Funny. A belt is child abuse these days. In my day, that was considered 'punishment' for fucking up.
Should someone take to you with a belt for swearing then?
Child abuse was once commonly accept. So was the ownership of slaves, and the ownership of women by their fathers and husbands. These things were all and still are all wrong.
The basic languages that new people work most with will be the ones that are posted most questions for. Not many people begin their programming experience in C nowadays, so people learning C will have some experience in general behind them. Also my totally blind guess is that C experts don't frequent stackoverflow as much. That leads to the interesting question of "where do C and other programmers go to get their answers if not to stackoverflow?".
Being an older language, C standard libraries and Unix libraries tend to be very well documented in a few places. Lots of good older text books and reference manuals and online tutorials abound. stackoverflow tends to most be popular with web and enterprise programmers building business apps - C doesn't get used on new business apps anymore and hasn't been in some time.
The more memory in use, the more energy Mobile devices burn. Mozilla's Firefox is a huge memory hog on personal computers. If they want a shot on the mobile market, they'll need to keep the memory footprint to a minimum.
This is true, despite what the naysayers try to argue, and truer still if you use addons BUT that isn't why I don't care about Mozilla Firefox on mobile. The real reason is that after all the changes forced on to me on the PC, the recent version and update extension hell, and the arrogance displayed by the developers I would rather poke my eye out than rely on another piece of gear from Mozilla. There is no hope memory leaks and the like will be fixed when the attitude is to deny and force "improvements" on the user. I use to be a fan but now I only begrudgingly use Firefox for the extensions....and I hope something better comes along soon.
I meant to say self or others. If a child is posing a danger to him/her self (eg trying to play with a power socket) I will consider a light tap on the hand. I can count the number of times I've felt that I needed to do this on one hand. Once a child can hold a conversation and understands the concepts of danger and having things taken away, there are other ways.
Larry Ellison? Sure he can pay for hookers and fast cars. But so what. You consider that man a scientist or engineer??? I suppose you thought Steve Jobs was too.
Tony Stark is a fictional character. There are a few cool scientific types in fiction, and yes he's one. But note that his playboy persona is somewhat separate.
May I ask the following question? If it is okay in your mind for a parent to beat his or her children to make sure they do not behave antisocially, why not a boss beating his or her workers, or a teacher, provided that they mean well? What exactly makes it okay to discipline a child one way but not an adult? Surely you don't think they are lesser creatures? So what possible sane argument can you make here? I'm curious.
My children are 1 and 3. They do not get beaten and we find plenty of much more effective punishment that they do understand when they behave anti-socially. Usually taking away a toy or privellege makes them fall into line. It's simpler and while they may get upset at no time do they feel fear - they always feel safe in our home even when being punished.
Negative reinforcement sometimes works and may even be necessary sometimes but it is not as powerful as positive reinforcement. I've owned dogs most of my life and giving treats when they do the right thing is usually all the power you need, and a water spray bottle is all the negative reinforcement I use. Hitting a dog is much more likely to make it aggressive towards you and others. You are teaching it that doing so is acceptable to maintain pack order.
My rule is simple. If a child or animal is misbehaving but not posing a danger to others, there is no way I should consider corporal punishment.
Keep advocating discipline reform... and keep wondering why our kids can't learn shit in school.
I certainly don't need to beat my children to discipline them, or have them learn at school. I think in most cases it can be avoided.
In any case have you watched the video? This wasn't discipline, it was a savage uncontrolled beating by 2 parents of their child. It is unbelievable that anyone would condone such barbaric behaviour.
The reason children can't learn in school is that no one is allowed to fail a class any more, teachers are underpaid and have classes that are too full, and teachers aren't permitted to use their judgement about what their students need to learn. It has nothing to do with not being permitted to beat the crap out of the kids.
When you look at TV, you also see that most programs glamorise lawyers, cops, doctors and sports stars. When was the last TV show that starred an engineer and made it look like a great thing to do? Even in Star Trek, Scotty was a secondary character.
The only counter example I can think of is MacGyver, which I still enjoy occasionally despite the extra helping of cheese.
