if it's clear the people were not sufficiently educated.
Define "sufficiently educated"? Is it "does not agree with my point of view = insufficiently educated"?
If I am a politician with a personal agenda planning to pass something right under the peoples' noses, isn't it in my best intrest to KEEP the people "insufficiently educated"? That way I can't lose. If they vote for my idea, well that's that - I win. If they vote against it, I can claim that they're "insufficiently educated", and do my stuff anyway. It's a win situation for me anyway. Ain't democracy grand?
Oh, and while we're at it, are we so sure that our politicians are "sufficiently educated?"
As for voting people out in the next election there are some problems with that: 1) the dirty deed is already done and 2) sometimes (read - often) the new guy is going to go back on his campaign promises and be just as bad as the old guy.
man, the repetativeness of religion bashing and jokes about chairs and a certain microsoft executive make beavis and butthead look like a thinking mans comedy
To the numbnuts who added "yes" and "no": Fuck off.
No, YOU fuck off!
The "yes" and "no" tags indicate all the story headers that for some reason slashdot editors choose to end in a closed question like: Enough to warrant a $175 card? Yes using rhetorical questions is an accepted manner of getting your point across. However an open question might be even better, like "At $175, what makes this card so special?"
This is far beyond the reach of most editors, however.
I am 27, and I have heard alarming news about the decline in the literacy, attention span, civic mindedness, etc, of America students since I was in elementary school.
Don't worry. That argument is so old it was used in ancient Greece by Socrates, et al. The older generation always thinks that society is slipping into a moral/educational/civic decline. Perhaps it has to do with us old farts just simply not understanding the newer generation:)
Then we might actually want to go to school everyday!
Kids today have it easy. Bring back corporal punishment I say. There's too much damned spoon-feeding nowadays. The odd eraser thrown at a random student was a great way to keep us awake. The smacks on the wrist with a ruler let the lefties know their place in society. And of course you learned a lot more when the material was yelled at you than from a damned video game...
had thought they were dumbing the program down (in the case of choking)so the average person who takes first aid/CPR wouldn't have too many things to remember.
Actually the real reason is that too many patients were surviving their airway obstruction only to die from intraabdominal bleeding due to lacerated livers and spleens. The average joe gets carried away in a panic situation and would put a bit too much energy into those abdominal thrusts. Chest compressions are approximately as effective, and reduce the risk of intraabdominal trauma. Plus as you say, it has the advantage of making this simpler for Joe. Cheers.
Personally, if someone next to me went into cardiac arrest right now, I would do as my training said and do the 15 to 1 ratio. If I could verify that the American Red Cross teaches otherwise in the Adult CPR course, I would follow those new procedures. However, if the adult CPR course said 15 to one and the CPR for the professional rescuer said 30 to one I would do 15 to mone because I never took a CPR for the professional rescuer course.
This is the reason your CPR card has an expiry date. If you don't stay current and perform an inadequate CPR technique, technically you are liable (although it's unlikely you'd be sued). I renewed my ACLS certificate a few months ago and can confirm the new 30:2 ratio is endorsed by the American Heart Association. Other changes were made to airway obstructions, too.
If you want to do CPR I suggest you take a refresher course. Cracking ribs is lots of fun (I've personally reanimated hundreds of people and it's nice when it works), but you have to do it properly if you want to give the patient his best chance at living again.
I take my hat off to anyone who can do effective chest compressions for 10 minutes. If you have the manpower you want to be swapping much sooner than that.
in this case, a combo is the safe approach that covers the most bases.
No - that's the whole point. A "combo" does worse than chest compressions alone because you are a) ventilating a corpse and b) not generating enough circulation. The layman will only do chest compressions if there is no pulse. A and B come first. You can ventilate a pulseless patient all day and I swear you're not going to get him back no matter WHAT the cause. More chest compressions, less ventilation.
March of the Penguins was so damned sexy, I get hot just thinking about it. Can't believe the rating it had. Oh and Emus! Don't get me started on Emus! Oh God! Anyway, at least now we know what the dodos died from...
shoot the bastards in the head
Learn from the Iraqis. IEDs are much more effective, apparently. I'm sure Iran would be willing to provide the explosives for the revolution...!
It's like they all died in vane.
No they haven't all been sucked into jet engines. Uhh, what? vane? OHHHH you mean VAIN... does your late grandpa know how bad your vocabulary is, son?
Smile and nod, folks, we've got ourselves a Rastafarian fundamentalist. This is a new one.
Personally I don't smoke weed, but I'm just going to sit here a while until I get a contact high...
if it's clear the people were not sufficiently educated.
Define "sufficiently educated"? Is it "does not agree with my point of view = insufficiently educated"?
If I am a politician with a personal agenda planning to pass something right under the peoples' noses, isn't it in my best intrest to KEEP the people "insufficiently educated"? That way I can't lose. If they vote for my idea, well that's that - I win. If they vote against it, I can claim that they're "insufficiently educated", and do my stuff anyway. It's a win situation for me anyway. Ain't democracy grand?
Oh, and while we're at it, are we so sure that our politicians are "sufficiently educated?"
