy an irrevocable license to something, the person you bought it from *can't* revoke it unless you violate the terms of the license. Physical goods are a bit more problematic as the goods can be physically recaptured - we call that theft unless the new owner paid fraudulently, but it can still be problematic for the legitimate owner.
A license though is a legal construct - it exists only insofar as the courts will enforce it, and the courts aren't going to enforce a copyright violation claim when the defendant is holding a signed contract giving them the license and you can't offer any reason to invalidate it.
Apple lost rights to distribute things through the store? Fine. That shouldn't mean they've lost the rights to maintain and provide access to the personal copies already sold and stored in their cloud. If it does, then that's a failure of their negotiation, or a failure to clearly enough state the limitations of their service.
APPLE revoked NOTHING. It was the COPYRIGHT HOLDER that did so.
Go bitch at THEM, FFS!
She was given a File that remained on her device, and would do so in perpetuity. She just THREW AWAY the file, then found that, when she went back to the iTunes Library entry to play it (which normally would have silently re-downloaded ANOTHER copy of the File (at APPLE's Expense!), Apple COULD NOT oblige; since the COPYRIGHT HOLDER had DE-AUTHORIZED Apple for Distribution.
So, you go to Walmart and buy a DVD. Then you throw it in the trash. Then you go BACK to Walmart to get another copy, only to find that they no longer stock that particular DVD.
Is Walmart liable?
I got the impression that Apple did not refund the money they took to sell other people's stuff. Is that not correct ?
They offered a couple of iTunes movie Rentals, even though they were in no way liable.
She was given a downloaded file as part of her purchase. She just made a mistake and threw it away, probably to "save space". And unfortunately, when she went back to watch the movie again, Apple could not re-download the movie-file; because they had, THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN, lost the rights to distribute.