However the black box for the most part is sending and receiving open specification type of data. If Apple is going to hide that they are sending your conversations to some mega server somewhere they are going to do it. Source Code will not stop that one person to question the code. If that code isn't there.
However the open specification will allow people to see the output from that black box.
The point is the option should be there so that a person can look at it and say 'Holy shit, what the hell is this?'. It doesnt matter how many actually do it, what matters is that it represents a logical break. Without any way to look or alter the code, its a black box, forever. You dont trust a black box.
It is a black box with an internet-sized HOLE in it, you stupid FUCK.
Which is more betterer: Poring over Source code to try and find some obsfucated "snitching/spying" functions; or simply watch network traffic out of the fucking PHONE?
If you want to verify what is happening, then you should monitor all the wireless traffic your phone sends. Compare it in a quiet environment and one with talking. See if the data sent from the device is enough for conversations.
For the most part it is in Apples best interest in not getting caught betraying our trust in its security feature. The easiest way to not get caught is to not do the action.
Exactly.
And I just can't believe that Slashtards are THAT stupid to not think of that, instead of imagining all sorts of wheels-within-wheels and riddles wrapped in myteries inside of enigmas when it comes to ANYTHING Apple says, does or produces.
Stupid shits. The whole lot. (Not you, Jellomizer... YOU are among the few that "get it".).
and we will believe you. Until such a time as the code can be verified by third-parties, your word is utterly meaningless. Trust, but verify.
It's called a Packet Inspector. Can't snitch on the User without causing network traffic. And an iPhone tries to avoid using Cellular data when WiFi it is allowed to connect-to is available. So, all someone has to do is packet-sniff iPhone traffic while it is connected to a WiFi network.
Simple. Idiots.
Boy, Slashtards are deliberately obtuse. Anything to impugn Apple, right?
Oh, I thought it was the fault of the LG Prada. Afterall, all the Slashtards say that Apple COPIED the Prada, even though it came out like a couple of MONTHS before the iPhone was demoed.
No, Apple copied the variety of HTC devices that came out *years* before the iPhone existed.
Right. That's why the Slashtards ALWAYS point to the Prada. Which of course is bullshit, too.
You might as well point to the Newton, or a Palm xxx. Those had essentially buttonless control surfaces, too. Or, how many HUNDREDS of Sci-Fi movies and stories, back to the 1940s had some sort of touch/gesture display/control methods?
But all the Slashtards focus on the Prada. So, tough.
Ultimately, it's Apple's fault phones don't have buttons anymore, so I'll go with no.
Oh, I thought it was the fault of the LG Prada. Afterall, all the Slashtards say that Apple COPIED the Prada, even though it came out like a couple of MONTHS before the iPhone was demoed.
I've been eagerly awaiting ARM based Macbooks for years, but I think Apple will still use them to produce high margin products. While the CPU isn't cheap, it probably represents less than 10% of the total cost of the bill of materials of a Macbook Pro. That is to say, we might see $799 Macbook Airs, but we're not going to see $299 Macbooks.
That CPU percentage of the BOM cost is just a raw guess, and not even a sophisticated one. If the CPU goes from $185 to $20 (perfectly possible), then that $165 difference should be reflected in the MSRP as about $495 (at a 3 X markup over raw materials cost). That gives us about a $500 MacBook (non Pro) or MacBook Air. And, as they start integrating more stuff into the CPU and it starts becoming a MacBook SoC, the cost reductions just keep piling up. Heat is probably the only limiting factor.
My job is in security. And among other things, we do test and break security features of mobile phones. Unfortunately that meant that in the more recent past, I could not recommend using iPhones anymore. Which kinda sucks, because I really liked them. Cook insists in using technology that just isn't there yet, all for the sake of looking cutting edge and offering some flashy gimmicks that can be used in ads as a "look, shiny!" distraction.
Can you elaborate? What "technology that just isn't there yet" does the iPhone use that others don't? Genuinely curious.
Same thing with the emojis and animojis and whatnot. Yes, they're nice and sure, they were created as a side project somewhere, why not ship them? What I didn't get was how they were touted as the next best thing since sliced bread and a must-have feature, one that supposedly sells the phone. That was the bit I didn't get about them. Yes, they sure don't hurt, but... THAT is the selling point? It kinda makes you think that they're grasping at straws when they have to use that for their sales pitch.
Here's what I think happened with the Animojis and then Memojies:
1. Apple's Devs. wanted a way to test their Face-Tracking API (ya know, the one they were going to make Public for 3rd party Devs. to use in games and whatnot). Someone internally came up with the Animojies. Someone else showed it to "Marketing", and they thought it was great. Fine. Include it in the release build and the Keynote... Makes a cute demo.
