Your mistaken. The release date of the N64 in the US was September 29, 1996. The N64 has had a short life, but I don't think they should delay the Dolphin because of it. Part of the reason they didn't do so well was because it came so late after the PSX. They can't afford to be the last one to a new console again.
I find it funny you mention the PSX is for hard core gamers. I find the N64 more to that tune. PSX had great marketing. They made it seem "cool" to have a Playstation. That's why they are ahead. Of course, Nintendo made the mistake of having mostly games that would be called "kiddie" by the average public. This gave them a bad image and made them seem "uncool", another thing in Sony's favor. Real gamers don't care if a game is kiddie or not. They play a game for what it is. And hardcore gamers do not make up the market. They are a very small percentage. That's why Southpark 64 (which I've heard sucks from just about every website) is selling so well, because the general public thinks: Southpark, it must be good. And they think it's good, because it's Southpark and it's cool.
Also interesting to note that you say gamers want a company interested in games. Is Sony a good game maker? No, Nintendo is one of the best game developers there is. Coupled with Rare, I think you get a great system that is for the games. And I'm sorry if you think gamers don't net access or DVD, because I guess you won't be buying a next-generation system. All of them will have those features, they are coming.
Oh, and one final thought. You state the Dolphin had a poor response. I don't know your definition of poor, but I think it's had a great reception. Everyone seems to love this machine. It has everything the PSX2 has, and more.
There's a flaw in that reasoning though. It wouldn't cost $60 bucks a cart. Probally only $30 or so per cart. The reason it's $60 bucks now is for all the packaging, the product advertising, and the fact your only buying one. That's why FFVII doesn't cost $120. It's only $40. A developer can also put in a bunch of space into one cart, the reason the limit at the moment is at 32 Megs is cost. I'm sure there is a limit somewhere, but it wouldn't take 61 cartridges. So I'm guesstimating about 10. Using the above examples, it would bring a total cost to: $300
What do you mean what platform. The topic says it it self. Nintendo?!?! As for the OS, it's undecided, but if someone says Linux again, I think I'll scream. Why in the heck would a console need a full blown OS? It doesn't. It'll probally be something really simple that Nintendo makes themselves.
I'm sorta scared of the thought of a OS on a console. Like you said, it's the software that causes the crashes, and I don't want my Dolphin to crash. That's probally the main reason I like consoles better than PC's, ease of use. As for the bookmark problems, either Nintendo has a hard drive (or ZIP drive) type thing added on to the console, or it's like the controller pak (or memory card to you PSXers) where it's just something that's big enough to store something small like that. Actually, I don't even know if it'll have a browser per se, the modem will probally be just for multiplayer gaming. Or another idea is having a DVD that ships with the system where it has the browser and stuff in it. So it loads just like a game, except it isnt' a game. You could check e-mail with that too. (Rereading your post, I relize that you said some of those points I just mentioned, but I'll mention them again anyway : ) ) It'll be a sad day when a 5 year old can't use a console, they will be losing out on a huge audience.
Instead of having a Bushsucks.com site, why isn't there a competitorrules.com site? That would probally be where you would find more intelligent reasons for voting for your favorite canidate. Or maybe not : )
Yes, I guess it does sound like a computer, only better (at least for games). You see, it's a heck of a lot cheaper. You can't buy a $250 computer and play great games with great graphics on it. It's also a heck of a lot easier to use. I'd like to see a 5 year old install a program, and then figure out how to fix it when it crashes. No problems with that on a console. Nintendo's aim isn't the computer market. They don't want you to program or run a server off the Dolphin, but it is just natural progression that some aspects of computers and consoles eventually become integrated together.
Yes, Nintendo will use DVD as a way to get more developers to the system. Many developers cough*square*cough didn't want to develop for the N64 because of the limitations of cartridges. Now they won't have a reason. And as to the post above this, Nintendo still hasn't annonced everything about it, so a hard drive type thing could still be a possibility.
I have no idea what the heck a Dolphin adapter is, but I can tell you, no, it's probally not going to use it. It's just a code name, not anything official. Like Project Reality was to the N64.