No matter though. Engineering isn't glamorous. When's the last time you saw an Engineer invited to a gala or celebrity party? We don't need to take the realism away.
I don't think there should be a statute of limitation on this kind of beating of children, and I don't think he should be allowed to get away with repeated beatings of his child. Also the mother was complicit - while she did try to moderate the beating, she also participated. She should also be held accountable.
But I wonder if that tape, taken without his knowledge, could even be admitted as evidence. Could the daughter be charged under wire taping law? No one else seems to have considered this. I think it's a legal mess. But letting him - a family court judge - get away with this is sending the wrong message. Watching the video should sicken and outrage anyone with a modicum of decency. I wonder if the daughter has had any counselling - it's not the sort of abuse that would leave someone unscathed.
My parents would beat the shit out of me if I ever stepped out of line and I still didn't turn into a sociopath. There are probably some emotional scars there but I managed to move past all that. I actually have a very good relationship with both of my parents now.
You admit your parents abused you and not only do you condone it, you seem to idolise them. I feel sorry for your kids.
Not everyone's going to handle that kind of abuse the same way. Some will turn into sociopaths, some will commit suicide.
My older sister, on the other hand, came to school with some marks on her body and Social Services came to the house and she didn't live with us anymore after that. The father sounds like an asshole but it isn't child abuse unless it leaves a mark.
Sounds like your sister got the protection and you got screwed. You shouldn't grow up thinking that's normal.
Everyone needs to stop pushing their values on other people and telling them how to raise their kids.
No. You live as part of a society and what you do affects others. You need to stop insisting that anti-social child-raring that raises monsters is okay because some people don't end up monsters. Should I be permitted to raise my child to beat, murder and rob people if that is my belief? No. Your position is untenable.
DVDs, Blu-ray, cable tv, Xbox, PS3, Wii, iOS, Android... These all contain and extensively use DRM, and most people don't even know it's there, because it works so well.
What IN THE FUCK are you smoking? Most people don't know it's there because it's ineffective and there is a workaround. People who care have ways of copying DVD, stealing cable, pirating console games, and rooting their iPhones and Androids. People who don't care don't bother. Plenty notice who don't care enough to work around it. I can't count the number of colleagues who bitch about scratched disks or iTunes downloads they have lost.
You could have carried on watching your VHS. It's my understanding that format switching in the USA hasn't been subject to the same legal grey status as it has in the UK, so you could have digitised your videos perfectly happily
I hearby award you the disingenuous idiot of the year award. Do you know how fucking hard and time consuming it is to digitize a library. Unless your time is worth nothing, it would be much MUCH cheaper to go out and re-buy.
The story is unchanged, but the quality discs have all sorts of features, like they did with DVDs, but more extensive. The Princess Bride, for instance, had not just a remastered film, but a game and several rather long featurettes about how the film came to be.
Dude I barely have time to watch the show. I don't need 60 bullshit interviews with actors, the director, the director's ex-girlfriend, the director's ex-roommate, the grip, the music director, dolly, and one of the actor's pet dogs. It's not value added. It's shit. Out-takes can be funny but they're worthless.Trailers, don't make me fucking laugh - that's the marketing bullshit. Occassionally extended editions are relevant, but more often than not revisionist crap. Keep the fucking extras you dim-witted slack-jawed greedy fuckers.,
If you have a smartphone it runs Linux. If you use a browser then you've been served up pages from a Linux server.
But yeah, if you work for some shitty company or other you might have to use a Windows pc at some point, and if you're like a user or something then you might have a Windows pc at home on some shitty laptop which keeps overheating and is no use for games.
I say this as someone who's run Linux VMs, and currently runs an Android phone. Grow the fuck up.
By the way I have just upgraded from a Nokia which had a browser, apps etc. and was considered a smart phone. Symbian's not Linux based. Nor are Windows 7 phones Linux based for that matter. You're just talking smack.
I was spanked with a razor belt more times than I care to count when I was growing up...