2. THEN, Samsung comes along and jumps BIG TIME into the Animoji "feature", significantly "upping the game". Well, now it's WAR... Now, Apple HAS to respond, or all the Samsung fanbois will crow about "How much more sophisticated Samsung's animojies are than Apples, blah, blah. So Apple HAD to invest more time and effort into the concept, AND make SURE it was part of the WWDC Keynote. But you could tell that Federighi was pretty-much rolling his eyes the whole time. Perhaps as a non-native English speaker (although you did get the "sliced bread" phrase right!), maybe you didn't catch some of his nuances and quick-jokes; but I assure you, they were there. Rest assured that, deep down, Apple is just having a bit of fun. As long as it doesn't compromise privacy or security, Is there anything really wrong with that?
The removal of various jacks strikes me as unnecessary. it feels a little like an attempt to squeeze more money out of their users by forcing them to buy more dongles and accessories that in the end make the whole ensemble look simply unappealing. There isn't much gain in aesthetics if the main unit looks sleek, but the whole thing is a mess once it's assembled in a configuration that's actually usable.
Now here, you sound less like a serious Security Professional, and more like one of those AC Apple-Haters, with their ridiculous conspiracy theories. I like a good Conspiracy Theory as much as the next guy; but it just isn't here.
Bottom line: Apple wasn't the first to eliminate the 3.5 mm jack. They are just (as usual) ahead of the curve. They INCLUDED not only a 3.5 mm adapter, but also a Lightning Headset. So just HOW does that help Apple "sell more dongles"? They even priced their Lightning -> 3.5mm adapter cable at US $9.00, which is REALLY low-priced for an Apple accessory cable; so again, doesn't seem like "profit" is the motive here. People (including you, i guess) need to sit back and think these conspiracy theories through before you make fools of yourselves on the internet for all to see...
Jobs understood this. Back in the Jobs era, these were absolutely awesome systems. Personally, I don't really see that anymore. It gets clunkier, messier and overall it starts to feel more and more like what Apple tried to distance itself in the past: A cluttered, unmanageable mess like anything Microsoft made. I miss that "just works" factor that really made Apple stand out.
"it was INTEL that released LYING documentation for the 6-core i9, giving it the SAME TDP as the previous, 4-core i7 used in the 2017 MacBook Pro 15 inch."
It's not lying to put the same TDP in the documentation when the SKUs actually have the same TDP.
Hey, no worries! From what I've seen, you and I actually end up on the same side of disagreements in most Apple-related news, and in the case of today's news, we're basically just disagreeing over our opinion of how important the news is, rather than anything of actual substance. Plus, I recognize that I am raining on the parade a bit, so I get why you'd respond as you did. You didn't come across as being rude or anything of the sort. You were simply disagreeing for perfectly good reasons, which is exactly what I like about this site.
Exhibit 1: The iMac Pro. Jobs didn't do it. Cook did.
And it's largely-unrepairable garbage which they don't in fact even appear to have parts to repair. That's not pro.
Exhibit 2: 6-Core MacBook Pro with 32 GB of RAM. Again, Cook.
Also largely-unrepairable garbage, with a garbage keyboard. Also not pro.
Exhibit 3: Recent Mac TV Ads. Obviously, Tim hates the Mac.
A few ads do not a product make.
When Tim Cook made that comment a couple of years ago about the iPad Pro replacing the Personal Computer, he didn't clarify. In fact, an iPad Pro (or even a regular iPad) IS currently replacing MILLIONS of Personal Computers for those who just need an email, surfing and FaceBook machine.
Yeah... which means he's displacing Macintosh sales. You just supported the argument of the person to whom you replied.
1. Prove to me that you can't get the iMac Pro repaired NOW.
2. VERY repairable non-garbage. Get with the times, man! Go on Amazon and find yourself a nice SMT rework station. They are REALLY cheap now; to the point that even HOBBYISTS should be able to afford one! As far as a horrible keyboard, that's a matter of opinion; as is your "non-Pro" (whatever THAT means!) allegation.
3. Who was talking about "making a product" with the Mac Ads? I was simply pointing out that that that Apple has a continuing financial COMMITMENT to the Mac.
4. The fact that iPads are now a more sensible/desirable product for "light" computer users is not really bad news for the Mac. Because Macs have historically had a higher price tag than cheapshit plastic Windows computers, those sales (and the sadness that followed) usually went to NON-Apple products. Fortunately, those people now have a product that more closely matches their needs. IMHO, this does NOT cannibalize Mac sales to any great extent, for the reason stated herein.