Well according to NGO, they have a running Dolphin at E3 behind closed doors. The report didn't say much, but it proves that Nintendo has been working on this thing for quite some time.
Ah, but the SNES CD-ROM was just an add-on. The Dolphin is a whole new system, something completley different. Besides, they've made all the deals, and they've already developed a lot of it, that's why it's scheduled to come out in Fall 2000.
Considering the PSX2 is the very first system to ever have the chance to play old games on a new system, I don't see how Nintendo is hurting themselves. People still bought a N64 even though it doesn't run SNES games. Not to mention it would be practically impossible for Nintendo to allow that.
And in any case, at least those smug techno-eliteist Nintendo users are going to have to wait for their games to load [DVD -- hehe!] like the rest of us Playstation devotees...
Hate to burst your bubble, but Nintendo has said that the Dolphin will have quick access times comparable to a cartridge. I don't know how, that's just what they said.
Next-Generation Online had a great article on the 10 things you must know about the Dolphin. Lots of interesting stuff in there. Also some other Dolphin stuff from IGN64. http://ign64.ign.com/news/8035.html http://www.next-generation.com/jsmid/news/6618.h tml
I posted something similar in the thread under this, but it applies here too. What's with your constant asking if Linux will port to it? You did the same thing with the PSX2 announcement, and now it's the Dolphin annoncement. I find it wierd that Slashdot is the only site I've ever been to that suggested that Linus should be the OS of a gaming console. I doubt the Dolphin will have anything but the simpleist and least complex OS. And even if there is a complex OS, I doubt it'll be Linux, Nintendo will design their own OS. You people really do think of nothing else other than Linux.
I don't know where you get your sources but Linux is not, can not, and will not be ported to the N64. It's not a computer, it's a gaming platform. Computer do not equal gaming console. I doubt this thing even has anything but the simplist OS, not Linux. You guys seem to be hung up about that. Yall are the only ones that I've read in all my gaming sites (if this could be called a gaming site) that even discusses the possibility of Linux on a system. I think you need to stop thinking about OSes.
I'm willing to bet a lot of people who vist Slashdot use Windows. It's the Linux people who post though. I use Windows 98 and I doubt I'll ever try Linux in the near future. I'm just a represenative of the public at large. I think on some FAQ page, Rob was saying that only about 10% of the daily hits on the main site read the threads, and only a smaller percentage of those posted. And the one's who know what they are doing (and hence use Linux) are the ones that post. It's like this forum is it's own little world filled with geeks.
What exactly does Slashdot mean? I have just discovered this site not too long ago and I was just wondering what was meant by that. Any help for a newbie?
You can totally forget about the 64DD in the states. It's not coming out here, only in Japan. And it's not totally set in stone that it will even be released there. And if it is released, it'll only be about $70. I don't expect the DD to sell real well because all the killer ap games coming to it were converted to carts. (ie Zelda). It's vaporware.
Hmm lets see here. Lets say I want to have a good time with 3 of my friends on a Friday night. According to yall, I should go get them to lug their computers over to my house, buy a network card and wires or whatever I need to connect us all, load the software, configure the software and get it to work, and then finally start playing. Or I could stick in a cartridge and plug in 4 controllers. Gee, I wonder which is easier, especially for an 8 year old, or anyone that isn't technoligicly(word?) knowledgeable. Not to mention, what happens if one of my friends doesn't even own a computer, or it's so old it won't hardly run anything? That's why I love console gaming SO much more than PC gaming. And I don't find a screen split 4 ways that small. It still allows enough room to see what you are doing.
what truly GREAT innovations have been made in FPS games since DOOM?
You ever hear of a game called Goldeneye 007 for the N64? That game revolutionized the FPS genre. It's considered by many to bringing back intrest in FPS. It's the only game that I'd ever want to play that's a FPS because I personally don't really like them. But I love Goldeneye.
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Your mistaken. The release date of the N64 in the US was September 29, 1996. The N64 has had a short life, but I don't think they should delay the Dolphin because of it. Part of the reason they didn't do so well was because it came so late after the PSX. They can't afford to be the last one to a new console again.
