The blank root password attack is only a local privesc in the default config too... It works over screen sharing, but that's not enabled by default. It doesn't seem to work on the local login screen, at least on the machine i've tried (plus by default the local login screen shows you a list of users and doesn't let you type a username). To exploit on a default system you need to have local access to an unprivileged user account, and from there you can get root.
I translated it as this was a known issue to the underlings, however it never was allowed to be addressed by the middle managers or this problem was a very to spot problem (probably some debug code that didn't get removed) that was allowed to get released.
However compared to other companies, at least Apple is publicly admitting the problem. While some companies may patch the problem, but not state any details about it.
Although your message is sadly dated, there's already an OSX patch out.
Not to mention that Apple published a Knowledgebase Article pretty much instantly, telling Users how to stop the login vulnerability by assigning a password to root.
Nope we had a fancy "Infra-Red" remote control unit. Here's a website dedicated to it, because of course there is one on the internet: http://vintageelectronics.beta...
Interesting. A friend at the time had an identical JVC deck; but it must've been the prior model. It did have a tethered remote.
We got our first TV in 1958 at a time when new stations were coming online pretty regularly. When ever there was a new one we had to get the man to come out and install a new "biscuit" for the new station. They must have been expensive for there not to be a full set to begin with.
What was the "biscuit"? A pre-set Tuner section? A Pre-Aimed Antenna?
Most new TV for the Past 20 years or so, don't show static. They just give you the blue screen. Back in the old days if the channel wasn't available you get static visually and audio. Often very jarring noise as there isn't anything limiting the volume.
Which is a shame; because those TVs also doubled as Tornado Detectors!
Seriously! You can actually see that occurring (well, simulated, I assume) in the movie "Twister", right before the old storm-chaser's matriarch gets her house trashed...
Not just that TV had antennas but when you changed the TV channel, you had to adjust the antenna to get the picture to come in.
No, we were cool. We had a (Jerrold?) Antenna Rotator on the roof, with a big, dark-brown bakelite set-top box that had a beige bakelite knob that you turned for what direction you wanted the antenna to point. Then, the dial-below-the-dial would light-up, and STEP around (making a "Gzit!-Gzit!-Gzit!" sound) until the it matched the dial-you-turned.
Our first VCR (a JVC) had a hatch on the top near the front. Underneath was an array of ten knobs and dials to set which channels it could receive. That is, you couldn't just pick any channel you wanted, you had to manually tune each channel by setting it's band and fine-tuning it with a small knob. You could set up ten. In front was a removable plastic strip with punch-out numbers where you would fill in the channels you programmed in. When you set it up and put the strip back in, a light would come on behind each number so you could see what channel it was set to. The only display was the vacuum-florescent time display which, I'm pretty sure, was surplus from a digital clock.
Also fun - the control panel with the transport controls would pop off and become the remote control. If you loose the remote, you're SOL if you want to control the thing. Also, the indicator that a tape was inside was mechanical - if a tape was in the transport the dust flaps would close differently and a red tape would appear between them.
It's somewhat amazing the thing worked at all. I don't think it had any sort of microcontroller or anything - pretty sure it was all logic gates and a few timer chips.
I remember those VARACTOR tuners.
And how could you lose that Remote? IIRC, it was tethered to the main-unit by its signal-WIRE.
At one point it went into the 80s. Later on the high channels got reassigned to 60 (In Toronto, CITY-TV started out as 79 and was later moved to 57). I'm not sure if that was due to problems with interference or simply a re-purposing of the frequency range.
I told my roommate's teenage daughters that you used to be able to buy a videotape and put it in the VCR, and the movie would start playing immediately. They thought that was great.
Remember when you could click the channel up or down button on the remote, and the channel would change INSTANTLY?
You could turn on the TV and it would start showing a picture and playing sound INSTANTLY?
You could change incoming video sources INSTANTLY?
It seems all this new-fangled digital crap makes me wait wait wait all the time...
Remember when a fast-moving scene, a pan, or an explosion on TV didn't momentarily devolve into pixellated crap?
Supposedly, my goofy uncle used to bother his brothers and sisters by banging on some exposed pipes while they were watching TV; the noise caused the TV to change the channel.
That was because they had a remote control that used "tuning forks" (tuned metal bars), that emitted ultrasonic sounds the TV was designed to "hear".
We had an old Zenith TV that had a three-command Ultrasonic Remote: Cycle through 3 levels of Volume, Up Channel, Down Channel. I accidently found a metal bar that mimicked the Channel Up function, much like those pipes.