I read the MacRumors article because—even though there was no point to it—it's still something I found to be interesting in my RSS feed, and I came here because I like the comments and commenters here (you included, and not just today). Why else?:)
Look, I like Apple. Between my wife and me, we've owned dozens of Apple products over the years, and I consider myself a recovering Apple fanboy (I stuck with them through the dark days of the mid-90s, which I now regard as fanboy-ism on my part). But I also like to keep things in perspective. This is a neat achievement, but it doesn't mean much, other than that Apple's stock is doing well today. If tomorrow it's back below $1T, it won't mean much then either, despite what the Apple-hating contingent might try to make of the news then.
Sorry. I just get cranky when I read all the over-the-top Apple-Hating ACs; and I tend to take it out on relatively innocent posters...
New Macbook pro has soldered storage, so it's a service nightmare again
Apple has no idea what "pro" means
Mac Pro was an experiment. Didn't work out so well. Some of that was Apple's fault; some of it was Intel's fault; some of it was the industry's fault. Dead issue. Next Mac Pro will be "modular", according to Apple.
Apple didn't have parts YET when the dumbass blogger DELIBERATELY ruined his iMac Pro about a month after it debuted. It is pretty normal for service parts and documentation to not be available at the same time as a new product launch. Now, if that is STILL the case (which I doubt) that's another matter.
Other laptop computers have soldered RAM and some even soldered SSD, too. It's an industry trend. Get over it. HOWEVER, any decent repair depot these days should have an SMT rework station (heck, you can even buy one on Amazon starting around $60 bucks!), and should be able to swap out a defective RAM chip or SSD module in about 5 minutes.Buy ANY piece of electronic gear made in the past TWENTY years, and more than likely, all or some of the components will be soldered-in SMT versions. Especially as the complexity of the component goes up.
Apple doesn't have any idea what "Pro" means? That's about a damned laugh, and your OPINION, besides! For example: Name another laptop with more I/O expandability than the MacBook Pro. I'll wait. It's not all about the beige tower computers of 1990, ya know.
Again, we seem to have diverging ideas what 'innovate' is supposed to mean.
They will continue to produce new gimmicky toys if Cook stays true to his line so far. Whether they will sell them depends on whether this is actually what Apple users really want. I know I wanted an iPhone back when the first came out. I also know I don't want an iPhone X.
Sorry, English is only my third language. Peut-être nous pouvons continuer en Francais? Oder wäre Dir Deutsch lieber?
So I used a word wrong. Could we get back to the discussion?
Ok, consider me duly chastised and embarrassed! I REALLY am sorry I was "mean" about your word-usage!
And yes, your English is a LOT better than my French and German!!! (Of which I know essentially zero...);-)
So, no, I would not like to continue in French nor German (but I didn't have to go to Google translate to figure those out at least!)
Now where were we?
So, I am not sure why you think that later-generation iPhones ("Cook Phones", if you will), fail in the "Functionality" department. If you are referring to the removal of the headphone jack, there are pluses and minuses to that; but in their defense, Apple DID provide TWO in-the-box solutions for everything but the (really rare and overblown) "need" to be able to charge through the Lightning jack while simultaneously listening to music (because, Goddess forbid, you take a half-hour break from your music to charge your phone up 50%!).
And if you are talking about software "toys" like Animojis or Memojies, that probably just started off in the Lab as a cute internal test of the Face-Tracking capabilities of FaceID, and someone saw it and said "Yeah, keep it in!" I seriously don't think it is anything more considered than that. Craig Federighi's attitude during the demo of the original Animoji demo and the recent Memoji demo shows that Apple doesn't really take the "feature" seriously, either...
Other than that, the iPhone and iPad (and Macs), and their respective OSes, just keep getting faster and more feature-filled. And that's EXACTLY what SHOULD be happening.
So, in short: I really don't get what you mean; and it doesn't help that you really didn't cite any concrete examples of your allegations.
I don't know that it actually does carry any significance. The fact that inflation is a pretty steady thing made it an inevitability that someone would cross the mark eventually. If not Apple, then Amazon and Google look to be on track to do so in the near-ish future as well. Plus, technically speaking, Apple is NOT the first to cross that threshold. That honor goes to PetroChina, who crossed the trillion dollar mark way back in 2007, though admittedly only for a day. In terms of inflation-adjusted dollars, Apple would need to gain yet another $145M in market cap before they would break PetroChina's record.
It's a big number, to be sure, but other than the vanity of it, I really don't see a point.
Then why did you feel compelled to read the article and comment on it?
The anti-Cook faction exists because Tim Cook seems to be in the anti-Macs faction.
Sure.
Exhibit 1: The iMac Pro. Jobs didn't do it. Cook did.