I find it funny you mention the PSX is for hard core gamers. I find the N64 more to that tune. PSX had great marketing. They made it seem "cool" to have a Playstation. That's why they are ahead. Of course, Nintendo made the mistake of having mostly games that would be called "kiddie" by the average public. This gave them a bad image and made them seem "uncool", another thing in Sony's favor. Real gamers don't care if a game is kiddie or not. They play a game for what it is. And hardcore gamers do not make up the market. They are a very small percentage. That's why Southpark 64 (which I've heard sucks from just about every website) is selling so well, because the general public thinks: Southpark, it must be good. And they think it's good, because it's Southpark and it's cool.
Also interesting to note that you say gamers want a company interested in games. Is Sony a good game maker? No, Nintendo is one of the best game developers there is. Coupled with Rare, I think you get a great system that is for the games. And I'm sorry if you think gamers don't net access or DVD, because I guess you won't be buying a next-generation system. All of them will have those features, they are coming.
Oh, and one final thought. You state the Dolphin had a poor response. I don't know your definition of poor, but I think it's had a great reception. Everyone seems to love this machine. It has everything the PSX2 has, and more.
There's a flaw in that reasoning though. It wouldn't cost $60 bucks a cart. Probally only $30 or so per cart. The reason it's $60 bucks now is for all the packaging, the product advertising, and the fact your only buying one. That's why FFVII doesn't cost $120. It's only $40. A developer can also put in a bunch of space into one cart, the reason the limit at the moment is at 32 Megs is cost. I'm sure there is a limit somewhere, but it wouldn't take 61 cartridges. So I'm guesstimating about 10. Using the above examples, it would bring a total cost to: $300
Sorry, I miss understood you. It really is a subtle difference. In that case, I have no idea.
What do you mean what platform. The topic says it it self. Nintendo?!?! As for the OS, it's undecided, but if someone says Linux again, I think I'll scream. Why in the heck would a console need a full blown OS? It doesn't. It'll probally be something really simple that Nintendo makes themselves.
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I'm sorta scared of the thought of a OS on a console. Like you said, it's the software that causes the crashes, and I don't want my Dolphin to crash. That's probally the main reason I like consoles better than PC's, ease of use. As for the bookmark problems, either Nintendo has a hard drive (or ZIP drive) type thing added on to the console, or it's like the controller pak (or memory card to you PSXers) where it's just something that's big enough to store something small like that. Actually, I don't even know if it'll have a browser per se, the modem will probally be just for multiplayer gaming. Or another idea is having a DVD that ships with the system where it has the browser and stuff in it. So it loads just like a game, except it isnt' a game. You could check e-mail with that too. (Rereading your post, I relize that you said some of those points I just mentioned, but I'll mention them again anyway : ) ) It'll be a sad day when a 5 year old can't use a console, they will be losing out on a huge audience.
Instead of having a Bushsucks.com site, why isn't there a competitorrules.com site? That would probally be where you would find more intelligent reasons for voting for your favorite canidate. Or maybe not : )
Yes, I guess it does sound like a computer, only better (at least for games). You see, it's a heck of a lot cheaper. You can't buy a $250 computer and play great games with great graphics on it. It's also a heck of a lot easier to use. I'd like to see a 5 year old install a program, and then figure out how to fix it when it crashes. No problems with that on a console. Nintendo's aim isn't the computer market. They don't want you to program or run a server off the Dolphin, but it is just natural progression that some aspects of computers and consoles eventually become integrated together.
Yes, Nintendo will use DVD as a way to get more developers to the system. Many developers cough*square*cough didn't want to develop for the N64 because of the limitations of cartridges. Now they won't have a reason. And as to the post above this, Nintendo still hasn't annonced everything about it, so a hard drive type thing could still be a possibility.
I have no idea what the heck a Dolphin adapter is, but I can tell you, no, it's probally not going to use it. It's just a code name, not anything official. Like Project Reality was to the N64.