You are a clear example of why this form of discipline should not be used. You're incapable of thinking for yourself, as evidenced by the logical fallacy you opened with. Or rather fallacies.
1. Let's start with the fact that you don't agree that you were harmed does not mean you were not indeed harmed - you clearly have no sympathy/empathy for others who are similarly abused. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychologist's_fallacy
2. If I were to accept that you were not harmed, why would I accept that others with different motivations, beliefs, personalities would not be harmed? A sample size of one is not sufficient. Perhaps you turned out fine but your neighbour would become a serial killer or a broken wreck of a person given this form of discpiline. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasty_generalization
I don't doubt others apply and that is just your opening sentence. I don't have time or inclination to pick apart more. See the complete list here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies
May I ask the following question? If it is okay in your mind for a parent to beat his or her children to make sure they do not behave antisocially, why not a boss beating his or her workers, or a teacher, provided that they mean well? What exactly makes it okay to discipline a child one way but not an adult? Surely you don't think they are lesser creatures? So what possible sane argument can you make here? I'm curious.
If you think it's okay for you or others to beat people to get them "in line" with your way of thinking, you have in fact been harmed by your upbringing. Violence often escalates. Children learn by example. Get help - certainly before having children and infecting the next generation. You are using your abuse to justify more abuse.
That's less succinct than "Fuck you, asshole" the other poster presented, but much more thorough. Consider that I'm not being abusive and actually think about what I am saying.
Now you're running an app store? For frack sake people, you've had apps available for download for a long time. Have you got money in the budget for this idiocy? Which mission did you cut to get the funds for this comedy routine?
Where you should direct your ire, is at large gov entities: Freddie/Fannie, Fed Res, IRS, DHS, DOD, etc. Those are the leeches destroying our economy.
Not CEOs.
Ha hahaha HAHAHAHA
I haven't laughed so hard in an age. Greedy CEOs who literally make millions in salary increases and bonus the same day they shaft their workforce aren't the problem. It is those meddling government men......and pigs fly QANTAS. Or rather run the damn airline.
Too often the interviewer's questions are loaded in two different ways - there is no one right answer and not understanding this or dismissing anything outside the narrow set of answers he/she is looking for shows a lack of maturity on the interviewers side of the table.
Agreed. The interview is often a very good indicator of what the job is like. It's just as much of a way for the interviewee to evaluate their prospective employer as it is for the employer evaluating the employee. Even if HR is administering the test or it has been outsourced, that tells you something about how you'll be treated. I remember being rejected based on one of these idiotic interviews for one particular job. It was crushing at the time but in hindsight boy am I glad I didn't get that job! It certainly didn't hurt my career in the long run.
Which is exactly my point. Dvorak is faster. But I don't switch because it's worse but because I don't want to learn a new thing. Which is *exactly* what Shuttleworth was saying
If I learn Dvorak it makes life more complicated. I will almost certainly get worse at Qwerty and look like an idiot any time someone asks me to do something on their machine. And no people won't put up with you changing their machine to Dvorak layout. Make it standard, or else no thanks.
Most people only believe because they are told the same things over and over again from childhood and free thought is discouraged.
Oh how I wish that were true. I knew a guy once who completed an engineering degree. He had a decent education. He was exposed to science. He once took on painting my first car as an odd job. Seemed like a standup and capable bloke. Years later he became a priest and was literally knocking on my door trying to bible bash me and convince me that evolution was nonsense when it was clear he hadn't taken the time to understand it. I don't know if he was relying on me to be ignorant or he was dellusional or what was going on. But the truth is some religious people have had a break with reality and are just bat shit insane, and not all of them started off that way.
Yes and an English version is planned. I only watched the English Starblazers as a kid and went back to watch it 20 years later as an adult. As I said in my earlier post, big big mistake. Childhood memories ruined.
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Funny. A belt is child abuse these days. In my day, that was considered 'punishment' for fucking up.
Should someone take to you with a belt for swearing then?
Child abuse was once commonly accept. So was the ownership of slaves, and the ownership of women by their fathers and husbands. These things were all and still are all wrong.
