Between this, the debacle of iOS 11 and the fact that the Mac lines have been languishing under him, it's clear they need to get rid of him.
WHAT "Debacle" of iOS 11? You mean the one where you have to close and reopen Messages to see the last Text? Yeah, that's some Debacle, all right... NOT!
If you want to see a Debacle, you need look no farther than the Android Bug that puts your phone into an infinite-reboot loop, the ONLY way to recover from said loop is to Factory-Reset your phone, LOSING all your Personal Data, Photos, etc.
And if you think that the Mac lines are "languishing", then please explain why the MacBook Pro sales are the highest EVER.
iPhones are internally very secure--it's pretty much impossible to crack a locked iPhone with a proper passcode, unless you introduce one of these easy defeat mechanisms into the mix. A gift to the government, perhaps?
No, it's called "We HAVE to get this thing OUT THE DOOR... NOW!"
Not an excuse; but a much more realistic reason that some sort of collusion with the gummint.
The "learning" aspect of FaceID is its primary weakness. There are solutions, of course, and a proper implementation would apply them.
I think you might be right about the "learning" aspect being an unexpected weak point of FaceID.
I also like your idea of the "Guest Passcode", that wouldn't trigger the "Relearn", but that would let the Guest have limited access to run Safari and Maps, and whatever else the owner wishes to grant access to in Settings.
Fortunately, that is something that is relatively easy to fix in software... Hopefully!
Low sales should be acceptable for a niche device with a high markup, though. If anything, as long as they weren't taking a loss on those lines (and I can almost assure you they were not) they serve as marketing by attracting the kind of people who will ultimately make company-wide purchasing decisions for fortune 500 companies. It never hurts for your company's name to be the answer to the question "Which one vendor can sell us our low- and high-end desktops and workstations, our general use laptops and ultraportables, our mobile workstations, our servers, and our backup and device management solutions, all in one stop?" Bonus points if the answer to "Oh, and can they sell us phones and tablets, too?" is "Yes." But, the bonus round only matters if you get there...
Honestly, I think they got the supplier quotes back for the "Retina" 17" panels and had a collective sphincter-pucker, LOL! Because, if you think about their development cycles, they were probably well-into the "Retina" changeover when the decision to drop the 17" was made.
Obviously, I'm just guessing; and I personally do wish they had continued with BOTH the XServes AND the MBP 17, partly for the reasons you mentioned above; but who really knows what goes on in these boardrooms?
I do not, however, believe that it is indicative of anything other than engineering ROI calculations.
So, an inferior version? Just confirms what I said.
WTF are you saying?
Leopard was the "cat name" for OS X 10.5 (I misremembered at first), and Snow Leopard was the "cat name" for OS X 10.6.
Apple deliberately chose a variant of the prior cat-name to point out the fact that Snow Leopard wasn't introducing any significant new features, but was rather mostly a "stability" release, and most importantly, was the first Major OSX release to be Intel-Only.
Unfair comparison. We've been used to a way better service with Apple, and we see that wonder fading away.
Not at all unfair, and you REALLY aren't going to "out-experience" me when it comes to Apple. So don't even try.
Bugs exist in every OS, and are always worse in early releases. I have been using Apple products since the Apple 1, and I have ALWAYS counseled others (and myself) to NEVER install a '.0' version of an OS, whether MacOS or iOS. You just. don't.
In fact, it has actually gotten BETTER over the years. I used to tell people to wait until about the '.4' relase before even considering Upgrading. Now it's usually pretty stable by the '.2' rev.
But I still NEVER put a brand new major-OS rev. on my Apple gear. Public Betas are making things better; but there's still no reason to take that much of a risk.
On the Windows Server side of the house, the pace is a little slower and it shows...server operating systems need to be more stable and not have surprising feature changes.
And yet they abruptly slapped a touchscreen interface onto the server OS.
stoopid,, they are NOT THE SAME.. Linux people are people whom make great products for the purpose they are designed for, yes they have their ups and downs in the industry. But have you ever heard of a story where a piece of the internet infrastructure was broken that was run by a piece of apple software? NO. apple products are leaches, they actually provide nothing to the ecosystem but, waste, trash, and billions of Ipods that litter land fills daily..