Exhibit 2: 6-Core MacBook Pro with 32 GB of RAM. Again, Cook.
Exhibit 3: Recent Mac TV Ads. Obviously, Tim hates the Mac.
When Tim Cook made that comment a couple of years ago about the iPad Pro replacing the Personal Computer, he didn't clarify. In fact, an iPad Pro (or even a regular iPad) IS currently replacing MILLIONS of Personal Computers for those who just need an email, surfing and FaceBook machine. Particularly (but not exclusively) older, non-techie people; who simply don't NEED a full-blown computer, with all the complexity and trappings of a fully-exposed filesystem, complex Applications, and inconvenience of having to go where the computer is, instead of picking up an iPad, and having it ready-to-go by the time your finger reaches out to the display. And (let's not forget this!) the ability to EASILY move the display closer so that elderly eyes can read it(!!!)
[...] And that's very sad, that such a money-making personal computer happens to be so horrifically crippled and locked in.
Um, HOW is the Mac (you said "personal computer"; so I assume you mean Macs, not iPhones) either "horrifically crippled" or "locked in"?
"Locked in"? To WHAT?!? You can literally legally run more OSes (and even conveniently switch between them using the Mac's built-in Bootloader) on Macs than ANY other computer. You can purchase Applications from anywhere on the planet, and even write your own with Apple's FREE IDE (a Developer License only costs money if you want to submit Apps to the Apple App Store). So, where EXACTLY is the "Lock In"?
"Horrifically Crippled"? Well, since you didn't mention any specific models, it is impossible to know what was in that little pea-brain of yours when you vomited out that Apple-Hating bile; but here's some examples:
1. iMac Pro: Released in December, 2017. Pretty damn nice specs, if a bit pricey (but price != "crippling"). Up to 18 core Xeon CPU (that wasn't even really released when they started taking orders for the iMac Pro; so it doesn't get any "fresher" than that!), with a AMD Vega 56 or 64 GPU that was released about a month before the iMac Pro was released. Up to 128 GB of ECC RAM And with a built-in 5k display, with USB-C/TB3, USB-A and 10GigE ports, plus analog audio.
2. MacBook Pro: Last updated about 3 weeks ago. Up to a 6-core i9 CPU. Up to 4 TB of SSD (the fastest in any laptop!) and 32 GB of RAM. AMD Radeon GPUs that can drive up to TWO 5K external displays, PLUS the internal display. And don't forget the whopping 80 Gb/sec I/O Bandwidth, which can be easily and inexpensively (and non-Apple-specifically!) broken-out into up to FIFTY TWO Simultaneous Ports(!!!), in any one of a myriad of combinations (according to the USER's needs; not Apple's whims), and which can even be changed as the User's needs change. This is REALLY unique. Yes, other laptops have USB-C (and some even TB3); but NONE have Apple's FOUR full-speed USB-C/TB3 Ports. Oh, and don't forget, with the recent Refresh, Apple even doubled the number of cores AND the number of full-speed USB-C/TB3 Ports on the 13 inch MacBook Pro; further "UN-crippling" it... Oh, and I almost forgot: The TouchBar and TouchID (an Application-Configurable, unique touch input/display device, which provides a modicum of Touch control without stealing Screen real-estate) and the convenience and security of Apple's excellent Fingerprint sensor. How is ANY of that "Horrifically Crippled"?
Apple has officially become the world's only trillion dollar publicly traded company, in terms of market capitalization, which is simply the company's number of outstanding shares multiplied by its stock price. [...] As with most milestones of this nature, however, Apple reaching exactly a trillion dollar market cap doesn't have too much significance, beyond the vanity of it.
Pretty much sums it up.
It certainly has a relative significance in the stock market; considering they are the first company of ANY kind in HISTORY to achieve that milestone.
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However the black box for the most part is sending and receiving open specification type of data.
If Apple is going to hide that they are sending your conversations to some mega server somewhere they are going to do it. Source Code will not stop that one person to question the code. If that code isn't there.
However the open specification will allow people to see the output from that black box.
Again, Exactly.
The point is the option should be there so that a person can look at it and say 'Holy shit, what the hell is this?'. It doesnt matter how many actually do it, what matters is that it represents a logical break. Without any way to look or alter the code, its a black box, forever. You dont trust a black box.
It is a black box with an internet-sized HOLE in it, you stupid FUCK.
Which is more betterer: Poring over Source code to try and find some obsfucated "snitching/spying" functions; or simply watch network traffic out of the fucking PHONE?
Idiots.
If you want to verify what is happening, then you should monitor all the wireless traffic your phone sends. Compare it in a quiet environment and one with talking. See if the data sent from the device is enough for conversations.