The basic languages that new people work most with will be the ones that are posted most questions for.
Not many people begin their programming experience in C nowadays, so people learning C will have some experience in general behind them.
Also my totally blind guess is that C experts don't frequent stackoverflow as much. That leads to the interesting question of "where do C and other programmers go to get their answers if not to stackoverflow?".
Being an older language, C standard libraries and Unix libraries tend to be very well documented in a few places. Lots of good older text books and reference manuals and online tutorials abound. stackoverflow tends to most be popular with web and enterprise programmers building business apps - C doesn't get used on new business apps anymore and hasn't been in some time.
All the C programmers are busy over at bufferoverflow.com
More like coredump.com. Back in the day my uni friends and I use to describe going to the toilet as dumping core.
The more memory in use, the more energy Mobile devices burn. Mozilla's Firefox is a huge memory hog on personal computers. If they want a shot on the mobile market, they'll need to keep the memory footprint to a minimum.
This is true, despite what the naysayers try to argue, and truer still if you use addons BUT that isn't why I don't care about Mozilla Firefox on mobile. The real reason is that after all the changes forced on to me on the PC, the recent version and update extension hell, and the arrogance displayed by the developers I would rather poke my eye out than rely on another piece of gear from Mozilla. There is no hope memory leaks and the like will be fixed when the attitude is to deny and force "improvements" on the user. I use to be a fan but now I only begrudgingly use Firefox for the extensions....and I hope something better comes along soon.
I meant to say self or others. If a child is posing a danger to him/her self (eg trying to play with a power socket) I will consider a light tap on the hand. I can count the number of times I've felt that I needed to do this on one hand. Once a child can hold a conversation and understands the concepts of danger and having things taken away, there are other ways.
I didn't know Google Lawyers were fans of the Bard
You mean like a Tony Stark or Larry Ellison?
Larry Ellison? Sure he can pay for hookers and fast cars. But so what. You consider that man a scientist or engineer??? I suppose you thought Steve Jobs was too.
Tony Stark is a fictional character. There are a few cool scientific types in fiction, and yes he's one. But note that his playboy persona is somewhat separate.
May I ask the following question? If it is okay in your mind for a parent to beat his or her children to make sure they do not behave antisocially, why not a boss beating his or her workers, or a teacher, provided that they mean well? What exactly makes it okay to discipline a child one way but not an adult? Surely you don't think they are lesser creatures? So what possible sane argument can you make here? I'm curious.
My children are 1 and 3. They do not get beaten and we find plenty of much more effective punishment that they do understand when they behave anti-socially. Usually taking away a toy or privellege makes them fall into line. It's simpler and while they may get upset at no time do they feel fear - they always feel safe in our home even when being punished.
Negative reinforcement sometimes works and may even be necessary sometimes but it is not as powerful as positive reinforcement. I've owned dogs most of my life and giving treats when they do the right thing is usually all the power you need, and a water spray bottle is all the negative reinforcement I use. Hitting a dog is much more likely to make it aggressive towards you and others. You are teaching it that doing so is acceptable to maintain pack order.
My rule is simple. If a child or animal is misbehaving but not posing a danger to others, there is no way I should consider corporal punishment.
Keep advocating discipline reform... and keep wondering why our kids can't learn shit in school.
I certainly don't need to beat my children to discipline them, or have them learn at school. I think in most cases it can be avoided.
In any case have you watched the video? This wasn't discipline, it was a savage uncontrolled beating by 2 parents of their child. It is unbelievable that anyone would condone such barbaric behaviour.
The reason children can't learn in school is that no one is allowed to fail a class any more, teachers are underpaid and have classes that are too full, and teachers aren't permitted to use their judgement about what their students need to learn. It has nothing to do with not being permitted to beat the crap out of the kids.
When you look at TV, you also see that most programs glamorise lawyers, cops, doctors and sports stars. When was the last TV show that starred an engineer and made it look like a great thing to do? Even in Star Trek, Scotty was a secondary character.
The only counter example I can think of is MacGyver, which I still enjoy occasionally despite the extra helping of cheese.