Apple people are mostly unqualified, bias, immature, bright (like an appliance light bulb), and tainted by the "taste" How can you compare the two, I mean look at the final products produced, and make an informed comment. Apple encourages an elite-est attitude, and it shows once again referring to the product.. Although I will agree Microsoft has gone overboard wit their shit regarding WinBlows 10, but It works.. Once again referring to the final release product..
What's funny is that you probably don't even realize just how ignorant you sound.
The latter puts a focus on getting out a certain amount of new and shiny, which can result in lower quality releases.
Well I think this ties into another relevant criticism: There's no reason that an OS needs a lot of these "features".
Is the OS stable? Is the filesystem good? Does the UI allow you to open applications? Yes? Ok, cool, then you're done. Pretty much everything else should be done on the application level, not by the OS.
I know that sounds like crazy talk, but I just don't think things like web browsers, Dropbox competitors, Music stores, and AI assistants needs to be integrated into the OS. Tying these items to OS upgrades means that they have to push out a whole new OS upgrade when they want to release features. Kernel-level changes shouldn't get scheduled based on when they want to release new ad-blocking in the browser.
So, in a practical sense, how do you make features like, to name a few, "Coherence", "Dictation" and "AirPlay" available without OS-level support? And the question becomes even more important in a heavily-sandboxed environment such as iOS.
Apple has never integrated their web browser, their mail application, Messaging Application or any of that heavy-handed stuff like MS did in the mid 1990s (and continues to this day in various and sundry ways). Heck, even Finder is a standalone Application (just like Windows Explorer).
And in no way does Apple, or even MS, have to upgrade their entire OS, as you suggest, JUST to fix or update a feature. Apple (and MS) have update mechanisms that can do lightweight updates to handle such things in a timely manner.
So, I think Apple, for the most part, gets the "part of the OS, or separate application?" question right a majority of the time. But I don't think any "modern" OS is as simple as the boundaries you propose.
They hadn't gotten really bad yet in 2010. There are a large number of us who believe they peaked in 2011, for example. Snow Leopard is still, IMHO, the best release of OS X as far as features and stability are concerned, the last release where everything truly "just worked". It was mid 2011 when Lion came out that they really started to slide. Dropping 17" MBPs wasn't a good sign, either.
Lion was a dud-release, to be sure. But I am hoping they are trying to (finally) clean things up with High Sierra.
And remember, Jobs dropped the 17" MBP. But I am pretty sure that was just a matter of (for Apple) "low" sales, like with the XServes.
There's no way to be certain but if there were, I'd wager everything I could that almost all the "claimed OCD iOS users" are instead apple haters flocking to another molehill in attempts to build another fake mountain.
And then they come to/. And further amplify their Hate by "pointing out" those same posts, as ACs.
It goes back way longer than a couple of years. Remember the Daylight Saving Time fiasco? The "holding it wrong" stuff? The comical Apple Maps bugs? Just do a google search on any "iOS x bugs" and you'll see a whole litany of stuff.
Sure. As long as you'll agree to an equal analysis of Android's bugs...
I mean Snow Leopard? Couldn't be an ordinary leopard, could it? With its yellow and black pigmentation that would be tantamount to admitting the actual true scientifically proven historical FACT that the Chinese and Africans invented computing as we know it and Babbage, Dickens and Mozart stole it literally at gunpoint.
According to TFA, iOS 11's most serious bug makes you have to re-launch the Messages App to see your most recent message.
In stark contrast, Android's most serious bug puts your device into an infinite boot loop, where your only choice is to factory reset your phone, losing all your personal data, photos, etc.
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A missed opportunity, IMO, but I'm fairly sure I'm preaching to the choir.
Yup. I think St. Steve messed-up those two decisions.
Between this, the debacle of iOS 11 and the fact that the Mac lines have been languishing under him, it's clear they need to get rid of him.
WHAT "Debacle" of iOS 11? You mean the one where you have to close and reopen Messages to see the last Text? Yeah, that's some Debacle, all right... NOT!
If you want to see a Debacle, you need look no farther than the Android Bug that puts your phone into an infinite-reboot loop, the ONLY way to recover from said loop is to Factory-Reset your phone, LOSING all your Personal Data, Photos, etc.
And if you think that the Mac lines are "languishing", then please explain why the MacBook Pro sales are the highest EVER.
http://www.zdnet.com/article/a...
Or Amish. Pretty small gene pool there.