The deluxe TV sets the 60s-70s kept a small bit of electricity going to the TV tube. That way, they were instant-on. Plus, they had a lot of manual adjustements (vertical hold, etc.)
Until a few years ago, my parents were still using a 16" CRT TV with a built in VCR player. Really looked quite Space 1999'ish with the square 4:3 aspect ratio. Still have a memory of seeing those monochrome globe TV sets along with a sphere chair and thinking that would be so cool for my room. (Apparently, the fibreglass chipped really easily so they broke quickly)
Yeah, I was REALLY impressed that they somehow scared-up about 6 of those for the first Men In Black movie, in the "Interview" scene. It was hilarious to see those guys trying to figure out how to fill-out their questionnaires up against the sides of those egg-chairs.
Maybe that reason is more careful app review, or the fact that it's not nearly so easy to collect interesting data from an iOS app because the user has to agree to access and the app has to declare its intent to access (which is also part of the review), nor or iOS apps as freely able to run all the time.
I've no doubt there are some trackers embedded in iOS apps, but I would think it would be a lot more limited scene because few apps would garner much use or ability to mine data.
I think you are absolutely right.
Between the App Review, Sandboxing, and iOS' OS-level "User Account Control"-like system of asking for User-permission to access data outside of an App, it just doesn't seem too likely that iOS would be affected to any great extent, if at all...
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Not a Mac fan, but this is the most honest, respectable response to a mistake I've seen from a corporation in a long time.
Props, Apple.
I agree.
The blank root password attack is only a local privesc in the default config too...
It works over screen sharing, but that's not enabled by default.
It doesn't seem to work on the local login screen, at least on the machine i've tried (plus by default the local login screen shows you a list of users and doesn't let you type a username).
To exploit on a default system you need to have local access to an unprivileged user account, and from there you can get root.
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I translated it as this was a known issue to the underlings, however it never was allowed to be addressed by the middle managers or this problem was a very to spot problem (probably some debug code that didn't get removed) that was allowed to get released.
However compared to other companies, at least Apple is publicly admitting the problem. While some companies may patch the problem, but not state any details about it.
Exactly!
Apple is once again a leader in usability!
Although your message is sadly dated, there's already an OSX patch out.
Not to mention that Apple published a Knowledgebase Article pretty much instantly, telling Users how to stop the login vulnerability by assigning a password to root.
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Nope we had a fancy "Infra-Red" remote control unit. Here's a website dedicated to it, because of course there is one on the internet:
http://vintageelectronics.beta...
Interesting. A friend at the time had an identical JVC deck; but it must've been the prior model. It did have a tethered remote.
Interesting.
Neither is your Apple-Hating screed.
Apple-hating? No, I have many Apple products. I am just pointing out the level of your naivety.
No naivety here.
Simply a considered opinion, just like yours.
UHF was from 14 to 83
ever tried tuning to 2-way radios from 14 to 20? or cellphones in 71 and up?
Can't say as I have...
Put your Citations where your foot/mouth is.
You first. "it just doesn't seem ..." isn't a citation, or a fact, or otherwise useful data.
Neither is your Apple-Hating screed.
Stalemate.
We got our first TV in 1958 at a time when new stations were coming online pretty regularly. When ever there was a new one we had to get the man to come out and install a new "biscuit" for the new station. They must have been expensive for there not to be a full set to begin with.
What was the "biscuit"? A pre-set Tuner section? A Pre-Aimed Antenna?
Or what? I can't find any reference on Google...
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Most new TV for the Past 20 years or so, don't show static. They just give you the blue screen. Back in the old days if the channel wasn't available you get static visually and audio. Often very jarring noise as there isn't anything limiting the volume.
Which is a shame; because those TVs also doubled as Tornado Detectors!
Seriously! You can actually see that occurring (well, simulated, I assume) in the movie "Twister", right before the old storm-chaser's matriarch gets her house trashed...
Not just that TV had antennas but when you changed the TV channel, you had to adjust the antenna to get the picture to come in.
No, we were cool. We had a (Jerrold?) Antenna Rotator on the roof, with a big, dark-brown bakelite set-top box that had a beige bakelite knob that you turned for what direction you wanted the antenna to point. Then, the dial-below-the-dial would light-up, and STEP around (making a "Gzit!-Gzit!-Gzit!" sound) until the it matched the dial-you-turned.