No matter though. Engineering isn't glamorous. When's the last time you saw an Engineer invited to a gala or celebrity party? We don't need to take the realism away.
I don't think there should be a statute of limitation on this kind of beating of children, and I don't think he should be allowed to get away with repeated beatings of his child. Also the mother was complicit - while she did try to moderate the beating, she also participated. She should also be held accountable.
But I wonder if that tape, taken without his knowledge, could even be admitted as evidence. Could the daughter be charged under wire taping law? No one else seems to have considered this. I think it's a legal mess. But letting him - a family court judge - get away with this is sending the wrong message. Watching the video should sicken and outrage anyone with a modicum of decency. I wonder if the daughter has had any counselling - it's not the sort of abuse that would leave someone unscathed.
My parents would beat the shit out of me if I ever stepped out of line and I still didn't turn into a sociopath. There are probably some emotional scars there but I managed to move past all that. I actually have a very good relationship with both of my parents now.
You admit your parents abused you and not only do you condone it, you seem to idolise them. I feel sorry for your kids.
Not everyone's going to handle that kind of abuse the same way. Some will turn into sociopaths, some will commit suicide.
My older sister, on the other hand, came to school with some marks on her body and Social Services came to the house and she didn't live with us anymore after that. The father sounds like an asshole but it isn't child abuse unless it leaves a mark.
Sounds like your sister got the protection and you got screwed. You shouldn't grow up thinking that's normal.
Everyone needs to stop pushing their values on other people and telling them how to raise their kids.
No. You live as part of a society and what you do affects others. You need to stop insisting that anti-social child-raring that raises monsters is okay because some people don't end up monsters. Should I be permitted to raise my child to beat, murder and rob people if that is my belief? No. Your position is untenable.
DVDs, Blu-ray, cable tv, Xbox, PS3, Wii, iOS, Android... These all contain and extensively use DRM, and most people don't even know it's there, because it works so well.
What IN THE FUCK are you smoking? Most people don't know it's there because it's ineffective and there is a workaround. People who care have ways of copying DVD, stealing cable, pirating console games, and rooting their iPhones and Androids. People who don't care don't bother. Plenty notice who don't care enough to work around it. I can't count the number of colleagues who bitch about scratched disks or iTunes downloads they have lost.
You could have carried on watching your VHS. It's my understanding that format switching in the USA hasn't been subject to the same legal grey status as it has in the UK, so you could have digitised your videos perfectly happily
I hearby award you the disingenuous idiot of the year award. Do you know how fucking hard and time consuming it is to digitize a library. Unless your time is worth nothing, it would be much MUCH cheaper to go out and re-buy.
The story is unchanged, but the quality discs have all sorts of features, like they did with DVDs, but more extensive. The Princess Bride, for instance, had not just a remastered film, but a game and several rather long featurettes about how the film came to be.
Dude I barely have time to watch the show. I don't need 60 bullshit interviews with actors, the director, the director's ex-girlfriend, the director's ex-roommate, the grip, the music director, dolly, and one of the actor's pet dogs. It's not value added. It's shit. Out-takes can be funny but they're worthless.Trailers, don't make me fucking laugh - that's the marketing bullshit. Occassionally extended editions are relevant, but more often than not revisionist crap. Keep the fucking extras you dim-witted slack-jawed greedy fuckers.,
If you have a smartphone it runs Linux. If you use a browser then you've been served up pages from a Linux server.
But yeah, if you work for some shitty company or other you might have to use a Windows pc at some point, and if you're like a user or something then you might have a Windows pc at home on some shitty laptop which keeps overheating and is no use for games.
I say this as someone who's run Linux VMs, and currently runs an Android phone. Grow the fuck up.
By the way I have just upgraded from a Nokia which had a browser, apps etc. and was considered a smart phone. Symbian's not Linux based. Nor are Windows 7 phones Linux based for that matter. You're just talking smack.
I was spanked with a razor belt more times than I care to count when I was growing up...