And yet, they ended-up with the long-life gene.
How does THAT work?!?
I would love to see how FaceId works for people who wear damn near theater makeup every day.
Quite well; since it doesn't use color as part of the identification.
Why would we care?
I don't know; but you so OBVIOUSLY, er, DO.
Jealousy, perhaps? That is the only rational explanation.
Fuck you. It isn't an either/or. You don't need to 'love' your Android phone to despise Apple and their army of little zealots.
You should talk, member of the Army of ANONYMOUS COWARD Apple Haters.
iPhones are internally very secure--it's pretty much impossible to crack a locked iPhone with a proper passcode, unless you introduce one of these easy defeat mechanisms into the mix. A gift to the government, perhaps?
No, it's called "We HAVE to get this thing OUT THE DOOR... NOW!"
Not an excuse; but a much more realistic reason that some sort of collusion with the gummint.
The "learning" aspect of FaceID is its primary weakness. There are solutions, of course, and a proper implementation would apply them.
I think you might be right about the "learning" aspect being an unexpected weak point of FaceID.
I also like your idea of the "Guest Passcode", that wouldn't trigger the "Relearn", but that would let the Guest have limited access to run Safari and Maps, and whatever else the owner wishes to grant access to in Settings.
Fortunately, that is something that is relatively easy to fix in software... Hopefully!
That's because you were annoying the shit out of everyone around when you typed ;)
Around him, hell! He was annoying the shit out of everyone in the next COUNTY with that thing!
Low sales should be acceptable for a niche device with a high markup, though. If anything, as long as they weren't taking a loss on those lines (and I can almost assure you they were not) they serve as marketing by attracting the kind of people who will ultimately make company-wide purchasing decisions for fortune 500 companies. It never hurts for your company's name to be the answer to the question "Which one vendor can sell us our low- and high-end desktops and workstations, our general use laptops and ultraportables, our mobile workstations, our servers, and our backup and device management solutions, all in one stop?" Bonus points if the answer to "Oh, and can they sell us phones and tablets, too?" is "Yes." But, the bonus round only matters if you get there...
Honestly, I think they got the supplier quotes back for the "Retina" 17" panels and had a collective sphincter-pucker, LOL! Because, if you think about their development cycles, they were probably well-into the "Retina" changeover when the decision to drop the 17" was made.
Obviously, I'm just guessing; and I personally do wish they had continued with BOTH the XServes AND the MBP 17, partly for the reasons you mentioned above; but who really knows what goes on in these boardrooms?
I do not, however, believe that it is indicative of anything other than engineering ROI calculations.
Organizations too. :P
Exactly.
So, an inferior version? Just confirms what I said.
WTF are you saying?
Leopard was the "cat name" for OS X 10.5 (I misremembered at first), and Snow Leopard was the "cat name" for OS X 10.6.
Apple deliberately chose a variant of the prior cat-name to point out the fact that Snow Leopard wasn't introducing any significant new features, but was rather mostly a "stability" release, and most importantly, was the first Major OSX release to be Intel-Only.
Unfair comparison. We've been used to a way better service with Apple, and we see that wonder fading away.
Not at all unfair, and you REALLY aren't going to "out-experience" me when it comes to Apple. So don't even try.
Bugs exist in every OS, and are always worse in early releases. I have been using Apple products since the Apple 1, and I have ALWAYS counseled others (and myself) to NEVER install a '.0' version of an OS, whether MacOS or iOS. You just. don't.
In fact, it has actually gotten BETTER over the years. I used to tell people to wait until about the '.4' relase before even considering Upgrading. Now it's usually pretty stable by the '.2' rev.
But I still NEVER put a brand new major-OS rev. on my Apple gear. Public Betas are making things better; but there's still no reason to take that much of a risk.
On the Windows Server side of the house, the pace is a little slower and it shows...server operating systems need to be more stable and not have surprising feature changes.
And yet they abruptly slapped a touchscreen interface onto the server OS.
This, this, a thousand times THIS!
Also, companies don't see QA as important these days. :(
Where is Linux's QA department?
And if you say "everyone", isn't that EXACTLY what you are accusing the other Platforms of, too?
They fix bugs and add new features. They have LTE versions if all you want is stability.
So, just like every other platform.
stoopid,,
they are NOT THE SAME..