For the most part it is in Apples best interest in not getting caught betraying our trust in its security feature. The easiest way to not get caught is to not do the action.
Exactly.
And I just can't believe that Slashtards are THAT stupid to not think of that, instead of imagining all sorts of wheels-within-wheels and riddles wrapped in myteries inside of enigmas when it comes to ANYTHING Apple says, does or produces.
Stupid shits. The whole lot. (Not you, Jellomizer... YOU are among the few that "get it".).
and we will believe you. Until such a time as the code can be verified by third-parties, your word is utterly meaningless. Trust, but verify.
It's called a Packet Inspector. Can't snitch on the User without causing network traffic. And an iPhone tries to avoid using Cellular data when WiFi it is allowed to connect-to is available. So, all someone has to do is packet-sniff iPhone traffic while it is connected to a WiFi network.
Simple. Idiots.
Boy, Slashtards are deliberately obtuse. Anything to impugn Apple, right?
Oh, I thought it was the fault of the LG Prada. Afterall, all the Slashtards say that Apple COPIED the Prada, even though it came out like a couple of MONTHS before the iPhone was demoed.
No, Apple copied the variety of HTC devices that came out *years* before the iPhone existed.
Right. That's why the Slashtards ALWAYS point to the Prada. Which of course is bullshit, too.
You might as well point to the Newton, or a Palm xxx. Those had essentially buttonless control surfaces, too. Or, how many HUNDREDS of Sci-Fi movies and stories, back to the 1940s had some sort of touch/gesture display/control methods?
But all the Slashtards focus on the Prada. So, tough.
Ultimately, it's Apple's fault phones don't have buttons anymore, so I'll go with no.
Oh, I thought it was the fault of the LG Prada. Afterall, all the Slashtards say that Apple COPIED the Prada, even though it came out like a couple of MONTHS before the iPhone was demoed.
I've been eagerly awaiting ARM based Macbooks for years, but I think Apple will still use them to produce high margin products. While the CPU isn't cheap, it probably represents less than 10% of the total cost of the bill of materials of a Macbook Pro. That is to say, we might see $799 Macbook Airs, but we're not going to see $299 Macbooks.
That CPU percentage of the BOM cost is just a raw guess, and not even a sophisticated one. If the CPU goes from $185 to $20 (perfectly possible), then that $165 difference should be reflected in the MSRP as about $495 (at a 3 X markup over raw materials cost). That gives us about a $500 MacBook (non Pro) or MacBook Air. And, as they start integrating more stuff into the CPU and it starts becoming a MacBook SoC, the cost reductions just keep piling up. Heat is probably the only limiting factor.
This makes me even happier that I ditched Facebook 9 months ago never to return.
Only 9 months ago? Pfttt! I quit Facebook well before it was the 'cool' thing to do.
I never joined. Saw it for what it was right from the start. Samething with Twitter and all the rest of "Social Media".
My job is in security. And among other things, we do test and break security features of mobile phones. Unfortunately that meant that in the more recent past, I could not recommend using iPhones anymore. Which kinda sucks, because I really liked them. Cook insists in using technology that just isn't there yet, all for the sake of looking cutting edge and offering some flashy gimmicks that can be used in ads as a "look, shiny!" distraction.
Can you elaborate? What "technology that just isn't there yet" does the iPhone use that others don't? Genuinely curious.
Same thing with the emojis and animojis and whatnot. Yes, they're nice and sure, they were created as a side project somewhere, why not ship them? What I didn't get was how they were touted as the next best thing since sliced bread and a must-have feature, one that supposedly sells the phone. That was the bit I didn't get about them. Yes, they sure don't hurt, but ... THAT is the selling point? It kinda makes you think that they're grasping at straws when they have to use that for their sales pitch.
Here's what I think happened with the Animojis and then Memojies:
1. Apple's Devs. wanted a way to test their Face-Tracking API (ya know, the one they were going to make Public for 3rd party Devs. to use in games and whatnot). Someone internally came up with the Animojies. Someone else showed it to "Marketing", and they thought it was great. Fine. Include it in the release build and the Keynote... Makes a cute demo.
2. THEN, Samsung comes along and jumps BIG TIME into the Animoji "feature", significantly "upping the game". Well, now it's WAR... Now, Apple HAS to respond, or all the Samsung fanbois will crow about "How much more sophisticated Samsung's animojies are than Apples, blah, blah. So Apple HAD to invest more time and effort into the concept, AND make SURE it was part of the WWDC Keynote. But you could tell that Federighi was pretty-much rolling his eyes the whole time. Perhaps as a non-native English speaker (although you did get the "sliced bread" phrase right!), maybe you didn't catch some of his nuances and quick-jokes; but I assure you, they were there. Rest assured that, deep down, Apple is just having a bit of fun. As long as it doesn't compromise privacy or security, Is there anything really wrong with that?