You are a clear example of why this form of discipline should not be used. You're incapable of thinking for yourself, as evidenced by the logical fallacy you opened with. Or rather fallacies.
1. Let's start with the fact that you don't agree that you were harmed does not mean you were not indeed harmed - you clearly have no sympathy/empathy for others who are similarly abused. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychologist's_fallacy
2. If I were to accept that you were not harmed, why would I accept that others with different motivations, beliefs, personalities would not be harmed? A sample size of one is not sufficient. Perhaps you turned out fine but your neighbour would become a serial killer or a broken wreck of a person given this form of discpiline. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasty_generalization
I don't doubt others apply and that is just your opening sentence. I don't have time or inclination to pick apart more. See the complete list here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies
May I ask the following question? If it is okay in your mind for a parent to beat his or her children to make sure they do not behave antisocially, why not a boss beating his or her workers, or a teacher, provided that they mean well? What exactly makes it okay to discipline a child one way but not an adult? Surely you don't think they are lesser creatures? So what possible sane argument can you make here? I'm curious.
If you think it's okay for you or others to beat people to get them "in line" with your way of thinking, you have in fact been harmed by your upbringing. Violence often escalates. Children learn by example. Get help - certainly before having children and infecting the next generation. You are using your abuse to justify more abuse.
That's less succinct than "Fuck you, asshole" the other poster presented, but much more thorough. Consider that I'm not being abusive and actually think about what I am saying.
This is a video poking fun at VMware, thought I'd share.
The punch line comes right at the end. I won't post a spoiler, but the company that's poking the fun is more stuck in the past than anyone!
Now you're running an app store? For frack sake people, you've had apps available for download for a long time. Have you got money in the budget for this idiocy? Which mission did you cut to get the funds for this comedy routine?
Where you should direct your ire, is at large gov entities: Freddie/Fannie, Fed Res, IRS, DHS, DOD, etc. Those are the leeches destroying our economy.
Not CEOs.
Ha hahaha HAHAHAHA
I haven't laughed so hard in an age. Greedy CEOs who literally make millions in salary increases and bonus the same day they shaft their workforce aren't the problem. It is those meddling government men......and pigs fly QANTAS. Or rather run the damn airline.
Anybody caught making a Frickin' Sharks joke will be permanently labeled a virgin.
Too late. Take a look at your url bar. This is slashdot.
Too often the interviewer's questions are loaded in two different ways - there is no one right answer and not understanding this or dismissing anything outside the narrow set of answers he/she is looking for shows a lack of maturity on the interviewers side of the table.
Agreed. The interview is often a very good indicator of what the job is like. It's just as much of a way for the interviewee to evaluate their prospective employer as it is for the employer evaluating the employee. Even if HR is administering the test or it has been outsourced, that tells you something about how you'll be treated. I remember being rejected based on one of these idiotic interviews for one particular job. It was crushing at the time but in hindsight boy am I glad I didn't get that job! It certainly didn't hurt my career in the long run.
Which is exactly my point. Dvorak is faster. But I don't switch because it's worse but because I don't want to learn a new thing. Which is *exactly* what Shuttleworth was saying
If I learn Dvorak it makes life more complicated. I will almost certainly get worse at Qwerty and look like an idiot any time someone asks me to do something on their machine. And no people won't put up with you changing their machine to Dvorak layout. Make it standard, or else no thanks.
Most people only believe because they are told the same things over and over again from childhood and free thought is discouraged.
Oh how I wish that were true. I knew a guy once who completed an engineering degree. He had a decent education. He was exposed to science. He once took on painting my first car as an odd job. Seemed like a standup and capable bloke. Years later he became a priest and was literally knocking on my door trying to bible bash me and convince me that evolution was nonsense when it was clear he hadn't taken the time to understand it. I don't know if he was relying on me to be ignorant or he was dellusional or what was going on. But the truth is some religious people have had a break with reality and are just bat shit insane, and not all of them started off that way.
Yes and an English version is planned. I only watched the English Starblazers as a kid and went back to watch it 20 years later as an adult. As I said in my earlier post, big big mistake. Childhood memories ruined.