Linux people are people whom make great products for the purpose they are designed for, yes they have their ups and downs in the industry. But have you ever heard of a story where a piece of the internet infrastructure was broken that was run by a piece of apple software? NO. apple products are leaches, they actually provide nothing to the ecosystem but, waste, trash, and billions of Ipods that litter land fills daily..
Apple people are mostly unqualified, bias, immature, bright (like an appliance light bulb), and tainted by the "taste"
How can you compare the two, I mean look at the final products produced, and make an informed comment.
Apple encourages an elite-est attitude, and it shows once again referring to the product..
Although I will agree Microsoft has gone overboard wit their shit regarding WinBlows 10, but It works.. Once again referring to the final release product..
What's funny is that you probably don't even realize just how ignorant you sound.
The latter puts a focus on getting out a certain amount of new and shiny, which can result in lower quality releases.
Well I think this ties into another relevant criticism: There's no reason that an OS needs a lot of these "features".
Is the OS stable? Is the filesystem good? Does the UI allow you to open applications? Yes? Ok, cool, then you're done. Pretty much everything else should be done on the application level, not by the OS.
I know that sounds like crazy talk, but I just don't think things like web browsers, Dropbox competitors, Music stores, and AI assistants needs to be integrated into the OS. Tying these items to OS upgrades means that they have to push out a whole new OS upgrade when they want to release features. Kernel-level changes shouldn't get scheduled based on when they want to release new ad-blocking in the browser.
So, in a practical sense, how do you make features like, to name a few, "Coherence", "Dictation" and "AirPlay" available without OS-level support? And the question becomes even more important in a heavily-sandboxed environment such as iOS.
Apple has never integrated their web browser, their mail application, Messaging Application or any of that heavy-handed stuff like MS did in the mid 1990s (and continues to this day in various and sundry ways). Heck, even Finder is a standalone Application (just like Windows Explorer).
And in no way does Apple, or even MS, have to upgrade their entire OS, as you suggest, JUST to fix or update a feature. Apple (and MS) have update mechanisms that can do lightweight updates to handle such things in a timely manner.
So, I think Apple, for the most part, gets the "part of the OS, or separate application?" question right a majority of the time. But I don't think any "modern" OS is as simple as the boundaries you propose.
They hadn't gotten really bad yet in 2010. There are a large number of us who believe they peaked in 2011, for example. Snow Leopard is still, IMHO, the best release of OS X as far as features and stability are concerned, the last release where everything truly "just worked". It was mid 2011 when Lion came out that they really started to slide. Dropping 17" MBPs wasn't a good sign, either.
Lion was a dud-release, to be sure. But I am hoping they are trying to (finally) clean things up with High Sierra.
And remember, Jobs dropped the 17" MBP. But I am pretty sure that was just a matter of (for Apple) "low" sales, like with the XServes.
Ah yes, the much discussed apple persecution complex. Get help; its probably not too late.
As countered by the much experienced AC anti-Apple posts...
There's no way to be certain but if there were, I'd wager everything I could that almost all the "claimed OCD iOS users" are instead apple haters flocking to another molehill in attempts to build another fake mountain.
And then they come to /. And further amplify their Hate by "pointing out" those same posts, as ACs.
It goes back way longer than a couple of years. Remember the Daylight Saving Time fiasco? The "holding it wrong" stuff? The comical Apple Maps bugs? Just do a google search on any "iOS x bugs" and you'll see a whole litany of stuff.
Sure. As long as you'll agree to an equal analysis of Android's bugs...
I mean Snow Leopard? Couldn't be an ordinary leopard, could it? With its yellow and black pigmentation that would be tantamount to admitting the actual true scientifically proven historical FACT that the Chinese and Africans invented computing as we know it and Babbage, Dickens and Mozart stole it literally at gunpoint.
They had already used that Cat 4 versions prior.
My point exactly, I'm wondering why Apple thought they needed to improve double-quotes.
I'm wondering why Slashdot's comment system still thinks it's 1999.
Let's put all this in perspective, shall we?
According to TFA, iOS 11's most serious bug makes you have to re-launch the Messages App to see your most recent message.
In stark contrast, Android's most serious bug puts your device into an infinite boot loop, where your only choice is to factory reset your phone, losing all your personal data, photos, etc.
https://tech.slashdot.org/stor...
Now, which bug would YOU rather experience?