No that only works on morons. Granted there are a lot of morons in the world, and each one of their votes has the same weight as yours or mine, but propaganda will never work against intelligent people. If we are to talk of propaganda I may as well invoke Godwin and cite the experts: even Herr Hitler knew this and wrote about it in his book. He also said that intelligent people were too few and too removed from politics to be of any significance, they were too busy in their ivory towers.
It's only a "walled garden" if you keep the undesirables out. With Microsoft's market share, everyone will be in the garden along with you. Wonderful, it's no longer a garden but more a federal prison. Welcome to the ocean of piss.
You have an educated populace that can read; you have basic public health and transportation infrastructure; you have an economic system that produces money, protects investments, and so on.
Wait for a moment I thought we were talking about the US but clearly I am in the wrong thread.
Perhaps Intel should start to worry about the lower end of the processor world.
This has always belonged to the likes of Motorola and others. Comparing ARM to x86 is like comparing apples and oranges. At one point people will wake up and realize that after reading a book and playing Angry Birds, tablets are rather limited. I know a lot of people suffering from buyer's remorse after buying tablets. They have their uses, they have their niche market, but at one point when you make a tablet do everything a laptop or desktop does, you end up with a (bad) laptop or a desktop.
And what is the benefit to the economy of Joe and his wife going to the lake for the weekend, versus 40 tons of dishwashers being shipped from the factory to the retail store?
Do I get to subtract the cost of fuel off my income?
Sure you do. You get your income. You pay your expenses (including all taxes). What's left in your bank account is your income, less the costs of your fuel, etc. Why do you think it's any different for a rich person? His gross income is bigger than yours. His expenses would make you cry. His net is probably not much more than yours in percentage points. Yeah, there's more zeros. How about you come up with the capital and the balls to risk it, instead of complaining about those who do?
You pay those taxes for the privilege of being an American citizen and having to tell everyone you meet overseas that you are Canadian so that they don't hate you.
Mr. Millionaire has a fleet of 1000 semi trucks to deliver his product, but he doesn't have to pay for road upkeep?
Er I am sure that his 1000 semi trucks each pay taxes for road upkeep. In fact I would say he is paying a shitload more tax every day than you are. You should be happy that he lets you use his road.
Not paying tax that you don't have to pay is cheating now? Wow, it's clear which side of the line you stand on. By the way when you say "pay their fair share" what about people being responsible and not demanding more handouts than "their fair share".
I'm not trying to be pedantic but I find that Americans often confuse the two. I remember sitting on a Continental flight somewhere and watching the safety video where the CEO was telling me to enjoy the product. You can quantify a product. A service, however, has very subjective implications. McDonald's produces meals, and a fancy expensive restaurant produces meals, so you could think that they both produce a product: "dinner". However your experience with one or the other will vary greatly. So will the price.
So there is a lot more to it than just looking at the "product". Health care is the same - the end result is highly subjective. I can send patient A to have coronary artery bypass grafts and patient B can get stents and patient C can just continue to take pills without any intervention at all, and there really is no telling who is going to have a better quality of life at the end of it. There are even articles published that say that they are statistically equivalent. However trying to make sure each patient is given the right treatment choice and ensure that everyone is happy, that's a service. Almost impossible to quantify.
Going back to your point - legislators and insurance companies, however, tend to view hospitals as "health factories" and seem to think that medicine is all about empty bed/total bed and bed turnover ratios and patients seen per hour/day/year. Like a product. And this is what screws the whole thing up. I can give you a full hospital with lines outside the door and make sure everyone is absolutely miserable, even if I see more people than any other hospital in the state. Likewise I can give you a relatively empty hospital and make sure you have a healthy, happy population. You can't quantify it the way they want to quantify it. I think I agree with your point, but from a different perspective.
Indicators (infant mortality, maternal mortality, life expectancy) versus cost per capita. It's measurable. Not my area of specialty but I am a physician. I remember discussing it at length both in biostatistics and family medicine courses. Cuba and Canada were always near the top, and the US usually ends up between 7th and 16th place. Of course this varies year by year but the trend is pretty obvious. Look it up! I'm sure the world heath organization must have some searchable tables.
What, and force the telcos to invest in the infrastructure to do more work storing the messages and to take the load from all those incoming requests? NEVAR!
And I am sure it was used in many episodes of General Hospital/All My Children/Insert Alternate Soaps Here many times pre 1980. Hardly an original idea, either. There are many plays hundreds of years old that have surprise children/heirs in their plots.
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No that only works on morons. Granted there are a lot of morons in the world, and each one of their votes has the same weight as yours or mine, but propaganda will never work against intelligent people. If we are to talk of propaganda I may as well invoke Godwin and cite the experts: even Herr Hitler knew this and wrote about it in his book. He also said that intelligent people were too few and too removed from politics to be of any significance, they were too busy in their ivory towers.
It's only a "walled garden" if you keep the undesirables out. With Microsoft's market share, everyone will be in the garden along with you. Wonderful, it's no longer a garden but more a federal prison. Welcome to the ocean of piss.