As for voting people out in the next election there are some problems with that: 1) the dirty deed is already done and 2) sometimes (read - often) the new guy is going to go back on his campaign promises and be just as bad as the old guy.
man, the repetativeness of religion bashing and jokes about chairs and a certain microsoft executive make beavis and butthead look like a thinking mans comedy
Not to mention the bad spelling and grammar!
These burrowing dinosaurs must be from the species of Skeletal Dinosaurs we've found living underground for millions of years.
Cool! That explains why these fossils skeletal dinosaurs are always found underground!
only those of us sequestered in basements playing WoW and hacking up patches to the Linux kernel will survive the impact.
An alternative path:
Only to die miserably of internet withdrawal in a caffeine-induced continual attempt to reconnect to the servers...
Real gamers build their machines, anyway... this is for gamer "wannabees". They deserve to get ripped off.
To the numbnuts who added "yes" and "no": Fuck off.
No, YOU fuck off!
The "yes" and "no" tags indicate all the story headers that for some reason slashdot editors choose to end in a closed question like: Enough to warrant a $175 card? Yes using rhetorical questions is an accepted manner of getting your point across. However an open question might be even better, like "At $175, what makes this card so special?"
This is far beyond the reach of most editors, however.
traumatize the poor first-graders
A little trauma is a healthy part of any childhood. It's called "growing up".
I am 27, and I have heard alarming news about the decline in the literacy, attention span, civic mindedness, etc, of America students since I was in elementary school.
:)
Don't worry. That argument is so old it was used in ancient Greece by Socrates, et al. The older generation always thinks that society is slipping into a moral/educational/civic decline. Perhaps it has to do with us old farts just simply not understanding the newer generation
Maybe they should try taking the kids to a real lake one day to teach them why the fish are dying
Better yet, drown the buggers in the lake. Oops, sorry I'm the parent of 2 teenagers...
Then we might actually want to go to school everyday!
Kids today have it easy. Bring back corporal punishment I say. There's too much damned spoon-feeding nowadays. The odd eraser thrown at a random student was a great way to keep us awake. The smacks on the wrist with a ruler let the lefties know their place in society. And of course you learned a lot more when the material was yelled at you than from a damned video game...
ship burnt disks rather than making them in the destination country?
:)
not transfer files over the net rather than by airplane?
Because this is a plot by Microsoft to prevent the shipment of Ubuntu discs!
had thought they were dumbing the program down (in the case of choking)so the average person who takes first aid/CPR wouldn't have too many things to remember.
Actually the real reason is that too many patients were surviving their airway obstruction only to die from intraabdominal bleeding due to lacerated livers and spleens. The average joe gets carried away in a panic situation and would put a bit too much energy into those abdominal thrusts. Chest compressions are approximately as effective, and reduce the risk of intraabdominal trauma. Plus as you say, it has the advantage of making this simpler for Joe. Cheers.
Personally, if someone next to me went into cardiac arrest right now, I would do as my training said and do the 15 to 1 ratio. If I could verify that the American Red Cross teaches otherwise in the Adult CPR course, I would follow those new procedures. However, if the adult CPR course said 15 to one and the CPR for the professional rescuer said 30 to one I would do 15 to mone because I never took a CPR for the professional rescuer course.
This is the reason your CPR card has an expiry date. If you don't stay current and perform an inadequate CPR technique, technically you are liable (although it's unlikely you'd be sued). I renewed my ACLS certificate a few months ago and can confirm the new 30:2 ratio is endorsed by the American Heart Association. Other changes were made to airway obstructions, too.
If you want to do CPR I suggest you take a refresher course. Cracking ribs is lots of fun (I've personally reanimated hundreds of people and it's nice when it works), but you have to do it properly if you want to give the patient his best chance at living again.
and change operators after ten minutes or so
I take my hat off to anyone who can do effective chest compressions for 10 minutes. If you have the manpower you want to be swapping much sooner than that.
in this case, a combo is the safe approach that covers the most bases.
No - that's the whole point. A "combo" does worse than chest compressions alone because you are a) ventilating a corpse and b) not generating enough circulation. The layman will only do chest compressions if there is no pulse. A and B come first. You can ventilate a pulseless patient all day and I swear you're not going to get him back no matter WHAT the cause. More chest compressions, less ventilation.
Oh, and Ms. Shell, 1996 called. They want their website design back.
Hey John3? 1999 called and they want their joke back.
a sign saying "Trespassers will be shot" on the INSIDE of your house?
Actually if they broke in, you don't even need the sign in most countries... moral - stay out of people's houses unless invited in.
Is there a Coral cach...uhh nevermind...
Okay, they don't cover attention whoring in the DSM... I had a stalker like that in college.
Paranoia, however, is covered in depth.
flightless bird porn
March of the Penguins was so damned sexy, I get hot just thinking about it. Can't believe the rating it had. Oh and Emus! Don't get me started on Emus! Oh God! Anyway, at least now we know what the dodos died from...
Too funny. Do chickens count?
With all due respect, their business is not evil.
If they're really not evil then where is the harm in obtaining my consent first? Well?
who should I be sending the lawsuit to?
Sue Google for a billion dollars. Everyone else is...