The removal of various jacks strikes me as unnecessary. it feels a little like an attempt to squeeze more money out of their users by forcing them to buy more dongles and accessories that in the end make the whole ensemble look simply unappealing. There isn't much gain in aesthetics if the main unit looks sleek, but the whole thing is a mess once it's assembled in a configuration that's actually usable.
Now here, you sound less like a serious Security Professional, and more like one of those AC Apple-Haters, with their ridiculous conspiracy theories. I like a good Conspiracy Theory as much as the next guy; but it just isn't here.
Bottom line: Apple wasn't the first to eliminate the 3.5 mm jack. They are just (as usual) ahead of the curve. They INCLUDED not only a 3.5 mm adapter, but also a Lightning Headset. So just HOW does that help Apple "sell more dongles"? They even priced their Lightning -> 3.5mm adapter cable at US $9.00, which is REALLY low-priced for an Apple accessory cable; so again, doesn't seem like "profit" is the motive here. People (including you, i guess) need to sit back and think these conspiracy theories through before you make fools of yourselves on the internet for all to see...
Jobs understood this. Back in the Jobs era, these were absolutely awesome systems. Personally, I don't really see that anymore. It gets clunkier, messier and overall it starts to feel more and more like what Apple tried to distance itself in the past: A cluttered, unmanageable mess like anything Microsoft made. I miss that "just works" factor that really made Apple stand out.
he pointed out that others found it, i didnt say he did.
You also believe in russians too ?
I believe there are Russians, yes; don't you?
"it was INTEL that released LYING documentation for the 6-core i9, giving it the SAME TDP as the previous, 4-core i7 used in the 2017 MacBook Pro 15 inch."
It's not lying to put the same TDP in the documentation when the SKUs actually have the same TDP.
But obviously they DON'T.
Searching for "imac pro repair" gives 14.1 million results and the first few have these titles:
Popular YouTuber Says Apple Won't Fix His iMac Pro Damaged While Disassembled (he's not saying they won't repair it for free, he's saying they won't repair it even if he's paying for the repair).
Is Apple's behavior ILLEGAL?? - iMac Pro Repair Pt. 2
Apple refuses to fix iMac Pro damaged in YouTube teardown
Canadian YouTuber Denied iMac Pro Repair By Apple Over ‘Policy’ Issues [VIDEO]
The Apple Store Genius Bar Broke My $5,000 iMac Pro
Aren't those all echoing the same blogger?
Hey, no worries! From what I've seen, you and I actually end up on the same side of disagreements in most Apple-related news, and in the case of today's news, we're basically just disagreeing over our opinion of how important the news is, rather than anything of actual substance. Plus, I recognize that I am raining on the parade a bit, so I get why you'd respond as you did. You didn't come across as being rude or anything of the sort. You were simply disagreeing for perfectly good reasons, which is exactly what I like about this site.
Thanks ;-)
iMac Pro: Released in December, 2017... Up to 18 core Xeon CPU
That's the best they could do? 32 core Epycs were already out.
That's comparing Intels and AMDs. Apple doesn't do AMD for CPU
Exhibit 1: The iMac Pro. Jobs didn't do it. Cook did.
And it's largely-unrepairable garbage which they don't in fact even appear to have parts to repair. That's not pro.
Exhibit 2: 6-Core MacBook Pro with 32 GB of RAM. Again, Cook.
Also largely-unrepairable garbage, with a garbage keyboard. Also not pro.
Exhibit 3: Recent Mac TV Ads. Obviously, Tim hates the Mac.
A few ads do not a product make.
When Tim Cook made that comment a couple of years ago about the iPad Pro replacing the Personal Computer, he didn't clarify. In fact, an iPad Pro (or even a regular iPad) IS currently replacing MILLIONS of Personal Computers for those who just need an email, surfing and FaceBook machine.
Yeah... which means he's displacing Macintosh sales. You just supported the argument of the person to whom you replied.
1. Prove to me that you can't get the iMac Pro repaired NOW.
2. VERY repairable non-garbage. Get with the times, man! Go on Amazon and find yourself a nice SMT rework station. They are REALLY cheap now; to the point that even HOBBYISTS should be able to afford one! As far as a horrible keyboard, that's a matter of opinion; as is your "non-Pro" (whatever THAT means!) allegation.
3. Who was talking about "making a product" with the Mac Ads? I was simply pointing out that that that Apple has a continuing financial COMMITMENT to the Mac.