Well according to NGO, they have a running Dolphin at E3 behind closed doors. The report didn't say much, but it proves that Nintendo has been working on this thing for quite some time.
Ah, but the SNES CD-ROM was just an add-on. The Dolphin is a whole new system, something completley different. Besides, they've made all the deals, and they've already developed a lot of it, that's why it's scheduled to come out in Fall 2000.
Considering the PSX2 is the very first system to ever have the chance to play old games on a new system, I don't see how Nintendo is hurting themselves. People still bought a N64 even though it doesn't run SNES games. Not to mention it would be practically impossible for Nintendo to allow that.
Well, the Dolphin WILL play DVD movies, straight off the bat. So I guess Sony will be in the hot seat now.
And in any case, at least those smug techno-eliteist Nintendo users are going to have to wait for their games to load [DVD -- hehe!] like the rest of us Playstation devotees...
Hate to burst your bubble, but Nintendo has said that the Dolphin will have quick access times comparable to a cartridge. I don't know how, that's just what they said.
Next-Generation Online had a great article on the 10 things you must know about the Dolphin. Lots of interesting stuff in there. Also some other Dolphin stuff from IGN64. http://ign64.ign.com/news/8035.htmlh tml
http://www.next-generation.com/jsmid/news/6618.
I posted something similar in the thread under this, but it applies here too. What's with your constant asking if Linux will port to it? You did the same thing with the PSX2 announcement, and now it's the Dolphin annoncement. I find it wierd that Slashdot is the only site I've ever been to that suggested that Linus should be the OS of a gaming console. I doubt the Dolphin will have anything but the simpleist and least complex OS. And even if there is a complex OS, I doubt it'll be Linux, Nintendo will design their own OS. You people really do think of nothing else other than Linux.
I don't know where you get your sources but Linux is not, can not, and will not be ported to the N64. It's not a computer, it's a gaming platform. Computer do not equal gaming console. I doubt this thing even has anything but the simplist OS, not Linux. You guys seem to be hung up about that. Yall are the only ones that I've read in all my gaming sites (if this could be called a gaming site) that even discusses the possibility of Linux on a system. I think you need to stop thinking about OSes.
So are you implying that Project Dolphin will never come out? I guarentee you it will. Nintendo will not just stop making systems any time soon.
I'm willing to bet a lot of people who vist Slashdot use Windows. It's the Linux people who post though. I use Windows 98 and I doubt I'll ever try Linux in the near future. I'm just a represenative of the public at large. I think on some FAQ page, Rob was saying that only about 10% of the daily hits on the main site read the threads, and only a smaller percentage of those posted. And the one's who know what they are doing (and hence use Linux) are the ones that post. It's like this forum is it's own little world filled with geeks.
What exactly does Slashdot mean? I have just discovered this site not too long ago and I was just wondering what was meant by that. Any help for a newbie?
You can totally forget about the 64DD in the states. It's not coming out here, only in Japan. And it's not totally set in stone that it will even be released there. And if it is released, it'll only be about $70. I don't expect the DD to sell real well because all the killer ap games coming to it were converted to carts. (ie Zelda). It's vaporware.
Hmm lets see here. Lets say I want to have a good time with 3 of my friends on a Friday night. According to yall, I should go get them to lug their computers over to my house, buy a network card and wires or whatever I need to connect us all, load the software, configure the software and get it to work, and then finally start playing. Or I could stick in a cartridge and plug in 4 controllers. Gee, I wonder which is easier, especially for an 8 year old, or anyone that isn't technoligicly(word?) knowledgeable. Not to mention, what happens if one of my friends doesn't even own a computer, or it's so old it won't hardly run anything? That's why I love console gaming SO much more than PC gaming. And I don't find a screen split 4 ways that small. It still allows enough room to see what you are doing.
what truly GREAT innovations have been made in FPS games since DOOM?
You ever hear of a game called Goldeneye 007 for the N64? That game revolutionized the FPS genre. It's considered by many to bringing back intrest in FPS. It's the only game that I'd ever want to play that's a FPS because I personally don't really like them. But I love Goldeneye.