HOW space-age!
wow are those apostrophe and quote marks fucked up for everyone or is ios 11 getting EVEN WORSE at text? first it was the letter i glitch...
No, Slashdot still refuses to believe it isn't 1999. Speaking of Retro...
Our first VCR (a JVC) had a hatch on the top near the front. Underneath was an array of ten knobs and dials to set which channels it could receive. That is, you couldn't just pick any channel you wanted, you had to manually tune each channel by setting it's band and fine-tuning it with a small knob. You could set up ten. In front was a removable plastic strip with punch-out numbers where you would fill in the channels you programmed in. When you set it up and put the strip back in, a light would come on behind each number so you could see what channel it was set to. The only display was the vacuum-florescent time display which, I'm pretty sure, was surplus from a digital clock.
Also fun - the control panel with the transport controls would pop off and become the remote control. If you loose the remote, you're SOL if you want to control the thing. Also, the indicator that a tape was inside was mechanical - if a tape was in the transport the dust flaps would close differently and a red tape would appear between them.
It's somewhat amazing the thing worked at all. I don't think it had any sort of microcontroller or anything - pretty sure it was all logic gates and a few timer chips.
I remember those VARACTOR tuners.
And how could you lose that Remote? IIRC, it was tethered to the main-unit by its signal-WIRE.
>VHS (14-72?)
At one point it went into the 80s. Later on the high channels got reassigned to 60 (In Toronto, CITY-TV started out as 79 and was later moved to 57). I'm not sure if that was due to problems with interference or simply a re-purposing of the frequency range.
UHF was from 14 to 83
I told my roommate's teenage daughters that you used to be able to buy a videotape and put it in the VCR, and the movie would start playing immediately. They thought that was great.
Remember when you could click the channel up or down button on the remote, and the channel would change INSTANTLY?
You could turn on the TV and it would start showing a picture and playing sound INSTANTLY?
You could change incoming video sources INSTANTLY?
It seems all this new-fangled digital crap makes me wait wait wait all the time...
Remember when a fast-moving scene, a pan, or an explosion on TV didn't momentarily devolve into pixellated crap?
Remember when the word "Pixellated" didn't exist?
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There was a time when a President of the USA accepting money from foreign governments was serious enough that he'd at least try to hide it.
So do you have evidence of a US President accepting money from a foreign government?
No; but only because he won't divulge his Tax Returns...
There was a time when a President of the USA accepting money from foreign governments was serious enough that he'd at least try to hide it.
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Supposedly, my goofy uncle used to bother his brothers and sisters by banging on some exposed pipes while they were watching TV; the noise caused the TV to change the channel.
That was because they had a remote control that used "tuning forks" (tuned metal bars), that emitted ultrasonic sounds the TV was designed to "hear".
We had an old Zenith TV that had a three-command Ultrasonic Remote: Cycle through 3 levels of Volume, Up Channel, Down Channel. I accidently found a metal bar that mimicked the Channel Up function, much like those pipes.
The deluxe TV sets the 60s-70s kept a small bit of electricity going to the TV tube. That way, they were instant-on. Plus, they had a lot of manual adjustements (vertical hold, etc.)
Some did; until they started starting fires...
Until a few years ago, my parents were still using a 16" CRT TV with a built in VCR player. Really looked quite Space 1999'ish with the square 4:3 aspect ratio. Still have a memory of seeing those monochrome globe TV sets along with a sphere chair and thinking that would be so cool for my room.
(Apparently, the fibreglass chipped really easily so they broke quickly)
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Yeah, I was REALLY impressed that they somehow scared-up about 6 of those for the first Men In Black movie, in the "Interview" scene. It was hilarious to see those guys trying to figure out how to fill-out their questionnaires up against the sides of those egg-chairs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
I would really like to have one, and put some nice surface-mount car speakers in it. How retro would that be?!?
it just doesn't seem too likely that iOS would be affected to any great extent, if at all...
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Put your Citations where your foot/mouth is.
Maybe that reason is more careful app review, or the fact that it's not nearly so easy to collect interesting data from an iOS app because the user has to agree to access and the app has to declare its intent to access (which is also part of the review), nor or iOS apps as freely able to run all the time.
I've no doubt there are some trackers embedded in iOS apps, but I would think it would be a lot more limited scene because few apps would garner much use or ability to mine data.
I think you are absolutely right.
Between the App Review, Sandboxing, and iOS' OS-level "User Account Control"-like system of asking for User-permission to access data outside of an App, it just doesn't seem too likely that iOS would be affected to any great extent, if at all...