4. The fact that iPads are now a more sensible/desirable product for "light" computer users is not really bad news for the Mac. Because Macs have historically had a higher price tag than cheapshit plastic Windows computers, those sales (and the sadness that followed) usually went to NON-Apple products. Fortunately, those people now have a product that more closely matches their needs. IMHO, this does NOT cannibalize Mac sales to any great extent, for the reason stated herein.
I read the MacRumors article because—even though there was no point to it—it's still something I found to be interesting in my RSS feed, and I came here because I like the comments and commenters here (you included, and not just today). Why else? :)
Look, I like Apple. Between my wife and me, we've owned dozens of Apple products over the years, and I consider myself a recovering Apple fanboy (I stuck with them through the dark days of the mid-90s, which I now regard as fanboy-ism on my part). But I also like to keep things in perspective. This is a neat achievement, but it doesn't mean much, other than that Apple's stock is doing well today. If tomorrow it's back below $1T, it won't mean much then either, despite what the Apple-hating contingent might try to make of the news then.
Sorry. I just get cranky when I read all the over-the-top Apple-Hating ACs; and I tend to take it out on relatively innocent posters...
Trashcan mac is a nightmare to expand or service.
Apple doesn't have parts for the iMac pro
New Macbook pro has soldered storage, so it's a service nightmare again
Apple has no idea what "pro" means
Mac Pro was an experiment. Didn't work out so well. Some of that was Apple's fault; some of it was Intel's fault; some of it was the industry's fault. Dead issue. Next Mac Pro will be "modular", according to Apple.
Apple didn't have parts YET when the dumbass blogger DELIBERATELY ruined his iMac Pro about a month after it debuted. It is pretty normal for service parts and documentation to not be available at the same time as a new product launch. Now, if that is STILL the case (which I doubt) that's another matter.
Other laptop computers have soldered RAM and some even soldered SSD, too. It's an industry trend. Get over it. HOWEVER, any decent repair depot these days should have an SMT rework station (heck, you can even buy one on Amazon starting around $60 bucks!), and should be able to swap out a defective RAM chip or SSD module in about 5 minutes.Buy ANY piece of electronic gear made in the past TWENTY years, and more than likely, all or some of the components will be soldered-in SMT versions. Especially as the complexity of the component goes up.
Apple doesn't have any idea what "Pro" means? That's about a damned laugh, and your OPINION, besides! For example: Name another laptop with more I/O expandability than the MacBook Pro. I'll wait. It's not all about the beige tower computers of 1990, ya know.
Again, we seem to have diverging ideas what 'innovate' is supposed to mean.
They will continue to produce new gimmicky toys if Cook stays true to his line so far. Whether they will sell them depends on whether this is actually what Apple users really want. I know I wanted an iPhone back when the first came out. I also know I don't want an iPhone X.
But over a BILLION others, do.
Now what?
Sorry, English is only my third language. Peut-être nous pouvons continuer en Francais? Oder wäre Dir Deutsch lieber?
So I used a word wrong. Could we get back to the discussion?
Ok, consider me duly chastised and embarrassed! I REALLY am sorry I was "mean" about your word-usage!
And yes, your English is a LOT better than my French and German!!! (Of which I know essentially zero...) ;-)
So, no, I would not like to continue in French nor German (but I didn't have to go to Google translate to figure those out at least!)
Now where were we?
So, I am not sure why you think that later-generation iPhones ("Cook Phones", if you will), fail in the "Functionality" department. If you are referring to the removal of the headphone jack, there are pluses and minuses to that; but in their defense, Apple DID provide TWO in-the-box solutions for everything but the (really rare and overblown) "need" to be able to charge through the Lightning jack while simultaneously listening to music (because, Goddess forbid, you take a half-hour break from your music to charge your phone up 50%!).
And if you are talking about software "toys" like Animojis or Memojies, that probably just started off in the Lab as a cute internal test of the Face-Tracking capabilities of FaceID, and someone saw it and said "Yeah, keep it in!" I seriously don't think it is anything more considered than that. Craig Federighi's attitude during the demo of the original Animoji demo and the recent Memoji demo shows that Apple doesn't really take the "feature" seriously, either...
Other than that, the iPhone and iPad (and Macs), and their respective OSes, just keep getting faster and more feature-filled. And that's EXACTLY what SHOULD be happening.
So, in short: I really don't get what you mean; and it doesn't help that you really didn't cite any concrete examples of your allegations.
I don't know that it actually does carry any significance. The fact that inflation is a pretty steady thing made it an inevitability that someone would cross the mark eventually. If not Apple, then Amazon and Google look to be on track to do so in the near-ish future as well. Plus, technically speaking, Apple is NOT the first to cross that threshold. That honor goes to PetroChina, who crossed the trillion dollar mark way back in 2007, though admittedly only for a day. In terms of inflation-adjusted dollars, Apple would need to gain yet another $145M in market cap before they would break PetroChina's record.