You have an educated populace that can read; you have basic public health and transportation infrastructure; you have an economic system that produces money, protects investments, and so on.
Wait for a moment I thought we were talking about the US but clearly I am in the wrong thread.
Perhaps Intel should start to worry about the lower end of the processor world.
This has always belonged to the likes of Motorola and others. Comparing ARM to x86 is like comparing apples and oranges. At one point people will wake up and realize that after reading a book and playing Angry Birds, tablets are rather limited. I know a lot of people suffering from buyer's remorse after buying tablets. They have their uses, they have their niche market, but at one point when you make a tablet do everything a laptop or desktop does, you end up with a (bad) laptop or a desktop.
And what is the benefit to the economy of Joe and his wife going to the lake for the weekend, versus 40 tons of dishwashers being shipped from the factory to the retail store?
Do I get to subtract the cost of fuel off my income?
Sure you do. You get your income. You pay your expenses (including all taxes). What's left in your bank account is your income, less the costs of your fuel, etc. Why do you think it's any different for a rich person? His gross income is bigger than yours. His expenses would make you cry. His net is probably not much more than yours in percentage points. Yeah, there's more zeros. How about you come up with the capital and the balls to risk it, instead of complaining about those who do?
And this is relevant to me how? I am not American, and not in the US. I assume that was your target, since you mentioned obesity.
Also, have the superior Japanese learned how to swim yet?
You pay those taxes for the privilege of being an American citizen and having to tell everyone you meet overseas that you are Canadian so that they don't hate you.
Mr. Millionaire has a fleet of 1000 semi trucks to deliver his product, but he doesn't have to pay for road upkeep?
Er I am sure that his 1000 semi trucks each pay taxes for road upkeep. In fact I would say he is paying a shitload more tax every day than you are. You should be happy that he lets you use his road.
It rolls out just as easily. Why don't you take the risk?
Presumably the tax is on income, not capital. Of course there's inheritance tax, that very special form of taxing capital.
Not paying tax that you don't have to pay is cheating now? Wow, it's clear which side of the line you stand on. By the way when you say "pay their fair share" what about people being responsible and not demanding more handouts than "their fair share".
Congratulations you have (re)invented the Honey Pot.
No, but he created Tek War. OK, it sucked, but what have you created?
William Shatner certainly outweighs Harrison Ford. By about 80 lbs, I'd guess.
I'm not trying to be pedantic but I find that Americans often confuse the two. I remember sitting on a Continental flight somewhere and watching the safety video where the CEO was telling me to enjoy the product. You can quantify a product. A service, however, has very subjective implications. McDonald's produces meals, and a fancy expensive restaurant produces meals, so you could think that they both produce a product: "dinner". However your experience with one or the other will vary greatly. So will the price.
So there is a lot more to it than just looking at the "product". Health care is the same - the end result is highly subjective. I can send patient A to have coronary artery bypass grafts and patient B can get stents and patient C can just continue to take pills without any intervention at all, and there really is no telling who is going to have a better quality of life at the end of it. There are even articles published that say that they are statistically equivalent. However trying to make sure each patient is given the right treatment choice and ensure that everyone is happy, that's a service. Almost impossible to quantify.
Going back to your point - legislators and insurance companies, however, tend to view hospitals as "health factories" and seem to think that medicine is all about empty bed/total bed and bed turnover ratios and patients seen per hour/day/year. Like a product. And this is what screws the whole thing up. I can give you a full hospital with lines outside the door and make sure everyone is absolutely miserable, even if I see more people than any other hospital in the state. Likewise I can give you a relatively empty hospital and make sure you have a healthy, happy population. You can't quantify it the way they want to quantify it. I think I agree with your point, but from a different perspective.
Indicators (infant mortality, maternal mortality, life expectancy) versus cost per capita. It's measurable. Not my area of specialty but I am a physician. I remember discussing it at length both in biostatistics and family medicine courses. Cuba and Canada were always near the top, and the US usually ends up between 7th and 16th place. Of course this varies year by year but the trend is pretty obvious. Look it up! I'm sure the world heath organization must have some searchable tables.
No, they are services. You cannot quantify health. In fact you have a hard time even defining health. And no, it's not "the absence of disease".
And you sound like you are talking to yourself.
No you have the most expensive health care system on earth. Per capita, Cuba has the best health care system on earth.
What, and force the telcos to invest in the infrastructure to do more work storing the messages and to take the load from all those incoming requests? NEVAR!
No value != little value. How much do you pay per year for toilet paper?
Well it's easy, the answer is of course Cesiumfrancolithic Myxialobidiumrixydixydoxhidexidroxhide. Pay me.
And I am sure it was used in many episodes of General Hospital/All My Children/Insert Alternate Soaps Here many times pre 1980. Hardly an original idea, either. There are many plays hundreds of years old that have surprise children/heirs in their plots.
Why a director would add such a pointless camera obstruction in post-production I doubt I'll come to negotiate.
Because he can. That is human nature.