It's a big number, to be sure, but other than the vanity of it, I really don't see a point.
Then why did you feel compelled to read the article and comment on it?
after others figured out the problem first
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Watch Louis
He didn't FIGURE OUT the problem; he just OBSERVED it.
BIG difference.
The anti-Cook faction exists because Tim Cook seems to be in the anti-Macs faction.
Sure.
Exhibit 1: The iMac Pro. Jobs didn't do it. Cook did.
Exhibit 2: 6-Core MacBook Pro with 32 GB of RAM. Again, Cook.
Exhibit 3: Recent Mac TV Ads. Obviously, Tim hates the Mac.
When Tim Cook made that comment a couple of years ago about the iPad Pro replacing the Personal Computer, he didn't clarify. In fact, an iPad Pro (or even a regular iPad) IS currently replacing MILLIONS of Personal Computers for those who just need an email, surfing and FaceBook machine. Particularly (but not exclusively) older, non-techie people; who simply don't NEED a full-blown computer, with all the complexity and trappings of a fully-exposed filesystem, complex Applications, and inconvenience of having to go where the computer is, instead of picking up an iPad, and having it ready-to-go by the time your finger reaches out to the display. And (let's not forget this!) the ability to EASILY move the display closer so that elderly eyes can read it(!!!)
[...] And that's very sad, that such a money-making personal computer happens to be so horrifically crippled and locked in.
Um, HOW is the Mac (you said "personal computer"; so I assume you mean Macs, not iPhones) either "horrifically crippled" or "locked in"?
"Locked in"? To WHAT?!? You can literally legally run more OSes (and even conveniently switch between them using the Mac's built-in Bootloader) on Macs than ANY other computer. You can purchase Applications from anywhere on the planet, and even write your own with Apple's FREE IDE (a Developer License only costs money if you want to submit Apps to the Apple App Store). So, where EXACTLY is the "Lock In"?
"Horrifically Crippled"? Well, since you didn't mention any specific models, it is impossible to know what was in that little pea-brain of yours when you vomited out that Apple-Hating bile; but here's some examples:
1. iMac Pro: Released in December, 2017. Pretty damn nice specs, if a bit pricey (but price != "crippling"). Up to 18 core Xeon CPU (that wasn't even really released when they started taking orders for the iMac Pro; so it doesn't get any "fresher" than that!), with a AMD Vega 56 or 64 GPU that was released about a month before the iMac Pro was released. Up to 128 GB of ECC RAM And with a built-in 5k display, with USB-C/TB3, USB-A and 10GigE ports, plus analog audio.
2. MacBook Pro: Last updated about 3 weeks ago. Up to a 6-core i9 CPU. Up to 4 TB of SSD (the fastest in any laptop!) and 32 GB of RAM. AMD Radeon GPUs that can drive up to TWO 5K external displays, PLUS the internal display. And don't forget the whopping 80 Gb/sec I/O Bandwidth, which can be easily and inexpensively (and non-Apple-specifically!) broken-out into up to FIFTY TWO Simultaneous Ports(!!!), in any one of a myriad of combinations (according to the USER's needs; not Apple's whims), and which can even be changed as the User's needs change. This is REALLY unique. Yes, other laptops have USB-C (and some even TB3); but NONE have Apple's FOUR full-speed USB-C/TB3 Ports. Oh, and don't forget, with the recent Refresh, Apple even doubled the number of cores AND the number of full-speed USB-C/TB3 Ports on the 13 inch MacBook Pro; further "UN-crippling" it... Oh, and I almost forgot: The TouchBar and TouchID (an Application-Configurable, unique touch input/display device, which provides a modicum of Touch control without stealing Screen real-estate) and the convenience and security of Apple's excellent Fingerprint sensor. How is ANY of that "Horrifically Crippled"?
Please explain rationally. I'll wait...
From the MacRumors article (emphasis mine):
Apple has officially become the world's only trillion dollar publicly traded company, in terms of market capitalization, which is simply the company's number of outstanding shares multiplied by its stock price. [...] As with most milestones of this nature, however, Apple reaching exactly a trillion dollar market cap doesn't have too much significance, beyond the vanity of it.
Pretty much sums it up.
It certainly has a relative significance in the stock market; considering they are the first company of ANY kind in HISTORY to achieve that milestone.
That predominantly services the upper class is the most valuable company in history. There's something not right there. It's just not sustainable...
Perhaps what it "not right" is your initial premise.